September 12, 2015

"A liar and a blamer": Kurdi's father accused of being a human trafficker -- but will Media Party investigate?

Ezra LevantRebel Commander
 

A shocking allegation: A woman who claims to have been on the same Turkish people-smuggling boat as that dead Kurdish boy, Aylan Kurdi, now claims that Kurdi’s own father, Abdullah, was the smuggler.

She says he was the one who was driving the boat, who capsized it, who didn’t have enough life jackets, who let people drown, including his own family.

An incredible allegation that if true could explain some of the bizarre inconsistencies of the story so far.

The Kurdis were not in Syria or any other war zone; they'd been living in Turkey for three years. Turkey is a democracy and Kurds are a large minority there. If you’re in Turkey, you’re not a refugee fleeing danger.

Kurdi's sister Tima said they were all getting into a boat to go to Europe. Not to get away from war but because Abdullah Kurdi needed dental work.

Kurdi’s first comments last week? The Wall Street Journal says he told reporters he swam ashore by himself but he told other reporters that the coast guard saved him. That’s not a minor detail but a pretty central fact.

I’m not a conspiracy theorist and don’t think this is part of a major propaganda scheme but more likely a minor propaganda scheme: A human smuggler trying to hide his own tracks.

But he’s been used as a major propaganda talking point by countless opportunists who saw the first version of his story as a battering ram to attack the borders and national security of the West and thereby let in millions of young Muslim men.

Here in Canada, far-left-wing NDP MP, Fin Donnelly, went on TV and flat-out lied, claiming that Canada had rejected a refugee application from Abdullah Kurdi and his family. That was a lie — Canada never received a refugee application from them and they were not refugees. But the lie was too delicious, and the CBC and the rest of the world ran with it.

Remember 25 years ago, when tearful testimony by a pretty, articulate Kuwaiti girl named Nayirah -- about babies being thrown from incubators -- helped steer America into going to war with Iraq?

I’m not saying that Abdullah Kurdi or Aylan Kurdi are this year’s Nayirah. It’s much more likely that he’s just a disgraceful human trafficker, who profited off the misery of his own people, and then one day his own family died because of his incompetence or bad luck.

I wish the Media Party would take five minutes off of their campaign for open borders and unlimited Muslim immigration, to do some journalism here.

 

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commented 2015-09-15 11:09:43 -0400
Erin,

Thank you so very much for your comments – I really appreciate it.

You rule.

I said it before and I will say it again – I wish other conservatives here were like you. Unfortunately you seem to be one of the few conservatives here that are sensible, reasonable, logical and understand why someone may have an opposing view even if you disagree with it.

Alex is the opposite of this as you obviously can see since you posted a message to him.

Thank you again.
commented 2015-09-15 10:07:53 -0400
Dear Erin Berney,
I know I went too far to prove my point. Was my apology in advance not adequate for you? I have been a very competitive person all my life. If you read the comments carefully you will see that he continually challenged me into this.
I completely disagree about his eloquence. He condescends almost everyone who comments with his responses. Have you seen how many other people use vulgarity on him. I am not saying it is right, but it is very understandable. I shall read into the errors of my wording of the First and Second World Wars. “Warrior Nation”. I am very sad to see why you don’t see why I call him a traitor. Think about this one a little more.
Erin Berney, All Rebels. I acknowledge a lot of Inappropriateness. I feel he compelled me to do it. If the first apology was not enough. Once again, I am sorry.
commented 2015-09-15 04:07:48 -0400
Dear Alex Armutlu,
You’re giving “conservatives” a bad name, and I beg you to stop, please. I loathe turnips, and your repetition of the word is just making me ill. Further, in Canada, we say the “First” and “Second World War”, not “WWI” and “WWII”. What are you, American? Finally, take a step back and re-read your comments vs. Jimmy’s, and reconsider which of you is really acting like a pussy.
I’m not saying I agree with everything Jimmy said. In fact, I probably disagree more than I agree, but he at least tried to express his views objectively, and he managed to do so quite eloquently in my opinion. On the other hand, Alex, your “arguments” make no sense, whatsoever.
Why don’t you counter one of Jimmy’s points with facts, instead of leaping to accusations that he’s a “bitch” and “traitor”, and obsessing over a stupid watch? Seriously?
Get over it, already.
commented 2015-09-15 00:43:46 -0400
In a homosexual relationship. You would definitely, guaranteed, 100%, most certainly be the bitch.
By the way, you never answered to this, It also proves you are a bitch. and a traitor.

Turnip wrote,
“Our government’s lack of compassion in the face of an enormous humanitarian crisis is forcing us to face up to how much we have lost in our conversion from peace-keeper to “warrior nation,”

If Canada practiced what what you are preaching. In WW1 and 2, we should have never sent our troops to Europe. We should have sent them humanitarian aid only. So what our troops did in the two world wars were all for nothing. What a fucking asshole you are for disrespecting our Veterans and our military in combat right now.

So let us say Justin was PM during the wars and we did not act like a “warrior nation” and Hitler won the war. Now listen carefully you fucking metro sexual retard. The “enormous humanitarian crisis” we have will look like a sand pebble compared to what Hitler would have made us face had he won the war.

When I say Obama is feeding the terrorists buy buying their oil. You say that it is impossible for America to facilitate the consumption of Canadian oil. What a fucking retard. So let’s continue sending money to the terrorists.

So face it turnip, when it comes to commenting on “The Rebel”. Just like Justin Tinkerbell, you are just not cut out for the job.
commented 2015-09-15 00:15:39 -0400
Alex,

Well it means fuck all if you were just given the watch.

I will be happy to make the trip to Calgary to see your watch and every piece of paperwork that backs up that you shelled out the coin to buy it.
commented 2015-09-14 23:49:21 -0400
Turnip,
The bank is only a mile away. All the info. is in my head
Who the fuck said anything about earning it.Is everyone loving this pussy’s response. I told you the watch I own is worth more than your best year. You are a typical pussy Liberal. RECEIPT, are you fucking kidding me. Why do you think insurance companies demand appraisals on very high valued items. They don’t want receipts. You obviously don’t insure anything of high value. I told you I will provide you with an appraisal of the watch with my name on it. FYI, you stupid ignoramus, A scratch does not diminish the value of an expensive watch. It may effect the price one fetches for it.
You obviously are a little metro sexual pussy. We all know you will never agree. So I will spare the the good people at The Rebel your semantics. I will also ignore the security risks just to show the people that you are a wimp that talks so big. Go google Vacheron Constantin, Tour deL’ile. Only seven made a year. My appraisal says $800,000. I have refused an offer of $1.000.000. Scratches and all. If you are ever in Calgary, I will enable you to see and verify on one condition. If what I say is true. You allow me to give you one punch. I guarantee you this redneck fist will ensure your nose will reach your brain stem you fucking little, retarded turnip that pretends he’s got balls. Exactly what is to be expected from a Liberal.
Peter Netterville, I am beginning to feel those tendencies you were talking about.
My apologies to the rebel readers. I am not a bragging person. This asshole compelled me to do it.
My apologies for my vulgarity also. I am a Christian. I am not a Saint.
commented 2015-09-14 22:10:03 -0400
Alex,

How about you go to the bank first and get that information.

In addition – how do I know that you earned that watch? It could have been given to you in a will for example. Do you have the receipt that you actually purchased the watch? Also – by not having the watch in my hand – any sort of online value may not actually be the case with your watch. Even a slight scratch can diminish the value of a watch greatly.

How about we do this in person. Do you have the balls to do that?
commented 2015-09-14 21:28:50 -0400
Jimmy Boy, I am still waiting for you to tell me what USSR stands for. I agree with Alex, you have no balls.
commented 2015-09-14 18:27:24 -0400
Jimmy,
How about I make a deal with you. If my watch is worth more than your best year. You will promise to never comment on The Rebel again. If it is worth less than your best year. I will promise to never comment on The Rebel again. I can take the watch. Wrap it around my middle finger send you a picture with my other middle finger saluting you also. Today if you agree. You will be able to see the details so you can look online for its value.
Now the bet rules.If you agree that the watch is worth more but you want some proof of its authenticity and value. I will go as far as going to the bank tomorrow. Getting the copy of the appraisal which is made out to my name and sending it to you. If you claim that you have made more than the watch is worth in one tax year. You are to provide me with a stamped copy of the tax return within three days.

C’mon turnip show some balls if you have any. If you agree, just respond “I agree and promise to the bet rules”
commented 2015-09-14 17:05:19 -0400
So um, getting back to the topic ….it’s interesting that as soon as information comes out that runs contrary to the msm’s narrative about papa Kurdi the msm drop this story like a hot potato. That they’re not busy researching and exploring this man’s actions and possibly his motives doesn’t surprise me at all. Now that the propaganda value is spent, let’s move along, nothing to see here folks. There were a number of red flags in this story right off the top and now there’s an even bigger one. At minimum this man acted recklessly, it’s doubtful that his situation was as dire as we were led to believe and the speed and ease with which he returned to Syria (the land from which he was fleeing) is also difficult to reconcile with the original story. Interestingly, and not surprisingly also, an even bigger disaster occurred over the weekend. This one involved the deaths of 15 children, 4 of whom were infants, yet I don’t see any chest-beating or crocodile tears by the msm and so far no one has suggested that these deaths too are Canada’s fault. My sense is that while many Canadians feel badly for these refugees, few believe that their circumstances are our fault or that we should fling open the doors and let in whoever may want to show up in whatever numbers.
commented 2015-09-14 16:31:30 -0400
Alex,

I know what website I am posting at – which caters to batshit crazy conservatives, so getting called out by you or anyone else is like getting called out by Sarah Palin or the Westboro Baptist Church. Reasonable conservatives and liberals just laugh that shit off.

Now about that watch and my CBC question. Are you going to answer?
commented 2015-09-14 15:56:21 -0400
I avoid your comments because they are retarded, boring and cumbersome. When you are called retarded by so many people, maybe you should get the picture. Do you personally know anyone with half a brain that could argue my comments?
commented 2015-09-14 15:43:23 -0400
Alex,

You mean like how you have avoided all my comments?

Now about that watch. And how many times have you written to the CBC.
commented 2015-09-14 15:05:09 -0400
Turnip,
I have told you too much already. Why have you avoided my comments?
commented 2015-09-14 13:49:06 -0400
Glenn,

It’s all good – nothing offends me. It’s just fun banter back and forth.
commented 2015-09-14 13:45:33 -0400
Alex,

Oh you are talking to me again. Well that didn’t take long. I guess you don’t have much willpower.

LOL.

Now how about that watch of yours – what is the make and model?
commented 2015-09-13 22:24:09 -0400
Oh Turnip,
Your intellect is so cumbersome and boring. Reading 1/3 into your comments. Only the words “blah blah blah” came to me.
In the hopes that you will not respond to my comments furthermore. Regretfully , I will comment on the first third of your comment in hopes of exposing your stupidity.
Turnip wrote,
“Our government’s lack of compassion in the face of an enormous humanitarian crisis is forcing us to face up to how much we have lost in our conversion from peace-keeper to “warrior nation,”

If Canada practiced what what you are preaching. In WW1 and 2, we should have never sent our troops to Europe. We should have sent them humanitarian aid only. So what our troops did in the two world wars were all for nothing. What a fucking asshole you are for disrespecting our Veterans and our military in combat right now.

So let us say Justin was PM during the wars and we did not act like a “warrior nation” and Hitler won the war. Now listen carefully you fucking metro sexual retard. The “enormous humanitarian crisis” we have will look like a sand pebble compared to what Hitler would have made us face had he won the war.

When I say Obama is feeding the terrorists buy buying their oil. You say that it is impossible for America to facilitate the consumption of Canadian oil. What a fucking retard. So let’s continue sending money to the terrorists.

So face it turnip, when it comes to commenting on “The Rebel”. Just like Justin Tinkerbell, you are just not cut out for the job.
commented 2015-09-13 22:08:51 -0400
I see a system wherein each and every taxpayer would enjoy benefit….up to an including the full amout of income tax owed….treated with the same taxation generousity as political contributions…..for any legitamit target of approved policy generosity…. So that all small stake tax payers would get to select what beneficiaries they wish ….with the money that would have gone to Ottawa anyway.
commented 2015-09-13 21:43:24 -0400
Jimmy, I appologise sincerely for the hurtful and insulting things I have said about you before….even the ones that were true…..:-)

What you just said was truely eloquent….

But what is in called in philosophy…..the falacy of “begging the question” is beautifully framed in the sophistry you just said. The question being is it OK for the government to take on the role of fixing the shattered shards of a broken world with other people’s money and legitamit security concerns be damned.

Jimmy…..I am Buddhist ….I believe in merit….I believe in compassion…..I believe in redemption….I believe that kharma can be mitigated with VOLUNTARY generosity. …….but I also believe in the undesireable kharmic consequence of perverting merit with extortion of generosity ….and i also believe in the perversion of the principle of right speech with “senseless speach”…or what is called in common vernacular…..BULLSHIT

I will never contend with you on the merit of generosity or it’s mitigating power with kharma…..

BUT IT IS NONE OF THE GOVERNMENT’S FUCKING BUSINESS!!!!!

This from someone who worked a quarter century for the government.
commented 2015-09-13 19:53:23 -0400
Oh by the way Alex:

It took a tragic photograph of an innocent’s death to finally raise the question of Canadian values in an otherwise petty, parochial election campaign centred mainly on divvying up the spoils of a sputtering economy.

Suddenly, we were talking about the kind of country we once were, about the discomfort and even shame we feel in realizing how mean and self-centered we have become. We began to talk about values, the kinds of higher aspirations we have for our country beyond maxing out GDP and reducing the tax “burden.”

Our government’s lack of compassion in the face of an enormous humanitarian crisis is forcing us to face up to how much we have lost in our conversion from peace-keeper to “warrior nation,” from the land of clear skies and clean water to “energy super-power,” from welcoming host to a place of suspicion and even bigotry. Not just compassion seemed to have abandoned us, but our native tolerance, forbearance, optimism, generosity, hospitality.

On reflection, though, it’s clear that what’s been lost are not the values themselves, but their expression in public policy. We remain a decent people; the groundswell of support for assistance to Syrian refugees is just the most recent demonstration of that fact.

Of course, people disagree over right and wrong, good and bad, but it’s important for any nation to work out a consensus on some core values if it’s to avoid being mired in the kind of venomous cultural warfare that currently afflicts the United States and which threatens to disrupt the Canadian comity.

And the only way to achieve that consensus is through intelligent, respectful discussion. Positions need to be explored, not just in academic or political forums, but also in popular culture, from television drama, comedy and documentaries, to music and literature.

We have been fortunate in this country to have enjoyed, for most of the past century, a powerful, multifaceted vehicle for developing national consensus on what we believe in, where we want to go and how we want to get there. A public space, accessible to all, in which issues that concern us as citizens (and not just as consumers or “tax-payers”) can be explored with civility and intelligence.

This is, of course, our public broadcasting system, the CBC/Radio-Canada, a creation every bit as brilliant and just as implicate in the Canadian identity as universal health care and UN peacekeeping.

If any proof were needed, the CBC’s significance is illustrated by the very fact that its current precarious position has not become an election issue.

Who, after all, will defend the ineptly managed, disastrously underfunded CBC? Certainly not the private, for-profit radio and television industry, or even newspapers, all of whom see themselves as being in direct competition with the CBC, both on the air and online. And certainly not the CBC itself: that would be seen as highly inappropriate by the current President and Board of Directors, firmly under the thumb of their benefactors in the PMO.

In poll after poll, year after year, Canadians of all political stripes have voiced their overwhelming support for the public broadcaster. But the voices of advocates are all but absent from mainstream media, largely confined to the internet where they risk being lost in the noise.

Unless the parties themselves and their leaders are prepared to engage in open, competitive debate on the future of our public broadcaster — our single most important cultural institution — there is no hope of anything more than the minimal measures of support being offered in the Liberal and NDP platforms from being realized. And the Conservatives will continue to dream of dismantling the institution which has for generations appealed to our better angels, and done so much to make us who we are.
commented 2015-09-13 16:27:28 -0400
Alex,

You are confused about a lot of things – so your response to his answers isn’t the least bit surprising.
commented 2015-09-13 11:58:43 -0400
Richard, Thank-you for your answers but you confuse me,
You say yes to 3} which acknowledges what the CBC did with the Donnelly case as a form of propaganda. But then you said yes to 2} calling this fair? Also, also should not 3} and 4} have the same response?
commented 2015-09-13 11:04:57 -0400
HENRY REARDON – I think Ezra made a very good point at the end of his YouTube bringing up the story about the Kuwaiti girl named Nayirah — about babies being thrown from incubators — and how it helped steer America into going to war with Iraq?

So yes I stand behind my original comments to this Ezra’s news story as a whole…
“It’s only an allegation and a cruel one if untrue.
For now a non newsworthy story unless Mr. Kurdi the father actually admits it’s true… "
commented 2015-09-13 10:56:29 -0400
LEX ARMUTLU asks Richard Brinkman,
You claim to be some sort of journalist. I have not visited your site yet. Can you please answer a few questions?
Answer : YES
1} Is it not a journalist’s job to strive for objective and responsible journalism?
Answer : YES
2} At the CBC, when Paul Calandra get’s interviewed I always see the likes of Adam Voight or Charlie Angus to argue Paul’s statements. When Fin the Lying prick Donnelly got interviewed on the CBC he was all alone with nobody to argue his statements. Is this fair?
Answer : YES
3} Would you call 2} A form of propaganda?
Answer : YES
4} If yes, would you call the CBC a left wing propaganda machine?
Answer : NO
5}If yes, and you learn that the CBC takes $1.1 Billion every year from tax payers. Would you call it criminal?
Answer : NO
6}The Liberals or the NDP secretly promise the Board of the CBC to double the budget if elected. Can an allegation like this be a motivating factor for the propaganda?
Answer : NO

Edmonton’s Active Citizenship – Free News Sharing
http://www.ciactivist.org/FreeNews.html
commented 2015-09-13 10:53:52 -0400
Bravo said, “The media party as almost as evil as islam itself – in fact it was argued and pointed out to me last night that the media are far ore evil than islam itself.”

I agree, but why I find the media party more evil than ISIS (as the “rep” of true Islam), is that the media party is extremely deceptive liars where as ISIS at least tells you precisely what they are going to do to you and why. ISIS is straight forward. Convert or die. The media party and their lies and deception are far more insidious.
commented 2015-09-13 10:41:54 -0400
Morgan Waters – this story has photos of the house Abdullah Kurdi and his family rented and lived in while in Turkey. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3232251/Aylan-father-s-REAL-story-Abdullah-Kurdi-forced-deny-smuggler-new-questions-emerge-picture-shook-world.html

They did not live in the refugee tents.

It also documents that Abdullah worked and could afford toys and trikes for his kids and weekend outings for his family. They were not rich but their lives were not so much under threat that they had to risk lives in a smuggler’s boat.

If Kurdi was appointed captain by the smugglers, there is no way he wasn’t paid. The man is not a moron and his situation did not require he work as a smuggling captain for free.
commented 2015-09-13 08:04:21 -0400
This entire story is tragic only because the media picked it up and ran with it.

The media party as almost as evil as islam itself – in fact it was argued and pointed out to me last night that the media are far ore evil than islam itself.

People die every day in war zones. The only reason this one is so dramatic is because the entitled Canadian seldom sees this type of thing. The folks in the middle east do not give a damn because that is how cheap life is over there’

Heck if you need cash in the middle east it is not unusual to sell your girl children – into marriage or slavery.

When you bring that to our country or countries like ours – you get nothing good and everything bad.

When you hear people say – “I would like to see Canada do more.” – remember this. Even the people you want to help do not care. Once they are set up in your society and living on your tax dollars the demands will start – as they do in every country the islamics end up in.

There are NO countries that have islam in them that are happy and at peace – and if you argue that Canada does – well, you wait – it is changing and not for the better,

Googe – “islam in Malmo Sweden”.

And while you are at it – take a look here – at a woman who supported the importation of islam – she unfortunately discovered how truly evil it is – study the pictures closely and read the article – it is very enlightening.

http://www.barnhardt.biz/2015/09/10/before-you-follow-pope-francis-command-to-prove-yourselves-worthy-of-him/

If you honestly do not think this is what is coming you are one of those who will eventually cause the downfall of your own country – because giving it away to others, after many have died for us to be here, is not only foolish but very dangerous.

Wait for the evils of islam to destroy Europe – war is coming and we are next – never doubt this.
commented 2015-09-13 06:39:47 -0400
To be clear: war in Syria is being funded by actors in Gulf countries, not Jordan or Lebanon.
commented 2015-09-13 06:37:38 -0400
Context, context, context.

I don’t believe Kurdi’s story either, but here’s why. It’s my understanding that most smugglers don’t actually captain those boats. According to people who know way more about this than I do, the smugglers get the money from migrants, nominate a “captain”, hand them a GPS, and then wish them luck. That’s why those boats are so flimsy. The smugglers can afford to lose them. I think Kurdi might have been “captianized” and made up the whole story about the Turkish captain out of pure guilt.

That’s just my theory based on a different perspective to some of the witness reports in the wire stories, but here’s a fact: the Kurdis had no known legal status in Turkey. They were Syrian Kurds who had gone there as refugees to escape ISIL. That’s why they were called “Kurdis” instead of their real name, which is Shenu according to plenty of sources in the middle east. A couple of reminders about Kurds – they are a distinct non-Arab group and culturally women are treated in a much more familiar way to us westerners. Women fight in the PKK separatist ranks against the Turkish government. Turkey is dealing with thousands of refugees – THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS. Life there as a refugee is dire. As it is in all the middle eastern countries that have accepted refugees. Don’t forget, this war has been going on for years. Add to that the thousands more Palestinians and Iraqi refugees being house in places like Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon.

I would like to see Canada do more. That would make me proud. That said, the real onus of absorbing more of the impact of the refugees crisis should be on the rich Arab nations. Only the poor ones have stepped up. Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Kuwait should be doing a lot more to help. Problem is, and the Syrian refugees know this, the war against Assad is being funded from officials and individuals in those countries. If I was a Syrian refugee, I’d want to get as far away from the entire warmongering region as possible.
commented 2015-09-13 00:08:41 -0400
Well, this certainly won’t help the NDP’s and Liberal’s positions…