April 17, 2015

Justin Trudeau events moved out of Catholic church halls by PEI bishop

Rebel Staff
 

Justin Trudeau has been effectively kicked out of two churches by no less that the bishop of Charlottetown.

The Liberal Party of P.E.I. had two events lined up this weekend, both in Charlottetown Catholic churches, and both featuring Justin Trudeau.

However, that was before the diocese sent a directive to the province's parishes, reminding them that partisan events aren't permitted in church halls.

Both events have since been relocated.

According to The Guardian:

Gerry Gabriel, a spokesman for the Diocese of Charlottetown, explained this is a diocese-wide policy that does not allow any political events hosted by only one political party. Multi-party events, such as a candidates’ forum are permitted.

This policy has been in place for the last four years, he said.

However, Catholic churches in P.E.I. had been allowing partisan political events in their church halls until recently.

For example, a Progressive Conservative MLA held his January 14 nomination meeting "at the same church hall in Stratford where one of Trudeau events was scheduled to be held."

Asked about this apparent double standard, Gabriel told The Guardian:

“When three or four years lapse, I guess people’s memories aren’t as clear as they should be. So the bishop, this morning, issued a re-statement of that directive to make sure that all pastors, all parishes are clear on the directive.”

Gabriel denies the sudden enforcement of this policy has anything to do with Trudeau’s pro-choice abortion stance.

He added that the diocese was more concerned about Catholic churches forfeiting their charitable status by hosting politically partisan events, citing recent Canada Revenue Agency audits into charities accused of participating in party politics.

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commented 2015-04-19 17:17:32 -0400
Terry, no indication either that their disapproval was not the reason they moved his event out.

What suggests it was is the timing which, granted, may be an illusion. It may be merely coincidental that the church held partisan Conservative events right up until Trudeau’s Liberal one with him as speaker. If so, the church is risking its charity status. Still, Liberals have grounds for suspicion.

The test of the theory will be stories about any churches that continue to hold Conservative events. Or any other partisan event.
commented 2015-04-19 15:48:34 -0400
Terry, keep on commenting, keep on digging. You claim that I “see nothing dishonest in the implication inherent in the title of this article”, like I should, like you obviously do. What we are talking about are these words: “Justin Trudeau events moved out of Catholic church halls by PEI bishop”. Shine as bright a light as you’ve got on that title Terry, still looking for that lie you insist is there. What magic powers do you have that shows a lie there that nobody else can see? How does this imaginary dishonesty lead to your vitriolic hatred of all things Ezra? Please, educate us poor fans of kool aid, lift the conservative blanket off of our indoctrinated heads! I can’t wait to see just how far, and how thin this straw you’re pulling on can get.
commented 2015-04-18 19:38:12 -0400
Adriana et al: the last thing I want to do is defend born-with-a-silver-spoon-in-the-mouth Trudeau, but, until he renounces his faith, he is indeed a Catholic, as decided by his parents 40+ years ago. That does not mean that he cannot have opinions contrary to the “club” to which he belongs. Regardless of his religion or lack of, church halls should not rent themselves out for political gatherings, at all, regardless of how much they need the rent money. Church and State must be kept separate if we hope to move forward.
commented 2015-04-18 09:50:44 -0400
An intelligent and logical approach to ongoing fascist government threats to de-certify charitble status for churches in Canada.
commented 2015-04-18 09:23:54 -0400
@ Peter: Sorry you felt insulted.
@joan: "surely you do not suggest the chuch endorses Trudeau’s pro-abortion stance? " Correct. I do not. I also see no indication in the story that the Church’s disapproval was the basis of their decision.
commented 2015-04-18 00:06:31 -0400
The Catholic Diocese is against turd-do cuz of his pro-choice stance…
Maybe it’s cuz of his intelligence???
Or maybe it’s cuz his nice (lol) hair
No question…
And there’s NOTHING wrong with that…
commented 2015-04-17 22:20:03 -0400
Cudos to the Bishop. Bishop takes Queens pawn. Check.
commented 2015-04-17 21:07:11 -0400
But Terry, surely you do not suggest the chuch endorses Trudeau’s pro-abortion stance?

My reading of this story is that the bishop did not deny that Trudeau’s pro-abortion policy is why the directive was issued, especially at this time, but rather avoided the question rather deftly.

Trying to pin down church administration on its partisan views was a nice try, but surely not one anyone expected the church to accommodate.
commented 2015-04-17 19:37:05 -0400
Terry, thank you for the insult. “. . . to readers whose KoolAid intake is a bit less intense.” My thinking is quite clear, thank you, and I would be interested is discussing with you how you think I am "drinking too much of the “KoolAid” to think clearly. I do not think you have any superior ability to differentiate one political view from another than I.
commented 2015-04-17 19:36:49 -0400
E. Sholter Justin, Your father left our country in a hell of a mess. Please disappear.
commented 2015-04-17 18:12:57 -0400
Token and Peter: you both indicate that you see nothing dishonest in the implication inherent in the title of this article, or in the gratuitous suggestion that application of a church policy is a Catholic rebuke of Justin Trudeau. Nor, frankly, would I expect you to. I’m pointing it out (with a smile, of course) to readers whose KoolAid intake is a bit less intense.
commented 2015-04-17 18:10:57 -0400
ATOKENCONSERVATIVE;
I assume there are no REPLY options for individual posters here, in order to dissuade it I guess…
I’m glad you mentioned Mr. Rudden though. When he first appeared on SNN as a liberal commenter, he seemed to offer a fairly coherent, intelligent and civil opposition to conservative ideas – for a liberal. That’s not the case anymore and you are correct to mention it.
The reason I mention it is because this very morning I was thinking about how free THEREBEL is from all those nasty lefty/liberal trolls SNN was infested with back before the CRTC murdered it. I was rather enjoying the respite from all that ugly, hateful delusion spewed by the lefty/liberal troll almost as much as I am enjoying the intelligent, informed and valuable repartee found here, and on the ole SNN.
I’m still against ‘BLOCKING’ people…mostly. Know your enemy…
commented 2015-04-17 17:46:59 -0400
I remember how the lefty/liberals gloated long and hard when SNN was murdered by the CRTC, so I’ll try and restrain myself and just say, ‘It looks good on ya Justin.’ Maybe I’ll just throw in a Nelson Muntz, “Ha Ha.”
No matter the explanation…a message has been sent.
There are consequences for your choices…and good people are standing up and saying NO MORE!
commented 2015-04-17 17:39:05 -0400
Terry, I’m kinda on Daniel’s side of this. You do seem to like grabbing at any thin straw you can find to discredit Ezra, and yet you’re still on this site. It’s certainly within any reporter’s scope of the job to ask that particular question of the diocese, considering this is a Roman Catholic position and Trudeau has famously come out as pro-choice. It would be remiss of any reporter from any network to not ask, so I’m not suprised that it took someone from the Rebel to ask it. You label this as “not journalism”, call it “creative writing”, and go on to imply that it’s better than lying about it. Your second post uses the word “dishonest”, implying the lie, and calls the whole thing “specious drivel”. Was there a lie, anywhere in the story Terry? Please identify it, or stop hinting that Rebel reporters lie, or would lie, under any circumstances. If they’re lying, then out them. If not, STFU! Your red herring tactics are pretty transparent. Why not just go somewhere else Terry. I don’t think anyone here is interested in hearing your opinions anymore, as anyone with low level intelligence can probably predict them anyway.
commented 2015-04-17 16:22:59 -0400
Justin Trudeau is supposed to be a Roman Catholic. How can he as a RC believe in abortion.? The bishop was absolutely correct . Trudeau should also be denied receiving Holy Communion for the same reason. Trudeau is RC in name only obviously.
commented 2015-04-17 16:05:06 -0400
Terry Rudden –
My apologies for not being more clear about my question. I re-read my question and realized I could have asked it better. So here it goes again (maybe this time I will get it right).

How does the Rebel reporter asking that question constitute dishonesty?
commented 2015-04-17 14:39:23 -0400
Can we then assume we can kick this socialist Left wing abortion approving ninny out of the country.. I hear obama needs another sycophant !
commented 2015-04-17 12:45:12 -0400
The next step would be to kick the fool out of the province. What a total bumbling fool this child has turned out to be.
commented 2015-04-17 12:24:46 -0400
@peter Neterville: See last sentence of this excerpt:

“Asked about this apparent double standard, Gabriel told The Guardian: When three or four years lapse, I guess people’s memories aren’t as clear as they should be. So the bishop, this morning, issued a re-statement of that directive to make sure that all pastors, all parishes are clear on the directive.” Gabriel denies the sudden enforcement of this policy has anything to do with Trudeau’s pro-choice abortion stance.”
commented 2015-04-17 12:18:36 -0400
Thanks, Daniel. The substantive part of your response is the “but They Do I Too”, which is irrelevant. Thanks.
commented 2015-04-17 12:11:25 -0400
Terry Rudden – “I’m laughing at the “Rebel’s” transparent and dishonest attempt to link enforcement of a church policy with a Trudeau’s pro-choice stance.”

I must have missed where they link those two things. Could you point them out for me please?
commented 2015-04-17 11:57:34 -0400
@eileen McRae – Actually, Mosques ARE “venues for politeering.” Islam is not just a religion, it is also a legal system and form of government.
commented 2015-04-17 11:36:01 -0400
Oh no ! This is terrible, and it will reinforce his Mommy’s assertion that I saw on the CBC new banner the other day " Margaret Trudeau says attack ads against her son are bullying". What is the world coming to? The Boy Blunder is literally being shut out, I bet he will go to the SCOC to get prayers banned in that public establishment! Good for the Bishop ! Still chuckling at this turn of events!
commented 2015-04-17 11:19:38 -0400
there must be a mosque he could use……..
commented 2015-04-17 10:15:05 -0400
Politics and religion should not always go “hand-in-hand”. Mosques, churches, synagogues are places of worship, not venues for politeering.
commented 2015-04-17 10:06:13 -0400
I’m surprised anyone would even campaign in PEI as they are devoutly Liberal. Gail Shea is the only Conservative MP…one out of four.

Beautiful island with wonderful people and terrible political leanings.
commented 2015-04-17 09:27:09 -0400
@peter Neville: I agree with that, and that appears to be the rationale for the Church’s action. I’m laughing at the “Rebel’s” transparent and dishonest attempt to link enforcement of a church policy with a Trudeau’s pro-choice stance. God knows there’s enough to criticize in Trudeau’s policies without this kind of specious drivel.
commented 2015-04-17 09:10:13 -0400
No political events should be held in any place of worship. The complete separation of church and state is, to me, sacrosanct.
commented 2015-04-17 08:47:42 -0400
I don’t know why Trudeau feels he even needs to come to PEI for either the provincial or federal campaigns. Hatred of Harper runs deep here and besides ….even after the Liberals repeal the Magna Carta , re-instate Jus Prima Nocta and gang rape the bride AND groom on their wedding day they are still going to vote Liberal. Hell I know gun owners who are still going to vote for Wayne Easter….and after the Liberals are re-elected a wrathful Christian God is going to punish this island with six weeks of cold rain….makes me so disgusted to think about it….better go meditate and aspire to detachment….
commented 2015-04-17 08:19:55 -0400
Surely there is a mosque he can campaign from