May 14, 2016

For progressives, “zero-tolerance” only applies to straight-A students, not murderers, pedophiles

David MenziesMission Specialist

I waited to rant about the infuriating case of honour student Shawn Soucy’s expulsion from school, hoping that sanity would prevail and Quebec’s Riverside School Board would reverse its decision, but no such luck.

The 16-year-old student from Heritage Regional High School in St. Hubert was expelled midway through his final year after accidentally leaving a small pocketknife in his backpack following morning chores on the family farm.

Despite his explanation, educrats stuck to their decision based on “zero tolerance” policy -- meaning, “common sense” need not apply.

In addition to getting expelled, Shawn and his mom were also barred from the student trip to Europe costing them $1,400 in cancellation fees. I guess the school board considered them potential terrorists, what with that pocketknife and all.

This is beyond stupid.

Suspending Shawn didn’t make the school safer, because the school was never in danger.

Have you noticed how school board progressives cling to zero-tolerance rules with no leeway for even good students, yet people of the same political ilk go apoplectic when it comes to mandatory minimum sentences in the criminal justice system?

Last month, the Supreme Court ruled mandatory minimums for repeat drug traffickers unconstitutional. So much for the Truth in Sentencing Act implemented by the Harper Conservatives, the tough on crime legislation now being dismantled by the judiciary.

And so, in Shawn’s case we have another example of how zero tolerance makes zero sense, and how so many of the people we entrust to teach our children are just so damn stupid.

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commented 2016-05-15 21:14:09 -0400
Keith Richards commented: “quebec is run by mafia backed unions and their librano lapdogs”.

Exactly. Do you remember in 2014 when Montreal firemen trashed City Hall over Bill 3 (4 Billion Dollar Deficit) and their pension plan?

They paraded through City Hall hooting and hollering and trying to break down door. They sprayed everything with water and left a total disaster. I can only imagine what the cleaning personnel who probably make a fraction of their wage had to contend with.

Also notable, the police who were also affected by Bill 3 – whose station was close to City Hall DID NOT RESPOND to the protest.

There are people now who don’t bother calling police anymore because by the time they get there it is too late. Sad but true.
commented 2016-05-15 17:46:57 -0400
I used to play baseball after school and I kept my gear in my locker. Does a baseball bat get you expelled now?

We’re up Shite’s Creek and the paddle floated away a while ago.

Also, Menzies’ Mexican accent? lol
commented 2016-05-15 15:50:56 -0400
Zero tolerance, whether advocated by `the right` for court sentences or by `the left` for school expulsions or workplace behaviour, is a ridiculous concept. It forces a black and white template of measurement on the grey circumstances of human life.
commented 2016-05-15 13:08:14 -0400
David Menzies is also correct in his statement that the “Zero Tolerance” applies to the Straight A students and not the mirderers and pedophiles. It was the same when I went to school 50 years ago. There was always one teacher who liked to look down girls shirts and rub up against them. For those who didn’t put up with his creepy advances, they would see it in their grades/marks.
Kids have come to me and told
Me it is still happening. There is a pervert teacher who is doing that who teaches a second language. It just takes one bad apple, to
Spoil the batch.
commented 2016-05-15 11:05:08 -0400
Another show of the stupidity of this invention , the “school board” who are a government of non-elected bureaucrats, thanks nanny state, imagine if he’d had been caught with a peanut butter spread on his toast ????
commented 2016-05-15 10:21:10 -0400
Peter Netterville – it is truly uncanny how accurate that is. I’ve almost completed reading the Bible, and it really is the greatest story ever told, and it is coming to conclusion in our lifetime. I am so glad that it is true! There are three things that move human beings, and they are beauty, truth and goodness. The world is falling under evil, which is destruction of everything that God made. The only thing that will save us is our faith. It seems so simple, but it tests you to your core. The narrow road is indeed the way to go!
This persecution of Shawn, by being held to a higher standard, is just the continued assault on our rights and freedoms. They show no mercy, so should be shown no mercy in return.
commented 2016-05-15 10:13:59 -0400
Yet Sikhs are allowed to to carry their ‘kirpans’ (knives) on them using that it is a religious requirement. Christians can’t use their faith however for just about anything. Including being forced to go against their conscience.

A friend has a daughter in grade 7. Her teacher found a hotel sample of conditioner and shampoo. the “teacher” went through her daughter’s backpack and accuse her of being a thief in front of her classmates. Totally gave her a public humiliation.

And this is who we trust our children with?
commented 2016-05-15 10:08:07 -0400
We see this type of zero intelligence behavior all across the Western World. I had hoped that Canada would be exempt but it is not the case. The only option is to move to a district where there are still some sanity but it may be difficult for most of us. Being truant is usually a serious thing but when the system forces on you it is, somehow, O.K.
commented 2016-05-15 08:35:37 -0400
I agree with Joe Boudreault who said, “David, it’s the times we live in where Isaiah 5:20 is being implemented full tilt.”

Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,
who put darkness for light and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Isaiah 5:20 (NIV)

That does describe the leftists/socialists precisely, does it not?
commented 2016-05-15 02:48:20 -0400
What a disgrace the way Shawn has been treated. This sick injustice has to be reversed, or Canada can now be officially listed as a third world human rights abuser. Hey, authorities: strap on some brains and reinstate Shawn now!
commented 2016-05-15 02:31:49 -0400
Jay Kelly when the hell did the Conservatives say that you moron?
commented 2016-05-15 02:11:39 -0400
David, you hit the nail on the head. Careful how we handle the little thugs but make sure that Shawn gets punished for absolutely nothing. Why are these people allowed to teach children when it’s quite obvious that they cannot differentiate right from wrong & therefore are steering those kids in the wrong direction. Again, no common sense or apathy, they’re acting like gang leaders.
commented 2016-05-15 00:33:03 -0400
Stop trusting schools. If you have the financial ability, homeschool your kids. You can ensure that they know how to garden, cook, woodwork, start a business, manage a budget, and provide moral instruction. These are all things public schools do way too late or not at all. I’ll bet 90% of kids would be willing to live in a smaller house and ride in older cars to make this a reality. Try it, that’s how I’m going to parent, and the test results back me up.
commented 2016-05-15 00:21:45 -0400
Maurice Potvin, the youngster went to school with weapon — a pocket-knife concealed in his bag. Stephen Harper’s government was clear that a child of this sort should be punished, and that there should be a minimum sentence.

You and I know, and common sense tells us, that there was no crime committed.

Conservatives have to face up to the issue.

The Conservatives were clear. How would you treat the child?
commented 2016-05-15 00:08:28 -0400
Jay Kelly, your analysis of the circumstances of this case, and your conclusion as to where the blame lies, is not supported by any of the evidence, therefore your post is logically incoherent. The school board’s actions were ludicrous and mean-spirited, or at the very least insensitive and callous, But to place the blame on “right-wingers” and Harper is idiotic. Also, the statement, “Stephen Harper proposed that such kids be imprisoned for years” is a bare faced lie.
commented 2016-05-14 23:32:47 -0400
Some did indeed claim that there should be minimum sentencing laws. Young people charged with a weapons offence or a drug offence should be given their what-fors: a minimum sentence.

Young people who commit the crime should do the time.

Then the young lad goes to school with his pocket knife that he uses for chores and ignorant right-wingers are all up in arms: throw him in prison and throw away the key. Stephen Harper proposed that such kids be imprisoned for years.

The kid is a human being.
commented 2016-05-14 19:19:17 -0400
Cameron Robock said " Progressive has nothing to be used in this statement", And then he said “Progressive government in a basic understand is flexible to the situation and future”. Obviously. English probably isn’t your first language, Cameron. If that’s the case, I don’t criticize you for that, but perhaps you should master the language yourself before telling the rest of us how to use it.
commented 2016-05-14 18:57:41 -0400
Zero tolerance. A very conservative policy. Or a very liberal policy. Progressive has nothing to be used in this statement. Progressive government in a basic understand is flexible to the situation and future. So use the words correctly. A proper progressive Conservative or progressive liberal party would and should never back zero tolerance.
commented 2016-05-14 18:22:54 -0400
That should read “They’re stupidly TRYING to clean the mess THEY created”. Man, I sure wish we could got back and correct our posts!
commented 2016-05-14 18:19:35 -0400
Canadian Mongrel, I too am of that generation. Pretty much every boy in grade school had a pocket knife. They were not weapons, they were tools for making things…. like whistles from willow branches, or pretend weapons, like carving a branch into the shape of a gun, a pointy spear or a sling shot (we got in trouble for the sling shot), or cutting branches to make a fort. Interestingly enough, we weren’t the generation that had ever even heard of school shootings. There may have been some bullying going on, but the most it ever amounted to was a dust-up between two protagonists behind the gym after school. And both protagonists adhered to the unwritten rules; you never hit some when they’re down and it’s over when one says “I give”. These progressives are attempting to close the barn door after the horse is gone. They’re stupidly to clean the mess THEY created, and it’s the bubble wrapped children who suffer for it.
commented 2016-05-14 15:17:16 -0400
because the school board don’t have common sense at all! school boards are becoming ill nowadays just to be different! this student should file a case against the school board!
commented 2016-05-14 14:12:10 -0400
Henry, I remember the third example you posted. Completely ridiculous. I wonder what would have happened if he had a legally owned and registered gun all locked up properly.
commented 2016-05-14 13:29:00 -0400
School authorities are absolutely insane with their safe schools policies. I remember three different examples, two from the US and one from Kitchener Ontario, that illustrate this pretty well.

1. I read an article about an American high school senior who was one of the top students in her school, possibly the valedictorian. She’d never been in any trouble with anyone, at school or anywhere else. Their school allowed students to submit any photo they liked for their yearbook graduation photo and, since she had already decided to do a tour in the military, she went down to her local National Guard office and had someone take a picture of her beside an armoured personnel carrier. When she submitted the photo, the school went ballistic and declared it was an infringement of their “no guns” policy even though it was only a picture of an armed vehicle, not an actual weapon. I think she was expelled from the school, just weeks from graduation.

2. A much younger student in a US elementary school got into big trouble under the “no guns” policy when he chewed a Pop Tart into the rough shape of a gun. I believe he was suspended for a WEEK.

3. I read about a case in Kitchener Ontario a couple of years back where pre-kindergarten kids were assigned to draw a picture, then explain the picture to the class. One little girl drew a picture and when she explained what it was, told the class that it was a picture of her daddy killing monsters with his “monster gun”. The teacher went into a frenzy and took the matter to the principal. They both had conniptions worrying that the father might have a real gun in the house and called the police and the child welfare authorities. The mother and the families were rounded up and questioned intensively for several hours. The police arrested the father and did a full search of his home and person – including a cavity search! – looking for the “monster gun”. The only “gun” they found after a thorough search was a little plastic one that fired popcorn or something similar. Afterwards, when it was clear that the original picture was about a father playing with his kids and pretending to shoot at imaginary monsters with this popcorn gun, the ONLY apology the family got was an admission by the police that, in hindsight, the cavity search might have been a little over the top. They said they would have no hesitation in doing everything else again exactly the same way under the same circumstances. The father said he almost lost his kids over this massive overreaction, not to mention the indignity of having his rectum probed, and was disgusted that the whole incident had happened at all over the word of a three year old.
commented 2016-05-14 12:16:00 -0400
White farmer with no previous record. Buff said. Where’s the petition?
commented 2016-05-14 12:14:55 -0400
The dogma of Marxism abounds, the people who run our education system are controlled by the brain washing that they received when they were kids and these dumbed down cucks are to stupid to realize that their heads are screwed on backwards.

Our education system would be better of without these morons who go by the little red book, to make their idiotic decisions.

Of course JT would not agree, with his brain, small as it is, full of Marxist ideology

Shoot the whole effin gang of these Commie scum, including Trudeau.
commented 2016-05-14 12:02:21 -0400
David, it’s the times we live in where Isaiah 5:20 is being implemented full tilt.
commented 2016-05-14 11:29:14 -0400
Should have just claimed it as being a “ceremonial sword”.
commented 2016-05-14 11:02:32 -0400
‘Shawn Soucy’ is not a Pure laine name. No quarter given to the Anglais.
commented 2016-05-14 10:55:34 -0400
Bill Elder, many "progressives are authoritarian thugs.