June 01, 2015

Alberta's menthol tobacco ban: Should "morbidly obese" Health Minister be telling others how to live?

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I'm trying to make sense of the flavoured tobacco ban just put in place in Alberta by the new NDP majority.

Is this really the most pressing issue in the province today?

And why ban menthol cigarettes, which research shows are preferred by African-American smokers? Why not ban all tobacco products if they're unhealthy? Why the paternalistic, nanny state focus on the flavoured kind. That seems weird.

Then again, the answer is obvious: tax revenue.

 

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commented 2015-06-03 21:06:28 -0400
RE: “Anonymous commented 1 day ago
entrenching the nanny state and we all are complicit as we agree when it doesn’t affect me.”

That definitely sounds Communist. Why is it all you Commies are always lurking behind Anonymous – has some treacherous and subversive sounding agenda. We know all about the KGB and Fascist regimes.
This new Alberta government has definitely made a blazing start in disenfranchising the tax paying group they so depend on to pay for all their “Diversification” Plans. I wonder if MacDonalds will be next? Proven fact is – their products do cause more direct health damage in the ever-getting-younger generation – than smoking can. Kinda shows the immature approach these people have to life! I really believe they all need to be Drug tested – by the hair method.
commented 2015-06-03 09:46:38 -0400
Maybe the State should regulate who can have gravy with their fries?
commented 2015-06-03 09:45:01 -0400
“A person is considered … morbidly obese if the BMI is above 40.”
I have no idea, but let’s say she is 5 feet, 5 inches tall. She would then have to be 241 pounds, in order to have a BMI of 40.

It’s all academic anyway. Anybody who attaches ANY credibility to anything that ANY health minister (no matter their BMI) says about ANY health matter, deserves whatever they get.
commented 2015-06-03 00:42:20 -0400
I see that The Rebel has been infested with NDP kooks and freaks. Cant shut it down now, dimwits.
commented 2015-06-03 00:31:21 -0400
The population is being dumbed into oblivion.
commented 2015-06-03 00:27:44 -0400
Why dont we ban fat and stupid?
commented 2015-06-02 19:04:38 -0400
entrenching the nanny state and we all are complicit as we agree when it doesn’t affect me.
commented 2015-06-02 15:53:29 -0400
i havent seen any comments on why ban smoking as opposed to junk food, etc.. the obese, etc aren’t directly harming other’s with their 2nd hand smoke . yes they self harm and may do injustices by their modelling behaviors – to their children. however they dont directly impact the health of those around them.
commented 2015-06-02 15:53:28 -0400
i havent seen any comments on why ban smoking as opposed to junk food, etc.. the obese, etc aren’t directly harming other’s with their 2nd hand smoke . yes they self harm and may do injustices by their modelling behaviors – to their children. however they dont directly impact the health of those around them.
commented 2015-06-02 15:53:25 -0400
i havent seen any comments on why ban smoking as opposed to junk food, etc.. the obese, etc aren’t directly harming other’s with their 2nd hand smoke . yes they self harm and may do injustices by their modelling behaviors – to their children. however they dont directly impact the health of those around them.
commented 2015-06-02 11:05:00 -0400
This is why i believe marijuana should be legal. Why should any politician tell me what the good or bad choices are about my health. It is even more disgusting that they use children as a reason to punish adults.

Alcohol is glamorized all the time, the world is full of flavoured alcohol and no one does anything to try to prevent children from drinking.

This truly is government hypocrisy at its finest. All political parties included.

Choices have consequences,live by the sword die by the sword, that should be the message from government. And frankly a good message to young adults.
commented 2015-06-02 10:13:38 -0400
Some more good points there Adam. Winston Churchill was grossly overweight and out of shape and he was sending young men off to die.
commented 2015-06-02 10:13:00 -0400
I found it interesting that Ezra had put “morbidly obese” in quotes. Turns out, as reported by the Edmonton Journal, that an Alberta Tory party executive included those words in a Facebook post: “Our morbidly obese Health Minister Sarah Hoffman is going to ban the sale of menthol tobacco produces in Alberta as of September. I would assume then that if health is the chief concern, that all sodas, candy, processed sugar products … and fast foods … should then follow?”
commented 2015-06-02 09:25:29 -0400
She had to keep the press conference brief, as she was between meals…….
commented 2015-06-02 07:57:46 -0400
Hell of an opportunity for smugglers.
And, BEN and MARTY – Amen.
commented 2015-06-02 06:24:24 -0400
It is very ironic the health minister is the furthest from healthy, easy to spot that. What you fail to realize is she knows first hand people have trouble making healthy choices for themselves as the power of marketing grows. We’re speaking of majorities. It’s no secret CAD and USA are fat. Maybe the health minister should start cracking down on fast food chains. Banning them from close proximity to schools, stronger regulation of menus, and putting health warning signs at the entrances or right across the building with graphic pictures. Maybe extra tax on the crap foods and a break on the healthy. The only way to solve a problem is recognizing there is one in the first place. As long as there is a way to capitalize on peoples’ weaknesses, we must depend on government to make the right choice for us. My point is, she shouldn’t stop at tobacco bans if she wants respect. She needs to “excercise” (see what I did there?) her powers in an area she is most vulnerable to attack. Okay, Minister, you have our attention, now would be the time to “wow” us.
commented 2015-06-02 03:35:06 -0400
A good chunk of blame can also go on to the shoulders of food companies using targeted advertising of junk food aimed at children and teenagers. Ironically enough, cigarette companies used to do the same thing…
commented 2015-06-02 03:32:38 -0400
For all of you making excuses around ‘Thyroid this and that’, just remember, you don’t see too many thyroid problems in parts of the world people have no access to processed food or much food at all for that matter… It IS INDEED about stuffing your face with crappy food. Processed foods. Man made foods and preservatives. Now science is saying too much Dairy leads to IBS in some cases… ‘Crappy food’ is being redefined due to our obesity epidemic in North America.

Our industrialized way of looking at food is beginning to do some damage. Don’t buy int to that ‘organics’ nonsense either. It’s a scam and cash grab for activists.
commented 2015-06-02 01:40:03 -0400
Menthol smokers will have to buy at the reserve now, or switch to non menthol. Smokers aren’t deterred.
commented 2015-06-02 00:16:49 -0400
Why is someone who is that morbidly overweight a “health minister”? We’re not talking a few pounds here, we’re talking extremely over weight.
commented 2015-06-01 22:05:25 -0400
Perhaps her weight is a hormonal issue???? But if the dippers want to diversify the economy I suppose black market in smokes is an alternative. Another blow to what revenue stream they may have now that oil is tanking.
commented 2015-06-01 21:54:54 -0400
Peter I am right here in Alberta a newcomer to the Wild Rose province but hey why did no one tell me before I moved that they are not the government?
commented 2015-06-01 21:52:45 -0400
Your points are valid Adam.
commented 2015-06-01 21:42:51 -0400
Ron Zager said, “Perhaps I am in the wrong province, country and time.”

If you are in Alberta, I fear that both of us along with all the others who did not vote for the NDP are now in the wrong province. Let’s hope this cigarette ban is the only stupid thing they do! Okay, I don’t believe that either.
commented 2015-06-01 21:30:05 -0400
The Fight is On! Let the games begin!
We need to put in place an “Expedient Recall” Law!
Typical Anonymous person … you won’t be for long if you maintain those views – you self-righteous Socialist!
commented 2015-06-01 21:02:09 -0400
I see Sarah Hoffman got 68% of the votes in the election. That is no mean achievement. She is a teacher and I don’t know her health background if any. I know the NDP found it difficult to fill the cabinet with people holding the area of expertise required. Not their fault they did not expect to win. In connection with the smoking ban I don’t smoke but you should not legislate on self discipline issues. If people want to smoke let them. I would say that was wrong what the NDP government has done. I would like very little government involvement in personal matters. Perhaps I am in the wrong province, country and time.
commented 2015-06-01 20:44:57 -0400
You know the really ridiculous thing here, is that they’ve got the whole thing bass aackwards. If they were really serious about public health, they would have approved the menthol, along with all the other flavors, and band tobacco. Cart before the horse, typical NDP.
commented 2015-06-01 19:21:14 -0400
So, the medium corpus is the message: hypocrisy.
commented 2015-06-01 19:12:21 -0400
This piece of legislation (Tobacco Reduction Act) was started by the PCs not the NDP and was going to take effect this month. The only difference the NDP made was to include menthol. But please continue spewing your BS about “socialist pigs” nannying you and body shaming the new Health Minister. Give your heads a shake – maybe you can shake off some of your ignorance.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/alberta-to-phase-in-flavoured-tobacco-ban-legislation-but-exempts-menthol/article21580266/