December 15, 2015

In your face, vegans! Study finds lettuce is “three times worse than bacon”, vegetarian diets bad for environment

Rebel Staff
 

A new study by researchers from the Carnegie Mellon University has found that lettuce is over three times worse in greenhouse gas emissions than eating bacon.

The study analysed the per calorie impact of different foods in terms of energy cost, water use and emissions.

It also found that eating only the recommended “healthier” foods prescribed by the US Department of Agriculture increased a person’s impact on the environment.

According to The Independent, Paul Fischbeck, study co-author said “Lots of common vegetables require more resources per calorie than you would think. Eggplant, celery and cucumbers look particularly bad when compared to pork or chicken.”

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commented 2016-01-04 21:37:17 -0500
The study referenced in the article does not even compare vegetarian or vegan diets. It compares the USDA recommended diet which is different. The only times the study mentions vegetarian is in reference to other studies which all say vegetarians emit less, which is opposite of what the title implies. This particular study did conclude that the “USDA diet” does have higher emissions than the standard US diet, however, the two biggest reasons why that is the case according to this study is because the USDA diet recommends a huge increase in dairy and fish compared to the standard US diet. Vegetarians don’t eat fish. Vegans don’t eat dairy or fish. This study clearly shows that vegetables over all have lower GHG emissions than meat overall. Vegans will replace bacon with other proteins like beans and grains. Guess how they compare to meat. Go on, guess.

Furthermore, because the USDA diet calls for a reduction in sugar, fats and oils, this is where the standard US diet has an advantage because sugar, fats, and oils do have low GHG per calorie, but this has nothing to do with vegetarians or vegans. The study does say that fruit and vegetables do use more energy per calorie compared to meat, and yes vegetarians and vegans eat more fruit and vegetables than meat eaters, but this does not reflect the total “emissions” of fruit and vegetables as the article title implies, because GHG emissions and energy use are two separate categories in this study.
commented 2015-12-22 05:47:53 -0500
@peter Toth;

That was funny and actually you really are correct. I was packing my groceries at a supermarket recently and I got a stinky whiff in the air which was coming from them. I looked over and all their groceries were vegan. The younger girl especially stank and honestly didn’t look healthy at all. True story!
commented 2015-12-16 19:18:46 -0500
@drew,

Read the study, and make your own conclusions. Basically, they divide nutritional value by environmental impact. Lettuce is terrible because it’s essentially worthless from a nutritional standpoint. Vegans view lettuce the same way carnivores do, as a garnish. From a nutritional standpoint, the moment you start introducing actual nutrients, vegetarian options are far superior, if only because of conversion efficiency. That’s not to say that meat is entirely evil; ranged cattle are innocuous and running bison on the prairies would both provide meat and restore natural ecosystems… but using human food to feed animals instead of eating it directly is always going to be wasteful.

This is especially true for pulse crops (peas/beans), which fix their own nitrogen and enrich the soil, reducing the need for energetically costly synthetic nitrogen.
commented 2015-12-16 10:23:07 -0500
What a crock. This study is too flawed to be taken seriously. Even the study authors have said that the findings have been twisted and misrepresented. Nothing has changed. Eating vegan foods rather than meat, eggs, and dairy products is still the easiest and most effective way to combat climate change, as well as air and water pollution, forest destruction, wasted resources, and other problems. Not to mention vegan foods don’t cause billions of animals to suffer and die every year, and that plant-based foods aren’t linked to cancer and other diseases like processed and red meats are.
commented 2015-12-16 09:54:14 -0500
Except that’s not at all what the study said. The research found that vegetarian and vegan staples like kale, rice, potatoes, and spinach all rank much lower than pork, and grains and soy had among the lowest footprints. Sorry, folks – a vegan diet is still best for the planet, human health, and animals.
commented 2015-12-16 05:20:35 -0500
Well, this will have the granola munching, liberal progressive fucktard heads exploding.
Now I’m going to make myself a bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwich. On rye with real mayo of course.
commented 2015-12-16 00:51:26 -0500
We won’t mention the carbon footprint of running a year round high production greenhouse op in the snow belt – don’t want to kill any unicorns with realities.
commented 2015-12-16 00:20:10 -0500
Andrew where died you get that BS?
commented 2015-12-15 23:22:50 -0500
Like most news regarding “studies”, I don’t believe this one either.
commented 2015-12-15 22:20:35 -0500
Hey dummies, if you read the entire article before jizzing your pants in your haste to post this “article”, you’d know that in no scenario did they investigate a vegan or vegetarian diet. All diets studied included dairy and seafood, meaning it’s not vegetarian. In your face, mongoloids.
commented 2015-12-15 18:57:08 -0500
Nobody is eating lettuce to replace bacon. They’re likely eating some sort of legume based substitute (soy/beans) which does provide comparable nutritional value to the bacon, at far lower environmental impact per calorie or gram protein.
commented 2015-12-15 18:46:51 -0500
Peter Toth – that was way too funny!
commented 2015-12-15 18:44:32 -0500
Richard Neufeld commented 5 hours ago
Ezra Left Ant does not seem to know much about the farming community.

He doesn’t seem to know much about anything. He’s the fly in the ointment.
commented 2015-12-15 18:40:56 -0500
Never go backpacking with a Vegan! Ever wonder why they don’t carry pepper spray? Well, one whiff from the noxious emanations that eek out of their butts, and you will understand why NO woodland animals are anywhere near them. ALWAYS insist that you lead the trail, and for the love all that is good and your sense of smell, never walk behind a Vegan on a trail!
commented 2015-12-15 17:35:50 -0500
@dave MACPHERSON – I eat meat quite a bit, along with many fruits, veggies, grains, legumes and dairy. I like junk food every once in a while too. I am an avid green tea and water drinker. I like some wine, the odd cherry cigarillo or smoke as here and there. I hike and walk miles with a backpack. I don’t get the flu shot and haven’t had much more than a sniffle in years. I’m healthy too. So, what is your point?
commented 2015-12-15 17:31:17 -0500
Extra Piss Ant, just a useless troll posting the same thing on every thread.
commented 2015-12-15 16:06:51 -0500
EFA is Gordo Steele who used to pollute the publication Ezra previously wrote for. Steele was the only one ever to spew garbage and lies about farmers getting huge subsidies, thinking his food was raised in the back room of the grocery store. You just can’t get rid of flatus like Steele.
commented 2015-12-15 14:01:06 -0500
EFA claimed, “He calls himself a capitalist!!! lol, when we all know he wouldn’t survive without all the benefits of socialism he gets daily.” Correction, EFA, you wouldn’t survive without farmers. YOU"D STARVE!!!!!
commented 2015-12-15 13:55:49 -0500
Carrots have feelings too and they are still alive when veggie heads devour them.

Where is the humanity! Save the carrots and eat a dead pig.
commented 2015-12-15 13:43:17 -0500
@ EZRA LEFT ANT who said, “Did you hear the about the farmer that got his land for free from his daddy”

Yes, it is call inheritance. This is something even socialists give their children. It’s a human thing to do, not social;ist or capitalist.

EFA said, “got the tax payers to pay for over half his crop insurance premium”

Can you prove this, or is it just something you concocted in your minuscule mind? Prove it or stop lying.

EFA also claimed, " and drives his truck on tax payer roads with purple gas"

Roads that his taxes also paid for, just like everyone else, and that purple gas limits him to a certain radius of his property.

EFA claimed, “He calls himself a capitalist!!! lol, when we all know he wouldn’t survive without all the benefits of socialism he gets daily.”

Clearly you know nothing of farming. You must be a useless socialist.
commented 2015-12-15 13:36:34 -0500
@ Fraser McBurney who said, “I was going to have a ceasar salade for supper but after reading this I’m having a nice sizzling steak”

Hey, both are good together!
commented 2015-12-15 13:34:36 -0500
@ Steve McQueen who said, "Blow its nose, wipe it’s ass, cut it up and put it on my plate. "

Yea, I like a red in the center steak too. Just had one yesterday. Yum!!
commented 2015-12-15 13:33:32 -0500
@ Dave MacPherson said, “I’m Vegetarian – almost Vegan and I’m Healthier than many people around me – WHO HAVE Health Issues – I don’t get sick and others’ do”

I don’t get sick either, except for maybe the odd cold or flu once every 8 or 9 years, and they do not last long, about 2 days. Problem is, from your perspective, I eat a lot of meat and vegies too. I am one of those who you would consider an unhealthier individual because of my diet, but do not get sick. My dad did not either and also smoked like a chimney.

What I am suggesting is not that diet has no effect on one’s health, but that saying it is a vegetarian or even vegan diet is the solution to good health is not fully accurate and does not take into consideration other factors. And I am not suggesting people avoid a vegetarian or vegan diet, but just that the demonetization of eating meat that some (not saying you) vegetarians do, is not correct either.
commented 2015-12-15 13:23:11 -0500
Ezra Left Ant does not seem to know much about the farming community.
commented 2015-12-15 12:35:51 -0500
Did you hear the about the farmer that got his land for free from his daddy, got the tax payers to pay for over half his crop insurance premium, and drives his truck on tax payer roads with purple gas….He calls himself a capitalist!!! lol, when we all know he wouldn’t survive without all the benefits of socialism he gets daily.
commented 2015-12-15 12:26:44 -0500
I was going to have a ceasar salade for supper but after reading this I’m having a nice sizzling steak
commented 2015-12-15 12:15:03 -0500
DAVE MACPHERSON commented 35 mins ago – try not to get so emotional that you can’t comprehend – more CO2 produced by creating one calorie of lettuce vs one calorie of oink.

No one gives a shit how you feel numb-nuts!!
commented 2015-12-15 12:00:38 -0500
The science is settled? At one time, scientists agreed that world was flat, at one time scientists agreed that calories makes you fat (and created a low fat / vitamin billion $ hoax), and now scientist agree that only CO2 caused by man, warms the planet and we are all going to die unless we pay billions to developing countries and shut down our economic engines.
Come on folks, really?
?
commented 2015-12-15 11:42:33 -0500
Blow its nose, wipe it’s ass, cut it up and put it on my plate.

Love beef!!!!