February 25, 2016

EXCLUSIVE: Baron Conrad Black on the UK's EU referendum (and much more!)

Faith GoldyRebel Host
 

From the conservative movement to Conservative parties at every level, the message is clear: social conservatives are not welcome.

I break down why abandoning this part of the base is bad politics, and what it means for conservative culture and Canadian history going forward.

Plus, Baron Conrad Black of Crossharbour joins me with his expert insights on what we can expect in the run up to the United Kingdom's "Brexit" referendum on whether or not to leave the European Union.

Then, your week's top headlines and quote of honour!

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commented 2016-03-16 23:35:30 -0400
Excellent show Faith. My thoughts are with England that they regain their sovereignty. When the EU political class is hell bent on destroying 1000 years of British hostory and cultural and social development, it is very sad to see. Within a generation, you see a society that has transformed dramatically, and not for the better. Just to satisfy the self-serving needs of a tiny cohort of the political class. And why? The Middle East is facing a genocide of Christians right now, but no one will acknowledge it. An Iraqi priest is begging America to recognize the ongoing genocide of Christian but it falls on deaf ears. The crisis being given priority is Syria. And the 3rd world Islamic invasion of Europe and the West continues.
commented 2016-03-04 08:23:03 -0500
Consolation: if we get PR, social conservatives can band together in their own party, get 10% of seats, and table as many losing bills as they like.
commented 2016-03-01 03:17:21 -0500
Granted the Mongols ravaged everybody except for Japan in their path, but that does not adequately explain the disparity in socio economics between the east and the west. The height of the Mongol empire was a long time ago, and it is more than enough time for societies to bounce back.
commented 2016-03-01 02:43:01 -0500
Sam Young, “The only reason the west has gotten further ahead, is because it had the luck of having technology.”
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Well, actually, the single most important event(s) in history that led the “West/Christianity” to become the dominant culture was the Mongols.

In the 12th century Genghis Khan and his army was laying total waste and destruction to everything in his path. China, Russia, and the Muslims. Brutally and totally annihilated. Muslims were so destroyed they never recovered to this day.

After raping and murdering the Muslims, the European Christians were next. There was little doubt the Mongols would destroy the Europeans. The Mongols had easily walked over any resistance they encountered in their quest for dominance.

Fortunately for us, Genghis Khan died as his armies were set to invade and destroy Europe and his armies turned back to start the process of naming a new Khan. The Mongols then started a slow decline in their power due to infighting between different factions.

Genghis weakened every other major power at the time except Europe, this enabled Christianity to gain the foothold it needed to become the dominant religion.
commented 2016-03-01 01:14:51 -0500
“The number of people that want to get assisted in their suicide is irrelevant. What is relevant, is that the people that want to go through this are given the choice. "

Only if they are suffering? If committing suicide is not immoral, why limit it only to the suffering? If we allow people to kill their unborn children for any reason, why not allow them to kill themselves for any reason?

“If a doctor is unwilling to perform a procedure, then that is fine. Not every doctor will do things like inserting breast implants, doing psychiatric assessments, or pulling out teeth. This is why they refer patients to somebody else.”

You’re talking about a different type of referral than that which is proposed for assisted suicides. You’re saying that is ok for a doctor to have the option to refer someone who wants to end his or her life to another doctor because the doctor to whom a patient has been referred is more skilled at assisting in suicide. The referral option in assisted suicide assumes that both doctors are equally skilled but that the first doctor simply doesn’t want to help the patient commit suicide. I’m asking if it is ok for a doctor to refer a patient to another doctor for help with suicide if the former doctor is just as professionally capable as the latter? If so why?

“And what do police officers have to do with this topic anyways? They are there to enforce the law, and that means turning over a person on a ledge to the hospital. "

I brought up the police officers as a demonstration of the value of human life. Presumably officers don’t try to save people because people are worthless. Human lives are valuable so it is immoral not to try to protect them.
commented 2016-02-29 02:21:51 -0500
Why do you keep insisting that I have been influenced by the mainstream media? I am fully capable of making up my mind without relying on the news. The video I mentioned was produced by the rebel, and the person who was in the video was none other than the rebel’s very own Brian Lilley.

The number of people that want to get assisted in their suicide is irrelevant. What is relevant, is that the people that want to go through this are given the choice.

If a doctor is unwilling to perform a procedure, then that is fine. Not every doctor will do things like inserting breast implants, doing psychiatric assessments, or pulling out teeth. This is why they refer patients to somebody else.

And what do police officers have to do with this topic anyways? They are there to enforce the law, and that means turning over a person on a ledge to the hospital.

And hospitals, in case you have not noticed, are big expensive buildings. Not any one person can afford to build one or to operate one. This is why hospitals were put there by charities or churches, such as the Salvation Army. Before government got involved, the health of society was taken care of by organizations that were not a part of the government.

I don’t even know why you keep bringing up how hospitals are a christian construct. I am not going to debate with you over the history, or why religious organizations were involved in hospitals. Just because you identify as a christian, does not mean you are responsible for hospitals. This means you do not get to take credit for the work of people you identify with. Furthermore, you do not get to flaunt your religion around like it is supposed to dictate my opinion on social issues
commented 2016-02-28 22:37:02 -0500
Sam Young said: "The reason why people and society feel the way they do about suicide, is because people have a hard time grappling with death. People think of death as the last resort. Maybe it is because of some faint hope they have, or they are just uncomfortable with death. Whatever the case, it does not mean suicide is immoral and should be unlawful. If a physician is willing to help a suffering patient commit suicide, then I see nothing wrong with it. "

So what if people have a hard time grappling with death? Forcing someone to help you commit it is now a constitutional right in Canada. Are people going to be allowed to have their rights denied just because a physician feels uncomfortable?
commented 2016-02-28 22:35:33 -0500
Sam, I would suggest you study a little history. Village medicine men do not constitute hospitals and even then, their services were not available to just anyone. The first hospitals were started by churches. That was the case even in Canada. Pagan societies were often brutal and rough.
Like I said Sam, in the real world only a miniscule amount of people want to die. Your liberal media has found the outliers and blown them their situations for coverage.
commented 2016-02-28 21:41:55 -0500
Sam Young said: "If a physician is willing to help a suffering patient commit suicide, then I see nothing wrong with it. "

Honestly, if committing suicide is not immoral, why limit it to a suffering patient? And what if a physician is unwilling to help some one commit suicide? Is it wrong for a police officer to tell a suicidal individual to jump?
commented 2016-02-28 21:41:54 -0500
Sam Young said: "If a physician is willing to help a suffering patient commit suicide, then I see nothing wrong with it. "

Honestly, if committing suicide is not immoral, why limit it to a suffering patient? And what if a physician is unwilling to help some one commit suicide? Is it wrong for a police officer to tell a suicidal individual to jump?
commented 2016-02-28 20:07:33 -0500
There is pain, and there is suffering. Just because somebody is suffering, does not mean that they are in physical pain. A person who needs a machine to breathe, and needs somebody to wipe their ass, may not be in pain. But they sure are suffering.

Christians do not own the ideas of community healing centers or hospitals. All societies had their healers or equivalent of doctors before christians went and colonized the world. So get off your high horse, because you sure as hell are not mother Theresa. Furthermore, there are hospitals and clinics out there that are secular, and seem to be functionally no worse because there is no jesus.

The reason why people and society feel the way they do about suicide, is because people have a hard time grappling with death. People think of death as the last resort. Maybe it is because of some faint hope they have, or they are just uncomfortable with death. Whatever the case, it does not mean suicide is immoral and should be unlawful. If a physician is willing to help a suffering patient commit suicide, then I see nothing wrong with it. Where I do see an issue, is when people that have nothing to do with the process try to intervene with their religious beliefs.
commented 2016-02-28 17:23:31 -0500
Sam, the whole idea of hospitals and caring for the sick, inferm, and elderly are Christian concepts. Without Christianity there would be no hospitals. With suffering, where are all the people suffering? As I said, my wife who works as a nurse says that extreme pain and suffering are non-existent with 21st century pain management. She only can tell of one case of an elderly patient who wanted suicide. However, he was in perfect physical health but was suffering from depression. I suspect we already know about each “suffering” patient who wanted an doctor-assisted death. That’s because each received extensive liberal mainstream media coverage.
commented 2016-02-28 15:54:59 -0500
Stupid Christians trying to force people to do things that they don’t want to do! Doctors should be forced to help me commit suicide if I want.
commented 2016-02-28 15:45:50 -0500
By the way, eff the Bible. Human dignity shmignity. Our suicide filled future is bright.
commented 2016-02-28 15:40:55 -0500
Sam Young said: “The point is, there are people that are suffering, and want the option to have a physician assisted suicide. It is the choice of these people, and not anybody else.”

What about the physicians Sam?

If there is nothing morally wrong with committing suicide or helping a person to commit suicide why give doctors the option to refer a patient?

If there is nothing morally wrong with committing suicide or helping a person to commit suicide why all this talk about having safeguards? Why make it available only to the suffering? What if a bored person and a physician agree? Why not let that physician help that person commit suicide? What business is it of anyone else?

If there is nothing morally wrong with committing suicide or helping a person to commit suicide why do police talk a person off of a bridge or the ledge of a building instead of egging them on? Is it to deliver them into the hands of a willing physician so that they can commit suicide in a “less messy” way?

Committing suicide is immoral and helping someone commit suicide is also immoral. Forcing someone to help someone commit suicide is even more immoral. This is now a constitutional right in Canada. If we really going down this path, let us do it with eyes wide open. In Canada, a person now has the constitutional right to force another person to help them commit an immoral act. Period. How will this principle of having the constitutional right to force another person to help someone commit an immoral act be applied to other situations? I’m sure Liberals, socialists, and timid conservatives will waste no time in helping us all find out.
commented 2016-02-28 01:34:19 -0500
The Liberal media is not what I am basing my opinion on. The point is, there are people that are suffering, and want the option to have a physician assisted suicide. It is the choice of these people, and not anybody else.

The reason why the church was involved in running hospitals, was because back then, there was hardly any form of a social security net paid by tax dollars. Some churches thought it would be beneficial to society to help out by running hospitals and other charities. Considering the times, it was most logical and easiest for the religious community to do the work of helping people.

This does not mean that churches or synagogues own the concepts of charity or morality. You do not have to be a religious person in order to do good things for other people.

I know this. If I drove into a moose and broke my neck, I would probably want to be dead instead of living the rest of my life as a quadriplegic. Brian has a video on this where he interviews Steven Fletcher. It is worth watching.
commented 2016-02-28 00:57:23 -0500
Good show by the way keep it up Faith
commented 2016-02-28 00:52:14 -0500
Sam, don’t buy into the liberal media propaganda about an epidemic of long painful deaths. People have endured with pain, suffering, and death since the beginning. Now in the 21 century we have come a long way in pain relief. My wife works as a nurse in long term care and with modern pain management she has not experienced patients with unbearable pain. Also, with the many patients she has served, she has only encountered one who wanted to die so again please don’t buy the liberal media’s lies about assisted suicide being a sought after service.
Different societies/cultures have different sources of morality. The basis of morality in the west is Judeo-Christian. This can be seen everywhere in the structure and makeup of western societies.
Computers, smart phones, and TV don’t make up a civilization. Those can be found throughout the world. Hospitals were started by Christians as houses of hospitality where those who were sick or wounded could receive care. Many atheists say they do not believe but like others to behave like they believe. They like people to be honest, to be kind, not cheat or steal. As Canada has far drifted from its roots and is drifting further they will experience what kind of society we will have with the absence of religious morality.
commented 2016-02-28 00:25:49 -0500
Sam Young
I believe what ever floats your boat if it works for you that’s fine what ever people need a god for that’s fine too
My self I think in order for their to be a benefited religion they should have to produce a god no religion has ever done that no one has ever seen one only talked about them and the holy books are simply the words of men and religion has been the largest source of pain suffering death destruction and war in the history of this planet

yet if someone wants to believe that’s up to them
commented 2016-02-27 20:33:30 -0500
If you wish that there is no euthanasia, then that applies to you as well. So when you are on your death bed, painfully dying away with no option to exit early, it will be because people like you have brought it upon yourself.

The source of morality is one that many people can not totally agree on. But in the context of doctor assisted suicide, it has nothing to do with anybody else besides yourself.

And spare me the whole west is dying because of people that neither identify as jews or christians. This is just bigotry talking. The only reason the west has gotten further ahead, is because it had the luck of having technology. Things like hospitals and universities do not magically go away without the star or the cross. You are just fear mongering and applauding yourself for your beliefs. The It was not too long ago when christians and their supremacy shoved their crosses up the asses of the natives to civilize them. Look at how well that went. Now it will be my tax dollars that go to things like truth and reconciliation.
commented 2016-02-27 15:03:16 -0500
Sam Young, the whole topic about faith and existence of God is a complex and extensive one. Looking through your comments you have not been able to articulate any position but name calling and insults. Religious faith is the most important foundation of a civilization. Compare a Judeo-Christian civilization to an Islamic one, a Hindu one, or a Buddhist one and the differences are evident. The whole great idea of loving your neighbor as yourself, caring for the well being of others, fair treatment of everyone, forgiveness are wholly Judeo-Christian concepts. It is not surprising that through these the west was the first civilization to develop hospitals, universities, proper education, etc. The west is in the midst of abandoning these foundations and many speculate that if kept on this course the west will die. Small-minded low-intelligence people like yourself are good examples of where we are headed. Wishing people a slow painful death is indicative of a very sick mind.
commented 2016-02-27 12:56:28 -0500
Sam Young commented – "Morality is what you do to others.

Morality is how you conduct YOURSELF in relation to others. The original immorality is forcing someone to do something against their will – the golden rule as it were or the ethic of empathic or responsive reciprocity; "What you wish upon others, you wish upon yourself " in that regard, the highest moral calling is to leave others to themselves unless your interest/opinion/advice/help is requested – all legitimate law is based upon it.

Morality is internal, not an external force
commented 2016-02-27 04:06:40 -0500
You want me to STFU? Hate to break it to you, but the rebel is the place to go to for freedom of speech. Fuck your bible. Your religious beliefs hold nothing over me.

Morality is what you do to others. It is not about how you treat yourself, especially if it does not affect others. If somebody wants to get doctor assisted suicide, then it is their choice. Anybody that protests this choice is an intrusive asshole. I hope that when it is your turn to die, that you die slowly and painfully, but most importantly, without the option to end it early.

I said it before, and I will say it again. Faith is just an actress playing the role of an extreme right winger. Don’t treat her like she is the voice of reason.
commented 2016-02-27 01:50:15 -0500
Sam. Every law we have is an attempt to make people behave morally however that is defined. All laws are someone sticking their nose into someone else’s business. Anything else is anarchy. The question is just who is going to be successful in doing so. “There was no king in Israel. Everyone did what was right in his own eyes”. This was not a statement of liberation or freedom. It explained the moral decline of Israel and why they went into exile.
commented 2016-02-27 00:57:22 -0500
300 abortions in Canada every day.
3000 abortions in USA every day.
125,000 abortions in the world every day.

In direct defiance of God’s instructions, ancient Israel had adopted barbaric pagan practices of child killing! In response, the prophet Jeremiah warned: “Also on your skirts is found the blood of the lives of the poor innocents… Behold, I will bring such a catastrophe on this place, that whoever hears of it, his ears will tingle, because they have forsaken Me… therefore behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, that this place shall no more be called Tophet or the Valley of the Son of Hinnom [where children were sacrificed], but the Valley of Slaughter [when God uses foreign nations to punish His people for killing their own children]” (see Jeremiah 2:34; 19:3–7). These passages reveal how God views the slaughter of children, whether they are infants or unborn babies! – See more at: http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/magazines/2005/march-april/abortion-a-modern-holocaust#sthash.0zl7LQlF.dpuf

Modern “ethicists” like Peter Singer of Princeton University have offered arguments that an unborn fetus is less than human. This idea is not new; it was common to many ancient pagan philosophers as well. However, this approach is clearly refuted in the Bible. God told Jeremiah: “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you; before you were born I sanctified you; I ordained you a prophet to the nations” (Jeremiah 1:5). An angel told Zacharias, father of John the Baptist, that John would “also be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother’s womb” (Luke 1:15). The Bible reveals that God regards unborn babies as human beings, and that killing human infants, born or unborn, will incur the wrath of Almighty God! Our modern secular society has forgotten these powerful warnings! – See more at: http://www.tomorrowsworld.org/magazines/2005/march-april/abortion-a-modern-holocaust#sthash.0zl7LQlF.dpuf

Is it any wonder we are in trouble?
commented 2016-02-27 00:21:01 -0500
Faith, you have a difficult time understanding pragmatic libertarianism – Most of the ideological Libertarians (like Dr. Paul) feel that a mother’s decision to kill a baby ends the moment it becomes a citizen whose life the government must protect – the only debate is at what point human consciousness enters a fetus making it a citizen – of course the left don’t even want to debate that issue because they are obsessed with the state presiding over the death of its citizens

As a Libertarian I can tell you I abandoned the CPC at the policy convention when the red Tory block from the East voted to not abolish late term and induced birth abortions.
commented 2016-02-26 22:25:04 -0500
Sam Young commented 2 hours ago
Why would you stand in the way of euthanasia? It does not affect you, or anybody else.

Wanting to stick your nose into this, is even worse than trying to stop abortion. Faith, you are a textbook example of what is wrong with social conservatives. Constantly having to tell people how to live their lives. You do not have a say over anybody else, but you think it is your right to dictate the rules for others.

Sam Young, as usual speaks before he thinks. I haven’t even seen the video yet but I can answer his question and address his problem with four words. You shall not murder, Commandment 6. This applies to euthanasia and abortion.

Faith Goldy has been hired to provide commentary and analysis on current events and social issues. Sam, if you don’t like the content you are not forced to view or read it. What I am trying to say Sam is STFU.
commented 2016-02-26 20:31:49 -0500
Why would you stand in the way of euthanasia? It does not affect you, or anybody else.

Wanting to stick your nose into this, is even worse than trying to stop abortion. Faith, you are a textbook example of what is wrong with social conservatives. Constantly having to tell people how to live their lives. You do not have a say over anybody else, but you think it is your right to dictate the rules for others.
commented 2016-02-26 19:41:53 -0500
“…a cold day in hell when we ever allow them to control government again.”

I love this toothless pseudo-alpha proclamation. It’s rife with arrogance as if you and your ilk decide the outcomes of election. The people decide the outcome, despite your moral high horse and thinly-veiled superiority complex.

You really aren’t good at math are you? Liberals got 39.5% of a vote which was largely carried out by strategic voting—i.e. voters who didn’t necessarily want to vote Liberal, but chose to do so to remove the Conservatives, specifically Harper. If you think taxing the country to stagflation is going to get Trudeau more support, you really must be daft or smoking something really good.

As for “cons”—many people you identify as conservatives are actually classical liberals; but since lefty-progressives have co-opted the term “liberal” to identify with their identity politics and nanny state agendas, along with the decay of free speech in the name of protecting peoples feelings , many now align with conservatives.
commented 2016-02-26 17:49:52 -0500
LAD REME

The very country Dizzy Levant is visiting right now Lad, Sweden.