September 03, 2015

Free speech: Leave nasty comments on the CBC website and see what happens

Brian LilleyRebel Blogger
 

We all know CBC moderates comments. Most media outlets will. We do at The Rebel, we may be free speechers but there are people that say things that can get us sued, they spew profanity, they can do all kinds of things. So we moderate, every media outlet does.

So why on earth is CBC doing a story on the Conservative Party moderating comments on their social media feeds, other than the obvious answer - to make the Conservatives look bad.

While the Tories, the NDP and the Liberals all have active Instagram feeds, Meg Sinclair, a spokeswoman for Facebook Canada, said Harper's account is the only one that has launched ads to date.

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Many of the early comments on the sponsored posts were critical of Harper and his government's policies. Those comments have since disappeared.

Who the hell cares on than CBC? This is only about showing the Conservatives in a bad light.

Try this out, go to CBC's site and leave rude and profane comments and see if they stay up or are deleted. Then drop me a line in the comments to let me know what happens.

 

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commented 2016-02-23 22:33:58 -0500
CBC moderation of reader comments is getting worse as every day goes by. Canadians who pay a billion dollars a year for this organization are getting a poor return on their investment, and while our Charter or Rights allows us the privilege of free speech, and one would think the national broadcaster’s stories would be an opportunity for Canadians to engage in a dialogue, the opportunity has been throttled back to a trickle. How do they do this? (1) by imposing a highly censored filter on anything which challenges the ideas being put forward by the main published story itself. If it is any way critical of content of the CBC story, for example by pointing to elements that have a contentious nature, or by challenging the ‘sources’ of their story, chances are you’ll be filtered out. (2) by slowing the publishing of comments to a point that it takes hours (4,5,6) for comments to even appear. By doing this they deliberately discourage interest and the following of the conversation among Canadians that follows the story. It has perhaps gotten worse since some of the implementation of Harper’s C-51 began to kick in, and so any challenging of the official story (which has been proven so many times to be absolutely false, misleading disinformation and propaganda), any contest to the narrative which is presented by the story, is quickly removed. Mark Twain once said that “If you don’t read the news paper, you’re uninformed. If you do read the newspaper, you’re misinformed.” The appearance of alternative sources of news has been a major challenge to the MSM, but they have been the cause of their own demise through the telling of their false narratives. Many readers responding on this issue have said that the ‘reader comments’ were the best part of CBC stories, because it was in there that one could read the pulse of the Canadian people. It’s true; the comments have often been the best part of the story, with frequently better crafted, more insightful, intelligent writing. It’s criminal that Canadians are moderated by a company in another part of the world, too (I.C.U.C.) .. this company is utterly failing in it’s responsibility to Canadians ‘and’ the CBC .. their moderation is driving readers away. CBC fails Canadians once again by imposing this draconian control over the publishing of reader comments, and this militant censoring of reader feedback. It’s offensive, and a lot of people are abandoning the broadcaster for this reason alone. I certainly am. Canadians would be far better served if the billion dollars a year that goes into this white elephant were spent on something more worthwhile. Shut CBC down; they are not worth it any more.
commented 2015-10-21 08:46:48 -0400
The comments on the CBC articles don’t need to be rude or profane. All they need to be to be refused are even respectful ones which go against the socialist narrative.
commented 2015-10-13 10:04:30 -0400
The CBC is becoming more irrelevant to Canadians by the day…
commented 2015-09-05 21:43:51 -0400
Brian Lilley, I know that you will not respond to me nor would I ever expect you to, but I appreciate your view point on most of your posts and I hope that you continue to contribute to TheRebel.Media. I listen to all your podcasts and read all your posts here. God bless you, you are an inspiration to me.
commented 2015-09-05 21:30:09 -0400
Well, I have never been moderated by TheRebel.Media … that I know of … so I must not be saying things that may be deemed as “spewing profanity”. God knows I want to spew profanity at some of the left wingers that post here ( I do not want to name names ), but I do try to keep it under moderation, difficult as it is sometimes. Sometimes I just want to club over the head (figuratively speaking, of course) some of those left wingers that just can’t seem to grasp what you are saying. But of course, I understand their right to their opinions, no matter how stupid they are.
commented 2015-09-05 20:05:14 -0400
Jimmy; you’re in full CBC – defense mode, so I’ll type slowly for you. The point made here is that the CBC censors comments for political reasons. Not because they’re obscene (like you), not because they are legally fragile, and not because they’re lies. The CBC censors comments that are favourable to the Conservatives in some way or unfavourable to anyone who doesn’t like the Conservatives in some way. The length of time a story is open for comments is also a form of censorship. I’ve noticed that also – a story that is favourable to Conservatives or unfavourable to their opponents in some way is only on their website for a short time, and it either allows comments for a few hours then shuts it down or it doesn’t allow comments at all. A story that is unfavourable to the Conservatives in some way or favourable to their opponents is up indefinitely, and the comments section is always open. If I was the head of CBC, and I was biased against my Conservative bosses and hope to change that, it’s what I would do. It’s what they’re doing, and it’s morally wrong because it’s a publically funded institution. CTV can be biased, CBC can’t. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that they’re charging the Conservatives more than the Liberals or NDP for ads either.
commented 2015-09-03 21:32:23 -0400
I sent this to CBC:
“…To the top guy at CBC:
Please address the following comments I submitted to this link:
”http://www.cbc.ca/…/21-northern-first-nations-face">http://www.cbc.ca/…/21-northern-first-nations-face…
I will also be contacting my MP, etc.
Thank you
Sincerely
Dan Mancuso
Chilanko Forks, BC…"

After getting both of these comments censored:

Dan Mancuso
5 mins · CBC News ·
I am a taxpayer.
Taxpayers fund the CBC to the tune of well over one Billion dollars per year.
I demand that the taxpayer funded CBC stop censoring my challenges to their unconscionable use of social engineering, indoctrination, spin, misinformation, outright lies and the sin of omission, in aid of furthering their socialist agenda and the destruction of Canada!
I demand to know WHY my comment was censored?

This was the original comment:

“Content disabled.
Dan Mancuso
Partial funding freeze!?
Why aren’t these scofflaw criminals in shackles on the way to the hoosegow!?
Here’s just one story of a litany:
http://www.therebel.media/notley_falsely_claims_she_s
When is this coddling and victim hood entitlement BS going to stop? When is the hypocrisy and the double standards, the taxpayer funding of the racist reserve system to the tune of well over 10 Billion taxpayer dollars a year, and the regular attacks and insults to Canadians going to stop?
Canadians are sick and tired of this very expensive scam. Maybe it’s time we the people blockade and then lay to siege those criminal reserves, if government/law enforcement won’t do it’s job…”
I will be CCing this…" I got this prompt ‘response’… “…CBC Ombudsman (sent by esther.enkin@cbc.ca)

to me
Dear Mr. Mancuso:
The CBC Ombudsman deals with complaints about CBC’s news and current affairs programming. The Ombudsman’s main responsibility is content generated by CBC journalists. Comments and the moderation of comments do not fall under the Ombudsman’s mandate.
I have shared your note with the team at CBC Audience Relations to make them aware of your concerns. They will ensure that your correspondence is shared with and reviewed by the appropriate team within CBC. CBC’s online community is very large (1,000s of individuals contribute each day) and at times the volume of inquiries is equally high. CBC investigates as many inquiries as possible. If, upon review, CBC determines that a moderation decision should be reversed, it will be (wherever technically possible).
The CBC’s moderation team has asked me to advise complainants that they do not provide rationales for moderation decisions. Some common reasons for contributions being rejected are: personal attacks, insults and defamatory statements. They ask that you ensure that your submissions are in line with the Submission Guidelines – http://www.cbc.ca/aboutcbc/discover/submissions.html.
Also, they encourage you to review CBC’s moderation “Frequently Asked Questions” section – http://www.cbc.ca/help/faq/view/category/moderation.
If you wish to follow up with Audience Relations directly, they can be reached at http://www.cbc.ca/connects/help.
Sincerely,
Esther Enkin
CBC Ombudsman
ombudsman@cbc.ca
www.cbc.ca/ombudsman …"

Maybe it was because I included a link to THEREBEL

Great, now I can’t Share this comment on my FB page…
commented 2015-09-03 21:09:17 -0400
I’ve been banned from the CBC just for using funny avatars of Trudeau. I’ve also been banned for pointing out major errors in their articles and providing links to the correct ones. Last month in one of their “Laundry” articles they claimed Canada’s unemployment rate was 7%..it wasn’t it was 6.8% that day and still is today. Last week I was also banned from Kent Hehrs (LPC Calgary Centre) page. I have also been banned form posting on the Alberta NDP page. I suspect it was the Alberta NDP who reported my page as fake and I had to send FB a photo ID with my name on it to have it unlocked.
commented 2015-09-03 16:29:09 -0400
I’ve noticed it is a regular practice at the CBC, that if there is any negative trending in the comments towards their dream boy JT, the site is shut down for commenting, sometimes with only a couple of hundred posts. However the CBC’s regular twisted and distorted “stories” about PM Harper are left open for days and days to allow the usual wing nutz to post their rabid, vile, hate speech and death threats which are totally ignored by the so-called CBC moderator. If I reposted some of the hate speech that CBC allows in their comment section and replaced Harper’s name with say that of Trudeau, I would likely get a quick visit from the Human Rights Commission, but when those with DHS do it, CBC not only condones it but promotes it.
commented 2015-09-03 13:57:08 -0400
Ken,

You do know that there is a difference between a media source and a political party right? Not to mention forums and social media feeds.

Whenever anyone edits something or deletes something on Twitter – it’s often called out and people repost what was originally said – so they don’t get away with trying to hide or censor something.
commented 2015-09-03 13:48:48 -0400
Harry,

Apparently you can’t comprehend what you read. I addressed any CBC censoring in my first post.
commented 2015-09-03 13:12:21 -0400
This is what I posted on CBC…….. You’re making a federal case out of a few removed comments – Try checking out Justin Trudeau’s and Kathleen Wynne’s pages, for crying out loud there is even a group of people who have been banned from their social media because of pointing out fallacies on behalf of liberals…Both levels of liberals have promised an open and transparent gov’t. Well, over 200,000 people have been banned from commenting On Wynne’s alone. Where is the transparency or the right for us to exercise our right to speech or truth? When will the CBC pull it’s collective taxpayer padded ass out of the liberal-paid-for pool and start presenting real news that isn’t clouded by your producers bigoted and biased preferences. Its garbage like this that is causing tens of thousands of Canadians to agree that ALL funding should be pulled from CBC and let you all pay for it yourselves…. maybe then people will hear the truth instead of the sensationalized pile of steaming crap we are currently being assaulted with. Bunch of fluff reporters who don’t even report on the news that Canadians want to know about.
commented 2015-09-03 12:59:58 -0400
The CBC and CTV and Global news are all cut from the same leftist cloth. Reporting on the story of drowned migrant children off the coats of Turkey they scream that they “may” have been trying to get to Canada. Their deaths therefore are the result of the Conservatives not sending a plane for them. Funny how even though the lefties want to portray Canada as a post apocalyptic hell, all refugees still want to come here. Maybe Justin can send his favorite avenger, the hulk to rescue them all.
commented 2015-09-03 12:59:41 -0400
I truly appreciate The Rebel’s policies that support and protect free speech and freedom of the press – Thank you Ezra Levant and Team! Edmonton’s Active Citizenship – Free News Sharing : http://www.ciactivist.org/Archives.html

All news media in Canada would fair better getting rid of thier censorship editors and allow for commentators to take responsibility for thier words and actions. Like mine: 900 reasons not to Re-Elect NDP MP Linda Duncan https://youtu.be/h6Uttp2zt40
commented 2015-09-03 12:27:42 -0400
I monitored CBC’s Political Hot talk yesterday afternoon and without amy exaggeration whatsoever, the bias fowl negative light CBC trys to send to the public about the Conservative Party or Prime Minister Stephen Harper is outrageous, at one point the y had a Reps
Conservative woman from Alberta on Skype and two other women live in studio one NDP Rep and One Liberal Rep! Everytime the Conservative lady on skype tried to get a positive point or reply…..CBC would cut off her sound or muffle it so the sound wasn’t audible or clear! There were many other one sided conversations as well!

I have to say that the CTV is not really that much better, they certainly refuse to point out in fairness the good that Harper has done, but this is so obvious I am hoping everyone will not be sleeping and catch on that this Leftist is cushioning their own agenda and discreet awards! Just as Leftist Barack Obama owns and controls’ all the news that comes out of the Main Stream Media!
commented 2015-09-03 11:59:05 -0400
Um, Jimmy Da Silva: Did you even read what Brian wrote? He was not criticizing anyone for moderating comments. He was criticizing the CBC for being hypocrites in calling out the Conservatives for moderating comments while they (CBC) do it themselves, as does every media outlet.
commented 2015-09-03 11:57:18 -0400
Jimmy you are the moron. CBC does censor comments that make fun of their darling Liberals all the time especially that entitled twit they call a leader. But no problem in coming up with the worst names and conspiracy theories calling Harper a Nazi or something like that. The anti-Harper comments often stay around. The replies that do the same to their darling are deleted quite often. This is a bias. If you can’t see that you are willfully blind.
The Rebel is not funded by our tax dollar and can hold whatever bias they want. But quite often they allow a profane word to stick around. I know. I’ve used some. You’ll note even your own “moron” comment did. That wouldn’t happen at CBC unless it was against Harper. You are a deluded man and can see for you CBC comments make you comfortable with a tax funded biased media because it leans your way. You are a hypocrite.
commented 2015-09-03 11:23:55 -0400
And then CBC accuses Harper of limiting free speech!
commented 2015-09-03 11:18:20 -0400
I have had no problem at the CBC site. Having said that – The Rebel has deleted comments and banned members. Is your argument really about the LEVEL of moderation? If you censor ONE thing – you are as bad as the CBC.

It’s moronic to say well we are not as bad as that OTHER site – they censor 10 comments out of 20. We only censor 5 comments out of 20. It’s all or nothing Brian.

There are plenty of media sites where anything goes – as long as you are not threatening people. And no one here is saying anything that can get you sued. The Rebel is barely even known in Canada, so it’s not like you are under constant watch like other high profile media sites.