June 07, 2016

“Tesla would be out of business in a month without government intervention”

Ezra LevantRebel Commander
 

There's no way Norway is actually going to ban normal cars in favour of electric ones by 2025. The electric automobile industry only exists thanks to state subsidies.

Elon Musk's Tesla Motors is probably the most heavily subsidized company in America. Only the very wealthy can afford his expensive, inefficient cars.

His tweet cheering on Norway's announcement was just another example of virtue signaling.

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commented 2016-06-08 14:21:02 -0400
Again the reason why so called alternative fuels need government assistance is they are not viable. Seriously, our policy makers need to refresh on economics 101. Solar is such a freaking joke. Great for running a calculator or a single lamp stand. That is about it. Wind is intermittent and will never add more than a smidgen to the grid. Ethanol is less efficient and dirtier than oil. Perhaps there is something in geothermal and tidal power, but we are not there yet.
commented 2016-06-08 04:21:01 -0400
Go green? lol.

Solar : Not viable here in our climate. That should be obvious. Other parts of the world, yes. Not Canada.

Wind : Too soon. More research on reliable and cheaper methods are needed.

The ‘intuitive’ (lol) green crew also seems to forget about :

Nuclear : Hell of a way to dispose of nuclear warheads, and DPU can be placed right back in the mine it was taken out of. Far better and reliable than almost any other energy source we have to date. Funny how this was quickly forgotten about.

Geo-thermal : It really irritates me when people on the green side cannot even explain why they are not backing this or even when they have no idea what this is. Using this method has a lot of potential, but no one seems to care on either side of the issue here.

Those two bottom points are our solutions. The fact no one is discussing them combined with the collective ignorance and apparent sabotage of our energy sector tells me something is up here. Why are the poorest choices being favoured over the better ones, and why is technology not being advanced properly.
commented 2016-06-08 02:14:07 -0400
How nice. Capitalists have disguised themselves as leftists in order to rake in tax dollars.
commented 2016-06-08 01:55:51 -0400
Hey green kooks, if you want an electric car then go buy one, keep your nose out of my life.
commented 2016-06-08 01:54:31 -0400
Betina there is far more oil and gas than minerals to make batteries.
commented 2016-06-07 20:56:33 -0400
I guess all you greenies live in caves dug by yourselves with a stick you broke off a tree.No computers,teleivision,phone,synthetic clothing. Your food is self caught. Killed with a rock or something similar.. Catch my drift here?.. If everyone drove a tesla, we would need a HUGE network of charging stations because we would be driving like stage coaches..every 200 miles we would be stopping to charge the coaches.And what are those charging stations built with, fossil fuel. You and hundreds of other drivers waiting for that half hour of charging.. So hours of waiting and the attendant fist fights that go with frustrated humans.. I could go on for ever with this line. But I think you may actually get the point. Throw in the winter in the north with cold.. I don’t get you all.
commented 2016-06-07 20:08:56 -0400
“There is enough oil and gas around that we will NEVER run out .”

What have you been smoking?
commented 2016-06-07 18:37:27 -0400
A couple things to keep in mind :
1. There is enough oil and gas around that we will NEVER run out . We will eventually find ways to power many of life’s necessities alternatively but that is a long way off. If you think oil and gas is going to go the way of the dodo bird , think again. There are 20,000 wells capped in the MacKenzie Valley waiting for a pipeline that never came thanks to the Berger Commission. Your grandchildren will have grey hair before we ever run out of oil and gas.
2. There are 50,000 flights a day around the world ,both big and small planes. A Boeing 737 takes around 40,000L for a long haul trip . How are you going to replace that ? Gliders ?
There are a thousand ocean going freighters plying the globe bringing you your WalMart Chinese crap and your ethically grown coffee beans. What are you going to replace that diesel with – sails ?
There is 1 million transport trucks on North American roads bringing and sending goods all over the country. How big an electric truck do you need to haul a flatbed of steel I-beams across the country ?
There is far too much green Kool-Aid being drank these days, it’s clouding people’s minds.
commented 2016-06-07 17:11:35 -0400
Those of of you who believe we should still be using fossil fuels are fossils yourselves.

I would suggest that you get outside tonight. It’s lovely out.
commented 2016-06-07 17:11:35 -0400
Those of of you who believe we should still be using fossil fuels are fossils yourselves.

I would suggest that you get outside tonight. It’s lovely out.
commented 2016-06-07 17:09:05 -0400
Hey Keith, how’s it going?
commented 2016-06-07 17:08:29 -0400
Yip, you people are actually quite out of touch with reality.
commented 2016-06-07 16:40:23 -0400
Tesla will be one of the least expected bankruptcies in the next few years.
commented 2016-06-07 15:20:52 -0400
It sure sounds like Ezra is living in the last decade:
“Elon Musk’s Tesla Motors is probably the most heavily subsidized company in America. Only the very wealthy can afford his expensive, inefficient cars.”

Fact: Tesla received $380 million over two years in Dept. of Energy loans. And then paid them back the money the next year in full and with interest— 9 years ahead of schedule. GM, Ford and Chrysler received $25 billion in direct subsidies in 2009 — Tesla received nothing.
Fact: Using electric energy, even from coal powered plants, is about twice as efficient as using gasoline as a fuel.
Fact: Sports cars and luxury cars are expensive, and Tesla has made 110,000 of these cars as of May 2016. They now have the capacity to build 500,000 cars a year at a US$35,000 each in 2018. Nobody would call that expensive.
commented 2016-06-07 13:03:07 -0400
Without Tesla, you also have
- Chevy Volt
- Nissan Leaf
- Ford’s electric Focus
The electric Smart Fourtwo pictured,
plus several next generation hybrids which are capable of operations similar to the Volt, capable of plug in electric capability and only using the engine for range extension when needed.

I suspect the world will change far raster than any of the fossil fuel advocates imagine. They remind me of buggy whip makers circa 1905. The car is a passing fad, they claimed, a hobby for the bored and wealthy (hmm… just like Tesla). How did that work out for them? A couple years later, the disruptive Model T came out, and 20 years later, their industry was all but gone.
commented 2016-06-07 12:22:47 -0400
There are enough fossil fuel reserves in the ground to last us for well over a hundred years, so they can take their time in discovering realistic alternatives, ones that would actually work, feasibly.
commented 2016-06-07 11:35:44 -0400
My money is on fossil by 2025.