September 15, 2016

“Canadian values” debate pits nation’s elites against ordinary citizens

Rebel Staff
 

Broadcaster Jerry Agar sits in again for Ezra Levant tonight. Here's an except from Jerry's monologue:

I was in a TV debate about screening immigrants for “Canadian value”, on a panel with one person from the Liberal party perspective and one from the NDP.

The Liberal argued that we already have laws against honor killings and so on, so therefore it's wrong to screen people and jail them for their beliefs.

Of course, no one is talking about jailing them. We are talking about not letting them in.

Yes, we already have laws. And those laws are based on… Canadian values.

Then the NDP representative actually called those who are in favour of the screening of having “stone aged thinking."

Except that it is stone aged thinking we are trying to overcome.

The good news is that if the NDP wants to go around calling the majority of the public a bunch of ignorant cave people, we won’t have to worry about them winning a federal election any time soon...

Veteran Sun columnist Mark Bonokoski joins Jerry to talk about some more about Kellie Leitch and “Canadian values.”

(PS: If you believe immigrants should be screened for Canadian values, sign our petition at OurValues.ca)

Then Breitbart’s Joel Pollak comes on to discuss the latest developments in the US presidential campaign, including the speculation about Hillary's health.

FINALLY: Jerry winds up with his thoughts on Black Lives Matter.

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commented 2016-09-20 20:07:36 -0400
All the idiot lefties want canada to become like France and the rest of europe.
commented 2016-09-17 03:00:44 -0400
The likes of Stephenson, Penson, Kelly and any other of you anti Canadian shit disturbers, if the right takes over in a strong way and reclaims this country. All of you will be removed and taken to one of those friendly Muslim countries you like so much and left there. And you can enjoy their company instead of all us Canadian Trolls that you repeatedly criticize. Watch what happens if you criticize anything on their turf. You Will come to the realization that we are all right about the Muslims. The question is at what point will you realize it ? As the knife is being dragged across your Traitorous Neck, will you realize we were right, before or after you Piss and Shit your pants.
commented 2016-09-17 02:17:55 -0400
Cameron i doubt you could pass a grade 3 math test. You are such a putz.
commented 2016-09-17 02:17:08 -0400
Andrew Christians are not taking rights away the secular left is and Justin is an elite , he is not successful at life, he rode his dads coattails. So spare me the BS.
commented 2016-09-17 00:30:52 -0400
I bet 80% of the rebel people can’t pass the test. It’s pathetic that you consider this morals.
commented 2016-09-16 22:00:04 -0400
Secularism is a Canadian value.

Deport all the religious whackos, including the Christian ones, who want to take away basic rights of self-determination because of their anachronistic fables!
commented 2016-09-16 21:50:22 -0400
Sean Short, you may have something there!
commented 2016-09-16 20:33:32 -0400
The only question I want added to the immigration questionnaire is do you accept Canadian law over any other? If the answer is yes,then any CRIMINAL activity for the next 10 years gets them deported. I have no confidence in Trudeau do you?
commented 2016-09-16 20:30:42 -0400
David White said, "@peter N…… I can hardly wait to hear Penson’s reply…….oh…….there it is………..crickets"

Still crickets.

He is not able to answer the question.

But even if he did have the intelligence to answer the only even remotely intelligent response, “We have laws to deal with murder.”, that response is not valid.

I have heard some people say that. It is true that we have laws to deal with the crime, but here is the crux of it … the Canadian that might be killed by the immigrant that believes killing infidels is okay … that/those Canadian(s) is/are still dead. Okay, the immigrant goes to jail for killing one of more Canadians (well, maybe goes to jail), the Canadian or Canadians are still dead. If we do not invite that type of person into Canada, Canadians will not die from an illegal act from that immigrant.

So all that to say that the defence, “We have laws to deal with that.” is no defence at all.
commented 2016-09-16 19:18:12 -0400
Andre Lauzon.I think we should give up on finding the right people to run for office. The only people who want to run are mostly not fit to hold office. That’s why they want to run.

I think we should appoint people to Government a la jury duty. There would be no more virtue signalling because it wouldn’t get any one elected. Think how much money would be saved by having no elections. There would be no more currying favour with special interest groups because there would be no more payback for voting. Just imagine the unions having no sway with government anymore.

It couldn’t be any worse than what we have now, that’s for sure. I suspect it would be a whole lot better. I’d like to try it for 4 or 5 years and see how it works.
commented 2016-09-16 17:33:00 -0400
@peter N…… I can hardly wait to hear Penson’s reply…….oh…….there it is………..crickets
commented 2016-09-16 14:34:35 -0400
Sean Penson said (4 hours ago), "Peter Netterv, forcing people to accept any set of values is not only unethical, it’s very UN-Canadian. "

So let me pose a situation for you.

Caveat: I can safely say, and the majority Canadians I believe at least would agree, that it is a Canadian value that murder is wrong.
  • It is considered a value by some Muslims that killing an infidel (one who does not believe and hold to the Islamic ideology) is acceptable.
  • It is also considered by some Muslims that honour killing is an acceptable practice.


Question for you: Should those people that consider those practices to be okay be accepted into Canada? And if so, why?
commented 2016-09-16 13:22:30 -0400
The Canadian elite: Those in positions of power and influence that would do ANYTHING to maintain the aforementioned, including the wholesale destruction of the country, subverting it’s values and institutions, all at the cost of the “rest of us” – the great unwashed who may not have access to said power and influence. We are supposed to be in a liberal democracy, but the democracy part would seem to be eroding at an ever increasing rate.

They like to give the words “populism” and “nationalism” an evil connotation. Think about it. Populism = popular = the will of the people. Nationalism = pride in and defense of your nation above all others.

Sound like pretty positive and worthy ideas to me.
commented 2016-09-16 12:17:50 -0400
Elitists and “canadian values”, hmm?

Just how many ways are you going to try and split things with these increasingly ridiculous identity politics. Who are the Canadian Elite anyway, the people who are successful at life? This is not the first time we’ve seen the Right trying to turn failure into a virtue (after all, the perpetual victim act doesn’t work if you’re not a victim of something).

Identity poltiics are anti-Canadian. Deport!
commented 2016-09-16 11:13:33 -0400
For fuck sakes PENSON, did you get into Jay’s acid stash as well? What a misguided tool you must be.
commented 2016-09-16 11:09:15 -0400
@ SUSAN ASHBROOK…(excellent post)….I have stated the same thing several times and I wish this would be shoved down the liberals throats. Junior and the walking hiccup McCallum were caught with the phony lie that the first wave of Justin’s liberal voting guests came from the camps. Where are the ass kissing cbc and the rest of the msm? While the Yazzidis, Coptics and other legitimate refugees were and are being beheaded, butchered and trampled by the savages, the spin doctors here tried to sugar coat their lies but got CAUGHT. WHERE IS THE PRESS???

Last night during a late night channel surf, I stumbled across CPAC. There was an interview at the big Global Initiative conference in Montreal. There was JT, London mayor Khan, and a female moderator. You should all try to see a replay of this event. It would present a good opportunity to pull your hair out, and then go bang your heads against the wall. TRULY SICKENING. Trudope was on one of his gold star stammering diatribes, talking incessantly and saying nothing. It really was embarrassing, and all the while Khan was stroking junior’s dick and babbling leftist propaganda. The moderator tried to ask some decent questions but Trudope’s responses were nothing short of his usual garbage, and by the time he was done he was off on such a tangent that the original questions were never answered. It was beyond pathetic and I urge you all to try and watch this debacle.

@ JAY KELLY…Must be the “brown” acid today. Please seek help.

@sean PENSON…. Why did your god junior lie about where almost all of the first 25,000 imports came from????

DJBT and the sick-o-phants
commented 2016-09-16 11:09:15 -0400
@ SUSAN ASHBROOK…(excellent post)….I have stated the same thing several times and I wish this would be shoved down the liberals throats. Junior and the walking hiccup McCallum were caught with the phony lie that the first wave of Justin’s liberal voting guests came from the camps. Where are the ass kissing cbc and the rest of the msm? While the Yazzidis, Coptics and other legitimate refugees were and are being beheaded, butchered and trampled by the savages, the spin doctors here tried to sugar coat their lies but got CAUGHT. WHERE IS THE PRESS???

Last night during a late night channel surf, I stumbled across CPAC. There was an interview at the big Global Initiative conference in Montreal. There was JT, London mayor Khan, and a female moderator. You should all try to see a replay of this event. It would present a good opportunity to pull your hair out, and then go bang your heads against the wall. TRULY SICKENING. Trudope was on one of his gold star stammering diatribes, talking incessantly and saying nothing. It really was embarrassing, and all the while Khan was stroking junior’s dick and babbling leftist propaganda. The moderator tried to ask some decent questions but Trudope’s responses were nothing short of his usual garbage, and by the time he was done he was off on such a tangent that the original questions were never answered. It was beyond pathetic and I urge you all to try and watch this debacle.

@ JAY KELLY…Must be the “brown” acid today. Please seek help.

@sean PENSON…. Why did your god junior lie about where almost all of the first 25,000 imports came from????

DJBT and the sick-o-phants
commented 2016-09-16 10:14:15 -0400
Peter Netterv, forcing people to accept any set of values is not only unethical, it’s very UN-Canadian.

We do not want the government dictating which religion is better than any other, and whether or not it’s wrong to have any such opinions based on religion.

Muslim immigrants should be let in, unhindered and unmolested. It is not the government’s responsibility to screen any people we don’t like.
commented 2016-09-16 09:42:26 -0400
Sean Penson said, “What the far right is espousing is anti-Canadianisms.”

So, let me see if I understand you correctly.

Are you saying that when those you call the “far right” say that immigrants need to be screened for whether they agree with and will follow Canadian values, those “far right” are anti-Canadian?

Do you even understand how contradictory and utterly stupid your statement is?
commented 2016-09-16 09:34:27 -0400
Hit post to quickly: Those criticizing Leitch’s immigration survey include Jason Kenney and former PM Brian Mulroney.
commented 2016-09-16 09:34:24 -0400
Good comment,Susan Ashbrook.
commented 2016-09-16 09:33:30 -0400
Jay Kelly said, "Canadian Values: Imagine if we were to write it down. "

They are written down. They are enshrined in our Constitution, Charter of Rights and Freedoms and in our laws, to name a few.
commented 2016-09-16 09:32:38 -0400
Those criticizing Leitch’s include Jason Kenney and former PM Brian Mulroney.
commented 2016-09-16 08:22:42 -0400
I saw a statistic from the United States perhaps on The Rebel and some 97% of immigrants who came to the States in the last few years are on welfare. The immigration of the last 15 years will bankrupt the western countries. Because they
dont speak any of the 2 official languages and they have NO SKILLS. The schooling for a lot of them is not even grade 7. Insane!!!!!
commented 2016-09-16 08:22:02 -0400
The part of all this is that the CPC’s own leadership is attacking Canadian values. See. The CINOs are everywhere.

If there was any greater need to clean house, now is the time.
commented 2016-09-16 04:08:46 -0400
Being Intolerant of the Intolerant is not Racism. Being Intolerant of of Refugees and Immigrants that are nothing more than Parasites is not Racism. Being Intolerant of a Violent, Depraved, Savage, Evil Ideology is not Racism. And what’s deplorable is Sean’s Traitorous stand against Canada and its people, a free and safe country, but not for long if Sean’s ilk have anything to do with it. As his kind won’t be happy until we are enslaved by our invaders.
commented 2016-09-16 03:47:12 -0400
Only deplorables would dare stand up for racist, Islamaphobic anti-immigrant values.

What the far right is espousing is anti-Canadianisms.
commented 2016-09-16 03:05:22 -0400
Drew, that statement about, “leaving the rest of us free to act” and “coming for you”, I totally agree with. I do believe that when the time comes in a state of anarchy that it would be fair to hunt down those that have betrayed us and deal with them most sternly.
commented 2016-09-16 01:42:07 -0400
Strange how the ELITES all embrace the same values . Doesn’t matter what Country or Continent.
They are all Helping the Poor by taxing them more. Slic talk and tic toc——is done.
Islam is going to destroy us and they don’t even fucking see it. It is Crazy.