April 24, 2015

Alberta election: Debate featured plenty of jabs but no knockouts

Marc PatroneRebel Commentator

Plenty of jabs but no knock outs in the Alberta leaders debate hosted by Global TV in Edmonton.

To no one's surprise, Premier Jim Prentice was the target of attacks from all sides with Wildrose leader Brian
Jean hammering him repeatedly on the PC budget's proposed 59 hikes.

Prentice shot back that Jean's budget plan "doesn't hang together which is the worse thing for a conservative to do."

After challenging Jean to produce numbers, Prentice dismissed the Wildrose plan before turning his guns on the NDP's Rachel Notley's proposed hike in the corporate tax rate.

The two mixed up over much of the evening with Notley accusing Prentice of "fear mongering" and misrepresenting her proposed 12% corporate rate by suggesting it was 20%.

Prentice responded by mocking Notley's accounting by saying "math is hard," an apparent reference to the NDP's bungled roll out of their budget platform.

Liberal leader Dr. David Swann did his best to maintain a level decorum by not resorting to interruptions or direct attacks.

He said the only party he would not enter into a "coalition" with in a minority situation was Wildrose.

It's back to the hustings for all parties as they gear up for election day May 5th.

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commented 2015-04-27 00:18:24 -0400
Liza you hit the nail right on the head.
commented 2015-04-25 00:32:07 -0400
He’s not so polished as the rest, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t the right choice. I hope people can see the logic in his premise regardless.
commented 2015-04-24 22:00:23 -0400
LIZA, I agree that funding procedures elsewhere would help to free up more spots for others who could not pursue such an option and provide an incentive for corrective measures in our system. Too bad Brian Jean did not explain it that way and did not comment on other steps he would take make AHS more efficient. By the way, no surprize the ‘progressive’ Calgary Herald editorial on April 22nd criticized the Wildrose plan, calling it stupid.
commented 2015-04-24 17:59:51 -0400
Prentice and Notely calling Brian Jean’s point to reduce waiting times by funding( with a cap of course), procedures out of province or country, a two tiered medical system,only benefiting the rich, just shows how they both underestimate the intelligence of the voter. Why doesn’t it occur to them that such a plan would take the pressure off of the Alberta med. system, and actually help to get the rest of us timely care. I know a lot of people who have lost loved ones to that system, including myself. Boy would I welcome Brian Jeans idea. Prentice bragging about Alberta’s system as one of the best, seriously makes me want to gag. There are so many pigs at that trough it is criminal. Fat cats in suits while people wait, and wait. It is one of the least efficient in the country and I wouldn’t trust Prentice to turf any of his buddies to the curb to make it more efficient. He will end up costing Alberta more money with any plan he comes up with to “fix” it.
Just watched it on Youtube.
commented 2015-04-24 16:15:25 -0400
From the media reports, one gets the impression that the NDP has become their darling. A recent poll shows the PC’s at 26%, WRP at 32% and NDP at 31%. Most disappointing was Brian Jean kowtowing to political correctness with him saying “man-made climate change is real”, which the media and leftwing pundits gloated over with glee. For example, Paul Fairie, Ph.D in Political Science and instructor at the University of Calgary tweeted, “Where does the climate change denier vote go now”? As well, Paula Simons with the Calgary Herald, tweeting, “Brian Jean says man-made climate change is real. Well, look at that. He’s learned another lesson from Danielle Smith’s mistakes in 2012”. Rob Brown, anchor CBC news Calgary, “Man made climate change is real – Brian Jean. Glad he cleared that up.” According to the left, any dissent from this fiction is verboten – YOU MUST BELIEVE!
commented 2015-04-24 16:13:16 -0400
Milton Friedman (1975):
“I do not believe that the solution to our problem is simply to elect the right people. The important thing is to establish a political climate of opinion which will make it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing. Unless it is politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing, the right people will not do the right thing either, or if they try, they will shortly be out of office.”
commented 2015-04-24 15:12:03 -0400
Not even an optimistic leftie would predict the NDP would take power in Alberta, I’m not naïve. But if Notley shows the same moxie in the legislature as she did during the debate, we’d certainly benefit from better opposition should the NDP finish second. Let’s face it, fortunately, the bloom off the Wildrose has withered away. And if they ever do win (worst case scenario), watch for a resurrection of that Lake of Fire fiasco. Although I’m betting some of the show-size IQ types here would welcome that.
commented 2015-04-24 15:05:04 -0400
Being wildrose style conservative it was a pain to watch how NDP boss was more “likeable” as a person and in debating for most people who have no clear understanding how REAL economy works (most of Alberta population). I do not understand why Jean did not attack her with powerful arguments of “progressive” personal tax / 20% corporate tax increase and history of NDP disastrous mismanagement in other provinces.
I am worrying to see NDP as our next Government (with PC is coalition member).
commented 2015-04-24 14:41:20 -0400
Prentice came across as per the PC model here in Alberta. Arrogant, entitled, smarter then everyone else, and mad that others actually did not believe himself or challenged him. He reminds me of Redfraud just he wears a suit instead of a skirt. Prince and princess……..
commented 2015-04-24 14:39:30 -0400
Ken — the same complaint was levelled at Preston Manning, who would have made an EXCELLENT leader… Then again, delivery doesn’t really get my attention; substance does. Jean has substance (or, at least, his party’s platform does). The rest? “…not so much…”
commented 2015-04-24 14:36:35 -0400
Jean with the wildrose needs to loosen up. Less robotic scripted messaging and more speaking from the heart to get his message across. I plan on voting wildrose but jean needs some polishing and be a lot more personable and natural. Get some coaching and public speaking training around this. Strong leaders come,across natural . I was disappointed in his delivery. It was really quite junior. What he said was good but the delivery sucked.
commented 2015-04-24 14:28:08 -0400
Actually watching the debate I see the NDP and the Liberals as simply a distraction who really take away from getting down to the real debate that should get into the meat and potatoes between the wildrose and the PC,s . That would be good, informative and really discuss the issues facing the electorate. Swan is just filling a spot open in the name of the liberals, carbon tax, what an idiot, and Notely wants programming and public services at all costs. Both are disasters and speak to an agenda of the lefty movement but have no traction in reality or fully represent the electorate. Tax tax tax and more tax is what I see 3 parties suggesting with the exception of the wildrose. Prentice already implemented more taxes, and the liberals and the NDP want to implement more taxes. The wildrose clearly stated many times no new taxes and would roll back the prentice tax. Both the NDP and the liberals would also drive business away with there taxes. And they believe we are stupid enough not to realize that anytime you add costs to business it is us the consumer who ends up paying more expensive commodities and services. In the end the consumer pays. Where do you think the carbon tax would get paid from……..
commented 2015-04-24 14:12:03 -0400
Fecal Point, the NDP are a disaster in waiting. There is no social program that the NDP would not implemented. There is no tax that they wouldn’t implement to pay for all their social programs.

I would be quite interested in have a fact filled, evidence based, debate with you on the policies of the NDP verses Conservative. If you convince me that the NDP are the way to vote, then I will vote NDP.

Are you interested?
commented 2015-04-24 14:06:07 -0400
Anybody but PC. That’s my motto.
commented 2015-04-24 14:03:00 -0400
Warren Wade – Completely agree. The very thought of the NDP having any power in Alberta is a nightmare; we’ve seen what they’ve done to other provinces. It’s conservatism that has kept Alberta strong but the PC party is no longer conservative. The only conservative party running in this election is Wildrose.
commented 2015-04-24 13:49:36 -0400
Fecal — I hope you’ve got lots of money to lose. If your precious NDP gets in, you and the rest of us will lose all of it… (speaking from experience!) You can throw your verbal (written?) jabs all you like; we know where you stand, and we’re not particularly paying attention. If you don’t like Alberta, I’m sure you’ll be quite content in Ontario… or Nova Scotia… or New Brunswick… or Manitoba…
commented 2015-04-24 13:09:22 -0400
Yes fecal point Mr. Jean was a bit robotic a little disappointed in that, BUT,who in their right mind would vote for progressive commies and why is the left so damned scared of keeping more of their hard earned money!! Except there are those that post fecal matter from their mommies basement!!!!
commented 2015-04-24 12:31:16 -0400
Yeah, Mr. Jean, who can’t even utter a phrase without a teleprompter, probably captured the robotic vote given his stiff delivery. But let’s face it, Notley totally killed, even getting under the skin of the arrogant and condescending Jim “math is hard” Prentice. Swann mailed it in as usual. But as usual, the Al-bur-duh contingent will vote in the PCs, while the NDP will capture much of Edmonton, the only sensible municipality in the province.
commented 2015-04-24 11:28:23 -0400
Good job Mr. Jean. Clear winner. Dr. Swann seems to be an honourable man and comported himself with dignity and respect more than all others. Prentice was arrogant, nervous, disrespectful to the point of being rude, and in general, an a**hole.