June 14, 2016

Hillary Clinton called AR-15 a “weapon of war.” This gun expert sets the record straight

Brian LilleyRebel Co-Founder
 

By now you’ve heard more than a few times since the terrorist attack in Orlando, that the AR-15 has to be banned because it’s the “gun of choice” for mass shootings. Except when it’s not.

I speak with Tony Bernardo, Executive Director of Canadian Shooting Sports Association about how this is turning out to be a big narrative fail by the media.

Tony helps clear up a lot of misconceptions about the AR-15 and much of the misinformation and disinformation surrounding the classification of the firearm.

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commented 2016-06-17 19:30:46 -0400
In real time…tomorrow…I will not be competing because I am too old and fat to “run and gun”…but I will be volunteering as a score keeper/target marker at a “service rifle” competition at our local DND range. There will be teams from all three armed forces, police, and members of my civilian club.

Among the members of my club team there is a tax auditor who gets danger pay bonus because of the threat level he has to put up with doing his job. There is a former Brinks Express guard (who works for the Department of Fisheries…there are pirates who brazenly enter our waters who throw those officers overboard if they board a vessel unarmed)….he is the odds on favourite to win the individuals….he is one Hell of a shot…..there is a retired military special forces….there is an auto mechanic who loves to hunt and who had second to top score at our winter small bore season…he was beaten by his young son who had a perfect score….too young to compete in this competition….this year….:-)

They all own AR-15’s…but our DND hosts will be providing FULL AUTO Colt Canada C-7’s (the Canadian version of the M-16) so that everybody has an even playing field…..I doubt that any experienced competitors will select full auto because the repeated recoil spoils your aim and your score.

I don’t own an AR-15 or any other restricted firearm….not my style….I shoot single shot bolt action target rifle.

The people who do own them have good reason to…it keeps them sharp when they persue their livelihood.
commented 2016-06-17 13:10:02 -0400
NNAUMBUA FARRELL; That doesn’t mean someday there will not be a need to own at least a semi auto rifle of some kind to protect ourselves from tyrannical government. In the US that is exactly what the 2nd amendment is for. Nothing more , nothing less. We need the same constitutional right here in Canada. We are already being infiltrated by a people who actually believe in the Quran and its Sharia Law. That means in their hearts they accept that death to non believers( non" innocents") is acceptable. Its a good time for all Canadians to be lobbying our politicians to permit well trained , law abiding citizens to ‘conceal carry’.
commented 2016-06-17 13:00:49 -0400
Look, someone with a .45 caliber semi auto hand gun can shoot faster and inflict way more damage than the same person with a .223 semi auto rifle. The .45 cal makes a way bigger hole. The .223 cal is only .003 inches bigger than a .22 cal. Give me a semi auto .45 cal semi auto hand gun in close quarters any day of the week.
commented 2016-06-15 21:07:05 -0400
Simply having the ability to kill large numbers of people should be the basis of banning. Of course, veering a minivan at high speed into the path of an oncoming school bus could make a minivan qualify for banning… But I’m sure that ARs kill way more people than automobiles do annually.
commented 2016-06-15 21:00:08 -0400
All kiliing is evil, no matter the context!
commented 2016-06-15 20:59:39 -0400
Yes comrade and we all know that there are certainly never any times when killing or having the ability to kill is necessary. There are no times when an AR has saved a civilians life when used by that civilian:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCZ2V4St5t0
commented 2016-06-15 20:42:41 -0400
Nnaumbua Farrell says “ARs are FULLY automatic assault rifle machine gun killing machines!” You should read some of the other posts on here. Firearms are not “killing machines” because they lack the ability to think or act. They are just objects.

Remember the old slogan that holds as true today as it did fifty years ago: Guns don’t kill Americans, Americans kill Americans.
commented 2016-06-15 20:21:43 -0400
THANK YOU comrade Jay Kelly! ARs are never:

http://www.basspro.com/Bushmaster-Varminter-Rifle/product/14062009563269/

Ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdhrm7jnyis

I mean EVER:

http://www.basspro.com/Bushmaster-Predator-Rifle/product/1406241729/

Used:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V465Z1z5Z1Y

For:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIMRknpx71g

Hunting:

http://www.basspro.com/Bushmaster-Predator-Rifle/product/1406241729/

I mean, what self respecting hunter would want an accurate, lightweight and powerful firearm chambered in a commonly available and in expensive round like the .223?

And besides, there’s no need for them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMH2BRkcCyU

EVER:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCZ2V4St5t0

I mean seriously, since we should base our purchasing choices solely on need, I propose we ban motorcycles and sports cars in Canada. The highest legal speed limit in the country is 110 kph in Alberta! What for have you need comrade with all that horsepower comrade?!

Oh, and ARs are FULLY automatic assault rifle machine gun killing machines!
commented 2016-06-15 19:08:54 -0400
No, David, no trial just a summary execution by the local constabulary. I think you’re right the left does believe they are alive. That’s why they force gun owners to lock them up and hand guns must be double locked because they are the most evil beings on earth. Too bad a museum or collector didn’t get them. But then the new owner might have been forced to its will by means of telepathy. Can’t be too careful.
commented 2016-06-15 17:40:45 -0400
AL PETERSON- You mean it didn’t even get a far trial and due process?
Sick for sure. The Left actually believe the gun is alive.
commented 2016-06-15 13:25:22 -0400
Bill Elder, good summary on the AR 15 and its lack of magical powers or the ability to think. The official thinking in Canuckistan is that guns are possessed of powers of reason and the ability to plan and carry out those pans.
Last summer I was in a local machine shop when an RCMP officer came in carrying an old Remington pump .22. I assumed he was having parts made but he told it was getting cut up because it was involved in a crime. The shop owner told me they are frequently brought in. One was an immaculate Ross rifle in collector condition and it got sawed up for its sins.

So we are carrying out capital punishment on inanimate objects in Canuckistan. Gives you a new insight into the stupidity of the left wing/ bureaucratic mind.
commented 2016-06-15 13:17:34 -0400
Aside from the fact that an AR 15 was NOT used in the Orland killings- (it was a Sig Sauer MCX ) and that the rifle used has no parts interchangeable with an AR 15, and they are different mechanically, functionally and shoot different ammunition, and that neither has EVER been used in a “battle field” or military application – I guess Clinton has no compunction about using the victims of criminals as political wedges to criminalize 7 million Americans for the property they own and used for lawful purposes 99.999% of the time.

Clinton is a dangerous idiot and so is any leftist politico who thinks they can obliterate the 2nd amendment the way they want to without sparking off a civil insurrection – police beware of dangerous fools like Clinton because you mean about as much to her as those in the Pulse night club just a political pawn in a deadly game of oppressing a segment of American society she is making into a patsy – it is you who she intends to set against law abiding Americans after she abrogates their 2nd amendment rights. You better pick which side you will defend – the constitution or criminal sociopaths who send you war against fellow Americans
commented 2016-06-15 12:29:59 -0400
Its rich how Clinton goes on about gun control but is guilty as a whore in church on quarterbacking the Benghazi stand down that allowed the US ambassador to die , in order that her arms transfer to ISIS was completed. Now those US arms are being used by ISIS to kill anyone not a devout Islamist.
commented 2016-06-15 12:01:17 -0400
Thanks, Bill Elder, for setting Jay Kelly right on the issue: People kill people! A gun is an inanimate object that must have an animate user to fire it! I posted a similar thread in another article about this! Some people clearly lack the ability to differentiate between animate and inanimate! Some people also clearly lack the ability to use rational thinking skills.
commented 2016-06-15 11:59:29 -0400
Marty Ashfield commented – “I am afraid that we gun owners are fighting a losing battle because you cannot fix stupid.”

We can’t fix slander, scapegoating and stigmatization by a government-media disinformation machine which rivals or exceeds Pravda in it’s prime.
commented 2016-06-15 11:51:49 -0400
Jay Kelly commented – “The AR-15 is certainly a civilian weapon, It proved its effectiveness in Florida! 49 people killed outright, in a matter of minutes!”

“IT” killed these people? So are you saying this particular firearm has some magical control over the owner that turns them into a sexually conflicted Jihadi murderer? I mean he had a Glock too – maybe it had some deadly influence over him? Then he also had a certain type of van that got him to the club, perhaps it drove him there and made him murder? There would have been no murder at this club if he had to walk.

Jay, you realize what ascribing human traits or super natural influence to an inanimate objects is? It’s called “animism”, a primitive superstitious belief system – and up until the modern Liberal hoplophobia era, it was believed only to exist in isolated primitive Neolithic cultures.

Modern advanced civilization under scientific societies realize that in fact people do kill people – cops do and are using AR15s all the time to kill felons and no doubt an AR15 was used to take down this murderer, – inanimate objects are tools Jay. They can be used to save or take life – it all depends on the user. Unless are you a paranoid misanthropic animist who trusts no one to withstand the supernatural evil spirits in an AR15?
commented 2016-06-15 11:16:09 -0400
‘Our honest and truthful’ national news agency CBC reported yesterday in one of their stories that the weapon used in the Orlando shooting was a ‘dangerous battlefield weapon’. That was the description used in the headlines of the story, which I did not read.
I, like many other knowledgeable (I am a gunsmith) people, am getting so tired of these idiots including our asinine government, calling the AR-15 an ‘assault’ weapon, and then the stupid b*tch Clinton calls it a weapon of war and the assholes at the CBC call it a ‘dangerous battlefield weapon’.
None of these stupid idiotic people have ever been in a war or battle or know anything about firearms and weapons of war and battlefields leave alone know their asses from a hole in the ground.
I am afraid that we gun owners are fighting a losing battle because you cannot fix stupid.
commented 2016-06-15 11:08:53 -0400
I dunno gunnies, personally I think the AR15 fails as either a military or civilian sporting rifle – bloody expensive, so so accuracy and a round that takes multiple hit to down an enemy at ranges over 200 yds and as a hunting round I wouldn’t use it on anything bigger than a coyote – good for controlling gophers but bloody expensive. – as a target rifle it can’t get out to 800-100o yard and even in th 100-500 yd ranges the wind plays hell with the small .224 55gr. pill. – and you can’t own any high cap mags for it so the firepower needed to triple tap a coyote out there at +300 yds is defeated by low mag capacity.

Just the same the action on this is really no different than any gas operated civilian auto loader and if a responsible shooter has the money to waste on one and wants to jump through all the hoops to get the right to limited use on certified ranges only, that is their right – ya you heard me you fascist bastards – his RIGHT – just as you have the right to buy anything you want to own and use lawfully. It’s a property issue and a rights issue and it is a litmus test of the operation of government and police inside the confines of constitutional constructs of rule of law.

In this country you do not criminalize people who are not criminals and you do not seize property legally owned and used.
commented 2016-06-15 07:18:10 -0400
Wonder what the MSM will ask for, when the nutcases start loading cars with homemade explosive?
- A nationwide ban on assault-cars?!?
commented 2016-06-15 02:18:25 -0400
Yup . It wasn’t an AR-15 Brian. But a Semi auto Sig Sauer MCX .
The damn media keep calling it an assault weapon. Sure looks scary don’t it MSM?
I had a 30-06 semi auto browning rifle I used for hunting that could shoot way more accurately and just as fast as the Sig Sauer MCX used by the killer. Doesn’t look scary so its not one they want banned. All semi autos shoot as fast as you can pull the trigger , but no faster.
commented 2016-06-15 01:32:55 -0400
Jay Kelly by the way that is not what the Florida terrorist used , you may want to read some REAL MEDIA to keep up with facts. Just because left wing dictators said he used that , does not mean that it was used.
commented 2016-06-15 01:31:25 -0400
Jay he did it over a period of hours you halfwit , and if anyone else had a gun they could have stopped him , but of course you know better eh? No guns were used on 9/11 did not mean no one was killed.
commented 2016-06-15 01:18:41 -0400
The AR-15 is certainly a civilian weapon, not a military weapon and game hunters know it is not a hunting weapon.

It proved its effectiveness in Florida! 49 people killed outright, in a matter of minutes!

The shooter in Florida was torn about his own sexuality and wanted to resolve it by killing a whole bunch of people.

The AR-15 did the job, and did it well.

Remember, it is not guns that kill Americans. It is Americans who kill Americans.
commented 2016-06-14 23:50:33 -0400
Actually the gun the killer used was a Sig Sauer MCX , not a Bushmaster AR 15 but we don’t want to pour the cold water of truth on another hysterical leftard gun phobic narrative.

AFA Hitlery Klintoon is concerned an AR 15 and a Colt dragoon are all the same thing. She’s against anything getting in the way of her Fascist dream state.
commented 2016-06-14 20:30:07 -0400
The Lee-Enfied rifle was a “weapon of war”. So what? Now it isn’t. It was taken from military service and sold (back when governments trusted the citizenry) to the average Joe who wanted an inexpensive but high quality rifle. They have been used outside of military use for at least 70 years. “But don’t confuse me with the facts. My emotions have already made up my mind”.
commented 2016-06-14 20:25:30 -0400
When I was a kid the gun to be weak kneed over was the “Tommy Gun”. Everything was called a tommy gun by those who knew nothing about them. Kinda like now. The more things change the more they stay the same.
commented 2016-06-14 20:22:07 -0400
How many guns were used on 9/11? Body count?
commented 2016-06-14 20:04:17 -0400
why don’t they ban roof-tops if mooslums are tossing people off them?
a roof top may have a high capacity well.
they are very prolific in the cities.
anyone has access to them.
they are simple to use and can be reloaded at a moments notice.
they have a variable ‘fire’ rate.
I’m sure if you ban roof-tops, all the scuzzy muzzies will go home.
commented 2016-06-14 19:59:36 -0400
The vast majority of guns used in mass shootings are handguns and shotguns, not automatic weapons.

More lies from the Progressivist-Sodomites. And a CINO wants to ban such a weapon.

Canada is a cesspool.