June 29, 2015

CBC emails reveal new attempt to protect Trudeau from Tory attack ads

Brian LilleyRebel Co-Founder
 

The state broadcaster is being selective about who can use their material for political ads and at least one internet law expert says they don't have a legal leg to stand on.  

After trying to censor political speech and political ads on their own network, the CBC is now trying to censor the internet through misapplication of copyright law. 

 

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commented 2016-10-27 13:27:13 -0400
Censor the CBC or get rid of it.
commented 2016-07-03 11:44:11 -0400
in just over 3 years, when the Conservatives are place back in power, after the 4 year disaster of the Trudeau Liberals. The very first order of business must be to abolish the CBC. Shut it down, sell the rotting corpse to the highest bidder, and get rid of that stinking hell hole of socialism and Liberals.
commented 2015-07-02 22:35:42 -0400
Ezra Levant has lied and had to pay for it.
commented 2015-07-02 16:01:52 -0400
Yep – Terry is right as usual and Mike is completely wrong. The majority of Canadians support the CBC.
commented 2015-07-02 15:52:23 -0400
Mike, I guess you missed this response to an earlier comment:
“The poll you are quoting was commissioned by QMI, the Quebec conglomerate with had JUST launched their own “rival” “news” network, Sun Media. The poll was online, and based on 1003 responses.
Interestingly, another poll (conducted by Harris Decima, NOT for CBC but for the Canadian Press), conducted three months AFTER the online, click-in poll you’re quoting, found that “46 per cent of Canadians would like the CBC’s funding to stay at the current level and 23 per cent would like it to be increased.On the flip side, 22 per cent say funding should be cut, while 12 per cent say it should be eliminated altogether.” That was a random sample dial-out poll, not a “vote here at our website” poll. "
The 2014 poll you are currently referring to was also a click in poll on the Sun website, conducted after Sun New lost their pitch for mandatory carriage and entered their final decline. As a gauge to public opinion, it has NO statistical validity whatsoever (and you’ll note that in fact they don’t even try to provide reliability and variance factors).
commented 2015-07-02 15:32:34 -0400
Jiimy DaSilva; You are spiteful person who lies just like the rest of Trudeau’s beetches. A poll of 1,996 Canadians by Abacus Data found that 45% of those surveyed support or strongly support selling CBC compared to 34% who opposed the move, while 21% were undecided. Support for selling Canada Post was slightly higher with 47% backing a sale and 38% opposed. Via Rail had the highest level of support for privatization with 53% agreeing that the rail service should be sold off. There is NO majority support for the CBC. There are only dueling polls and confusion. Why not just make CBC a subscription and let people who want this garbage pay for this garbage!
commented 2015-07-02 13:59:57 -0400
I would like to remind the conservative morons here that STEPHEN HARPER APPROVED FUNDING FOR THE CBC and sees it as an important Canadian service.

You are complaining about something that your precious Harper has approved. What is so fucking hard to understand here? Complain to Harper – don’t whine like the liberals are in control here when it comes to the CBC.
commented 2015-07-02 13:52:03 -0400
Token,

The majority of Canadians support the CBC and see it as a needed service. You lose. Get out.
commented 2015-07-02 13:49:59 -0400
Bill,

Because it would probably be impossible for the governments of the world to send individual statements to billions of people indicating down to the penny – how exactly your tax dollars were spent. This is why governments give an overview of where tax dollars go.

You know money goes to police, roads and yes The CBC for example. It doesn’t mean YOUR money specifically goes to those things though. But you are well aware of what taxes pay for.
commented 2015-07-02 13:12:41 -0400
“how can it be that ANYTHING producded by a public broadcaster using public funds not be public property and open to use by the public”
Let me get this straight before I counter with some interesting applications of that theory. You’re arguing that all products of a publicly funded agency should be public property and open to use by the public?
commented 2015-07-02 13:08:24 -0400
Dale: The PBS model is certainly one option. However, Canada and the rest of the world have gone in a different direction in terms of public broadcasting.
“The CBC is Canada’s PRAVDA.”
Since Canada has been under Conservative governance for nine years, including the recent Conservative majority, your suggestion that this is a state broadcaster would seem to run counter to the notion that the CBC is a Liberal propaganda machine. There’s a big difference between “state broadcaster” and “publicly funded broadcaster”.
“Long past time to change the “Broadcast Act” Terry”
I quite agree, Dale. However, it’s still relevant for folks trying to understand our current system, as it does define our regulatory framework.
“But get out of MY POCKET ! ! ! "
Yep, there are several federal programs and initiatives that make me feel the same way. So – lobby and vote accordingly.
“Gave up watching the CBC hacks two decades ago.”
So you’re saying you’re not really in a position to comment on their programming? ;)
“How do you feel Terry about the CBC funnelling 10s of millions of MY Tax Dollars to Global and CTV in the form of CBC Advertising?”
How do I feel about a broadcaster advertising their programming? Well, err, pretty good, I guess. That’s what broadcasters do.
commented 2015-07-02 13:02:08 -0400
Bottom line Brian is how can it be that ANYTHING producded by a public broadcaster using public funds not be public property and open to use by the public – The CBC displays the same ideological dyslexia as the left – they have morals when they need them and abandon them when it is convenient – they pimp public ownership but act like a private corporation.

Big shake up needed – long over due, too much smug mediocrity and selfie culture in Mothercorpse these days – things can only get worse unless change is demanded.
commented 2015-07-02 12:58:07 -0400
“This is why I don’t really give a shit where my taxes go, because I understand this is how the world works when it comes to taxes. Paying taxes isn’t à la carte. "

Perhaps this is the root on the dysfunctional democracy we endure. Once again – accountability, visibility, integrity why should the government be given an exemption?
commented 2015-07-02 12:32:33 -0400
Terry R . . . “I support public broadcasting” ? ? ?
I do to . . . Voluntary Public Broadcasting like PBS . . . . but that is not what the CBC is.
The CBC is Canada’s PRAVDA . . . far-left media paid for by ALL taxpayers.

“Read the Broadcast Act” ? ? ?
Long past time to change the “Broadcast Act” Terry . . . it dates back to the first half of the 20th Century . . . if you and your friends want the CBC to carry on . . . take up a collection, have a “Fundraiser” like PBS does regularly. But get out of MY POCKET ! ! !
Gave up watching the CBC hacks two decades ago . . . what is amuzing is the same aged hacks are still there getting paid way to much of my money.
How do you feel Terry about the CBC funnelling 10s of millions of MY Tax Dollars to Global and CTV in the form of CBC Advertising . . . sure keeps the “Competition” on side . . . yes ! ! !
commented 2015-07-02 07:12:14 -0400
“Are they really focused on the Tories or is CBC trying to stop all parties from using their footage?”
Broadcasters own the rights to the footage they produce. There are permissible and impermissible uses for that footage: here’s a quick summary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_dealing_in_Canadian_copyright_law.
The Conservative Party want to use CBC-produced studio interview material for their attack ads.
commented 2015-07-02 06:56:47 -0400
" “trust the government with your money like the rest of us good citizens”.
Not quite. A better summary would be: pay attention to what the government does with your money: vote accordingly, lobby accordingly, volunteer accordingly. Like the majority of Canadians since the first stations were licensed, I support public broadcasting – I understand the arguments against it; I disagree with more of them than I agree with, obviously. My argument here, as you will have noted, is not so much a defense of public broadcasting as a defense of debate by fact, not by stridency of opinion.
“…could be explained by lack of education.”
LOL. Yes, that’s one explanation. Or maybe the folks who prefer listening to Paul Kennedy’s “Ideas” are actually BETTER educated than the folks who like to listen to the rollin’ home show with Kevin and the Shark, or whatever.
“Terry: your background sounds eerily similar to my own. Are you my evil twin?”
Well, I was whisked away at birth by gypsies, taught the arts of the trapeze, and forced to perform before the crowned heads of Europe for decades before escaping, so I guess it’s possible. But seriously – what parts of our bio seem to match?
commented 2015-07-02 02:11:43 -0400
The usual suspects (Terry & Jimmy): You’re both using the same argument for forcing taxpayers to pay for something that isn’t wanted or needed. It’s basically “trust the government with your money like the rest of us good citizens”. Until you don’t like what the government does with your money, like killing murderous terrorists in the middle east or giving Enbridge a tax break for employing thousands of Canadians, that is. Just so you know, that argument’s never, ever going to work here. Terry: your background sounds eerily similar to my own. Are you my evil twin? Anyhoo, the dichotomy between what’s so obvious here and the results of the polls or whatever regarding the value of the CBC could be explained by a lack of education. I believe that if a large sampling of Canadian taxpayers was taken with the question including a simple T-chart showing what the CBC gives us on one side and it’s cost on the other would show a clear vote for stopping this stupidity. …After a 3 week ad campaign by those of us against the CBC in whatever independent media would take our money (very short list, there) showing much the same thing. Maybe try to get it snuck into stories on main stream media. The more people actually understand just how much it costs versus what we get for it the less popular it will be, I say.
commented 2015-07-01 23:18:42 -0400
Are they really focused on the Tories or is CBC trying to stop all parties from using their footage?
commented 2015-07-01 19:03:37 -0400
CBC…they still on the air other than Saturday nights October to June….oh snap now that is gone too, good riddance
commented 2015-07-01 11:38:38 -0400
“I will never respond to ANY challenge you pose to me to “go fetch proof little doggie” until YOU prove to MY satisfaction that Ireland is an island….and I will demonstrate to you the absurdity of the game….I was expert at it in university. "
I don’t much care, Glenn. If you ask me to back up an assertion I make with facts, I’ll do my best to provide them, as I long as I think you’re actually debating with me in good faith, and that your request for evidence is part of your assessment of my position, not just a gambit in an argument.
I rebutted Peter’s “opinion” with the best information I could find, and invited him to provide information to back up his “opinion”. He chose not to. Fair enough. I draw my own conclusions from that.
commented 2015-07-01 11:33:42 -0400
“.I will not mince my words Terry…I hate the CBC….I hate it rancourously.”
No problem, that’s your right. So vote for candidates who oppose public broadcasting (as I assume you do) and argue against it in forums like this (as I see you are.)
A fair chunk of my life has spent in broadcasting, as a techie, a director, and a writer, in both public media and in the private sector. I’ve never been an CBC employee, but I’ve appeared on air as a guest, written about them (among others), and am very familiar with their mandate, and with their strengths and weaknesses (both of which abound). I don’t share your hatred of the network, but I no longer try convince ideologues of the virtues of public broadcasting. I try to limit my input in these threads to correcting obvious, egregious lies and errors, and to trying separate fact from opinion. I know I won’t change an ideologue’s beliefs; but it IS possible that someone may be surprised enough by an actual fact to think a bit, and maybe to do some digging on their own.
commented 2015-07-01 11:33:30 -0400
Bill,

Obviously we don’t know where our personal taxes officially go – we are not sent a list each month of how our personal taxes were used. You may not be supporting CBC at all, but you are most likely supporting other things that you don’t support.

This is why I don’t really give a shit where my taxes go, because I understand this is how the world works when it comes to taxes. Paying taxes isn’t à la carte.
commented 2015-07-01 11:24:28 -0400
“If you are so confident that tax payers are happy with the CBC…”
I’ve introduced evidence to that effect, yes.
“Why not put a pro-rated subscription on income tax forms as a voluntary option”
Well, Glenn, the same thing can, of course, be said of funding for any crown agency, program, service, policy or initiative, so I’m not sure that system would work very well.
commented 2015-07-01 08:55:58 -0400
Good pieces by both Ezra Levant and Brian Lilley, exposing CBC’s corrupt practices. I like Mr. Lilley’s use of the term “media cartel”, because the Toronto-based, anti-Conservative corporate media indeed are in every way acting as in an illegal cartel, conspiring behind closed doors to act against the Conservative party, to achieve their ends to defeating the Conservative party. Needless to say it is only the Rebel media exposing the CBC as a corrupt institution.
commented 2015-07-01 07:12:12 -0400
“You pay for tons of things with your taxes that you may or may not support " – heh not in a real democracy you don’t. Either stop pretending we are in a democracy or stop taxing personal choice.
commented 2015-07-01 06:59:36 -0400
CBC execs are long overdue for prosecution – go for it. I may even watch CBC if they carry the proceedings.
commented 2015-06-30 22:02:36 -0400
Liza,

His hands are not tied at all. He can approve much less money.
commented 2015-06-30 22:02:12 -0400
Should read, if Harper stops funding completely , the left would have a field day.
commented 2015-06-30 22:01:35 -0400
Edward,

You pay for tons of things with your taxes that you may or may not support – the CBC is the least of your problems and your money may not be going to the CBC anyway.