June 08, 2016

Alberta greenhouse operators latest casualty of NDP carbon tax with rejection of common sense amendment

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Commentator

Wildrose MLA Nathan Cooper tried to have natural gas used in commercial greenhouses exempted from the NDP’s carbon tax. 

This was a smart amendment. We know that purple fuel used by farmers will be exempt from the carbon tax but what about greenhouse producers who use natural gas to heat their greenhouses earlier in the season or late into the fall? This is Alberta. We have a short growing season and the best way for greenhouse producers to offset that unfortunate fact is the use of clean burning natural gas. Cooper’s amendment sought to level the playing field between different types of agricultural producers in Alberta.

The NDP shot Cooper’s amendment down like every other common sense measure that was brought forward to get in between these NDP destroyers and our money.

NDP MLA Thomas Dang offered the latest NDP excuse. He said natural gas is currently cheap so it’s ok to hike this huge operating expense for Alberta greenhouses.

What a remarkably stupid statement. Just because natural gas is cheap today doesn’t mean that it will always remain low nor does it mean that it’s a good idea to raise the cost of it by 50 to 75%. Alberta greenhouse operators carve out a living in a short growing season, dealing with an unforgiving Alberta climate, competing against cheap Mexican labour, longer California growing seasons and lower BC mainland producers who don’t need to use natural gas at all. This added tax will make Alberta greenhouse growers unable to keep their costs and prices low. Alberta food will have a tariff on it that food grown other places will not have.

Greenhouse operators are farmers, too. They’re a different kind of farmer but farmers none the less. They produce that locally grown, sustainable food the NDP says they like to support yet the carbon tax is a direct attack on them.

In actuality, Bill 20, the carbon tax manages to create the same two tiered results in the farming community that Bill 6 did. Some farmers are exempt from some parts of the legislation while others will not be. Bill 20 punishes all farmers, but some more than others.

It’s true, some animals are more equal.

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commented 2016-06-09 16:40:28 -0400
“Jamie, I don’t believe the only way to get attention for a cause is to break the law and cause civil disobedience … "

Neither do I, PETER. But at some point a person has to be honest with themselves and admit that conventional politics and processes haven’t worked very well – and another 5 or 10 years of the same isn’t likely to change things.

I posted a quote from Pericles a few days ago – as recorded by Thucydides in his History of the Peloponnesian War:

“Make up your minds that happiness depends on being free, and freedom depends on being courageous. "

He said it about 25 centuries ago, but I don’t think it’s out of date at all.
commented 2016-06-09 14:58:23 -0400
Jamie, I don’t believe the only way to get attention for a cause is to break the law and cause civil disobedience … and I don’t want to hear the other names you have for what I call “maturity”. I can guess what they are.
commented 2016-06-09 13:23:08 -0400
The “fractured right” are the buggers to blame in this Alberta’s mess! I am beginning to get pissed off. My business is dependent on those who want to invest in Alberta. Since the investment confidence is gone in Alberta, my business has suffered tremendously.
commented 2016-06-09 11:54:30 -0400
" That’s the thing about conservative minded people, we tend to respect the law unlike the socialists who not only block traffic, but break things and do civil disobedience. Conservative minded people are far more mature than that. "

Then you and yours are well and truly screwed, PETER, and your opponents know it. You call it maturity – I have some other names for it.
commented 2016-06-09 11:36:47 -0400
It’s days like this that I miss Keith’s comments!
commented 2016-06-09 11:34:25 -0400
I’m trying to get the NDP government officials to give me an accurate figure (in percentage) of how much the Carbon Tax will impact my small business operations beginning in ’17. Subsequently, beginning in ’17 my prices will increase accordingly.

BTW. They can’t !
commented 2016-06-09 11:31:01 -0400
Kevin said, “Cloward-Piven works you know.”

I would agree with that if the main stream media who should be exposing the NDP were doing their job and not silently complicit with the NDP, but so long as the mechanism for exposing their activity is severely restricted to just TheRebel and a few others the Cloward-Piven strategy will not be effective.
commented 2016-06-09 11:18:08 -0400
Please stop interrupting our enemies when they are making mistakes. If they want to close food banks, LET THEM. If they want to end greenhouses in Alberta, LET THEM. Cloward-Piven works you know. Just get out of the way, and let their own petard hoist them.

If food banks were smart, what they would do is start charging; a new NDP charge to donate, an NDP charge to receive food…. This is why the concept of secret ballot is wrong. Secret simply means everyone gets to hide from the consequences of their own bad decisions. Secret ballot means “fill the world with fools”.
commented 2016-06-09 10:49:59 -0400
@ Jamie – "So? Other than pissing, moaning, and typing away furiously, what’s being done about it?

So posting comments is not acceptable anymore? What are you doing here, then?

It appears that most conservative minded Albertans choose to protest using legal methods. That’s the thing about conservative minded people, we tend to respect the law unlike the socialists who not only block traffic, but break things and do civil disobedience. Conservative minded people are far more mature than that.
commented 2016-06-09 10:43:35 -0400
Anonymous said, “Why does Sheila always have to explain to the left how to be left wing?”

Why does Anonymous whine about nothing?

More to the point, why is Anonymous scared of posting comments using his/her/its’ real name?
commented 2016-06-09 10:21:49 -0400
So? Other than pissing, moaning, and typing away furiously, what’s being done about it?

Any tractor convoys on the 4-lanes? Are crowds plugging up downtown Edmonton? A thousand angry people shouting on the quiet street in front of the Energy minister’s house?
commented 2016-06-09 10:20:24 -0400
The last Albertan standing is going to have a wicked tax bill to pay for all these idiotic ideas. This reminds me of the late great Pl Pot and his futuristic visions. Can the re education camps be far away at this rate?
commented 2016-06-09 02:56:20 -0400
David Heinze, quit making sense. We’re talking about dippers here. Wait til all this carbon tax money kicks in and the winters start to get longer and colder. What will their gas bills be like then? But I assume when that happens they’ll say we have now won the war against climate change so we won’t have to pay the carbon tax anymore. Do you think that will take very long?
commented 2016-06-09 02:38:53 -0400
Good, good. Wreck local food production. That will just make things that much worse come the next election.

Keep going, Notley. You’re doing fine. Just keep wrecking things and it’ll make the next election look like a massacre for the NDP. Once the party is completely wiped out, there can be movement to decertify the party and make them illegal. Outlaw socialism. Evoke the Notwithstanding Clause and suspend their right to exist.
commented 2016-06-09 02:35:32 -0400
Why does Sheila always have to explain to the left how to be left wing?
commented 2016-06-09 01:40:17 -0400
the one thing i will enjoy about these commies taking over will be seeing all the lazy leeches in complete shock when they realize the state puts you to work under communism and heavy socialism. Enjoy cleaning toilets idiots.
commented 2016-06-09 01:21:29 -0400
Scratch a Canadian and you uncover a socialistic soul. The chickens have come home to roost. We are getting the ‘benefit’ of a progressive educational system.
commented 2016-06-09 00:53:12 -0400
So a few farmers are put out of business. What’s the big deal. They’re probably deniers anyway.The NDP are going to save our planet. A few farmers getting in the way isn’t going to stop them. Once the NDP clean the country side out of all the farmers and ranchers, they can start to build wind farms the size of New Brunswick. This is positive stuff people and many of you voted for it. Sit back and let the Notley government take care of things. They know what they’re doing.
commented 2016-06-09 00:49:41 -0400
KENETH LAWRENCE: Very well said, and Notley is a DOLT!!! This is sheer lunacy.

commented 2016-06-08 22:59:28 -0400
the ‘let them eat cake’ defense again.
remind me…what happened to marie antoinette?
oh ya…they chopped her head off ISIS-style…better than gangnam style
just sayin’
commented 2016-06-08 22:36:06 -0400
The little people don’t matter to the NDP any more. There was a time that they did, but that was before the NDP morphed into a faculty lounge club that obsesses about planet Earth turning into planet Venus because they have been conned into believing the AGW hoax. Notley is the absolute epitome of this. What a dolt.
commented 2016-06-08 22:32:21 -0400
You can have heat but you need light.
commented 2016-06-08 22:25:23 -0400
The traiteress media in Alberta is horrid, no counter reporting about how horrindesly bad this is going to be for us smack in the middle of winter. My God, what is wrong with these evil, braindead ndpees? This tax scares the hell out of us here and we have a young son with 4 kids, how in the hell are they ever going to survive this extra expense. It takes a family of six a huge amount of money to make ends meet and it’s no surprise, they have nothing left after all levels of governments rip and steal from us all. How are we going to pay for all this while union, bureaucrats, civil servants and politicans live in the lap of luxury. This insanity against us here in Alberta has got to STOP, STOP.
commented 2016-06-08 22:03:58 -0400
Do they not get that many greenhouses capture their own CO2 and use it to raise the levels in order to increase plant growth and reduce water requirements. Some even purchase CO2 for this very purpose. Therefore, shouldn’t get a credit for that?
commented 2016-06-08 21:20:20 -0400
How the NDP can get elected anywhere, anytime, anyhow just boggles the mind. How many people did Notley hire to sit in a room all day long to dream up these insane idiotic ideas which she then turns into policies to further regress the AB economy. It’s like she’s in a free fall mode with no one to stop her.
commented 2016-06-08 20:53:03 -0400
The fruits of the NDP sure are rotten.