August 27, 2016

These 3 progressive policies keep poor trapped in poverty

Holly NicholasRebel Commentator
 

Progressives preach about helping the needy which allows them to capture their votes but the preachiest are often the richest champagne socialists whose ideas do nothing to help the poor and instead keep them trapped in the poverty cycle. 

Sadly, the progressives want to keep it that way because they depend on the votes of the less fortunate.

Watch as I demonstrate how the poverty cycle works using examples of environmental policy, taxation policy and minimum wage policies.

The poor depend on progressives to keep them afloat and progressives depend on the poor for their own gain and to keep their political parties alive.

All in all, it’s a vicious cycle that needs to be broken.

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commented 2016-08-28 15:19:53 -0400
The left fielder for the visiting Alberta destroying angels club was John siciliano filling in for rob lyelowa, as he had a bad case of chevezits

The REBELS won !!!
commented 2016-08-28 15:01:33 -0400
HOLLY , you touched all the bases , you turned a fly ball to left field into a home run!!!
commented 2016-08-28 13:22:29 -0400
Champagne socialists? Not Trudope! Champagne Communist Dictator would be a more apt description!
commented 2016-08-28 11:18:54 -0400
Another lieberal “social justice” policy that hurts the poor and keeps them down is landlord-centred rental housing laws. Most renters are low income. Katie Whynnebag’s Ontariowe is the worst offender. This self-styled “social justice premier” has done more damage to tenants than Mike Harris. Ironically she promised to repeal the worst of Harris’ landlord handouts. Instead she has not only failed to revamp the Residential Tenancies Act to make it more fair, she’s made it worse, and has plans to cause even more hardship to tenants. She has also done nothing to address the lack of affordable housing, and public housing wait lists have skyrocketed under her watch.

From outrageous illegal air conditioner fees (which the govt turns a blind eye to) and allowing landlords to charge whatever rent they want to new tenants (rewarding landlords for evicting existing tenants), to easy quickie evictions, to new “proposed” changes which would allow landlords to discriminate against pet owning tenants, Whynnebag’s government has done incredible harm to low income renters.

And to add insult to injury, Moslems are getting special treatment from this government yet again, on the backs of tenants. Right now the “for rent” ads on Kijiji and Craigslist are full of Moslem landlords openly discriminating against non-Moslem tenants, refusing to rent to them. This is illegal of course. Take a wild guess what would happen if a white landlord posted a public ad asking for “white only” tenants! The new pet rules will cater to Moslem landlords AND tenants, who either don’t want to rent to a pet owner, or don’t want to live in the same building as pet owners. There are other proposals that will give more landlords lucrative handouts while grinding tenants into the ground. Social justice my ass.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/rental-changes-1.3546107
commented 2016-08-28 11:15:08 -0400
The progressives still rabidly embrace the major systemic causes of poverty – tax-related inflation of basic living, damaging regulating and taxing that send jobs off shore, lowering of labor wage structures with destructive 3rd world over-immigration.
commented 2016-08-28 04:12:08 -0400
The really best example of this vicious dynamic at work is obviously among the Blacks in the United States… The most critical component missing in this “community of dependance” are community leaders willing to speak out and break this cycle… For too many of them their “leadership” role depends on maintaining the status quo while bitching about “the man”… The most graphic example in recent history of such a cycle being broken was in Europe after WW1 when with the collapse of the prevailing empires, the serfs by the millions took ownership of their own lands and got educated and prospered… Key to that happening were ethnic leaders from Finland to Croatia with a moral view and pride in their ancient cultures and traditions which had been preserved “underground” for centuries… That kind of leadership is evidently missing in too many US Black communities and right here at home ond almost all First Nation reserves across Canada…
commented 2016-08-28 03:57:23 -0400
Thanks John Siciliano:- Quote:- “And having an active federal government only means spending in one area and trying to save in others. It does not necessarily mean more spending. This tax and spend lie has been perpetrated by right wingers that like to make everything into a political football, which I do not agree with. Government has to spend regardless. Otherwise, there will be structural deficits. Certain areas are always in need of spending. That is why there is such thing as ongoing budgets.”…. Your cheque is in the mail, Yours Truly, Justin “Sunny Ways” Trudeau…
commented 2016-08-28 02:50:49 -0400
You think that any new spending means new taxes, but the fact is diverted money from other areas can be used to pay for social housing or certain programs. That is the part that most conservatives fail to see, and I used conservatives because progressive conservatives which I happened to run in 2011 agree with my position because they want fiscal responsibility and social progress much like the Liberal party. I do not view property taxes like libertarian conservatives or libertarians because that in essence means you worship the property and deem it like in the United States, when property is just owned by banks in the end. I do agree that taxes are too high but I am a protectionist centrist much like David Orchard. He wanted what I want and he ran for the Progressive Conservative party of Canada in 1997-98. And having an active federal government only means spending in one area and trying to save in others. It does not necessarily mean more spending. This tax and spend lie has been perpetrated by right wingers that like to make everything into a political football, which I do not agree with. Government has to spend regardless. Otherwise, there will be structural deficits. Certain areas are always in need of spending. That is why there is such thing as ongoing budgets.
commented 2016-08-28 01:56:53 -0400
John S with the NDP and their anti pipeline crap i make less now. That is reality.
commented 2016-08-28 01:56:10 -0400
John S wages have went up , taxes are what is out of control, and we pay more than enough for social programs , they get more bloated and useless. And i made more when i had more experience, pretty simple , or learn a trade. And if you want more then go build some , no one is stopping you from giving your own time and money. The more government is in your life the more it controls your life. Legitimate need is fine , but we pay enough for that already. My property taxes go up all the time and services get cut and suffer. People only have so much to give.
commented 2016-08-28 01:07:50 -0400
That is what you are suggesting Drew. I want more social housing and affordable housing for the poor. Government has to provide necessities and why I think that it is the best way to bring down home prices.

After all, if people have to raise wages and incomes, there have to be mechanisms put in to allow wages to rise.
commented 2016-08-28 00:59:43 -0400
Taxpayer bailouts are corporatism because society is too big to fail. That means the losses are socialist and the system is privatized which means we feel the impact of capitalism because there are no protections. In capitalism, the system is supposed to have protections and regulations and punishment for wrongdoing. Liberals are not communists or socialists. They are for the most part centre to centre-left which means a social liberal party and for moderate social programs and they support TPP and the free trade agreements.

That means they are largely for the same policies as the old Conservative party. They support slightly more regulations than the Conservatives. The NDP supports a few more social programs. That does not mean they are socialist.

Socialism means the workers owning the means of production. What kind of moron are you Drew that you do not even know basic political terms before you spout them out!!

And in the 1970’s the Liberals then were liberal and capitalist at that time. They were never socialist. You could implement as many social programs as possible, but if the system has private property and workers not owning the means of production it is still capitalist. Capitalism means markets, the law of value and the profit motive.

Where the hell, Drew, did you go to school? You obviously know nothing about economics or how that fits in with systems!
commented 2016-08-28 00:55:25 -0400
In fact, people may not know this but the system hasn’t worked well since the 70’s and wages have not kept up with inflation or with growth or productivity.

In fact since 1980 wages have remained stagnant and people have not received a pay increase on average.

That does not make people lazy but it is because of the system itself.

Capitalism is not working as it should because wages are at the top, and it is a result of decades of corporate tax cuts and choices.

This does not make a person a communist or socialist. Those terms are just used by people that have no arguments and are just fools that cannot think!
commented 2016-08-28 00:53:36 -0400
No the current system is doing a good job spreading the poverty to the Millenials and the poor because compared to previous generations of the last 70 years Millenials have the lowest amount of income and their personal wealth is massive low compared to those generations. So, I blame the structure of corporate capitalism itself and it has to change or the system has to be made to be better for younger generations. It is already stated that this is a failed generation for people 18 to 32.

These are statistics which Liberal and Conservative governments have ignored from 1993 to now.
commented 2016-08-28 00:51:09 -0400
https://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwigxtOZpuPOAhWCuRoKHe5NB68QFggoMAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fbooks%2F2014%2Faug%2F29%2Fsocialism-for-the-rich&usg=AFQjCNEX1c8sOq45jUQrWtTq5_H5zAeyyA

This article shows that for basically 7 to 8 years we have been in an era of stagnation and it is capitalism for the rest of us and socialism for the rich.

Socialism for the rich means corporatism which Mussolini defined as fascism at its highest part and the other name he gave was corporatism which means too big to fail.

You cannot change names because you feel that. It is either corporatism at this state or it is not.

The other name for this term is cronyism and no Western society is immune. Once free trade came to Western societies, the corporations and banks received the highest importance and this is how the society remained. Yes, bailouts do occur every 7 to 8 years in all Western nations in one form or another.
commented 2016-08-27 20:50:46 -0400
Always get a laugh from people who talk as if poverty is a good thing if it spread on everyone.
commented 2016-08-27 20:47:38 -0400
John S i will not be your slave, nor is capitalism a failure. And it is not greed because you say so. People only risk when there is chance of reward, If the people do not want rich corporations then they can quit buying stuff, no one is forcing them to buy iphones and big screen televisions or 6 dollar coffees or video games or pay 40 bucks for a movie and snacks. And quit talking for the people , you only speak for yourself.
commented 2016-08-27 20:44:02 -0400
John S you mean the government ordering banks to hand out idiotic mortgages? Where do you think the trouble started moron. Banks are not charities. And taxpayer bailouts are socialism. Canada did not bail out any banks by the way. And sorry SNN did not call for the recession idiot. And sorry but capitalism rarely needs to be bailed out while socialism is constantly being bailed out.
commented 2016-08-27 19:40:39 -0400
Capitalism without democracy is fascism and capitalism fails every 7 to 8 years based on recessions and they require taxpayer bailouts, and you notice Drew that there are always bubbles and people that take advantage of the crises. I guess greed and wanting to get or obtain as much wealth is what the greedy want but not the average people.

Why were no people who caused the financial crisis arrested yet?! Answer me that one.

You know the people that the former SNN employees now working at Rebel defended and want this version of capitalism to continue.

Cats got your tongue?!
commented 2016-08-27 19:27:50 -0400
Capitalism does not need socialism , but socialism sure as hell needs capitalism. Of course fools cannot see this.
commented 2016-08-27 19:26:29 -0400
John S i actually just spent time in the hospital , i had to get emergency surgery. I have had 3 other surgeries all non urgent and they were done in less than 3 months form the time i saw my doctor back when the Conservatives were in power and supporting capitalism. Now that we have wonderful socialists blowing 10 billion a year, i waited 4 months for a surgical consultation and put on the fast list of the overwhelmed surgeon at 3 months. I faced a life threatening complication due to the wait and the hospital had to fit me in. So please tell me how this is better for the people you halfwit. Stick your commie garbage , socialists and communists are the champion mass murderers of history John.
commented 2016-08-27 19:21:18 -0400
John S sorry but socialism is broken. Capitalism is fine, the wrecks in our society are due to socialists and sorry but some idiots writing on wikipedia does not change this.
commented 2016-08-27 16:58:05 -0400
And why do you use progressives when there are progressives in all parties and they have ideas to fix Canada that are different.

Obviously the Canadian Action party which is nationalist and progressive and social liberal does not want to follow neoliberalism.

It does not want the trade agreements as is.

It does not believe in unfettered capitalism where the market dictates everything.

It does not agree with corporate bonuses, massive tax cuts and bailouts beyond capacity.

It wants a fairer system and full employment.

Capitalism without democracy is fascism. The Canadian Action party agrees and so do I that our system is for the bankers and the well-connected and it is a system where debt always increases.

It agrees very much that capitalism is broken and the only way to fix it is with the Bank of Canada going back to its original mandate.

The party agrees that all leaders nowadays are puppets for the rich and corporations.

What don’t you agree with regarding that PT Phillips and Egil Lomeland? It is pretty self-explanatory and even you can understand what civic nationalism is? It means leaving the IMF, NATO and having a true nationalist state without war and where the people are taken care of.
commented 2016-08-27 16:37:48 -0400
What made Canada great after world war 2 was the ability of the Bank of Canada to have projects.

I want what MacKenzie King created and that was ending usury and having products created by the Bank of Canada. Even James Sears if you will do research on him like the old Social Credit party wanted the Bank of Canada to provide interest free loans for infrastructure, poverty reduction and other necessary programs to upkeep manufacturing.

Watch John Turmel about value based currencies and shift A inflation versus shift B inflation.

Watch how special interests exist in all mainstream parties especially for shipbuilding and how full employment cannot exist in modern-day capitalism.

Watch Mel Hurtig on what the National Party of Canada was going to do to combat free trade and globalization.

The fact is all parties want a hold on power to cater to different groups but with civic nationalism special interests do not have to exist as unity can bring everyone together.

Individualism means destroying society and ensuring that people do not fight back against the market forces and nationalists even agree with this on the left and centre.

Infrastructure projects existed even for the Conservative party. They did not abandon the funding ability for the government. You do not know what you are talking about among other things.

There are plenty of economic books which state the best way to provide full employment is with state capitalism where the government can provide near-zero interest loans, designation of what government allows industry to create and this is within the confines of capitalism of what we had in Canada in the 1970’s.

Canada made clothing, textiles, cars, trucks and all kinds of goods and services. Letting the developing world do it means selling out our capacity to other nations and it means giving into the lies of the service economy. Canadians were richer back then and had very good mortgages because of the Bank of Canada.

Those homes could be paid off in just a few years.

Canada must be there to help and Canada was never about libertarianism and globalization but about nationalism and civic nationalism and being a partner and an assistant in necessary areas.
commented 2016-08-27 16:29:41 -0400
Sorry John Siciliano, but Holly pretty well destroyed most of your theories. If progressives would simply cooperate for the overall good of our citizens, but they are so busy supporting their own pet policies and objectives that they refuse to look at the big picture. Special interest groups and advocates do not represent our citizens, they represent themselves. When they are prepared to sacrifice self for country only then will they be in a position to bring about affective change. As of now they are simply obstructionists that Trudeau requires to keep him in power.
commented 2016-08-27 16:24:12 -0400
So you think the system we had prior to Reagan was communism or socialism? Sounds like a moronic statement.

The fact is any system that uses protectionism and manufacturing and some small business is referred to as state capitalist but it depends on how far along it is in even that transition. Not everything is black and white.

Remember that socialism means workers owning the means of production. Even Venezuela did not reach socialism and Canada never reached that under the Trudeau years. In legislative socialism, that never occurs or almost never.

People like you need to be told how to think when the answers are on Wikipedia to find out what the real definitions are.

I want a version of capitalism which has tweaks to it and in most cases free trade abandoned.
commented 2016-08-27 16:17:34 -0400
Which is why I argue constantly about protectionism and abandoning free trade and neoliberalism.

Venezuela also still imported. The point of communism is to be like Cuba or China and have a system that is self-sustaining. Even images will show that Venezuela still relied on using US dollars for trading and banking. The point of communism is also to abandon private properly which opposition parties still had.

I do not support the system because I want Canada to have the Bank of Canada and a mixed model.

Marxism is not applied to every ideology also which is against the current version of capitalism. The real name is called anti-globalism. The Canadian Action party wants to follow what Mel Hurtig wanted. I bet you haven’t heard of that great man which never had a chance in our system because our system is about narrow choices and less parties. Real democracy would mean real choices.

Well you asked and I am saying what I support which is more protectionism and redone or rewritten free trade agreements. If those cannot be redone or improved, they should be scrapped. It is civic nationalism and anti-globalization.

Even Harper said he supported globalization in constant interviews during his tenure.
commented 2016-08-27 16:09:21 -0400
John Siciliano; nice Marxist rant. Now show me a country which has or is successful under communism. Maybe point to the model used until recently by the left, Venezuela. Capitalism is the only system which brings all people out of poverty.
commented 2016-08-27 15:34:43 -0400
Why does Rebel lump any party that is progressive in the left wing camp when there can be socialists, social democrats, liberals, liberal conservatives and even libertarian conservatives aka the Conservative party.

Also, Rebel continuously lies about everything to suit their agenda because they fail to recognize how when Canada used the Bank of Canada that it maintained a low debt and had to scrap it because of the oil crisis coupled with the US getting off the Gold Standard. France is the one that found out that the US did not have the gold reserves that it actually had.

Rebel also fails to mention how trickle down never results in the good results because we remember Harper’s promised corporate taxes and how that was supposed to guarantee high employment when corporate capitalism never guarantees it. The corporations pocketed the money and even Harper referred to his policies as globalism so the fact is Liberals and Conservatives practice almost the same economics but the results are the same.

Another failed policy by I would say the neoliberal class is how privatization is supposed to help society. It just results in a one-time selloff but the long-lasting impacts do nothing for society as a whole.

This is why corporate capitalism in all these areas prove that Rebel is just lying and they are the worst perpetrators of these policies.

They want no investment by the state. They want only tax cuts and trickle down and racing to the bottom. I also believe usury which we have plays a part in this because if capitalism is a constant race to the bottom with fiat money then you will always have a Ponzi scheme, fascism, and policies which only benefit the top. Real capitalism is with a nationalized banking sector or a value-based currency. Even John Turmel shows these in his Youtube videos how capitalism nowadays is about game-playing, rigging employment and economic numbers.

It is not that conservatism doesn’t work but it leads to more free trade and it is the worst form which leads to outsourcing quicker than the other neoliberal parties and it is basically a race to the bottom, and supposedly corporations are going to provide all the employment?

I believe that small business can never be huge with big businesses/corporations buying out initial startups and when campaigning conservatives/liberals because they have similar economic policies try to fool people on how small business is going to win the day when in the 1970’s small businesses actually existed. Which is why neoliberalism is a failure and Rebel just continuously protects the system and will never show how when there is a downturn that capitalism fails every time in its current form.

Nationalism meaning protectionism and rejigging the free trade agreements to be more worker friendly are the only ways to fix employment and fix capitalism. Otherwise, we will have neo-feudalism. Rebel is a corporatist and corporate-friendly news network and they want no full employment program other than the most basic employment done through oil production when it is only one sector!