November 02, 2015

Did foreign funding help Rock the Vote organizer "oust" Harper?

Holly NicholasRebel Commentator
 

The “Rock the Vote” Canada campaign is taking at least partial credit for increasing the First Nation vote by 200%.

As a part of my investigations into “non-partisan, non-political” organizations, I decided to take a look into this one. Surprise! I found hundreds of thousands of funding dollars being filtered into the Rock the Vote US campaign from Tides. We know that George Soros is a contributor to this non-profit organization.

I gave the head office in Washington a call and they had no idea what the Canadian chapter was all about, even though they’re listed as an international chapter on the Rock the Vote website. But they gave me a number and an email – both out of service.

And then I found a video of the organizer coming out to say that she ran the Canada campaign to get rid of Harper. The Rock the Vote US site states that they are registered as a 501 (c)(3) organization. So why is Rock the Vote Canada partisan?

I don’t know if Rock the Vote Canada benefits from foreign money, but I do know that they helped Justin Trudeau and the Liberals form a majority government.

What do you think about these organizations swaying Canadian votes?

 

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commented 2015-11-03 17:38:58 -0500
I like this line from Holly Nicholas: “I don’t know if Rock the Vote Canada benefits from foreign money, but I do know that they helped Justin Trudeau and the Liberals form a majority government.”
How true it is. Many organizations helped, but in the end it was those who cast ballots who gave Trudeau the majority; and a very solid majority at that.
commented 2015-11-03 10:27:00 -0500
“Why are First Nation “citizens” permitted to vote in a Canadian general election?”
Because they’re Canadian citizens.
“Isn’t it the case that First Nation citizens already hold elections to determine who the leader for their own Nation will be?”
Indeed they do, many of them, in much the same way as you vote for a mayor, a provincial government, and a federal government.
“When I became a citizen of Canada I gave up my right to vote in a U.K. election because I shouldn’t be allowed to have that kind of voting right in two different nations, and rightfully so.”
Ah. Well, there’s a difference between Canada’s relationship with Britain and with First Nations.
“If First Nation citizens wish to have this voting right, should those individuals not give up their First Nation citizenship and all its benefits, and live as Canadian citizens with all the appropriate rights and benefits, including paying taxes and voting?”
They do lives as Canadian citizens, with the appropriate rights and benefits, and most do pay taxes and vote, unless exempted from certain categories of taxation under the terms of a treaty.
commented 2015-11-02 20:14:02 -0500
Harper is soft. He didn’t defund CBC. He didn’t defend Canada against foreign meddlers and left wing Canadian third party radicals and he won’t fill the open Senate seats. Oh for Thatcher’s toughness.
commented 2015-11-02 19:46:55 -0500
The lefties are still gloating. Foreign money influencing Canadian elections seems to matter not to them to fuel their hatred of anything or anyone Conservative. Come back to gloat in 4 years if it is even possible!
commented 2015-11-02 18:04:14 -0500
How many elections do First Nations get to vote in? I suggest that all Canadians should be allowed to vote for their chiefs since they are evidently allowed to vote for ours!
commented 2015-11-02 17:32:01 -0500
I will tell you all exactly what happened in the Winnipeg mayoral elections. The candidate that the video was referring to is Gord Steeves. The media made him out to be this racist villain because his wife made a comment on facebook from a few years ago. It read something like this.

I am so sick of the drunken native guys in the skywalk that ask for my money.

So word got out, and Steeves was made out to be racist towards aboriginals. When he refused to apologize, the media hated him even more. Some banuck dispensing woman even asked Steeves and his wife to join her in handing out banuck.

The election was won by current mayor Bowman. Bowman is a Metis guy who even cried behind the podium over having mixed race children. Bowman did not win because of his race. He won because he convinced the voters that if everybody did not rally behind him, some other mayoral candidate, who was not steeves, would win.

Winnipeg does in fact have a lot of panhandlers, and most of them are aboriginal. I guess the money from the welfare cheques are not enough, so they go out panhandling instead of looking for jobs. Maybe instead of making innocent people who get harassed out to be racist, perhaps the activists can help those panhandlers get jobs.
commented 2015-11-02 17:18:59 -0500
William Wiser commented 4 hours ago
“I don’t think this election was pro-Trudeau as it was simply anti-Harper. 68% of voters simply had enough of the Harper Conservatives. Besides, this country is not a conservative country. The majority of Canadians vote centrist and left. Harper was winning his mandate on less than 40% of the popular vote, he just won because he split the other 60+% of the vote among the other parties.”

Liberals centrist? Surely you jest.
“The 15 years Trudeau ran Canada are generally seen as heralding a significant left-wing shift in what had previously been a rather conservative country.” http://www.thecanadaguide.com/prime-ministers/pierretrudeau
http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/pierre-trudeaus-disastrous-record-is-finally-laid-out-for-all-to-see

Also, during the time Harper was PM all we heard was that Harper did not represent the majority yet Trudeau now somehow does? Just how does that work exactly? If all of the left leaning support Trudeau then care to explain why there are votes for the NDP and votes for the Green party? Clearly they do not support Trudeau or they would have voted Liberal. They voted NDP because they thought Muclair was the man for the job not Trudeau, same with the Green party they voted for May because they thought she was best for the job not Trudeau. So the only people in fact that support Trudeau are the people that actually voted Liberal.
Lib 39.5%, Con 31.9%, NDP 19.7%, BQ 4.7%, Green 3.4%.
commented 2015-11-02 16:58:04 -0500
Jay Kelly but money from outside to promote is not democracy and tell that to the left who whined and cried that Harper cheated for years and said he got less than 50% of the vote then they ignore when Justin got even less than Harper did.
commented 2015-11-02 16:09:27 -0500
Jay Kelly, “having a leader that looked glazed-over,”

If you were attacked relentlessly day in and day out by the main stream media for 10 years straight, you probably would look a bit “glazed over” too. The very fact that he was a composed and dignified as he was, is quite a testament to his strong character and even gave up his extra retirement pension quietly with out fanfare.

Jay said, "After so much damage, there were still some veterans, some native people, and some seniors who voted Conservative. "

Harper had 230,000 less votes than when he received his majority. Can you imagine how big his majority would have been if the main stream media did not continually attack Harper daily for 10 years straight?
commented 2015-11-02 16:08:14 -0500
Keep digging! They will try to stonewall you and they will most certainly lie. But the truth is as plain as is looks. This is a partisan organization that supported the Liberals, operating in Canada, with funding and influence from a foreign country. I have no doubt that this is not the only group such as this.
commented 2015-11-02 15:35:40 -0500
or to invert the old battle cry;
“No representation without taxation.”
commented 2015-11-02 15:33:10 -0500
Why are First Nation “citizens” permitted to vote in a Canadian general election?
Isn’t it the case that First Nation citizens already hold elections to determine who the leader for their own Nation will be?
When I became a citizen of Canada I gave up my right to vote in a U.K. election because I shouldn’t be allowed to have that kind of voting right in two different nations, and rightfully so.
If First Nation citizens wish to have this voting right, should those individuals not give up their First Nation citizenship and all its benefits, and live as Canadian citizens with all the appropriate rights and benefits, including paying taxes and voting?
Before the “bigot” and “racist” screams start, I’m sure a law, or a regulation, or a rule supports the situation, I’m just questioning the situation’s logic.
commented 2015-11-02 15:21:01 -0500
The fact of the matter is this was a DIRTY election. With foreign money funding groups to vote against Mr. Harper, Unions running third party campaigns against Mr. Harper, MSM especially the CBC publishing lies and spinning everything to suite their agenda which was ‘Liberal’ at all costs. And why did that happen? Why did these groups go against Mr. Harper?
Because Mr. Harper was the type of PM that did not stand for the UN and their BS, they want world dominance, did not endorse Climate Change, this is where people like Soros, Suzuki, and groups like Tides etc. make their money (huge money), did not support the CBC, there was a good chance he would have sold that communist organization, and did not bend over backwards to the FN’s and their constant demands for more money. This is as simple as I can make it so that the lefties can understand the truth of what really happened.
This was NOT about how good Justien the puffball is, BUT about how AFRAID these very rich groups and organizations were of a GOOD MAN named Mr. Harper!
commented 2015-11-02 15:19:51 -0500
Numbers are being bandied about as to the percentage of voters wanted Harper out, or wanted Trudeau in. Emperor Justin has his mandate with less than 3 out of 10 eligible voters. That means that more than 7 out of 10 ELIGIBLE voters did NOT want the new Emperor. Everyone seems to forget the 9 million Canadians who did NOT vote. In my opinion, those voters either preferred the status quo with Mr. Harper, or they could care less who was elected. And, as for foreign funding in Canadian elections, I thought that was a NO-NO!
commented 2015-11-02 15:12:53 -0500
There were a lot of organizations trying to sway the vote in Canada. Even the unbiased Rebel gave its own opinion.
We forget that the Conservatives actually won more than 31% of the vote. And that after running a poor campaign, having a leader that looked glazed-over, and having made so many enemies over the past decade. After so much damage, there were still some veterans, some native people, and some seniors who voted Conservative. It is called democracy.
commented 2015-11-02 14:39:56 -0500
@ Darryl – I couldn’t agree more.
commented 2015-11-02 14:38:27 -0500
“The reason is obvious. We have more than one party running in an election.”

Which is also obvious why a party can win with less than 50% plus one. BTW, the last party to take a majority with over 50% was Mulroney in 82.
commented 2015-11-02 14:36:21 -0500
Of course the indians hated Harper, he made them be responsible, be accountable, show where tyhe money went. Now as any good liberal they are victims, All they want is more money, no accountibility, more corruption, more nepetism, and same old same old. It was really a close one they just about had to get there act togeather, now its back to the good old days, billions upon billions wasted, laundered, and god knows what else, all the while blaming everybody but themselves for the mess they are in. Spence was his hero , A corrupt dishonest chief ripping off the money for her and her boyfried.
commented 2015-11-02 14:36:01 -0500
William said, "I’m simply saying the Conservatives can only win by splitting the non conservative vote. "

And the Liberals can only win by splitting the Conservative vote and the NDP vote. And the NDP could only win by splitting the Liberal and Conservative vote.

The reason is obvious. We have more than one party running in an election.
commented 2015-11-02 14:31:46 -0500
Tara Risser said, “I think that anyone who allows their vote to be swayed, is a wuss.”

Not to mention not having any solid convictions.
commented 2015-11-02 14:30:33 -0500
William Wisewr said, “Harper was winning his mandate on less than 40% of the popular vote, …”
You mean just like Justin did, and just like Chretien did, and just like Paul Martin did?

Oh ,but let me guess, WIlliam, it is okay if Trudeau wins with 39.3% but not Harper with 39.62%.
commented 2015-11-02 13:45:20 -0500
Charles White, I’m simply saying the Conservatives can only win by splitting the non conservative vote. That’s why the Canadian Alliance and Progressive Conservative parties couldn’t get elected, they were splitting the right wing vote until they merged to secure all the right wing votes so they could eek out a win. If the left wing parties did the same the Conservatives would never have enough votes to form a government.
commented 2015-11-02 13:33:44 -0500
Harper was in power for 10 years so it’s not like he wasn’t given a chance. Voters had a decade of Harper governance to base their decision on and the majority of them simply didn’t want another four years of it.
commented 2015-11-02 13:28:52 -0500
William Wiser commented 8 mins ago

“Harper was winning his mandate on less than 40% of the popular vote”
And Junior is different with the results of this election in exactly what way? Or Chretien before him?

“68% of voters simply had enough of the Harper Conservatives.”
And 62% of Canadians did not want Junior as Prime Minister. The difference is what exactly?

Oh…right… I forgot…if the CPC forms government on plurality that is undemocratic by definition. When the LPC forms government on plurality that is pro-democratic by definition.
commented 2015-11-02 13:27:45 -0500
@williamwiser: When you have unions lined up against someone it is usually because they stand to benefit from it and this is the case here. They spent their money and effort to help persuade the voters that Harper was evil, mean, wasteful and giving us a bad reputation among the nations and his government full of corruption. This was driven home to the voters at every opportunity and yet the economy although could be better isn’t terrible, we are #1 in respected by other nations and the corruption that happened during his mandate was a drop in the bucket compared to the massive liberal corruption that never was paid back. But getting repeated bad press made a huge difference and having the unions working against you including the media guild who represents the “unbiased CBC” made a huge difference.
commented 2015-11-02 13:23:58 -0500
Wiser can you tell me what % the NUT BAR J.T. got.
commented 2015-11-02 13:19:18 -0500
Do you think the C.B.C. knows that G.Soros has been a communist from eastern EU.for 80 years????.
commented 2015-11-02 13:17:32 -0500
I think that anyone who allows their vote to be swayed, is a wuss.
commented 2015-11-02 13:13:45 -0500
I don’t think this election was pro-Trudeau as it was simply anti-Harper. 68% of voters simply had enough of the Harper Conservatives. Besides, this country is not a conservative country. The majority of Canadians vote centrist and left. Harper was winning his mandate on less than 40% of the popular vote, he just won because he split the other 60+% of the vote among the other parties.
commented 2015-11-02 13:07:32 -0500
It’s not totally far- fetched since Tides funded LeadNow with the same goal of ousting Harper. When confronted they will just plead ignorance until the MSM starts investigating, Unfortunately, that means never.