April 17, 2015

"A disgrace": Alberta Human Rights Commission rules against Webber Academy in Muslim prayer case

Rebel Staff
 

Alberta's leading independent school, the Webber Academy, was just ordered by that province's so-called "Human Rights Commission" to pay $26,000 to the families of two Muslim students who were refused permission to pray in that non-denominational school.

Nobody is allowed to pray at the Webber Academy, though.

The school is very multicultural but they don't allow prayer or other religious activities there.

But instead of moving their children to a Muslim school, these families ran to the government and cried "discrimination" -- for being treated like everyone else at the school.

Of course, the HRCs sided with these troublemakers.

As usual, the Webber Academy is on the hook for the settlement plus their legal costs, while the Muslim families didn't pay a dime -- taxpayers footed the bill.

This comes on the heels of a Supreme Court ruling that a Quebec city council can't open their meetings with a (Christian) prayer from now on.

It's a disgrace.

(Photo: The Webber Academy)

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commented 2015-05-21 19:36:19 -0400
On a somewhat related topic, since it concerns Alberta and its new socialist government, I’ve discerned what may be the beginnings of a trend among the mainstream liberal media as follows: Now that an NDP party has won power in Alberta it seems to me the liberal elite and their media allies are working full tilt on likewise getting the federal NDP party elected in Canada as a whole by portraying Mulcair and his party as saintly good guys, with (need we ask) Stephen Harper as the demon king.
In parallel they seem to be abandoning their former proteges the Liberals because, presumably, they have finally concluded that Justin and his party are going nowhere whereas “Tom” looks very promising since he could go all the way to power the way his fellow-socialist Rachel has done.
I noticed this by watching Global National TV news and it’ll be interesting to see whether their fellow travellers CBC, CTV, Globe and Mail, Maclean’s etc pick up the same theme.
Global National News recently won an award for its news presentation and I can only conclude that they were honoured for this purely because of their relentless Harper bashing.
commented 2015-04-25 12:32:14 -0400
Why does Canada have these laws? Canada has been a Christian nation from the 1600s and we are 68% of the population and the majority. Why is Canada the only nation in the world when we have tyranny of the minority to the majority, without our consent? Why is it we have no say on who comes into our country and how many, when it is our country and future, and we have a new generation of kids who have a very insecure future, since alot of them cannot find work now, thanks to massive immigration, 500,000 TFWs a year and other immigration programs that displace local qualified people who are paying taxes and who by rights should have these jobs. What other nation in the world does this to its own people??
commented 2015-04-21 20:49:44 -0400
Wildrose Party – Alberta only hope
Left wing parties, not too much difference between them:
Alberta Liberal Party
Alberta New Democratic Party
Progressive Conservative Association of Alberta
Communist Party – Alberta http://www.communistparty-alberta.ca/
Green Party of Alberta
Voting for any left wing party does not make any sense as all of them will increase taxes; put us deeper in government debt which our children will have to pay. “No” to socialism!
commented 2015-04-21 16:34:25 -0400
Is anyone one surprised. The HRC is an abomination, if there was ever a bunch of hacks that should be run out of Alberta on a rail it is them. They are nothing more than enabling whiners to get a judgment from a band of people that are perhaps the most incompetent in government. Why we continue to pay for this farse is thanks to the PC’s. The most incompetent government in Canada…..including wynne is Ont. Hopefully Wildrose will disband this poisonous, useless so called tribunal when they are elected. This abomination is the true face of what the PC’s are all about.
commented 2015-04-21 14:45:17 -0400
In regards to making an appeal to the AHRC,
“If the CC&T(Chief of the Commission and Tribunals) decides that the complaint should have been dismissed or that the proposed settlement was fair and reasonable, the CC&T denies the appeal.

The CC&T’s decision on the appeal is final and binding on the parties, although it is subject to judicial review by the Court of Queen’s Bench. A judicial review is a review of the process used in making the decision and must be requested within six months of the date of the CC&T’s decision. "
http://www.albertahumanrights.ab.ca/tribunal_process.asp
commented 2015-04-21 02:21:23 -0400
The commission states that accommodating 2 students out of a few hundred should not be a hardship for the academy. So what happens when there is a dozen or more of them? There goes the academy! Because then they WILL have to provide a prayer room. Too bad the academy mishandled this whole thing from the beginning, now they’re screwed. I guess they never anticipated this situation. Hope they appeal to higher court.
commented 2015-04-20 23:01:26 -0400
ROCKY LUCCHETTA said: "It’s time for this farce of a commission to be investigated "

That won’t happen. When was the last time you EVER heard of a member of the judiciary, or a government lawyer investigated or censured for anything?

It’s the same thing that outrages people when police investigate wrongdoings by police (except the police are actually more thorough and honest). They are lawyers and judges. they are going to stick together and they will NEVER find anything wrong with each other’s behavior – PERIOD!
commented 2015-04-20 19:06:25 -0400
The HRCs throughout the country have outlived their usefulness (if they ever were useful ..) I have seen too many cases of people settling rather than be put through the unfortunate expenses of trying to defend themselves (the complainant seem to never have any financial risk). I find it especially galling that these out of touch organizations seem to penalize their victims with financial awards to complainants that can only result from the delusion that money grows on trees … it makes me wonder what percentage of HRC board members have ever run a successful business (I would bet there are next to none). They have got to go and frankly, if there was any desire to actually cut costs at the Provincial level, this would be a good place to start even if you paid every last one of them a couple years of severance pay … the ensuing savings could be put back into the classroom or basic policing or golly they could even be used to cut taxes (but then again, as a taxpayer, I am not responsible with my own money – sorry, what was I thinking .. silly me!)
commented 2015-04-20 13:41:24 -0400
Yes, once again the Human Rights Commission gets it wrong. Why do the majority have to bow down to the minority over trivial matters?? They should rename the commission, ‘the Human Wrong Commission’. Lately it seems that the commission is wielding a great deal of power and they’re doing it in an indiscriminate way. It’s time for this farce of a commission to be investigated for it’s mindless decisions and outrageous freedom to fine ($26,000 ??!?) what they consider, ‘offenders’. One thing muslims discovered in a short time is their ability to use OUR system against us, by using the courts to sue others. It just starts to stink, just as any ‘money grab’ does!!!!
commented 2015-04-20 12:21:03 -0400
So now all we need is 2 Christians to say The Lord’s Prayer at school, and then we shall see if they have the same religious freedom as Muslims! Please, please put it to the test!!! There must be at least 2 Christians at The Webber Academy!
commented 2015-04-20 10:34:03 -0400
Me thinks the is way deeper than the racist HRC, we have way to many compromised legal/political officials and down right crooks in all levels of the public sector, media,education police etc. time to prepare for very interesting times.
commented 2015-04-20 09:44:11 -0400
Tweeted my MLA and NDP leader and ask if they would do something about this disgrace and no answer from either.
commented 2015-04-20 08:51:17 -0400
Is anyone aware of Any HRC refusing a Christian complaint. Had a discussion yesterday with a radio guy and he asked me that. I am sure I read somewhere years ago, it happened. Think it goes back to days of Western Standard or before. Funny about some Muslims, when I worked downtown in an office tower never once did I see a Muslim pray in public. Very selective I believe when they need this to happen, especially helpful when you need to need to make a political statement or push your way of life onto someone else.
commented 2015-04-20 07:10:23 -0400
Here is a little read, if anyone is interested:
Islam in a Nutshell

Islam, not the Chinese, nor the Russians, represent the greatest threat to the world and might be the fulfillment of the book of Revelation in the Holy Bible.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here’s how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States — Muslim 0.6%

Australia — Muslim 1.5%

Canada — Muslim 1.9%

China — Muslim 1.8%

Italy — Muslim 1.5%

Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark — Muslim 2%

Germany — Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%

Spain — Muslim 4%

Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France — Muslim 8%

Philippines — Muslim 5%

Sir Lanka — Muslim 9.7%

Sweden — Muslim 5%

Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:

Guyana — Muslim 10%

India — Muslim 13.4%

Israel — Muslim 16%

Kenya — Muslim 10%

Russia — Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%

Chad — Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania — Muslim 70%

Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%

Qatar — Muslim 77.5%

Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and is on-going in:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%

Egypt — Muslim 90%

Gaza — Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%

Iran — Muslim 98%

Iraq — Muslim 97%

Jordan — Muslim 92%

Morocco — Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan — Muslim 97%

Palestine — Muslim 99%

Syria — Muslim 90%

Tajikistan — Muslim 90%

Turkey — Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%

Somalia — Muslim 100%

Yemen — Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

‘Before I was nine, I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel. — Leon Uris, ’The Haj’

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates are higher than the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.

Well, boys and girls, today we are letting the fox guard the henhouse. The wolves will be herding the sheep!
commented 2015-04-20 01:10:29 -0400
Sorry, one more thing, the difference between Julie and the Rebels, is that Julie still believes she needs to defend Islam, as if Islamists are the underdog in Canada.That white guilt thing, misguided codswallop!
commented 2015-04-19 23:13:36 -0400
“I did not come to Canada to have Sharia follow me” That is what I am looking for in an acceptable immigrant to Canada. Is that hateful? not even.
commented 2015-04-19 22:21:01 -0400
Alex P., I had not seen that before. Thanks for posting it. Worth a watch. I recommend it to Julie.
commented 2015-04-19 22:11:06 -0400
I agree Jack, why go there in the first place unless you wanted to beat your drum. It was in your face.
commented 2015-04-19 21:55:40 -0400
What I’d like to know is why these supposedly devout Sunni Muslims, who knew that Webber is a secular school with overt policies against religious practices on campus, wanted to enroll their kids at the school in the first place, given that there are Islamic schools in Calgary. Is this yet another example of aggressive, activist Muslims out to push the envelope, knowing full well that they could easily stir up an issue that could be taken to the pushovers at the Alberta HRC? It begs the question: What can Webber Academy do to prevent more of this?
commented 2015-04-19 21:48:18 -0400
Food for thought: Wild Pigs
Karl Marx once said, “Remove one freedom per generation and soon you will have no freedom and no one would have noticed.”
There was a chemistry professor in a large college that had some exchange students in the class. One day while the class was in the lab, the professor noticed one young man, an exchange student, who kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt. The professor asked the young man what was the matter.
The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country’s government and install a new communist regime.
In the midst of his story, he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. He asked: “Do you know how to catch wild pigs?”
The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line.
The young man said that it was no joke. "You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come every day to eat the free food.
“When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence.
“They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side.
“The pigs, which are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat that free corn again. You then slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd.
“Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity.”
The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening in America. The government keeps pushing us toward Communism/Socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tax exemptions, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare entitlements, medicine, drugs, etc., while we continually lose our freedoms, just a little at a time.
“One should always remember two truths:
There is no such thing as a free lunch, and you can never hire someone to provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself.”
If you see that all of this wonderful government ‘help’ is a problem confronting the future of democracy in America (and by extension, Canada), you might want to share this with your friends.
If you think the free ride is essential to your way of life, then you will probably not share this. BUT, God help us all when the gate slams shut!
Quote for today: “The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are now outnumbered.”
commented 2015-04-19 21:39:09 -0400
Wow… I go on vacation for a week and come back to find a s***storm happening. This is crazy. Julie Carole, read the AHRC docs Liza linked before you post such blatantly inaccurate, uninformed criticism. All you did was embarrass yourself. The parents of these kids wanted a dedicated public prayer space not afforded to any other religious group enrolled at the school, and in that way their demand does have an impact on everyone else. It is not only a disruption during school time but an affront to all students from other religious denominations, and a major blow to private, secular educational institutions everywhere. You clearly don’t get it, and I am sad for you. Maybe you should visit Saudi Arabia and try reciting the Lord’s Prayer in public. I’ll pray for you (privately, because that’s what prayer is) after you get tossed into a Saudi prison.
commented 2015-04-19 21:29:59 -0400
If those children could have done as everyone else, why did their mothers bring a complaint to the AHRC? A $26,000 plus result.
commented 2015-04-19 21:26:11 -0400
“The two mothers of the 14 year old boys,Shabnam Nazar & Farhat Amir, submit (i) The children are Sunni Muslims and such are required to pray 5 times a day. A minimum of one and a maximum of 2 of the required prayer times coincide with the school schedule. These prayers are compulsory and there is no scope for derogation. We emphasized that, as these prayers do not take longer than 5 minutes to perform, we were only asking for a maximum of 10 minutes per day to be set aside to fulfill this requirement.”
I say, (They are not sitting praying without disrupting anyone. They need space to spread out their mat, stand spread their arms kneel etc. )

Webbar school says,
“1. At the time of the admission of your boys (Naman Siddique and Sarmad Amir) to Webber Academy there was no agreement on the provision of prayer space. In fact, you were told by Dianne Lever, Director of Admissions, that we are a non-denominational school and as such we would not be able to accommodate space for prayers. "
http://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abhrc/doc/2015/2015ahrc8/2015ahrc8.html

I don’t hear where Ezra misrepresented anything. Read the whole doc. from complaint to remedy.
commented 2015-04-19 20:28:53 -0400
Well done COMPLETELY misrepresenting what happened, Ezra. How do you sleep at night.
Webber Academy is not allowed to stage prayer sessions, hold prayer or religious meetings, or bring religion into the curriculum – except as an overview course. They are not allowed to establish, in any way, one religion as the primary one at the school. They are secular.

STUDENTS, however MAY go off on their own and pray. STUDENTS have every right under Canadian law to go off into a room somewhere to pray. They are exerciseing their freedom of religion and choice. They are NOT forcing their religions on anyone else by this personal choice.

Your entire article is a LIE, Ezra.

Shame on you.

You have consciously misrepresented the facts of this case.
commented 2015-04-19 18:22:57 -0400
unfortunately the school compromised its legal position by letting them use an empty class room for prayers at the beginning, and then deciding that this violated school non denominational policy .
commented 2015-04-19 00:08:54 -0400
All the Alberta Government (Human Rights Commission) did was violate the Schools rights to freedom of Assembly and Freedom of Association. I don’t know who is running the show down at the Alberta Human Rights Commission, but they obviously need to go back to school. This is an absolute disgrace based on the oversight that the Commission has made. I really have to ask myself about the “Top minds” educating these students as well, I mean did anyone from the Webber School students, instructors, facilitators, legal advisor’s use their vast education and step up in their own defence through this tribunal and say hey, what about our freedom of assembly& freedom of association. In fact when it comes to these issues that the Muslims are antagonistically forcing on the people of Alberta, and well Canadians, we need to trump them simply by stating our rights to Freedom of Assembly & Freedom of Association. In other words, if you don’t like it develop your own school and set your own rules and force it on your own student members. Good luck to that end !
commented 2015-04-18 23:56:13 -0400
Freedom of assembly, sometimes used interchangeably with the <a href=“”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_association">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_association" title=“Freedom of association”>freedom of association, is the <a href=“”http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Individual_right_or_ability&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Individual_right_or_ability&amp;action=edit&amp;redlink=1" class=“new” title=“Individual right or ability (page does not exist)”>individual right or ability to come together and collectively express, promote, pursue, and defend their ideas.<a href=“”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_assembly#cite_note-1">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_assembly#cite_note-1“>[1] The right to freedom of association is recognized as a ”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_right" title=“Human right” class=“mw-redirect”>human right, <a href=“”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_freedom">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_freedom" title=“Political freedom”>political right and <a href=“”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_liberties">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_liberties" title=“Civil liberties”>civil liberty.

Freedom of assembly and freedom of association may be used to distinguish between the freedom to assemble in public places and the freedom of joining an association. Freedom of assembly is often used in the context of the <a href=“”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_protest">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_protest" title=“Right to protest”>right to protest, while freedom of association is used in the context of labor rights and the <a href=“”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States" title=“Constitution of the United States” class=“mw-redirect”>Constitution of the United States, is interpreted to mean both the freedom to assemble and the freedom to join an association.<a href=“”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_assembly#cite_note-2">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_assembly#cite_note-2">[2][<a href=“”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability" title=“Wikipedia:Verifiability”>not in citation given]

The United States Constitution explicitly provides for ‘the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances’" in the <a href=“”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution" title=“First Amendment to the United States Constitution”>First Amendment.
commented 2015-04-18 23:37:02 -0400
Because we have made our country an easy mark.