November 23, 2016

How high will Alberta power bills go after coal phase out? Notley’s hydro price caps offer a clue

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Commentator
 

How big and bad are Alberta power bills going to get with the irresponsible phase out of cheap, reliable coal fired electricity generation?

Really bad. At least twice as bad.

Rachel Notley has imposed a four year price cap on electricity rates to seem like she's protecting consumers. But is she? Or is it all just for show?

The capped rate will be set at 6.8 cents per kilowatt hours, roughly twice what we pay today.

Can you afford to pay twice as much for power so Rachel Notley can impress some bureaucrats in Ottawa and unelected globalists at the UN?

Rachel Notley seems to thinks so.

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commented 2016-11-27 15:02:24 -0500
Carbon Czar Notley is Alberta’s version of Wynn, a divisive polarizing socialist engineer with the mindset of a millennial activist ingrate. Mandated by a sense of liberal entitlements and her socialist/communist arrogance as well as her myopic belief in her own NDP parties moral superiority. Her level of political correctness is only surpassed by her gross hypocrisy and disgusting incompetence. A true narcissistic megalomaniac and embarrassment to Alberta. My father knew her father Grant Notley years ago and told me he was never even close to the warped version of the socialist cancerous freak show that she has been proselytizing all over Alberta .
commented 2016-11-27 13:51:17 -0500
A Country the size of Canada, with all our resources and ultra high taxes we pay.

No Canadian should ever be paying for power at all, this is a fact no Government wants you to know, at least not any government we have had so far.
commented 2016-11-26 12:12:41 -0500
Spreading false news

181 Every one who wilfully publishes a statement, tale or news that he knows is false and that causes or is likely to cause injury or mischief to a public interest is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.

R.S., c. C-34, s. 177.
Date modified: 2016-11-17
commented 2016-11-24 21:25:23 -0500
Gotta love how she makes plans for long after she is voted out and no longer matters.
commented 2016-11-24 16:42:17 -0500
Robert Hope – I’m hoping and praying that we can boot her out. We need to educate those who were foolish enough to vote for a communist party.
commented 2016-11-24 16:39:19 -0500
Coal phase out by 2030 ? Not going to happen. The NDP will be a bad memory by then and long gone. Advancements in technology will get coal fired scrubbers to a point where over 90% of emissions are contained . In 2030 coal will still be here but Notley and her wrecking crew will be gone like a fart in a windstorm.
commented 2016-11-24 15:02:05 -0500
Pucker up Albertans, my latest bill in Ontario averaged out at 30 cents per kwh. I know “Big Brother” only says it’s 8.6 cents but that’s only if I shut my power off in mid and full peak times. No, that’s not true either because we’re also charged to get the power to the house even if we don’t use it. But that’s it. Oh wait, we also have to pay the wind, solar, and natural gas providers whether they produce or not. The next election is coming up so Premier Commie is giving us back 8% come January but will add the price of the carbon tax on our bills. We’re screwed and you will be too!
commented 2016-11-24 13:11:44 -0500
it’s not a question of stupidity when it comes to the Marxist policies of introducing a crushing tax like this one in a poorly timed economic downturn..
It is all by design and it’s design is to create unnecessary hardships for people forcing them to do all kinds of things that they wouldn’t normally do.
The ramifications of which are not even completely understood by the designers of this crime but they do know is it will fast forward their agenda which is to move people into urban centers where there are more easily controlled and begin the reduction in population.
commented 2016-11-24 12:40:52 -0500
China builds a new coal fired power station every week.
In one year they turn on more new coal powered electricity than Australia’s total output.

China is already the largest carbon dioxide emitter and their output will rise 70% by 2020.

And we think we’re saving the planet?

It will not make one iota of difference what we do in Australia, Canada, the United States or anywhere else in the world for that matter.

All the politicians are doing is increasing our cost of living and making our manufacturers uncompetitive in the world market, with their idiotic carbon tax.
When countries like China are growing and consuming at these extraordinary rates!

Time to wake up! Our so-called Politicians are lyin to us . . . CO2 is plant food !
commented 2016-11-24 12:08:12 -0500
From my understanding, current market has a price ceiling of $999.99 / MWh, let’stand call it $1000. That translates to 100c/KWh. This piece of regulation will impose an illusionary price ceiling of $68 / MWh. I say it will be an illusion because the price will still be free to go up to $1000 and all the producers will still get paid in full.

The government will make generation providers whole if the clearing price goes over $68 by using carbon tax revenues. So really, at the end of the day, rate payers will still be on the hook for high electricity prices (remember the ceiling will still be $1000). All that’s happening here is that the bottom line on your power bill is being laundered so you can’t see what you’re actually paying for each KWh on your power bill beyond 6.8 cents. Your carbon taxes will be making up the difference in the background.

The irony here is that the higher the market price goes, the more the background carbon tax subsidy will cover, potentially $0.93 / KWh picked up by the NDP and not shown on your power bill.

So the largest consumers will reap the greatest benefits from this “market cap”. Are you extremely efficient with your consumption? Lets say you burn through 1 KWh at $1. You pay $0.068 and the province’s tax payers will collectively cover the other $0.932 for you. But what if you aren’t efficient or “green” at all and you do the same job but need 100 KWh to do it? You pay $6.80 and the tax payers will cover the other $93.20.

How’s that for green policy? :)

If you want to know what system prices are for any given month you can check on the alberta utilities commission website, broken down by each utility.
commented 2016-11-24 12:04:47 -0500
Jan I believe Notly and whin are being payed off by PM RETARD , that is the only explanation . It is making spineless PM look good in the UN eyes ,so he can get a seat after he Screws Canada in three years because he noes The 37% that voted him in will see all he isn’t capable of running anything .
commented 2016-11-24 11:18:04 -0500
Andy.. I bloody hope you’re right…!!!
commented 2016-11-24 09:35:54 -0500
The capped rate will be set at 6.8 cents per kilowatt hours, roughly twice what we pay today.

With the carbon tax on top of that no doubt.
commented 2016-11-24 05:03:43 -0500
This Notley madness is only temporary, praise God… After January 20th, 2017 as Trump takes power in the United States, and the Obama EPA and anti natural resource legislation gets deep-sixed almost overnight, even hard core twits like Notley will soon thereafter face the new economic face and reality of North American power production and exploitation of the power resources landscape… America will start drilling, fracking, coal mining, and nuclear power generating again… Notley will be a fart in the wind with her previous and grandiose “wind mill” based plans for Alberta…
commented 2016-11-24 01:50:36 -0500
This is A little off topic but not too far…
Carbon tax 
it’s not a question of stupidity when it comes to the Marxist policies of introducing a crushing tax like this one in a poorly timed economic downturn..
It is all by design and it’s design is to create unnecessary hardships for people forcing them to do all kinds of things that they wouldn’t normally do.
The ramifications of which are not even completely understood by the designers of this crime but they do know is it will fast forward their agenda which is to move people into urban centers where there are more easily controlled and begin the reduction in population.
commented 2016-11-24 01:17:39 -0500
I hope that fat slob Gordo cannot afford as much food as he usually buys when hos power goes sky high.
commented 2016-11-23 23:12:34 -0500
6.8 cents would be a bargain considering that for a couple of years now it goes between 7 and 11 cents day and night. The stunned assholes need to get the distribution charges down which I pay 8 1/2 times the actual power.
commented 2016-11-23 22:45:24 -0500
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commented 2016-11-23 22:10:43 -0500
Thanks all you mental midgets that voted in these ass clowns ! I am glad you will pay more for everything just like the rest of us , ha ha ! You voted in these losers and now true Albertans will pay for your stupidity! True Blue Albetans will make sure this province is great again come the next election . THATS A PROMISE !
commented 2016-11-23 21:52:17 -0500
Why is there a belief that the only way to be green is by destroying the power plants that is cheap and the infrastructure is already there. Cannot being green also include making these plants as efficient as possible? It is insanity to destroy and rebuild. How long will it take to recoup the costs before we are in the black again? Price per watt will be cheap compared to all the extra costs that will be added to the household power bill (transmission costs, etc.).
commented 2016-11-23 21:14:32 -0500
I guess since everyone is so happy about how well things are going in the practice run province of Ontario, Alberta is next. What used to be the two main drivers of the country’s economy reduced to have nots. Left wing politics should be labeled treasonous and outlawed.
commented 2016-11-23 20:03:19 -0500
It’s one thing to seek cleaner energu alternatives, it’s entirely another to deplete energy productin in the absence of an alternative – that is the definition of madness.

This government has proven itself remorseless in deliberately wreaking havoc in the province and putting citizens through needless damage. The election is too far away to prevent the damage, this government must have a court injunction to cease its unmandated destruction, and be dissolved by the LG on petition from the people
commented 2016-11-23 20:01:52 -0500
What is Wynne looking for in the pic.A politician with half a brain.The big problem is all these government offices using hydro at the tax payers expense.This can only get worse with the carbon tax shit .I think they should work from 1900 to 0700 but they can work days on the weekend when the hydro rate is lower.That’s what is expected of us.
The biggest insult is them dumping hydro to the USA below cost while we take it up the rear.Because of over production or miss management.Alberta this is the same shit headed your way.
commented 2016-11-23 19:58:19 -0500
So, China & India are by far the biggest emitters of CO2 (but there us no settled science that this is causing the weather to get warmer, if it is even getting warmer) & they aren’t doing a thing about it, so think of it like this…..a room is filled with polluted air & there is a small hole on each of the two walls facing each other, one lets the polluted air out while the other one lets more polluted air in…….on one hand Canada letting out the polluted air while at the same time, China/India are letting it back in at an even quicker pace. How dumb is that, yet that’s exactly what McKenna, Nutley, Winbag & Trudeau are doing…..& on top of this punishing us for the way they think!!!!… not too bright, the lights are out in more places than the back alleys.
commented 2016-11-23 19:50:59 -0500
With solar and wind generated electricity you could look forward to 18 1/2 cents per kilowatt hr and that’s just to get things started once the caps are removed..
commented 2016-11-23 19:48:06 -0500
@ Jan G – " What advantage is it for Notley (and Wynne) to go this way? "

Not that you asked me, but I think what they gain is vote purchasing as the people that are paid to erect these solar farms are socialists. And it would not surprise me if the company donated heavily to the NDP party.
commented 2016-11-23 19:42:40 -0500
The price cap on a per kilowatt basis will mean nothing when things cut loose. I have no idea of what it is like on urban billing, but the largest portion of my farms billing is transmission, demand, and delivery along with a few other small charges, they are over four times the power itself, which is currently under four and half cents per KWH, this is thru Epcor. I noticed on the news as always, they are only telling half the story, and that this supposed cap is meaningless when the companies will simply drive up the other costs to compensate. There is going to be some very unhappy gulliblee suckers before this is over, and thats over and above some customers like myself that can do very little to reduce consumption when it comes to livestock and other needs. All so these NDP idiots can beak off…guess I better watch what I say, ditzy Jansen will be calling me out next….
commented 2016-11-23 19:38:21 -0500
My age old question, at least since May, 2015. Where the hell is the invisible energy minister in this? Particularly as an MLA for a Northern riding, where she is equally invisible. I just got notice that my power bill is increasing 12% per month directly due to the carbon tax. I can afford it with budgeting, but know others who will have problems, particularly due to the non-economy created by the Non- Democatic Party, including Ms. Invisible.

Come on Ms. Invisible, start showing some courage and represent your electorate.

Yeah…I know…that top off to teacher pension is great for when you move to B/C after this term of government.
commented 2016-11-23 19:29:40 -0500
Ron Voss:
I agree, but, I still don’t get it. What advantage is it for Notley (and Wynne) to go this way? They seriously can’t be doing it to ‘save the planet’. There has to be something in it for them personally, eg Sheila alluded to? Are they trying to secure future jobs for themselves? I don’t understand the [lack of] logic.
commented 2016-11-23 19:13:58 -0500
A major solar farm is being erected by the small village of Hays Alberta, most farmers in the area are opposed to this desecration of good farmland, and when asked if this development was subsidized by the government, of course the representative would not answer their questions. So one would make the assumption that by their silence, that it is subsidized……………heavily!

I would suggest to the government that they erect all their green schemes in the most populous regions (cities mainly) and leave their grubbing meat hooks off the farmland. This is after all where the food is grown, it seems even the young school children can grasp this concept.

We in the west have the cheapest form of utilities and these idiots have and will ruin it for everyone.