June 19, 2015

Is Mulcair's rise more about Trudeau's fall?

Marissa SemkiwRebel Commentator
 

A few months out from the federal election in the fall, I sit down with Anthony Furey to talk about the latest poll numbers which show Mulcair rising in the polls.

Does this mean anything or is it too early to tell?

Tell me what you think in the comments.

 

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commented 2015-07-04 08:33:48 -0400
Not sure why Mulcair’s serving as a Cabinet Minister in a government dedicated to the breakup of this country is not getting more publicity. In addition, the fact he is a dual citizen of a country that has aided and abetted the separatists in the past needs to be publicly discussed. Where do his loyalties lie?
commented 2015-06-27 10:19:24 -0400
Death threats have become common in these days of identity political corruption.
commented 2015-06-25 12:01:09 -0400
Liza,

The police confirming it make it so.

Don’t be stupid just because you support conservatives. And The Rebel WISHES it was Huff Post and had that kind of impact. Let me guess though – you love Breitbart.
commented 2015-06-25 00:45:15 -0400
The Huff Post is a rag. Daniel Tencer is a ninkompoop. That article does not make it so. Skewed crap is what that is. Typical.
commented 2015-06-23 23:47:11 -0400
Muhammad – The “very vocal” are those who speak up and are heard. First cousins of the very visible.

The anti-feminists are those who claim, as you do, that “so-called feminists” don’t raise our voices “against FGM and harsh treatment of women by Islamists or the status of women in Islamic countries”. That view is anti-feminist because it ignores all of us feminists who constantly speak out about those very issues and get called “victims” and “liberal” and “lesbian” and “feminazi” for doing so, as I have been repeatedly called on this site for pointing out these are problems for Muslim women not just in Islamic states but also increasingly in the west. The repeated denial of our voices is anti-feminist and anti-gender equity, the core value of feminism (and by corollary pro-shariah).

Anti-gay are all those who express hatred for gay people. You see a lot of those views expressed on this site. Just check out any story on this site about Ontario’s premier and you will see lots of anti-gay sentiment. Slurs like “pervert” " disgusting" “pedophile” “child pornographer” etc. are examples.

Anti-equity are all those who oppose equity. Close friends with the anti-feminists.

The pro-terrorists are those like Chad K. who recently posted at therebel.media the view that ISIS atrocities are acceptable to silence, with death, voices like mine that speak out against FGM, child marriage and honour killings (including when they happen in Canada). Chad K. said it but several others posted comments to support his view.

The pro-misogynists are also close relatives of the anti-feminists, anti-equity and pro-terrorist commenters who self-identify as politically conservative. They are those people who call to exclude, demean, marginalize and kill any woman who promotes financial and vocational independence from and equity with men for women. And who hurt women who compete.

The hard right is a relative term that subsumes the others. While of course there are people like this in all parties, my comment was specifically about the topic of why Mulcair is rising and why Trudeau and, more germane to this site, also Harper is dropping in the polls. Harper is down almost ten points since the last election. I say that is in part due to an increasingly vocal hard-right that expresses anti-gay, anti-feminist, anti-equity, pro-terrorist, pro-misogynist ideology.

The hard right is defined by militant pro-life advocates (in the fascist hard right are the pro-life terrorists), by those who want to criminalize homosexuality, by those who advocate genocide (the pro-terrorists), by those who want law to devalue women to half that of men, to deny women employment in the sciences, to deny women the right to compete in sport (the pro-misogynists), by those who want to silence women who speak out against Islamist atrocities in favour of gender equity and who have been quite successful by simply denying our existence (the anti-feminists), and by those Libertarians who want to defeat the inclusive Conservatives and rule as a completey separate and strictly exclusive Conservative movement that defines itself as to the right of traditional Conservativism. Lots of Libertarians here at therebel.media.

Flying the Confederate flag. (Joke – how sad I have to qualify.)

By dividing the right in an effort to replace the Conservative Party of Canada, the hard right may well succeed to usher in an NDP government.

I hope I answered your question to your satisfaction. Cheers!
commented 2015-06-23 23:04:08 -0400
Why, thank you, Jimmy! Right back at you!!

Of course, the Conservative Party will lose at some point and another party take power. It will then be interesting to see if Harper succeeded in his goal to make the Conservative Party of Canada our natural ruling party. Will whoever takes power next win a minority, then mess it up so badly for four years that Canadians then vote back into power another majority Conservative government under a new leader. That has been a major goal for PM Harper. And I wonder also who next will lead the Conservative Party and will s/he skip as even a centrist keel as PM Harper.
commented 2015-06-23 16:12:08 -0400
Great comments Joan and I see these kinds of people all over The Rebel:

“Quit trying to alienate those Conservatives who hold different views on special interest fringe issues. Quit calling them queers if they support human rights. Quit the anti-semitic slurs against Conservatives who oppose misogyny. Quit the ugly demands they leave Conservativism and go join the Liberals, go post on CBC

“The very vocal anti-feminist, anti-gay, anti-equity, pro-terrorist, pro-misogynist, hard right is convincing traditional Conservatves who voted Harper in for the past ten years to think twice”.

This will be a surprise to no one – but there are racist, homophobic and bigoted people that The Rebel attracts and I agree with Joan that it’s these brand of pathetic Canadian conservatives that are making general Canadian conservatives look bad – which in turn may make it so you lose the election.
commented 2015-06-23 16:01:49 -0400
The last place terrorists want to attack to any great degree is Canada. A 9/11 would NEVER happen here, but there is always going to be kooky individuals. Some of you talk like we are living in America.
commented 2015-06-23 15:34:19 -0400
Sorry Bill – I know the truth hurts and you certainly don’t want to admit that maybe you enjoy a place that attracts the extreme bat crazy conservatives – even if you are not one yourself.
commented 2015-06-23 15:29:59 -0400
Dale,

There is no radical right? LOL. Either you are among the extreme right or you are just naïve or you have your head up your ass or you are just plain stupid.
commented 2015-06-23 09:25:05 -0400
Joan ,
Could you please elaborate about your following statement “But the very vocal anti-feminist, anti-gay, anti-equity, pro-terrorist, pro-misogynist, hard right” Who are these people? Any reference? Be frank, name the devils. Rebel or even for that matter SNN was very frank and covering broad range of issues and have never noticed anything like that. Yes they have been projecting pro-life thingy but that cannot be dubbed as anti-feminist. They have been criticizing so-called feminists for the reasons that they employ double standards and are selective in their approach— the case in point not raising voices against FGM and harsh treatment of women by Islamists etc or the status of women in Islamic countries. So please elaborate what kind of conservatives you are referring to and who they are?
commented 2015-06-23 08:03:56 -0400
It’s a long way to the fall election, parties have essentially been campaigning since last fall – in that time we se the periodic polling showing a minority government – as it stands now it is a 3 way race with the LPC recently loosing support to the NDP – this is a watershed election because of the unprecedented length of the campaign. Personally judging by past electoral outcomes and the people I talk with daily across Canada, it is a 3 way race with the edge going to the incumbent as has always been the historic trend. The thing tht is not present in the electorate which indicates a change of government is the broad based attitude that the present government is too stale or corrupt to continue leading the nation – so I figure we will see another CCP government (possibly minority) with the big change coming in the opposition as the NDP barely supplant the Liberals as official opposition – I can live with that because Mulcair is far more ready for the roll than Trudeau has been – then again maybe not – it’s always a dice roll.
commented 2015-06-23 07:48:28 -0400
Ekkos latest poll reports 60% of Canadians are at least considering voting NDP. That is an alarming figure. It should make those on the right who keep trying to shove good, solid Conservatives out think twice. Unite the right. Quit trying to alienate those Conservatives who hold different views on special interest fringe issues. Quit calling them queers if they support human rights. Quit the anti-semitic slurs against Conservatives who oppose misogyny. Quit the ugly demands they leave Conservativism and go join the Liberals, go post on cbc. Because you know what? The polls say your exclusveness is winning. Canadians who were voting Conservative for the past decade are thinking twice. I mean, who wants to be constantly hated, despite paying fees for Conservative memberships, just for supporting Canadian values like gender equity and human rights? Those are values PM Harper stands for. But the very vocal anti-feminist, anti-gay, anti-equity, pro-terrorist, pro-misogynist, hard right is convincing traditional Conservatves who voted Harper in for the past ten years think twice. A pity, that. Because Harper does not stand for those who hate Jews, hate gays, hate gender equity. Quite the opposite.

If the NDP wins, the divisive, exclusive elements in the conservative movement are to blame.
commented 2015-06-22 22:35:35 -0400
There are still over three months to go. Lots can happen. One good terrorist attack can do the trick. Not that we want that. But it’s not like it hasn’t repeatedly been threatened. And some gangsters hiding behind the Anonymous moniker launched that recent antiC-51 hack attack on government data bases. It’s not a reach to think they might do something worse. One good natural disaster even. A tsunami on the west coast. Canadians don’t vote left in bad times unless, like in Alberta, jobs are going down the toilet. But if it’s security or safety, Conservatives get the vote.
commented 2015-06-22 19:59:38 -0400
no it won’t jason canadians will get scared as thomas mulcair brings out his plat form you’ll see
commented 2015-06-22 19:14:35 -0400
It means Canada has taken a permanent turn to the NDP. Bill c51 will guarantee a NDP win
commented 2015-06-22 18:39:04 -0400
I often listen to George Noory throughout the night because I don’t always sleep well. One night recently, he and his guest discussed the increasing global hostility. George said "You can feel it. Something is coming. And it’s coming soon. Can’t say I disagree.

Maybe Harper has established our security well enough so Canada withstands and survives the misfortune. Let’s hope.
commented 2015-06-22 17:24:49 -0400
Liza – it was a story at therebel.media. Hey Ezra, Liza is afraid of stories you post.
commented 2015-06-22 15:51:38 -0400
Muhammad Orakzai: I hope indeed you are wrong, however I fear you may also be correct. That is why I have already begun “battening down the hatches”, as it were for the coming storm.
commented 2015-06-22 15:43:56 -0400
Sky will not fall but Floodgates will defiantly open!
CPC losing coming election or in other words LPC or NDP winning may not bring the sky down but there is every possibility the floodgates will certainly open with a bang. The tax hikes will send a shudder down the spines of all the big businesses which are already hard hit by the cheap labor low cost markets overseas. Resources-based industries will definitely get hurt by enviro-extremists and FN hacktivists agenda. Will this not be enough to put Economy into tail spin? Terrorists will have fun time in face of lower guards (repealing C-51).Mounting of debts will defiantly follow all this. Well you can call me fear-monger I would not mind but I sincerely wish time proves me WRONG
commented 2015-06-22 13:59:00 -0400
Joan: “I hoped posters at therebel.media might be like those at the old SNN where the majority spoke up to defend other posters when the odd time, someone started with the bigoted slurs, even though they may not have agreed with their views, to defend their right to voice them. But that has definitely not been my experience here.” Actually Joan, I think you do an outstanding job of defending yourself and getting your points across. Some of the events you have described, I was not aware of them until I read your post. I don’t always have the opportunity to “tune in” to this site. If you feel I have not been defending you, guilty as charged I suppose! That is due to social conditioning. I was raised in a Military environment. In my upbringing it was reinforced almost every day that I must be able to stand on my own if I am to make my way in the world. I considered that would apply to everyone else. As an aside, this strategy has served my quite well starting with my Military/Coast Guard service up to present day.
commented 2015-06-22 12:49:28 -0400
Well Jimmy, I and most of my Liberal associates and friends do not consider me to be a “Kooky, conspiracy theory conservative” I have no partisan political alignment, and I resent the snide (open) innuendo – as I had told you once before, I refuse to have you define my ideology or politics because you have no Idea who I am or anything else about me, and I have never represented myself as anything other than an individual and a voter, yet you tar me and others like me with ad hominem simply because I may post here. And the final insult to my intelligence is this pathetic attempt at using hearsay as the defining factor in selling your own biased opinion as fact. Frankly I don’t care how many of your friends hate SNN or the Rebel or care to label themselves as so-called “Conservatives” . I am not and I resent your broad based implications and continued attempts to stereotype me and others.

Quite honestly, Your behaviour and intellect betray a person who does not want to engage in dialogue at any meaningful intellectual level, only reflexively insult those who disagree with you. I rank this behaviour as low as the people you presume to feel superior to. It lowers the entire quality of commentary here.
commented 2015-06-22 12:23:31 -0400
@jimmy . . . “The Rebel, but The Rebel attracts the kooky far right/extreme right conservatives.” ? ? ?
In Reality Jimmy . . . there is NO radical right.

When do you see the Right on the steps of the Library?
When do you see the Right camping in parks and protesting pipelines? Never . . .
The Right just want to live their lives, pay minimal taxes to a small efficient government and be left alone.

It is the insane Left that produces the anarchists, marxists, socialist loons that demand that ALL of society follow their Diktates. That is WHY ALL Diktators of the 20th Century were Spawned by the LEFT . . . the left is authoritarian and demand that you do their bidding . . .

The “Thinking Folks” obviously know this . . .
commented 2015-06-22 11:53:16 -0400
Bill,

I said bottom of the barrel conservatives. I have friends who are conservatives and I talk to conservatives on other online destinations who couldn’t stand SNN and in turn The Rebel, but The Rebel attracts the kooky far right/extreme right conservatives. It’s not stereotyping, it is reality.
commented 2015-06-22 10:34:02 -0400
Really good assessment Muhammad O. I think things are unfolding as they should. By election day things will be exactly where they should be. The Liberals and NDP will be properly divided(they won’t all abandon Trudeau) and the Consevatives will have a good shot.
commented 2015-06-22 10:00:09 -0400
While quietly enjoying the Joan Abernethy candid discussion I would like to say a little bit about CPC’s current position. Polls are showing them down so we have to look at the factors. Well, the first and foremost is the ‘regime fatigue’ :10 years is a long period of time. A lot of water has gone under the bridge, thousands of decisions made good ,bad ugly. While not humanly possible to make excellent decisions all the time one must look at the overall picture rather. Are we better off or worst? To me the most important thing is economics and security and on those Two counts— given the global scenario —Harper’s performance is outstanding. But politics is politics if you don’t like someone you would even find fault with the way He/she holds the dinner plate but if you like someone you might not mind if the same plate is slammed into your face. So that is the case with Harper. His political opponents, most of whom doesn’t like Him for their own specific reasons are making issue of anything and everything under the blue. These pressure groups spearheaded by FN activities, environmental extremists, Muslims/Arabs , idealistic ultra anti-west liberals have developed coalition. They were the very people who saw ‘savior’ initially in Trudeau. But after C-51 the scenario changed altogether. Harper knew that this would be unpopular but as true patriotic farsighted great leader and statesman He made a choice and went ahead what He felt was right for Canadians. Muslims/Arabs pressure groups /hacktivists were the first to jump off Trudeau’s ship abandoning Him in favor of Mulcair, the rest of Harper-haters followed. Mulcair knew and made right calculation of winning these groups to his side but by plainly engaging in sheer opportunism at the expense of security of Canadians.
commented 2015-06-22 09:10:48 -0400
Sorry Joan, you post links to vid’s I am quite frankly afraid to click on. Someone said they remembered the situation, and had a bit of a different take on it than you have posted.
commented 2015-06-22 08:47:51 -0400
Jimmy I see you seem to relate to “bottom of the barrel politics” because you slum here a lot and engage in ad homenim attacks when your rationale fails. I see you still have the reflex of stereotyping people and making obtuse broad brush condemnations. It reflects on the partisanism you sell so put it in check if you are going to wear a brand – as you assume so many here do.
commented 2015-06-21 23:51:04 -0400
Hold on Jimmy, if Joan can direct us to exactly what she is describing, you might have a better picture.