July 08, 2015

"Marry out, get out": Trudeau, Mulcair too cowardly to condemn Mohawk racism

Marissa SemkiwRebel Commentator
 

At the Kahnawake Mohawk Indian reserve, it has effectively been illegal since 1981 for a Mohawk to date or marry a non-Mohawk spouse. It’s called "Marry out, get out." You have to get off the reserve, you’re effectively exiled.



Yesterday, attending the Assembly of First Nations conference in Montreal, Trudeau and Muclair were asked about Kahnawake’s blatant racism.

Asked twice, Mulcair refused to answer.

Of course, Trudeau wasn’t short for words -- but they didn't make much sense.

Real leadership requires the responsibility to take stand -- a stand against those, who like some in the Mohawk reserve of Kahnawake, stand unconfronted in the service of repugnant racism.


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commented 2015-07-10 09:03:47 -0400
No, Rick: yours.
I listed specific and verifiable trends in Conservative Aboriginal policy. You dismissed it as a wandering diatribe and retreated to the “poor taxpaying me” cliché. The choice to move from a real talk back into the Usenet style posturing that unfortunately characterized so much of the “discussion” on this site (and I which I unfortunately perpetuate sometimes myself) was, in this case, your decision.
commented 2015-07-09 21:07:59 -0400
Ah. We’ve moved out of the substantive exchange of views and into the clichés, have we?
Not interested.
commented 2015-07-09 18:54:30 -0400
Terry said: “There are arguments for and against each of these measures. But be very honest here: do they seem to you to share a common thread?” Your wandering diatribe which preceded that comment very elequently represents only one side of this issue, that being the “Indian Industry”, the current state of affairs and then expecting a resultant answer to confirm that? My expectations for any Gov’t is to debate on behalf for ALL Canadians. Equally I expect the other side to debate in good faith, and not with any pre-conceived notions, acrimony or vested interests.

My apologies for the late response but there simply was not enough time this morning. I had to go to my employment of which I pay 45% of my income to support the CBC, Unaccountable spending on the part of the “Indian Industry” and deadbeat “have not” provinces among other things.
commented 2015-07-09 10:23:45 -0400
This culture is ridiculous. Equality? Freedom? Racism? Political correctness abounds and foolish people just “go along to get along”
Why is our culure paying to support a racist, entitled culture holding their own population as slaves? The politically correct majority will eventually fall to the motivated freedom wanting minority in revolution. Won’t be the first time history repeats itself…and yet the majority can not learn the lesson. Ironic.
commented 2015-07-09 08:28:16 -0400
Rick, the current government has been active in a number of areas that advance its Aboriginal agenda. That is, of course, what governments do. However, elements of that agenda include the limitation of the scope and scale of Aboriginal governments to powers, functions, and authorities comparable to those of municipalities; elimination in the major development process of the Duty to Consult, the requirement for Impact Benefit Agreements, the loosening of environmental and remediation standards; and the transfer of lands in trust to fee simple ownership. There are arguments for and against each of these measures. But be very honest here: do they seem to you to share a common thread?
commented 2015-07-09 07:50:47 -0400
Peter Toth:
“In case you missed it, not one Conservative attended this gathering, and they were vilified by the MSM for doing so.”
No, I didn’t miss that. They were invited, and they declined. Normally the Minister of Indian Affairs would attend.
“Mulciar and Trudeau did attend, and in attending, they attempted to lend credibility to not just this gathering, but to all the policies and actions of this group.”
Yes, they attended the Assembly of First Nations, the largest national Aboriginal organization.
" You say the Conservatives have done nothing."
I said no such thing.
“They are the only ones who disavowed the actions of these racists by refusing to attend and give them the credibility they seek.”
I think you are a bit ignorant about the nature, powers, functions and authorities of the AFN, and of its relationship with Kahnawake.
“Your attempt to insulate and explain away the actions of Mulcair and Trudeau, is transparent and disgusting. Shame on you!”
You’re not reading very well, are you?
commented 2015-07-08 23:51:18 -0400
Time to take care of all the loose ends, and start working towards no Indian Act.
commented 2015-07-08 23:41:41 -0400
Terry Rudden. In case you missed it, not one Conservative attended this gathering, and they were vilified by the MSM for doing so. Mulciar and Trudeau did attend, and in attending, they attempted to lend credibility to not just this gathering, but to all the policies and actions of this group. You say the Conservatives have done nothing, when in fact they are the only ones who disavowed the actions of these racists by refusing to attend and give them the credibility they seek. Your attempt to insulate and explain away the actions of Mulcair and Trudeau, is transparent and disgusting. Shame on you!
commented 2015-07-08 23:22:23 -0400
Terry Rudden said: “It grieves me, and it angers me, to see the Rebel turn a significant issue into a cheap and childish slap at Trudeau and Mulcair, while letting Harper (who HAS been silent on this issue for the entire duration of his term) off the hook.” As Peter has pointed out, the current Gov’t has been active on some issues which tragically, have been vigorously and selfishly opposed by anyone connected to the “Indian Industry”. Had Harper or anyone in his Gov’t took direct action on this Mohawk issue, one can only imagine the howls of outrage from vested interest groups, the Socialist Media etc etc, proclaiming (as they do now) that Harper is picking on the aboriginals! I believe it is a no win situation. One side or the other is going to come off looking bad and be pissed about it! I agree it is a significant issue. Anytime racism is involved.
commented 2015-07-08 22:19:13 -0400
Actually, I mean more for the natives of Canada.
commented 2015-07-08 22:18:31 -0400
Terry, Harper has done more for Canada than any previous Liberal government.
commented 2015-07-08 22:15:31 -0400
Ian is right. Politicians of all stripes have been gutless on this issue. Why is the government still funding the AFN? Let them pay for their own advocacy.
commented 2015-07-08 21:59:23 -0400
Rick, there are several very, very interesting and important questions (in my opinion) raised by “marry out, get out” position, some of which reflect very badly on its adherents in Kahnawake, some of which are consequences of various iterations of the Indian Act on dilution of status.
It grieves me, and it angers me, to see the Rebel turn a significant issue into a cheap and childish slap at Trudeau and Mulcair, while letting Harper (who HAS been silent on this issue for the entire duration of his term) off the hook.
Y’all LOVES you that KoolAid to death, don’t y’all?
commented 2015-07-08 19:39:21 -0400
Dale said: “It will likely be a Conservative Govt one day that eliminates the racist Indian Act and frees the surfs . . . by a program of giving each family unit a piece of property and a cheque . . . allowing them to OWN their FUTURE” Careful Dale. You will have Terry Rudden ragging on you with the “A” word. Assimilation!
commented 2015-07-08 19:32:28 -0400
Racial cleansing is racial cleansing no matter the perpetrator or the reason. Inexcusable that both Tommie the Commie and Trudope have effectively condoned the practice by dancing around the issue!
commented 2015-07-08 17:32:19 -0400
In Canada and other socialist western countries you can only be racist if you are white.

All other cultures, and colours are able to claim victim status and are given a complete “by” from the media and other politically correct special interest groups.

It has been this way for years and will only get worse.
commented 2015-07-08 17:24:28 -0400
As I understand it, these two Jokers were together, visiting the Reservation. If I am right, I think that this is a very ominous sign. I smell sweaty bodies in bed together. LibDems or DemLibs? Dem idiots.
commented 2015-07-08 17:02:00 -0400
Canada is vilified world wide because of our Indian Act, but many,most? natives don’t want to see it go. They want the money stream it provides but with less interference. The Act allows all sorts of racism to exist and indeed flourish. With more than 600 bands across the country, some holding onto it tightly others wanting it abolished, how is it ever to be settled?

Harper met with Bellgarde in June, Bellgarde wanted more money for education,( with no rules applying, which is why Atleo left and how Bellgarde got in in the first place), as well as pushing for spending on the inquiry for murdered Aboriginal women. We all know Harper isn’t into either request. Reasons he feels are valid and fair.

It looks like this years meeting in Montreal is all about collectively voting Harper out, which is why Mulcair and Trudeau are in there, making all sorts of promises. I don’t know why Harper isn’t in Montreal, except that he has already met with Bellgarde recently on the issues, is clear on the agenda of this years meetings, and yesterday, was in Calgary meeting with Notely and doing what he does every year at this time, going to Stampede. Maybe Harper wasn’t invited?
commented 2015-07-08 16:56:10 -0400
“…and ill treatment of First Nations isn’t purely a Liberal or Conservative issue.”
That’s true, IAN STEPHENS. In many cases the ill treatment of First Nations is also a Chief/Band Council governance issue.
commented 2015-07-08 16:09:36 -0400
Dale, I’m not trying to lay blame here—every government has been culpable. Let’s look at your claim, though. You’re likely aware the Indian Act was introduced at Canada’s founding by John A. MacDonald’s Liberal-Conservatives, which later became the Conservative Party of Canada. Conservative governments dominated the next 30 years, with no repeal of the Act. Here are two interesting amendments by Conservative governments (1885: outlaw potlatches, 1920: mandatory enrolment in residential schools). Specific to the notion that women who marry non-status individuals lose their status, that was introduced in 1951 by St. Laurent’s Liberal government and overturned in1985 by Mulroney’s Conservatives.

My point is that all governments have been at fault, and ill treatment of First Nations isn’t purely a Liberal or Conservative issue. The above amendments were introduced by conservative governments, but maintained under Liberal governments. No political party can say they are a better friend of the First Nations as they’ve all upheld the Indian Act and introduced both harmful and beneficial amendments.
commented 2015-07-08 14:46:58 -0400
IAN . . . where do you read that?
Every time a Conservative govt mentions eliminating or changing the racist indian act . . . the left goes NUTS ! ! !
Most governments in the last 140 years have been Lieberals . . .

It was Harper that forced the thieving Chiefs to open their books . . . it was the insane left that protested !

It will likely be a Conservative Govt one day that eliminates the racist Indian Act and frees the surfs . . . by a program of giving each family unit a piece of property and a cheque . . . allowing them to OWN their FUTURE . . .
commented 2015-07-08 14:31:55 -0400
Leave them alone, plain and simple get out of the lives of all aboriginals in Canada. Let them govern themselves, cut them off, that’s what they want, don’t they? Every time governments get involved it’s a cluster muck so just leave them alone.
commented 2015-07-08 14:14:51 -0400
Dale and Vlad, are you saying that in the history of Canada every conservative government has treated Native Canadians splendidly, only to have them treated like shit by the successive Liberal government? All Canadian governments have had a part in maintaining the relationship—such as it is—between Canada and its native peoples—Liberal, PC, and Conservative alike.
commented 2015-07-08 14:07:20 -0400
no different than quebec, japan, and most of the countries of the middle east
commented 2015-07-08 14:01:49 -0400
Jamie — often, that is indeed the case, yes. (As told to me by Natives who left the reserves.)
commented 2015-07-08 13:53:07 -0400
“If you’re Greek and you want to be industrious and clever, you leave Greece”
So…
“If you’re an Indian and you want to be industrious and clever, you leave the Reserve”??
commented 2015-07-08 13:34:37 -0400
What Marissa’s article fails to note is that Harper avoided the issue by not attending the AFN meeting at all. Neither did the Minister of Indian Affairs.
commented 2015-07-08 13:33:27 -0400
If there’s a federal politician anywhere in Canada who has the guts to call this what it is, please point him/her out.