May 19, 2015

"Dear career women: Please stop throwing your ovaries in the garbage"

Gavin McInnesRebel Commentator

So I broke the internet week when I told a female panelist on Sean Hannity's show that she'd be happier if she was married and at home with children.

I just think moms who stay home with their children don't get enough credit or respect, but feminists insist on twisting my words.

Sometimes this makes me lose my temper (as you'll see.)

But I have kids and I want everyone to share that experience. Is that so bad?

PS: The "wage gap" is a myth.

Anyway, tell me if you agree or not in the comments.


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commented 2015-11-14 22:27:57 -0500
Megan, I am 100% on your side! I absolutly agree with you. Everyone is an individual, and I’ll choose to do with my life as I see fit. For all the talk Gavin does of “empiricism, data, yada, yada, yada” he sure is emotionally invested in other peoples choices sometimes. Someone who truly appreciated the significance of data would keep his emotional out bursts in check, and would understand that there are outliers in every sampled group. To be fair to Gavin, the most recent video he did on this topic came with the disclaimer I just mentioned. However, what makes me cringe in this video, is the way he treats his co-panelist, and especially the woman in the next clip by screaming out “I never insisted anything you f**king idiot!”. He heard something he didn’t like, and reacted emotionally to it. Gavin: no one is stepping on your toes. You still have a right to have children, and enjoy them. I have a right to not have children, and choose a career, and enjoy that instead. It’s the difference between what makes you happy, vs. what make me happy. You can quote the study until you’re blue in the face, but it still won’t apply to me (and I can imagine many others out there as well!). I can even turn around and slap down a peer reviewed study, explaining why your wrong! But sociological studies be damned, as anthropology is not a hard science. You can certainly quote the data, but in this particular field of study, you cannot make an absolute statement.
commented 2015-06-05 13:54:38 -0400
Well, I had been a huge fan of Gavin’s until this. One more example of how men think they have the authority to tell us women what to want. I have chosen not to have children, which some might see as a selfish decision. I really don’t give a shit what any of you, including Gavin, think of this, because I see so many women having children to fulfill their own shortcomings in life, which is SO much more selfish! I chose to volunteer, go to school, earn my own living, fine tune my talents and abilities because I CAN. I would not have this freedom with children, which is why I don’t want them. (Neither does my long term boyfriend). So by choosing to have a challenging career and life that I enjoy instead of a life I’ve never wanted with having children, you figure I’M the one in the wrong? Fuck you. You’ve lost a fan. I am in no way a feminist but this is what’s wrong with our society. Men claim to know what’s best for us women even though they have absolutely ZERO context. Congratulations Gavin on being a happily married family man. Stop imposing your shitty views on the rest of us who also happily live our lives, even though it may be in a different way than you chose to. Seriously disappointed. It\s great that you’re standing up for moms, but get it through your thick skull that women are not automated robots born only to conceive. Pull your head out of your ass and show women AS A WHOLE some respect.
commented 2015-05-26 16:41:23 -0400
Glenn Reid – all of the above. Are you a hatemonger or just a plain idiot?
commented 2015-05-22 00:30:45 -0400
TP, Carly its Gavin! To know him is to love him….
commented 2015-05-21 19:50:52 -0400
I am a stay-at-home mom who homeschools her children and works in our family business. I was interested in this topic, however I don’t appreciate the cussing. Not cool at all and no help at all to our cause.
commented 2015-05-21 16:25:25 -0400
You lost me at the swearing I’m not listening to the rest.
commented 2015-05-21 13:15:51 -0400
HA! Very funny, Gavin!
The way I see it, Gavin’s aim isn’t to convince but to provoke hard core feminista’s (like Joan), with the simple message that it’s good and noble thing to make a career of being a great mom and homemaker. It works every time. Feminist ideologues just hate it when a man dares even suggest such a thing. They’re so saturated in feminist ideology their heads explode. It’s fun to watch:) Sensible women agree with Gavin or at least don’t mind.
commented 2015-05-21 09:23:44 -0400
Joan I’ve noticed that you comment on just about every comment section…are you unemployed, retired, or have no life?
commented 2015-05-21 07:02:22 -0400
Chad, I’m going to assume (a) you’re a student, and (b) not at present preparing for a career in either Law or Statistics.
commented 2015-05-20 20:19:40 -0400
Chad, I tried to find some relevant statistics on divorce and suicide in Canada or North America from later than 2007 but could not. Here would be a good time to pull out your super secret statistics showing a 700+% increase in the suicide rate for divorced men since 2007. I’ll be waiting, and you should probably alert the health authorities as well. Such an increase would be unprecedented and of great public concern.

The “attempted edit” on your last post wasn’t an attempt at all—I clearly made and labelled the edit. It’s called an ellipsis, and its use in square brackets is specifically to denote that something has been removed. My use was a little tongue-in-cheek, but perfectly valid as the sentiment of your original statement remains. If you feel it defames your character or reputation, I can give you my lawyer’s contact information over a private channel. Just post your email here and I’ll get in touch with you.
commented 2015-05-20 17:46:27 -0400
Chad – promise this time?
commented 2015-05-20 16:58:59 -0400
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commented 2015-05-20 16:51:27 -0400
So I’m breaking my last comment to say this:

Ian, first off, what you posted by attempting to edit my previous post is considered Libel, just so you know. To take me that much out of context very much falls under that.

Ian, secondly, I said you needed to find statistics newer than 2011, you are using statistics that fall between 2000-2007, time for an update.

So if you need to use old statistics to support your claims, if you need to use out-of-context forms of defamation, then I will no longer respond to you.
commented 2015-05-20 16:41:34 -0400
Terry, on second thought, perhaps it is an extreme case of anal retentive control.
commented 2015-05-20 16:36:32 -0400
“Given the lack of basic statistics understanding […] I will not be commenting past this point.” The lack of understanding is only your own, Chad, so at least this statement is true.
commented 2015-05-20 16:33:30 -0400
Chad, do I need to further explain the math here, or is there some hidden math which will magically change an estimated 0.0425% suicide rate for divorced men into 30-40%? Please, include your citations.
commented 2015-05-20 16:28:15 -0400
Given the lack of basic statistics understanding, the constant ad hominem and defamation used by Terry and Joan, given they can’t argue worth much, and even required a third party to do their research for them, I will not be commenting past this point.
commented 2015-05-20 16:25:11 -0400
Ian, you forgot to look up the divorce rate. You can not apply a percentage I related to ONLY divorced men, to a GENERAL population statistic. You must find the values for ONLY Divorced men.
commented 2015-05-20 16:22:45 -0400
Aye, Ian, good job!
commented 2015-05-20 16:15:28 -0400
Ian, my hat is off to you for both your research and your interpretation of the data. My amused skepticism was based purely on a Fermi estimate; you did the homework. Kudos.
Chad, this would be an EXCELLENT time for you to devastate both Ian and I with that DEEPLY CONCEALED TOP SECRET DATA SOURCE you claim to have hidden out there.
commented 2015-05-20 16:03:28 -0400
Chad and Terry, here you go:

- Suicide rate for Canadian men: 17/100000 (0.017%) (
- “Divorced [North American] men were nearly 2.5 times more likely to die from suicide than married men” (

Assuming the suicide rate for married men is the same as for all men (it isn’t, it’s lower), then the suicide rate for divorced men is 2.5 * 0.017% = 0.0425%, which is a far, far cry from the 30-40% Chad upholds as truth but for which he fails to cite evidence. No doubt Chad will point out that his figure was for suicide attempts and not for successful suicides. I couldn’t find any figures for attempted suicide, but if we accept Chad’s rate as truth, then we can only conclude that divorced men who attempt suicidal are extraordinarily unsuccessful at offing themselves.

With respect to child support, Chad’s claim of “out of all divorces, 60% of men will be unable to properly pay child support” needs a definition of “properly”. “Properly” as in they failed to pay on time, or “properly” as in they failed to pay at all? A case could be made for 60% of men failing to pay on time, yet “nearly all payors (93%) indicated that they fully complied with the financial arrangements, making all required payments in the last 12 months. In comparison, 75% of financial support recipients indicated that they received the full amount.” ( So over a period of a year, 75-93% of (largely men, since men are the payors in a vast majority of divorces) properly paid child support, which is far from Chad’s 60% (again, figures for which he provides no citation).

As for the 60% of divorced men who Chad feels inevitably end up in jail, Canada’s Department of Justice lists many outcomes of failed payments at Jail time is considered only after fines have been issued, or passports or federal licenses are suspended.
commented 2015-05-20 15:17:41 -0400
Kevin Nestor – (-:
commented 2015-05-20 15:11:17 -0400
Meg Kidd: Thank you. People like you give me hope for this world.
Chad Kamea: Thanks for that video link about the real agenda of radical feminists. WOW!:
About those stats, they seemed a little unreal to me, even though the truth is often stranger than fiction, I’ve seen numbers cited by William Gairdner in several of his publications that seem fictional when contrasted with the ‘reality’ of the indoctrinated status quo…
commented 2015-05-20 14:15:33 -0400
holy crap i love this guy. you are truly a breath of fresh air my friend.
commented 2015-05-20 13:35:48 -0400
I love you Joan, and so does Chad.
commented 2015-05-20 13:33:12 -0400
Thank you Marjorie for bringing some civility, wisdom and enlightenment to this site. We tend to forget to look to our elders (I say this with respect) for their insights.
Women can assume multiple roles, but women have to realize they have to support women in all these roles and stop working against each other. There are too many games played using women as the pawns; women have to stand beside women for whatever role they assume voluntarily or involuntarily in life.
And wouldn’t it be nice if more men respected women enough they taught their sons to see women as something other than sexual objects or housewives (meaning their personal cook and house cleaner/maid – and many men do see women as only this) or if not applicable to them, they teach their sons how OTHER men see women instead of passively letting their sons learns by osmosis or from his buddies.
Gavin: Your passion was right, you just didn’t say it right. Don’t throw fuel on the fire when in the forest. There was no reason to say what you said and how you said it on Fox. This was not a rehearsed satire.
Terry: I agree about Chad’s assumption on the stats. Made me think (the knight thing) some men are knights in shining armour, but mostly it is women who come to the rescue of men! How many men have turned their lives around only by the help of a woman? Too many women and children dumped to fend for themselves and then subjected to comments like I’ve read on this post.
commented 2015-05-20 12:48:05 -0400
White Knight privilege – I love it!
commented 2015-05-20 12:45:58 -0400
Terry – I liken it to the image of the individual who builds a castle in the sky and then moves into it.

Perhaps “lie” is too harsh. Perhaps “delusion” is more appropriate.
commented 2015-05-20 12:35:02 -0400
Joan, I can understand how someone sustains a worldview on the basis of willful ignorance. But I don’t understand how someone can do it based on a lie. It simply makes no sense. Is it ego? Simple stubbornness? Terminal last-worditis?