May 10, 2016

“The Presidential election in November will between two Democrats”

John InglisRebel Blogger
 

The presidential race in November will apparently be between two Democrats. Reason.com wondered which winning candidate would bankrupt the nation sooner, Trump or Hillary. But to coin a phrase, “What difference, at this point, does it make?”

I've long held that unless a conservative was elected president of the United States this year, then America would be finished.

And if that conservative was not going to enforce immigration law, it was still all over, in the same way that the bankruptcy question above was merely a matter of dates rather than outcomes.

During the primaries, the battle between the conservatives was basically between Rubio and Cruz. Rubio was the amnesty guy, the one who would in the course of several years give all illegal immigrants citizenship. That would give the Democrats around 30 million new votes, and a perpetual lock on power within the US federal government.

Cruz would have enforced the immigration laws, and there would be a hell of a battle over the direction of the country. I believe Cruz would fight such a battle, which is more than I could say for the rest of the Republicans. I also believe he would win that battle, in the same way Reagan won: By reviving the American economy and becoming popular for that -- popular enough to be re-elected, and accrue political capital to expend elsewhere.

With the Democrats, I do not really see any difference in outcome.

Clinton would grant amnesty. So would Trump, as anyone knows who has been following the election closely. His NYT interview, which he refuses to allow to be released, is rumoured to include his confession that he wouldn't keep his vaunted promises on immigration.

Before he campaigned for the nomination, Trump supported amnesty, and I don't believe his position has changed.

As a result, America would go bankrupt, and no matter who the president happened to be, the Democrats would take full advantage of the situation.

Just as they did following the sub-prime mortgage crisis of 2008, the Democrats would blame “corporate greed,” and demand to be allowed to “do something." And since the way markets operate is counter-intuitive to those with no education in even basic economic principles, they will win that argument.

But it won’t stop there. Since Theodore Roosevelt, progressives and liberals have despised the US Constitution because it placed reins on their utopian schemes. Reagan spoke of this attitude in his famous 1964 speech “A Time for Choosing."

Democrats will therefore campaign to create a new constitution. The profound demographic shift created by amnesty, and the already apparent lack of patriotism even within the ranks of Republicans, means they will likely succeed. In which case, expect across-the-board persecutions of the Left's enemies: the religious, the libertarians, the conservatives, any group which today or in the future is saddled with the suffix “-phobe,” and other "dissident" groups.

The Democrats' victory will be total, and because of the totalitarian nature of the left, likely everlasting because without freedom of speech, there would be no way to spread the message of freedom, ordered or otherwise.

Conservatives and others who oppose this movement could react in one of two ways: submission or civil war.

Given the lack of principle and the fatalistic attitude common among modern conservatives, my money is on the first. An alliance of cowardly academics and welfare dependents would doom the Left to failure should the second option prevail.

And even should the Right win such a war, these are not the Americans of the Valley Forge and Bunker Hill. The America that emerged would be a wasteland of egotism and pure individualism.

See? It is all over.

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commented 2016-05-11 10:17:09 -0400
Sorry “Guccifer”.
commented 2016-05-11 10:14:18 -0400
The Russians claim to have 20,000 of Hillary’s emails which they claim to have hacked from Mael Lehel or “Lucifer” who in turn hacked them from Hillary’s server. Also the State Department is missing 5,000 emails with respect to Hillary’s IT guy. Hmmm……
commented 2016-05-11 04:00:49 -0400
Hillary will look good in an orange pant suit don’t you think?
commented 2016-05-11 03:58:37 -0400
The news gets worse for Hillary on the email and Clinton Foundation investigation front. It could well be a Bernie Sanders v Trump contest. In which case neither the Democrats or the Republicans will have a candidate.
commented 2016-05-10 23:06:18 -0400
Donald Trump is far too much his own man be labelled a Democrat.

But he is certainly not a Republican either.

The U. S. conservatives who have found the Republican Party to be their home base — organized, structured, sharing the same ideals — are suddenly without a candidate.

The race is now a Democrat against Trump. The Democrat will win, and the Republican Party completely destroyed.
commented 2016-05-10 22:21:36 -0400
ANDREW

I will tell you what will happen and what should happen.

Trump and Clinton will be a no contest for Clinton. Both have extremely high negatives, but Trump’s are higher. Advantage Clinton.

Trump will put himself out there as Clinton’s punching bag, and she will take every single shot at him. Advantage Clinton.

What should happen …

The RNC must be dealt with. Reince Priebus will have an accident. It will happen before the convention and it will be severe enough to permanently incapacitate him. Why take out Priebus? Because he is the one that has sunk the GOP. No one can be that incompetent; he’s clearly a Democrat mole. Take him out and the control over the RNC is broken.

Trump will be challenged on the convention floor and Romney will emerge as the brokered nominee. But I suspect that Trump may not even make it to the convention. He will also be incapacitated – permanently.
commented 2016-05-10 20:17:42 -0400
If Trump closes the borders, where will he get his next wife?
commented 2016-05-10 18:35:04 -0400
No Andrew it is the GAYSTAPO that needs to stop pushing their perverted views on the rest of us.
commented 2016-05-10 17:24:07 -0400
John, your premise that Trump will change his mind is likely wrong. Whether amnesty will cause a failure of conservative principles is also a big question mark.

Trump sincerely wants to do whats best for the US as he sees it. Most of his views are common sense, but go against the agenda of globalists (those un-elected rich elite few that want to control what happens to everyone else).
commented 2016-05-10 15:41:15 -0400
Dieter Cunth commented 4 hours ago
With the nomination of Trump, the US effectively becomes a one-party state, the Democratic Party. Trump is a NYC democrat and long-time party bagman.

Correct, but Trump makes his own rules and has no allegiances. The test of your comment is how badly Trump pounds Hilary into the dirt.

If Trump does a Romney and rolls over, then you are correct – single party system lives on.

Trump could be Hillary’s plan B, but why would a billionaire report/follow the lead of a 100-Millionaire?

I think Trump stands on his own. I think Trump is neither a Dem nor a Repub nor Rhino. Trump is an independent who saw incompetent goobermint and capitalized on it.
commented 2016-05-10 14:51:57 -0400
KEITH BARNES

If stupid was an STD, you’d be infected.

He’s a Democratic bagman, so he fundraises for Democratic candidates in exchange for political favours. There are no Republicans involved, save for one that was elected Mayor of NYC. And another Republican, who got his ass kicked by Obama in 2012.

Lots and lots of Democrats, all coming to Trump for funds. Trump fundraising for all these Democrats. Lots and lots of Democrats. He’s even friends with them, like the Clintons, and contributes to their $1 billion Clinton Foundation. And Trump even recommended Chelsea for a position at Avenue Capital Group hedge fund. And the Clintons have freely used Trump’s Boca Raton mansion when staying over in Florida.

Seems Trump’s ties to the Democrats are strong, deep, and very well-connected.

This is beginning to look more like a takeover of the GOP by the Democrats. And Trump is their mole.
commented 2016-05-10 13:57:21 -0400
DIETER CUNTH
Trump was a business man, he needed to have friends in all circles, regardless of his real feelings.
commented 2016-05-10 13:05:44 -0400
DALE WARREN

Your mastery of jackassery is nothing to be proud of …

Trump was a bagman for …

President Bill Clinton 1992 & 1996

Senator Hillary Clinton 2001 to 2005

Senator Al Gore 2000

Governor Mitt Romney (a Republican)

President Barak Obama 2008

NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani (a Republican)

NYC Mayor Ed Koch

NY Governor Mario Cuomo

NY Governor Andrew Cuomo

Governor Jesse Ventura (Reform Party Minnesota)

So…there are a lot of Democrats there, and not very many Republicans.

The list is even longer, but the following is highly instructive…

Trump and his wife attended Chelsea Clinton’s wedding as a guest of her parents, Bill and Hillary.

And Bill and Hillary were Trump’s guests at the Ivanka’s wedding, as well as his own marriage to Meliana.

And Trump is a long-time contributor to the Clinton Foundation.

What to try that Trump is a Republic line again? It just doesn’t work given his associations.
commented 2016-05-10 12:37:45 -0400
Running a plutocrat on a "let them eat cake " platform will not fly……Mitt Romney for example…..so I guess democracy just inherently collapses on itself and robber baron warlords who emerge in the post fall Caos are the natural state of political outcomes….no point whining about it.
commented 2016-05-10 12:19:49 -0400
Dieter . . . you are makin it up as you go . . .
“Trump is a NYC democrat and long-time party bagman.” ? ? ? That is pure NONSENSE !
Trump as a NY businessman donated to politicians of all stripes . . .

“Clinton is what could be called a “blue dog” democrat” ? ? ?
Clinton is an Alinsky fan and likely not much different from nutty Bernie . . . the list of her “accomplishments” is non existent. She is Dangerous to America !

And Andrew . . . Trump has more “Real World” experience than Cruz, Hillary and our feckless PM . . . ALL added together ! ! !
commented 2016-05-10 12:12:30 -0400
What are you smokin Inglis?
Cruz could never have won in November . . . he was a ONE Term Senator . . . just like Oby . . . and could not even get along with his fellow Senators! Cruz has NEVER demonstrated he could lead anything. But you Believe?
The thinking folks in the USA fed up with the Politicians . . . of both stripes, they have twice elected Repubs to control both the Senate and Congress . . . yet they have been feckless, gutless and just rubber stamped ALL of Oby’s program.
Trump is America’s Last Best Hope . . . will he succeed? Time will tell . . . but another Klinton Regime will be the end of America.
Oprah Winfrey Interviews Donald Trump in 1988
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZpMJeynBeg
commented 2016-05-10 11:45:39 -0400
Peter Netterville commented 24 mins ago
Everyone knows that Trump has supported Democrats before and also Republicans. Having supported Democrats before does not make him a democrat.

A man is judged by his actions, so I guess we will see … assuming he wins the election.

Is this why Canadians chose a snowboarding camp counselor? Bernie Trudeau’s actions were adequate to unseat a seasoned PM and economist

More accurately, Canadians are naive and arrogant and believe the media party which is financially controlled by the CBC and their $1.4BILLION IN WELFARE PER YEAR – no squawks by CTV, CanWest, Torstar, Postmedia when they get nothing and CBC, their competitor gets $1.4 BILLION of unaudited dollars per year.

Once again, you’re full of shit asshole!!! ….naive asshole!!!
commented 2016-05-10 11:29:42 -0400
If I could vote, I would vote Trump in a heartbeat. But we Canadians can only stand by and watch the inevitable fall of America next door to us. Followed by our own downfall. It’s too late now to save Canada/USA godlessness. As much as I’d like to see Trump win (and I think he will win), it really doesn’t matter anymore. The world is in a shambles because modern history is coming to a close. America will never be great again in our lifetimes. Too bad, eh?

Go read the book of Daniel and Revelation and you’ll understand why; otherwise, folks, stop fooling yourselves in thinking that any man or woman can save the world.
commented 2016-05-10 11:24:19 -0400
With the nomination of Trump, the US effectively becomes a one-party state, the Democratic Party. Trump is a NYC democrat and long-time party bagman. Clinton is what could be called a “blue dog” democrat, being more conservative than most of the party’s base. The GOP has been demolished and the RNC is party to the dismantling of their own party.

But the real issue is that, effectively, the US cultural war has seen the Democrats create a one-party state that will defend the Globalist agenda that favours progressives and sodomites. The true conservatives have been driven out of the GOP and into the creation of secessionist movements. In time, the Red States will splinter off from the Union, leaving the coastal Blue States isolated and under the destruction caused by progressives and sodomites.
commented 2016-05-10 11:18:48 -0400
Everyone knows that Trump has supported Democrats before and also Republicans. Having supported Democrats before does not make him a democrat.

A man is judged by his actions, so I guess we will see … assuming he wins the election.

But where the rubber meets the road, I would rather see Trump become the US President that lying murdering Hilary.
commented 2016-05-10 11:09:14 -0400
John Inglis – really???

If Trump were the same as Hillary, he’d be throwing lob balls like Romney did in 2012.

Trump is going to rip Hillary to pieces – I bet she cries during a debate – in fact, it’s been said that Hillary won’t be debating Trump. Hillary will be doing townhalls only.

The conservatives need to grow up and stop with the gay crap and the “controlling a woman’s vagina” abortion crap. These ships have sailed. These games are over.

There is a YYUUUUGE!!!! market for small goobermint and low taxes and that’s where conservatives need to spend their time. WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!

WE HAVE A FUCKING SNOWBOARDING CAMP COUNSELOR EMBARRASSMENT IN CHARGE NOW THANKS TO RIGID CONSERVATIVE IDIOTS LIKE YOU!!!!

Give the people what they want you doofus!!!!
commented 2016-05-10 11:03:16 -0400
Ya right Inglis, Trump is a Leftist Dem – and his running mate will be either the the Tooth Fairy or Easter bunny.