March 13, 2016

Immigrants don’t really benefit Canada anymore, and Trudeau is about to make it worse

Lauren SouthernRebel Commentator
 

Justin Trudeau intends to admit 300,000 immigrants into Canada in 2016 -- the largest amount ever admitted in a single year. These will not be skilled foreign workers, either. Many will be immigrants' spouses and other relatives, or simply economic migrants.

Despite how both parties try to sell us immigration by saying it's either good for the economy or good for diversity, with our current system the taxpayer almost always loses. This Fraser Institute study lays out the facts.

Canada needs a better selection process if we want migration to have a positive impact on Canadians and our economy.

We've become a country hell-bent on helping foreigners instead of helping our own citizens.

I want my tax dollars going towards making Canada a better place to live, and helping other Canadians.

Unfortunately that is not the case under our pathologically altruistic government.

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commented 2016-03-29 22:48:52 -0400
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commented 2016-03-19 17:56:46 -0400
It’s all about ensuring the Conservatives never get into power again…a kinda “make-pension insurance” plan for Liberals. But it didn’t work for his father…we’ll see.
commented 2016-03-18 23:28:13 -0400
I have read many of your posts with great interest. It is quite good that people are at least weighing in on the immigration issue. Personally from my point of view, and by the way, Muamar Ghadaffi’s view as well, we will not have to worry too much in the future about any of these issues, due to the fact that our country will be inundated with Muslims. They produce more off spring who are, of course, immediately brought into the Muslim faith. We will be out numbered in a decade if Justin Trudeau has his way. We are following the path of Europe and look where that has got them. Why can we not learn from the mistakes Europe has made with regards to Muslim immigrants. Are there some good ones, yes there are. Will they renounce their religion, no they will not. Do they believe that Sharia Law is above the Constitution of Canada. Yes they do! The reason for that is our Constitution was created by man, Sharia Law was given to the Muslims by Allah and therefore above our laws. This is the same in the U.S. That’s why you don’t see the U.S. rushing to bring in hundreds of thousands of new Muslim immigrants. Muslims tried to bring in Sharia Law a number of years ago in Ontario, and it failed. Thanks to some determined politicians that stood up and were counted. However with this rush to inundate our country with Muslims, it won’t be long until the Christians and atheists in this country are outnumbered and Sharia Law will creep into our society. Anyway folks, apart from a revolution and a Donald Trump style leader in our country, we are at their (the Muslims) mercy and soon will be under their political will. I’m to old to start worrying about it, but I fear for my grand kids and their kids.
commented 2016-03-18 21:27:14 -0400
I recall our illustrious fruit fly geneticist, THE ‘DR" david suzuki…the professor from the university of junk science rant and rail against Harper about his immigration policy saying that Harper should be thrown in jail. I wonder what the fruit fly expert thinks about “hair” trudeau’s policy
commented 2016-03-18 20:27:57 -0400
I think the young lady on this video doesn’t know everything about immigration and immigrants.

One important factor is that Canada cannot possibly expect skilled workers or doctors, engineers, nurses to come when the first thing the Canadian government tells to the newly arrived that he can use his credentials on the toilet, it means nothing to Canada. If this is coupled with the lack of speaking and writing English or French the situation of the immigrant is even worse. It could take years before an immigrant catches up to born Canadians and that doesn’t include the fact that getting a well paid job usually requires good connections. There are of course exceptions, like during the last oil-boom in Alberta when just about anyone could found a job. Even unions (family businesses) welcomed almost anybody.

Thus, you can’t really blame the immigrant for paying less taxes. He was brought in here for that very purpose, to do low-paying jobs that born Canadians don’t really want to accept.

Having said that I am quite suspicious of the sudden increase in the number of immigrant this year, too.
I wonder who will be the majority of the extra roughly 100 000 immigrants? Will they be Russians, Ukranians, Poles, Germans? No. I am totally sure this is designed to bring in more Muslim migrants who pose as refugees (while some of them really are).

Yet, the biggest problem for me is how the Marijuana Boy is spending the taxpayers money. He spent so far much more on foreign aid and on “climax-change” than on the Canadian economy. And then I increasingly start to believe the “climax-change” is nothing but an international money-laundering scam for politicians, coupled with some nice vacations at exotic location on our planet.
That is something I am far more worried and concerned about than immigration.
commented 2016-03-18 19:28:54 -0400
And the money they get here gets sent out of the country, devaluing our dollar
commented 2016-03-18 19:19:27 -0400
Cost to Canadians? Pshaw. Do we need to talk about such messy numbers? Plus there is no need to speak either language. Doesn’t that make perfect sense to all you neanderthal knucking dragging Conservatives?
commented 2016-03-15 03:50:07 -0400
If you bring in enough immigrants, then their sheer numbers will make the affirmative action quota numbers irrelevant.
commented 2016-03-15 02:27:14 -0400
R.egarding to some comments about the plan to bring an extra 300,000 migrants. The same place as the young men are causing rapes and destruction in the west is not a good plan expecially when there religion is taut to hate christians,jews, and other religions that are not muslim.You do not take in people from the country that you were in war with plane and simple.Of all those migrants invading europe 70%are young men of fighting age,they should be fighting for there country ,as our ancestors did.Something is very wrong here with what is happing it is not fair to the country it will end up like sweden or germany.Most of the young men which is 3/4 of the migrants that have came there are causing violence and terror amonest the the people that live there,they are enonomic migrants the ones causing havic.So to say we must be bringing 300,000 migrants because we need economic growth is a loud of crap.Only the true refugees ,which are few and far between will be willing to work.Look at all the boats that came in from everywere they were mostly young men not many familys there. What is happing in the west now, will cause a soon to be war islam vs the west .It is not fair to the people here to treat them better than the true locals.There are many hungry homeless people needing help and housing.The newcomers get housing first and get double to triple the money a person in need gets here.How can that help our ecomony ? Doesnt seniors need more help and medical coverage , yes the ones whom payed taxes and were brought up in this country.
commented 2016-03-14 19:01:41 -0400
David Tremblay commented 2 hours ago:
“all facts prove that the only way to increase an economy is to increase the population.”

Considering your ‘facts’, India, China, bangladesh & pakistan (among the most populous countries) should be THE MOST economically developed & prosperous countries. Unfortunately they are NOT. Even a century ago these countries were the most populous countries in the world and also the most backward, economically & socially.
It’s the quality which matters NOT the quantity. Same holds true for immigrants, large numbers of immigrants are not going to improve the economic situation of any country it’s the caliber & character of those immigrants which will prove beneficial to the host nation. “shortage of workers to do low wage jobs (which immigrants might be perfect for)”

So that’s what you think of ‘immigrants’ a low paid unskilled worker perfect for low wage jobs only. Perhaps that’s the only reason Liberals & Conservatives, alike, had allowed huge numbers of immigrants. NOT for countries benefit but for the benefit of big corporations & as potential voters.

Read my earlier post below:
As many commentators has mentioned & try to justify that Canada needs hundred of thousands of immigrants every year to sustain it’s population growth & development then how come Japan with a low to negative population growth could sustain itself economically & socially???
Canada’s population during 50’s& 60’s stayed between 15 to 20 million (population growth rate of 2%) with an average intake of less than 100,000 immigrants each year. And, it’s a fact that during those 2 decades Canada became more industrialized & developed more than any other years during it’s existence collectively. Historically, Canada never had negative population growth, it’s a lie told by our politicians, liberals & conservatives alike to serve big corporations & build voter base.
If Canada could develop & be a first world developed nation with 20 million people then why do we need more than a million people (300K new immigrants, 400K TFW & 500K foreign students, foreign students are allowed to 30hrs of work each week) added to our 36 million each year now when we have no new industries being build and the old ones shutting down at an alarming rate.
commented 2016-03-14 17:59:07 -0400
“Also the number the current government wants to bring in is only a bit more than what Harper brought in.” that statement is a lie Davis Tremblay.

David please immigrate to the UK. you will like it there better. Canadians are for Canadians first, immigrants in small measured numbers second.
commented 2016-03-14 16:45:34 -0400
Well Lauren, all facts prove that the only way to increase an economy is to increase the population. And since the citizens of this country are reproducing at a rate that is a below a sustainable level our only hope to survive as a country is to bring in immigrants. Also the number the current government wants to bring in is only a bit more than what Harper brought in. Immigrants (which I believe you have confused with refugees) cost the average taxpayer nothing. There seems to be a shortage of workers to do low wage jobs (which immigrants might be perfect for)or the previous government wouldn’t have supported the TFW program. Unless they were lying about why they supported it… And without immigrants to hate you might be forced to admit that you are just filled with hate and will make up another random reason to hate something, probably just any random thing I suspect….
commented 2016-03-14 14:56:31 -0400
Well said Hyacinth and Karan Singh.
commented 2016-03-14 14:16:06 -0400
Kelly,

What you did not take into account with your rather short comment is the fact that one does not need to be born here to be a productive and contributing member of society. There are many good citizens that were not born in Canada that pay taxes, work hard, raise a family, contribute to the community, are good neighbors and friends. They should not be told to get out.

Your statement also does not take into account the thousands of anchor babies born on this soil. Omar Khadr and his family is an example along with countless of other freeloaders all with large families in tow that come to Canada, drop an anchor baby, then never contribute to society in any shape or form. They are constantly standing with their hand out as well as demanding that we change Canadian law and tradition to suit them. These are the ones that should be told to get out, born here or not.
commented 2016-03-14 13:58:59 -0400
Kelly Weber commented 16 mins ago : “If you’re not born in Canada, get the f*ck out!”

You’ll still be stuck with Turdo & most of the libtards.
commented 2016-03-14 13:56:33 -0400
As many commentators has mentioned & try to justify that Canada needs hundred of thousands of immigrants every year to sustain it’s population growth & development then how come Japan with a low to negative population growth could sustain itself economically & socially???
Canada’s population during 50’s& 60’s stayed between 15 to 20 million (population growth rate of 2%) with an average intake of less than 100,000 immigrants each year. And, it’s a fact that during those 2 decades Canada became more industrialized & developed more than any other years during it’s existence collectively. Historically, Canada never had negative population growth, it’s a lie told by our politicians, liberals & conservatives alike to serve big corporations & build voter base.
If Canada could develop & be a first world developed nation with 20 million people then why do we need more than a million people (300K new immigrants, 400K TFW & 500K foreign students, foreign students are allowed to 30hrs of work each week) added to our 36 million each year now when we have no new industries being build and the old ones shutting down at an alarming rate.
commented 2016-03-14 13:41:24 -0400
If you’re not born in Canada, get the f*ck out!
commented 2016-03-14 12:38:01 -0400
Walter H. Schneider,

You are correct in one aspect only Walter. Before Pierre Trudeau’s machinations that resulted in the multicultural act 1971 and the charter of rights 1982, bureaucratic departments handled many processes including immigration very differently and was superior in most aspects. The old system was not so open to flagrant abuse as is became after the new policies were enacted. But you err about numbers and immigrants. You have bought into the fallacy that we need immigrants to repopulate Canada. As is the population of Canada cannot be sustained, there are not enough employment opportunities available for Canadians, adding more immigrants especially unskilled and unable to speak English puts an even larger strain on the welfare system of each province which results in even higher taxes which then spins the cycle even harder and faster. The reason many women stopped having children or limit the number is because of the expense – which originally was caused by the socialistic feel good Liberals of Pierre’s era that raised taxes astronomically across the board (and that of successive Liberal governments that continue to raise taxes and fees while reducing services).

Put fault where the fault belongs – at the foot of Pierre Trudeau. His disastrous economic and political policies started this downward spiral. His policies are at fault for the low birth rate in Canada. It became a necessity for both parents to work to survive adequately (without social assistance) due to the constant increase in taxes, fees, and levies. Adding even more immigrants will not ease the situation but rather aggravate it more so. At the rate Trudeau is proposing there will be hundreds of thousands of families dependent on welfare system to abuse the socialistic freebies while the working class will stop having children altogether.

Andrew is correct in stating – “Want to make domestic birthrates grow?? Cut taxes. Make government lean and inexpensive.” THAT IS THE ONLY LOGICAL AND PRACTICAL COURSE TO TAKE. Full stop to immigration unless they can prove to be a benefit to Canada and not a financial drain.
commented 2016-03-14 12:31:57 -0400
Canada should have referendums on these issues, provided the voters are informed (which should also be a requirement for voting: intelligence test for the privilege to vote, as voting should never be a right, it is a privilege earned). My MP from years ago said referendums are too much of a nuisance – which is a cop-out. They are easily done and almost cost-free. Just look at any online secured survey, or the security of bank sites which have never failed me. A referendum please, Mr Prime minister, before you steal my money to feed dangerous, useless idiots (Immigrants and refugees).

Mr SCHNEIDER quotes alleged statistics about fertility rates and declining demographics. This is at age-old and fallacious government argument for immigrants. It has no basis in facts, however. Most countries should not take immigrants UNTIL their employment rate is honestly zero and business needs more workers. Canada does not need immigrants – immigrants have not helped our country in any way during my lifetime, and I was old enough to vote for Trudeau Sr’s opponent. I know what i speak of.
No more immigrants! OR refugees.
commented 2016-03-14 11:59:51 -0400
Andrew,
True, TurDumbDoh will be Trump’s useful idiot.

Only another 3 ½ years guys and gals, and the Liberals will have another election meltdown; where their parliamentary seat count will be decimated like in 2011, of 34.

@climatefallacy
commented 2016-03-14 11:45:16 -0400
Walter Schneider, there is nothing wrong with immigration. Canada needs immigration. Canada needs responsible immigration. Measured numbers from different demographics. People who want to be Canadian and assimilate into our culture and laws. Having so many from the middle east means they are almost entirely Muslim. Islam is not particularly compatible with western culture, we need to balance those with people from cultures based on Judeo Christian principals not the laws of Islam. In Islam many wives are acceptable, and their birth rate is out of this world. If we allow more than a handful per year, the demographic will be tipped in no time. We will be outnumbered. The way Trudeau is doing it makes it nothing but a Trojan horse. Cultural jihad is the first step in assuring the expansion of the caliphate, and that is what is going to be accomplished whether boy Trudeau knows it or cares or not.

Trudeau equates responsible, measured, discerning, discriminating, prioritized immigration as racist. It is not.
commented 2016-03-14 11:42:02 -0400
BILL ELDER commented 2 mins ago

you’re looking for a silver lining – there is no silver lining. a country full of rapefugees and police forces that will not protect the masses

just like Eurabia.
commented 2016-03-14 11:38:39 -0400
None of these immigration policies make sense, not from a social or civil perspective – not from an economic or productivity perspective. I have audited dozens of small businesses which employ these unskilled immigrants. They are functionally illiterate and are suited for only to the most basic ask oriented jobs – interface with automated or CAM equipment requires operator manuals and machine interface to be translated into languages other than English – this is an expense for the employer unless they have this in house capability – even then there is an increased level on non conforming output that is a cost absorbed by the owners.

The only positive I can see in the poor immigrant selection process is a pool of perennially dependant cheap labor for sweat shop owners and welfare state parties
commented 2016-03-14 11:25:36 -0400
I am just getting really fed up with all the comments from people who say: “We need these people here, they will pay for my pension”. Many of the incoming migrants will work for pay ‘under the table’ and then send the money back to the ME. They favour their own businesses, where they pay cash. Those business owners then are then free to declare or not declare their income and therefore decrease business tax. The profits from those businesses then go where? ‘Back home’.
commented 2016-03-14 11:16:03 -0400
WALTER H. SCHNEIDER commented 16 mins ago

When the facts show that these rapefugee imports are lie arounds and a financial liability, Canada’s standard of living is headed for the worse.

Want to make domestic birthrates grow?? Cut taxes. Make government lean and inexpensive.

But national socialists like their control, so they strangle their people and import vermin.
commented 2016-03-14 11:14:24 -0400
@ Frank Ewing
agreed. it is the political class in its entirety which is sticking it to us.
commented 2016-03-14 11:01:07 -0400
Steven Hines —-the REBEL should do lengthy segment on that angel.