October 02, 2015

Campus pro-life group sues University of Alberta over free speech

Rebel Staff
 

Amberlee Nichol is a third year education student at the University of Alberta. 

She is the president of the Campus Pro-life Group at the university of Alberta and her group, along with John Carpay of the Justice Center For Constitutional Freedoms, is trying to bring an injunction against the university. They want to force the university to uphold it’s own student code of conduct.

According to Amberlee, her small group had been subject to ongoing harassment and vandalism throughout the 2014- 2015 school year and finally in March 2015, a mob organized itself on Facebook and disrupted a univeristy authorized gathering they were having.

Amberlee and her group don’t want anything special. They just want to have the same rights as every other university sanctioned group. They want the code of conduct applied equally to them and to every other student out there.

They want free speech. That seems reasonable to me.

 

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commented 2015-10-10 22:37:20 -0400
great segment this fight has been going on for years but to not have the same right as another group like those dastardly tree huggers is just wrong. We all need to feel safe and secure for our liberty to free speech. with that said we never hear about any Islamic groups trying to voice them selves.. oh right their religion doesnt allow them to do that.
commented 2015-10-07 14:18:54 -0400
Cathy – I agree, college is much more civil, and there are less activists, trying to ram their garbage down your throat!
commented 2015-10-05 18:26:49 -0400
With these pro abortion platforms universities display, they all need to be under investigation and it needs to stop. Universities are disgusting with the treatment they showed to this pro life group. Hideous creeps are running them. Stop going to universities and go to college instead. That ought to put a giant hemorrhoid in their ass not to mention close some of them down.
commented 2015-10-05 17:43:43 -0400
Note to Al:
Human Rights Commissions wouldn’t take on the challenge as they’re all run by left-wing nutbars who agree with withholding the rights of those they don’t agree with (haven’t drunk the Kool-Aid)…
commented 2015-10-05 17:37:56 -0400
I always find it interesting that when a woman or a couple want to have a child they – we – call it a baby. But if she/they don’t want it, it’s called a fetus…
I too find it interesting how the pro-choice group calls pro-lifers “anti-choice”. Does that mean then that we can call the pro-choice group " anti-life" or “pro-death”?
Liberals…gotta love ‘em…so intelligent they’re stupid…
commented 2015-10-05 13:54:13 -0400
Jimmy I saw the typical argue the exception to the rule to try and justify the rule. A very small percentage of women get abortions because they were raped or because their physical health or life is in actual jeopardy. This is a profitable industry. I also see the tendency to want to blame everyone else for the problem you created and yet demand they pay to fix it. I was told by a friend he was at a pro-life rally when one frumpy older woman protestor grabbed the microphone and started yelling “it is men like you who rape women like me and force us to get abortions”. This embodies much of the attitude I see in the anti-life crowd. I created this problem (with a few exceptions) and you are going to fix it and I’ll yell and scream and use profanities to make my point and the soulless politicians rush to oil the squeaky wheel hoping this will translates into votes. I don’t really blame anyone from bringing a video camera to any kind of protest these days as a means of defense. I think yo will find there are people carrying iphones or cameras on both sides of the issue and more power to them both. It may provide the defense of wrongful accusations in a heated debate by some who are not always honest or their memory is selective whether legitimately or not.
commented 2015-10-05 11:51:04 -0400
@jimmy Da Silva I highly doubt that people are advocating burning planned parenthood to the ground. Sure their may be the one or few who are the exception but that is true in any demographic on many issues. In the right to life marches I attended it was the counter protesters who were hurling vile vitriol and one individual spit in a young man’s face. I am by no means suggesting all the anti-life crowd are this rude. I also would like to say if police arrive at a crime scene and a person runs it suggests guilt. Likewise if they have committed no wrong doing they need not run. In the same token if a person has not committed a shameful act they won’t feel shame but the fact is they do feel shame and this is nothing more than trying to silence the social conscience when the cold hard reality that human life is so cheapened it is considered nothing more than an interference with the pursuit of personal happiness.
commented 2015-10-05 08:39:43 -0400
Jimmy,
Yes some of those protesting do want the laws to change with emphasis understandably on policies governing the funding of abortion. In truth however, many of them, including myself, realize that a change in the law is not a solution to such a deep-rooted social issue. Meaningful change on this issue can only come from the heart through commitment, empathy, and love.

What is “shame” Jimmy? Is it not more a response to ones conscience then the presence of hecklers in a crowd? If there are people who resort to using derisive, aggressive, and abusive comments or tactics, and no doubt there are, then they certainly are not representative of the movement as a whole.
commented 2015-10-05 01:57:41 -0400
Prince,

Clearly the abortion debate isn’t over – since those protesting want laws to change with the help of politicians that are pro-life as well.

Don’t act like these are people just getting together for tea – they have an agenda, they want laws changed, they shame women who just left an abortion clinic and they want Planned Parenthood burned to the ground if possible.

Can we talk reality here please?
commented 2015-10-05 00:30:14 -0400
Edward, excellent point. The left aren’t interested in choice for those of us who oppose abortion, to opt out of paying to destroy human life. As good leftists, they are only interested in their own choice. Like the old socialist saying, “What’s yours is mine, and what’s mine is mine”, so to speak. Leftists are generally hypocrites to the core.
commented 2015-10-04 23:24:32 -0400
I find it so odd that pro- abortion people use the term pro-choice. What choice do I have as a tax payer whose funds are partially used to pay for something which for the most part is nothing more than convenience killing.
commented 2015-10-04 23:04:46 -0400
Rae – If the lives of others have value the slavery, abortion, caste systems, and state sponsored murder are all anathema. If the lives of others have no value, then neither does yours. What kind of society would you rather live in?

There are lots of fine points that can be used to deflect this question, but each fetus (that is not a twin) contains a unique batch of DNA. If some are disposable (based on age, skin colour, sex, caste, or a hundred other reasons), then why not all?
commented 2015-10-04 21:05:53 -0400
PK said, “You’re telling the rest of us that you’re actually okay with a society of double standards?”

When it comes to Jimmy, as long as those double standards benefit him or are “standards” he agrees with, then it is okay for him. Jimmykins is the usual leftie, no morals whatsoever.
commented 2015-10-04 15:03:18 -0400
Jimmy, you are missing the point… or, at least, deliberately sidestepping it so as to deflect attention from the reality of what is actually going on. Yes, the abortion debate is over. We know that. Those against abortion are trying to persuade those considering it to not go through with it. The “debate”, the legalities, the right to choose are not in question.

What is in question is the right of those against abortion to protest at all.

What’s fair for the SJWs is not fair for others? U of A is allowed to break its own rules regarding free speech? Hell, we’re witnessing this with Lauren Southern. The SJWs are allowed to spew whatever they want, but a peaceful demonstration against them is removed by police.

You’re telling the rest of us that you’re actually okay with a society of double standards?
commented 2015-10-04 12:59:22 -0400
Hypocrisy – when a bunch of activists agitate for freedom of expression, but what they agitate for is the removal of freedom for others.
commented 2015-10-04 11:22:14 -0400
Socialism mantra: “All men are not created equal. It is the purpose of Government to make them so.”
Under such a view, what happens to excellence—that anyone can rise and prosper as a result of hard work and the application of his or her God-given talents?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4jJvW-WLcM
commented 2015-10-04 08:20:43 -0400
The problem, is that the focus is on quickly, and conveniently getting rid of unwanted pregnancies, instead of focusing more on counseling these women, to have these babies, and to give them up for adoption. Even offering these women money to have these babies to term, would be more humane, than the atrocities going on in this generation killing machine, that is firmly established in our medical system. I would rather life, than the eventual extinction of human beings. They can’t have it both ways. I think what it is is that some human beings are more important than others. And what of Planned Parenthood harvesting the organs, of near term babies, for money. This is pure evil, and the public needs to know what is going on here.
commented 2015-10-04 05:53:44 -0400
Sorry, My comment was meant for Jimmy Da Silva not Victor.
commented 2015-10-04 04:33:26 -0400
Rae, I care, if a mother deems it appropriate to have an abortion. I care not only for the child, I care for her and society as well. Indeed, it is her decision and I do not believe that she should be chastised for exercising that choice. No man or woman can claim to be more righteous then the next. We all have to move on despite the decisions we make; hopefully we won’t totally lose sight of the truth.
commented 2015-10-04 04:32:52 -0400
Victor, This debate is “still a thing” because the debate is about an innocent child that is rejected and its life terminated by it’s parent/parents, and the doctor including the public at large because taxpayers have no option but to see their taxes go to fund this horrendous act.

As long as there are people in society, such as myself, who fundamentally recognize the unborn child as a human being/person, then this debate will continue to rage on.
commented 2015-10-04 02:39:14 -0400
This is one debate that I never much cared about. Pro-life what hell is that ? I could care less if a female deems it appropriate to have an abortion. It is her decision.
commented 2015-10-04 02:05:46 -0400
“Take away all my rights, but leave me my freedom of speech. With that, I can win the rest back.”

Sheila, that’s why the left are so determined to take away our (conservatives) right to freedom of speech. It’s the key to taking away the rest of our rights. They want us gone from the face of the Earth so they can build their brave new world. What they don’t understand is that when they do that, they are opening the door to their own destruction, and it will come. That has already begun, but they are too busy persecuting us to see it. Their just punishment is on the way.

You’re doing great work here, Sheila, keep it up. I look forward to seeing many more such reports from you.
commented 2015-10-04 00:58:39 -0400
Jimmy De Shithead – “I didn’t miss the point. I just think it’s pathetic that this debate is still a thing.”
The debate is about free speech and the University trampling on that very right. So either you think that the debate about free speech is over or you did completely miss the point. Which one?
commented 2015-10-03 23:26:10 -0400
Since this discussion started 120,000 babies were aborted. Just saying
commented 2015-10-03 21:12:07 -0400
“Appropriate balanced and based on established policies and procedures”
What a joke of a response. This is a clear violation of freedom of speech. I sure hope these established policies and procedures are shown in court. There are many laws broken here.
I am afraid Debroah Graupner may be correct. These Liberal judges will make nothing of it, How sad.
Ezra, Sheila Gunn Reid keeps knocking them all out of the ball park. She has exposed a gross injustice here. Sheila is a shoe in for “Rookie of the Year” and “Employee of the Month” awards. Once we transfer the annual funds of $1.1 Billion a year to The Rebel from the CBC, you can set up a good “Recognition Program” and triple her salary.
Keep em coming Sheila
commented 2015-10-03 19:16:10 -0400
Prince,

I didn’t miss the point. I just think it’s pathetic that this debate is still a thing.
commented 2015-10-03 19:08:36 -0400
You missed the point, Jimmy. The womens’ rights are protected, but it appears that the rights of those opposed on a university campus are not. Thus, the lawsuit.
commented 2015-10-03 18:54:31 -0400
What year is it? Are we still debating a woman’s right to choose what happens to her own body?