April 15, 2015

Spring Break, rape -- and why it sucks not being a liberal

Gavin McInnesRebel Commentator
 

I don't know what I am. I guess I'm a libertarian who's against immigration. But I know I'm not a liberal.

(NOTE: MATURE LANGUAGE AND SUBJECT MATTER):

And -- that sucks.

Not being a liberal is uncool.

None of the pretty girls or comedians are on your side.

Sure, being right in the end means you get to say "I told you so" -- but it's not very satisfying, believe me.

That's what happened when I tried to warn people about how dangerous Spring Break has become for girls.

I got laughed at.

Then a girl was gang raped on the beach, and it was caught on tape...

 

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commented 2015-04-20 18:54:18 -0400
What about rape being about one’s failure to control themselves? lots of statistics and crosstalk without even mentioning that… promoting self-discipline and situational awareness in both boys and girls in school before and after puberty is the key! Again, I say look to Japan. They are decades ahead of us here as well.
commented 2015-04-18 02:14:48 -0400
Just watched you on Fox Gavin, and I agree, this spring break thing is not to be put into the same pot as the college rape culture . It is a different thing . One being mostly non- existent and sometimes fabricated, and the other happening with people watching on public beaches .
commented 2015-04-16 16:16:00 -0400
Tom – No, rape victim. Got better, helped other rape victims do the same, know how the whole thing works.
commented 2015-04-16 16:05:15 -0400
Chad I’m far from a bleeding heart.
commented 2015-04-16 16:02:48 -0400
Chad thou doeth protest too much. Guilty conscience?
commented 2015-04-16 15:46:39 -0400
“Sexual assault…it’s not about lust and desire, it’s a violent crime of POWER, CONTROL and DOMINANCE

is such a severely limited scope of what rape actually is, just so people are aware, rape HAS been committed under lust and desire, and isn’t always as “violent” (though no less rape) as everyone always makes it out to be.

You want to be a bleeding heart instead of actually trying to solve the issue, that’s fine, but then let the rest of us actually try to stop rape, by acknowledging and reducing its factors.
commented 2015-04-16 15:28:24 -0400
So does no one understand the existence of factors, potentials, cause and effect, result, and prevention?

I never said “You must wear this! or you will get raped!”, I said that what you wear is a contributing FACTOR, one of MANY FACTORS, and if you commit to enough prevention on other FACTORS, then yeah, you can more easily wear what you want. NEVER SAID YOU COULDN’T WEAR CERTAIN CLOTHING, though you should consider age-appropriateness of the clothing as well, as the only real thing of me saying by way of opinion that you should dress, at least your kids without sexualizing them through adult styled, attractive or provocative clothing.
commented 2015-04-16 15:27:37 -0400
Chad
Rape Statistics
Sexual assault…it’s not about lust and desire, it’s a violent crime of POWER, CONTROL and DOMINANCE
Every 45 seconds someone in the United States is sexually assaulted (1).
1 out of every 7 women currently in college has been raped (2), however, 9 out of 10 women raped on campus never tell anyone about the rape (3).
1 in 10 men is raped in his lifetime (4), 1 in 7 of those victims will have been assaulted before the age of 18.
More than 61.5% of rapes are never reported to law enforcement (5).
Approximately 28% of rape victims are raped by their husbands, 35% by an acquaintance, and 17% by a relative other than spouse (6).
74% of sexual assaults are perpetrated by assailants well known to the victim (7).
A female child victim is 7 times more likely to be re-victimized as an adult (8).
Nearly 6 out of 10 sexual assaults occur at the victim’s home or the home of a friend, relative, or neighbor (9).
1 in 15 rape victims contract a sexually transmitted disease (STD) as a result of being raped (10).
1 in 15 rape victims become pregnant as a result of being raped (11).
The United States has the world’s highest rape rate of all countries that publish such data- 13 times higher than England and more than 20 times higher than Japan (12).
An American woman is 10 times more likely to be raped than to die in a car crash (13).
61% of rape victims are females under the age of 18 (14).
Contrary to common belief that violent crime rates are notably lower in rural areas, a recent analysis of location data collected for the 1999 National Women’s Study found that 10.1% of women living in rural areas had experienced a completed rape as compared to 13.6% of women living in urban and suburban communities—hardly a notably lower rate.

Lewis, S. 2003. Unspoken Crimes: Sexual Assault in Rural America, Enola, PA: National Sexual Violence Resource Center

References:

U.S. Department of Justice, 1994
Statistics on Sexual Violence Against Women, 1990; Woodruff & Koss
Rape Treatment Center of Santa Monica Longitudinal Study, 1995
Indiana Coalition Against Domestic Violence, 2002 & The American Medical Association, 2000
Indiana Coalition Against Sexual Assault, 2002
U.S. Department of Justice, 1994
U.S. Department of Justice, 1994
Indiana Coalition Against Sexual Assault, 2002
National Crime Victimization Survey, 1996
Statistics on Sexual Violence Against Women: A Criminological Study, 1990
Ibid. #10 Senate Judiciary Committee, 1990
Ibid. #12 American Medical Association, 2000
For additional information please see: Crisis Connection Statistics Indiana Sex & Violent Offender Registry 2007 Indiana Sexual Violence Legislation Date Rape Drugs ALCOHOL Porn, Meth & Violence Truth About Rape How do you Legally Define Rape and Sexual Assault? College Campuses and Rape Indiana Statutes of Limitations: Sex Crimes What is Stalking? Are you Being Stalked? Internet Safety Cell Phone Harassment RAINN National Center for Injury Prevention and Control U.S. Department of Justice ● Office of Justice Programs ● Bureau of Justice Statistics The Sexual Victimization of College Women PANdora’s Box Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) NCADV Sexual Assault Fact Sheet College Campuses and Rape Making a Difference…One Life at a Time Speakers Available

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commented 2015-04-16 15:22:14 -0400
Tom – it is not about control, but can be used as a TOOL to control, you need to start understanding that difference, otherwise, you end up fighting against the wrong thing. Are you fighting control or rape? They are not the same thing.
commented 2015-04-16 15:19:42 -0400
Chad yes rape is about committing sexual acts against a woman . But the act of rape is not about sec to the perpetrator. This is a well known fact . It us about control which results in an unwanted sexual act. I guess you can’t understand the difference. In other words has nothing to do with what she wears. She doesn’t bring it on herself.
commented 2015-04-16 15:10:44 -0400
Tom – And if you re-read your statement carefully, it sounds more like Bernardo committed rape and murder as a RSULT of LOST CONTROL, and not of control, or even using it as a means for control.
commented 2015-04-16 14:56:54 -0400
Tom -

Rape:
(noun)
1. unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the victim.

I see references to “sex” in there at least twice.
commented 2015-04-16 14:53:23 -0400
Chad rape isn’t about sex. It is about control. Bernardo had all the sex he wanted but he still raped and killed.
commented 2015-04-16 14:49:43 -0400
Peter – I will agree to no more arguing on the conditions that Joan acknowledges the difference between “illness” and “problems” as it relates to mental health, and acknowledges and observes the contents of the dictionary.

By such acknowledgement, she would then invalidate my belief in her potential mental problems, which makes retraction easy, and more or less done by default.

As for claiming her a potential feminist, she would have to disprove that on her own. and I will ignore the fact that she tried to put the words “deserving rape” into my mouth.
commented 2015-04-16 14:40:18 -0400
JOAN! CHAD! Am I going to have to come over there and separate you too? :)

Now, both of you go sit in the corner and no more arguing!
commented 2015-04-16 14:24:04 -0400
Tom – As for how you feel, so do the majority of men, myself included.

BUT, everyone keeps forgetting that rapists exist! Which you all seem to acknowledge, and then deny, using statements like that. You try to distance relationships between actions and consequences within their limited scopes. You get attracted to that woman, but that doesn’t always mean you pursue her, but for a potential rapist, she’s a target, especially if she shows him any insecurities at the same time.

From the beginning, I have more or less stated that there are various factors that trigger varying types of rapists, and Joan has sat there and denied the existence of such factors, and denied the fact that everyone should keep these factors in mind, and try to minimize their risks for self-safety.

And then she tried to connect me to Islamism and Misogyny, which if I really want to, I can prove that I am neither, including a picture I took of myself and Ezra Levant at the Calgary for Israel rally. And then she denies the difference in definitions between words when used in context, or deny their definitions outright, and she didn’t like that I pointed out how short-sighted and ignorant she was being, which frankly is not my fault.
commented 2015-04-16 14:08:45 -0400
I have seen this same behaviour at frat houses in Universities. Made me sick!
commented 2015-04-16 14:06:23 -0400
Nice short Gavin. Hannity is priceless. Jon Stewart is not remotely funny. He makes me sick and always hast. Thankfully he is gone.
commented 2015-04-16 14:03:56 -0400
Chad I agree with Joan, your comments are ridiculous control your urges. I love sexily dressed women and NO urge to rape them.
commented 2015-04-16 13:09:28 -0400
Joan – This: “Now I’m one of those feminists deserving rape.” is libel. I did not say you deserved rape in any fashion.

Dictionary definitions are NOT irrelevant to what you say, for it is the definitions of those words that put what you say into their context.

You are using such statements to escape responsibility for any irresponsibility you display, past, present or future, and to escape making up for your own inadequacies in presenting your arguments.
commented 2015-04-16 12:55:25 -0400
Chad, yet another ad hom. Now I’m one of those feminists deserving rape.

I can’t “make” you do anything. Just like how I dress can’t “make” you or any other person rape.

Suit yourself, if you want to cite dictionary definitions irrelevat to what I’ve actually said, go ahead.

I enjoy a little banter. But you can’t win. Not in any real world.

Rapists will rape a dog, a cat, a goat for the same reason they rape a fully- or scantily-clothed woman. Because he gets hard from using force. Because he likes to hurt and humiliate. Because he has tremendous disdain for his victim.

No child ever deserves rape, even if fully naked in an abandoned warehouse. Children whose parents dress them in snowsuits get raped. Think it through. Dress does not provoke rape.

Go eat. I’m outta here. For now … Cheers!
commented 2015-04-16 12:45:00 -0400
Joan – are you seriously going to make me go through every major word in our discussion and print you their definitions? Are you seriously going to make me do that? Please don’t, and do so yourself, and from a dictionary, not a feminist blog.
commented 2015-04-16 12:43:14 -0400
Sorry, that should read “Go eat”. Freudian slip, I guess, from that story about the mullah who says muslims can eat their wives, but only if really, really hungry. And just a foot or hand at a time.

You know, those chaste, submissive, fully clothed women who never provoke abuses like rape.
commented 2015-04-16 12:39:57 -0400
Chad – I am not wrong and what you have stated is opinion not fact.

It is not a fact that dressing in niqab and burqa reduces a woman’s chance of being raped. All it does, at best, is hide the evidence. You know full well what happens to women who are raped in burqas. It’s the same thing as happens to lesbians whom men rape. Lesbians who dress in men’s clothing are just as likely or more so to be raped than are women who dress to attract men.

Because rape is not a sex act. It is a power abuse. Rapists get hard from using force. Men who love women get soft at the very idea of using force on any woman, naked or fully clothed.

Ho eat, Chad. Maybe it will restore your reason. (-: I am going out.

Gee, Gavin, this is fun, eh?
commented 2015-04-16 12:27:29 -0400
Gods, this woman is making me feel like a bully, when I’m simply stating facts, and legitimately countering her examinations and statements. Someone else take over for a while, I haven’t eaten yet today.
commented 2015-04-16 12:24:59 -0400
Joan – I said the way you dress changes your chances of getting raped, I didn’t blame women for getting raped because they dress a certain way, please re-examine your statement.
commented 2015-04-16 12:21:54 -0400
Chad – blaming women’s dress for rape is a misogynist idea widely held by Islamists. Admit it.
commented 2015-04-16 12:19:41 -0400
Joan – I lost? Are you for real? You just denied the definition of Misogyny!

I lost? Time for some introspection on your part Joan.
commented 2015-04-16 12:17:33 -0400
Chad – so now I am crazy, useless and stupid.

Boy, are you ever a sore loser!!
commented 2015-04-16 12:15:25 -0400
Chad, Chad, Chad … listen. I did not call you misogynist. I said your belief women are to blame for rape because of how we dress is misogynist. Do you not see the difference?

It is you who falsely accuses me.