May 30, 2016 Meet the group behind the change in CPC marriage policy

James CampbellRebel Columnist

History was made at the CPC on Saturday when the party removed the definition of marriage as “between one man and one woman” from the Conservative Party Policy Declaration.

The group driving the change are called LGBTory, an organization of LGBT conservatives and allies.

A few days ago I met them at their pub gathering, next to the Vancouver Convention center. They go by the tagline the "Rainbow Conservatives," an apt slogan given the colourful individuals that form this group.

This spectrum of characters included the jovial giant Eric Lorenzen, VP Communications for the group, who told me:

"The thought of having to get a licence from the government to get married really sticks in my craw. However, we have the legal system that we have, and marriage isn't going away. Our position is that, since the government licences marriage, the CPC's official policy to deny marriage licences to same-sex couples infringes on the legal rights of same-sex couples."

He went on to say:

"More than that, our biggest concern is that the CPC's policy on marriage (they're the only party with ANY policy on marriage of any kind) repels centrist voters who would otherwise be our allies on issues like small government, individual rights, low taxes, etc. These voters are essential to winning elections."

I also spoke to the president of the group, business owner Doc Von Lichtenberg. With a Gandalf-like beard and enchanting deep voice, he was as interesting a man as his name suggests. He told me:

"We don't want to change the CPC's marriage policy; we want the CPC to have NO marriage policy whatsoever. We want the contentious articles in the Policy Declaration removed, not replaced with something else."

Not everyone at the gathering was gay. I also spoke to some of the straight allies Natalie Pon (Edmonton West Policy Chair) and Joseph Heap (President of Fort McMurray-Cold Lake), co-sponsors of the resolution.

“We want to remove having marriage defined in the CPC policy declaration. It currently states that the Party supports legislation defining marriage as between one man and one woman” said Natalie.

“We want to create a more inclusive party that supports personal freedoms.” said Joseph. “It's time to get rid of this part of our policy declaration and move on. All leadership contestants to date have been supportive and we don't see this becoming an issue again in the future."

LGBTory should be proud of what they have achieved today. And I’m sure I speak for everyone in the LGBT community in expressing our gratitude.

(PHOTO: Natalie Pon, Joseph Heap and other LGBTory members)

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commented 2016-07-25 19:00:11 -0400
In Canada 1.3% of the population claim to be gay. In the USA 1.7% claim to be gay. Yet they seem to be responsible for over 25-30% off ALL news stories!!!!! 29% of Canadians are Obese while 35.7% of Americans are Obese. Yet our schools have PINK DAY to bring awareness to bullying of gays. I almost fit into the 29% of Canadians and I can tell you I was bullied to death in school. This led to me fighting back and ending up in the Principles office quite a bit or being sent home for the usual two days. They finally threatened to expel me however this was in my final year of high school. Since those doing the bullying were sports types, they were more important to the school than I was. I just wanted an education.

It seems to me that there are many other groups of children more at risk of bullying and abuse strictly by the numbers yet at schools the attention is directed right at LGBTQPZXYQ-9 *^% and not at these other groups. 1.3% percent people. There are probably more students with two penis’s than there are gays distributed across Canadian schools. Why so important if not somebodies AGENDA! After all, Gays are protected under the criminal code just like everybody else. It is obvious it is just another ploy to brainwash.
commented 2016-06-02 21:15:22 -0400
“We want to create a more inclusive party that supports personal freedoms.” *clap, clap, cla..)
In the parts of Canada I grew up in, you could have all the “freedom” you wanted to have, provided you kept your end of the bargain. Except for some of the ridiculous religious folk, we didn’t try to convert anyone to anything, we didn’t look to someone else to validate our lives, we were too busy living. Still are. (and no, I’m not any kind of religious, so that nips that thought in the bud ;) ) If you got out of line, you got put in your place. Usually, by our parents first, then others later as we got older and forgot ourselves when we should have known better… We learned how to learn FIRST. Everything else followed. As a quote from a really bad movie once said, “It ain’t rocket surgery!” You want personal freedoms? What say you start with personal responsibility? Despite what you’ve heard, none too few of us take that very. seriously. Start there and by next election I might find myself wanting to vote for you.
commented 2016-06-01 03:34:11 -0400
Jan G commented 12 hours ago
Priests do not become pedophiles….pedophiles become Priests

Jan, I completely agree. The assumption the pedophilia was ever wide spread and rampant in the Catholic priesthood is completely false. The pedophiles who became priests were pedophiles long before entering the seminary. I was a cradle Catholic, and as a youngster, I was an alter boy. I left the Catholic Church about 10 years ago because the more I studied scripture, the more I had difficulty reconciling some Catholic doctrines with the Bible. And the explanations I got from Catholic theologians for those discrepancies just didn’t cut it. Leaving was the hardest thing I’ve ever done in my life, but I still have great respect for the Catholic church (though I wonder about the current Pope) and find great wisdom in the writings of many Catholic theologians. It would just be hypocritical of me to continue receiving the sacraments if I don’t embrace the whole of Roman Catholic doctrine. But getting back to my time as an alter boy; I was an alter boy from the 2nd grade. right up through to the 8th grade, in four different parishes. The first parish was Saint Ann’s in North Edmonton, which shared it’s property with a Franciscan Monastery, so we had a different priest almost every Sunday, not to mention the countless Franciscan brother constantly roaming around. Still, with all that exposure, I never even heard of any molestation until it first hit the News long, after I had entered adulthood. I don’t want to trivialize or make light of those who have experienced abuse at the hands of Catholic priests. It’s a horrible betrayal of trust. But if it was rampant, I certainly would have experienced it as a child, as my exposure to countless Roman Catholic priests and brothers was much greater than most alter boys my age. I’m sure it happened, but with no more frequency than teachers, scout masters, sports coaches, or with any other authority figure who have access to vulnerable children. Because it sure didn’t happen to me!
commented 2016-06-01 01:27:44 -0400
I agree with anonymous. The GLBT crowd has incredibly thin skin.
commented 2016-05-31 19:01:49 -0400
Here is my response to Sue Ann Levy who represents the Rainbow Conservatives with her columns We don’t need a month of Pride

Its 2016, we should not have any Pride parades at all. They only cater to heterophobic Wynne types who see homophobia under every rock and place

Furthermore, regarding your column

Why should I embrace your homosexual lifestyle when I don’t expect you to embrace my heterosexual lifestyle, and would be called impertinent if I did ?

Is not this preferential treatment in the name of equality?

No different than Transsexuals wanting preferential treatment in the name of equality by using the bathroom based on what they consider their gender to be, not as Heterosexuals and Homosexuals must use the washroom based on their actual physical parts

As well, Gay pride parades are also examples of preferential treatment in the name of equality in allowing public exhibitionism because they are homosexual

Finally, it would have been considerate to other people’s feelings if gays would have come up with a different term for gay union and leave the term “marriage” as a union between a man and a woman.

But when have I ever seen the gay movement ever show consideration for other groups like they expect other groups to show consideration for them.

It is such selfishness and preferential treatment in the name of equality by gay activists that is creating anti-gay attitudes, not certain religious bigots as the gay movement always blames because they never take responsibility for their actions.
commented 2016-05-31 18:05:11 -0400
Ken Joyce, good comment! I agree with what you said. But you don’t expect that Michael Mann is capable of reading it, do you? I really don’t think he is that bright.
commented 2016-05-31 15:02:35 -0400
Priests do not become pedophiles….pedophiles become Priests.

The Catholic Church is the biggest target. Always was and always will be. Sexual predators will seek out the environment best suited to fulfill their sexual needs and what better place is a trusting, dependent and vulnerable environment than Church, schools, boy scouts etc.

The media loves to carry stories of pedophiles within the Catholic Church, but you very seldomly hear about the fathers of children who sexually assault every one of their own children and then go off to find another group/environment to continue their sickness, eg volunteer groups, boy scouts.
commented 2016-05-31 13:47:53 -0400
Wow! Mann your the Mann

Just reading your two posts after mine I can tell that 1. You are lying about reading the Bible or you have no clue what it was you were reading. 2. You have a completely ignorant idea of history, progression as defined by the left and so-called advancement.

Here are some facts for you to chew on…

1. The Bible – The old testament prophesizes the coming of Christ. From Adam to today. So in effect Christianity began with the beginning of man. The only people who deemed it a cult were those with the most to lose ie. the Romans and the Jewish religious establishment who chose not to accept Jesus as the Son of God – I understand that you call this a fairy tale and that is your business and future anchor.

2. Human Advancement – In the last 100 years ONLY the human race has killed over 200 million people. This was not from draught or famine or natural disaster, it was a direct conflict between so-called “progressive” ideologies. All the instigators of this mass extermination were the Godless Socialist LEFT or non-Christian Governments. The fact remains that the Left has, since the 1930’s, defined for us what left and right is. Even today they call people concerned about idiotic immigration policies FAR RIGHT! It is nonsense. Conservatives and people concerned about immigration are NOT right at all. If you define Fascism as right than you effectively have Socio-Communism being both FAR RIGHT AND FAR LEFT. Adolph Hitler was a SOCIALIST. Mussolini ( who coined the term Fascism) was a SOCIALIST. Japan was controlled by a Militaristic Government. Russia was Marxists/Socialist/Bolshevik/Communist. Note the trend here. Who was the voice of sanity when all this was going on? CONSERVATIVES. While they also have issues, without them and their majority belief in God, you could have kissed the world goodbye! To this very day, with the exception of some very small episodes, the Left has created the diarrhea we live in now. From Marx to the present day destabilization of the Middle East. At the crux of all this, the inability of man to rule over himself. The arrogance of man to think he could do it without God.

3. While Jesus and his flock began to set the world straight, human intervention ( which amounts to power and greed ) took over. Yet even with the polluting of God’s intervention, Christianity has survived. Godless morons like to talk about the Crusades and Inquisition as if it had any real link with Christianity. Again left wing propaganda. Yet, Christianity survived this infiltration and complete misinterpretation. Sorry Catholics but there was nothing Christian about the Catholic church at this time. However all you need to do is look at the leaders of the Church to understand this. The Church deliberately kept the true word of God from the people so that they could convince those people to do their bidding. This is not a Christian example but an example of human corruption that exists in ALL forms of government.

4. In total, the HUGE difference here is DOGMA. One cannot defend these actions using the Holy Bible. HOWEVER one can defend them using the manifestos of humanist dogmas like National Socialism, National Communism, Militarism, Socialism, Islam. It is WRITTEN in their guide books! It is quoted from their human leaders.

5. Slavery – As I said before, God did NOT send his Son to this earth to overthrow what had been done through violence and destruction. That would be a human solution. However for Mann to state that somehow blacks were the only slaves is ludicrous and only reveals his ignorance of the past. Slavery was international. There were no colour boundaries. In the Old Testament we read about the Jewish people being enslaved. White Europeans were enslaved as well as Asians. No one has any exclusive claim to that aspect of human history. In fact the Barbary Slave trade, which was predominantly WHITE slaves was largely instigated by Muslims and Blacks. It FAR exceeded any Black slave trade to the Americas. Then there is the recently revealed FACT that free blacks in the American North HAD THIER OWN BLACK SLAVES !!!!! One can argue that all humanity in one way or another are slaves. In fact I would rather be a black slave in the South than be a poor white on the streets of London at the same time. Starvation, slave labour, beatings and sexual abuse, families being split up never to be seen again etc. etc. was not by-far just a black tragedy. People who think this way are delusional and ONLY think that way in order to continue their cry-me-a-river, feel-sorry-for-me, that gives me an excuse to behave like an idiot mentality. While some people have risen above it, some continue to use it as an excuse.

6. You will note, if you actually read the Bible this time, that Jesus obviously had woman followers. Some of these women held high positions in the faith. Can you find that in Islam? However what revisionist historians like MANN completely forget is that some of the most powerful woman on earth never lifted a finger to make the lives of their fellow woman any better. Some of the most powerful women like Catherine the Great, Elizabeth I and Queen Victoria had the reigns of power to make change. Mann also forgets that most of those who actually propelled women’s rights to a level that effective change could be made WERE MEN!!! As I stated on here before, go to elections Canada and you will see that it was not just woman who could not vote! there were also times when certain women could vote and men could NOT!

7.Sexual behaviour. Anyone with a brain knows that homosexuality is a behaviour. No matter what dribble MANN wants to spew, you were not born that way. You are trying to tell me that you were born with a lisp and with a walk like a woman! I’d love to see that baby. You are trying to tell me that certain cleeks of Lesbians are born with a penchant for buzz cuts and a hankering to wear men’s cloths. Educated people thinking that it is a genetic occurrence. Really. Just take a minute or two to actually think about that with your politically correct dunce hat off. Ok. it is genetic that we have homosexuals that act like men, act like women, act like ???. We have bi-sexual, transsexual, cross dressers, lesbians who look and act like women, lesbians who look and act like men. And the list keeps growing. Wow ! genetics can create an entire new sub-species of human overnight! Please explain how all that can be genetic and how you can be “born” that way. It is a complicated mess, but please grow up. Pretty soon you will need a book the size of the Oxford Dictionary to categorize all the variants of gay and gay related sexual BEHAVIOR. I knew genetics could be complicated but MANN!! The simplicity of it all is obvious to anyone with a brain – Penis ( boy ) vagina (girl ) anus ( poop ). How much more simple can you get outside of metal illness. I do think pedophilia is next as there are already reports of pedophile groups seeping through the cracks of the sewer. MANN also comments about Catholic priests like they are not human. Why is it that a Catholic priest who molests boys is a pedophile but NOT A HOMOSEXUAL pedophile? Again a trick of the left and the media not to implicate their buddies.

8. The final fact is MANN’s idea of human ADVANCEMENT. This is the biggest killer of all. There is a reason why it says in the Bible for people to be content. Love, Contentment and Forgiveness are vitally important, advancement IS NOT. For Advancement can ( I am not stating it always does ) destroy Love, Contentment and Forgiveness. Advancement is almost entirely done for personal gain or conquest. Almost EVERY form of so-called advancement has been used to control or destroy. From the striking of flint to the computer. The internet was originally a covert means of intelligence communication. The US ( actually international ) and Soviet Space programs were derived from the NAZI experimentation and the V-1 and V-2 projects. You could go on and on and on. The fact remains that human’s only seem to really advance when they are killing each other. A good magazine to read is Military Technology. People would be shocked at exactly how much of what we use today is derived from military conquest, control and defence. All this would be made redundant if people simply listened to God – Love, Contentment and Forgiveness. Ever wonder why we just seem to trade one adversary for another???? It is an endless cycle. Why do you think that is? God is NOT going to reward this thinking and behaviour. The further down the path of evil we go, the cycles will only continue until we finally destroy ourselves. Thanks to people like Bill Clinton, we have Bin Ladens group still around, we have a nuclear north Korea and very soon, mark my words, thanks to Obama, we will have a nuclear Iran. A country that largely believes in a doomsday Islam. Let us not forget a nuclear Pakistan and nukes possibly creeping out of the former Soviet Union. Sounds wonderful eh! GO ADVANCEMENT!!!!!

9. Death – Its not a bad thing if you believe in God. I have a feeling that people like MANN are absolutely terrified of death. Personally the work of the Godless makes death more and more appealing as the days go by. However we all have a purpose to fulfill on this earth. Rather than a selfish advancing existence, Christians look to the soul to help humanity. If humanity does not want to listen – fine.

I don’t want to hurt people and I know my criticism of Gays for one can be harsh however I am fed up with the lies and deceit. As people I love them and I pray for them and if they chose to live that life, that is their business. I am not going to throw them off the top of a building. It is only when Governments, School Boards and the Media try to force it down my throat that I have to fight back. Not with violence but by simply exercising my rights in a supposedly democratic system.

10. Kelly Weber – I understand that it was the conservatives who brought the issue up at their conventions HOWEVER we also NEVER stop hearing about it from the other parties and the media. If these groups did not continue in their delusion that somehow gays still have issues with rights, I highly doubt it would have been an issue at the convention.
commented 2016-05-31 13:28:14 -0400
It’s moral to kill babies? MM is one of the “they” in “they shall regard evil as good and good as evil”
commented 2016-05-31 13:24:54 -0400
Of course bestiality is next. How can you not see that? Marriage was marriage. A normal convention of where a man joins a woman and populates the earth. If marriage means anything now of course marrying one’s dog is next. Will likely be faster than we think. I predict deviant groups asking for it within the next three years.
commented 2016-05-31 00:29:04 -0400
And there’s Michelle Rempel, mugging in a photo of CINOs.

This is the face of the future of the CPC – wildly left-wing, Progressivist-Sodomites running the whole shitshow into the ground.
commented 2016-05-30 23:39:22 -0400

You don’t need to be an “expert” to know what Jesus stood for. But it is ironic that religious people don’t seem to know. They act like Jesus would be voting for Trump.
commented 2016-05-30 23:32:36 -0400
So Michael Mann is the expert on “what Jesus stood for” and Maurice says the second coming "will either happen or it won’t.

But I get the last word. At least for the time being.
commented 2016-05-30 23:13:25 -0400

Do you really think that one day we will turn on the TV and there is Breaking News that Jesus Christ has come back?
commented 2016-05-30 23:04:51 -0400
We’ll see, Michael Mann, we’ll see. It will either happen or it won’t. Neither you nor I get the last word.
commented 2016-05-30 22:36:47 -0400

Don’t hold your breath for the second coming of Jesus.

The reality is that even if Jesus did come back, he certainly wouldn’t be siding with conservatives, who are hateful and bigoted. Even Jesus would love gay people.

Jesus would also be deemed a socialist, which of course goes against conservatives/Republicans. It’s actually amazing how religious people don’t actually have a clue about what Jesus stood for.
commented 2016-05-30 22:31:57 -0400

The very reason why abortion is legal in the first place is because it was deemed to be the moral thing to do.

Abortion is never going to go away, so do you prefer back alley abortions with coat hangers with the potential for women to die in the process or is legal abortion the more humane choice?
commented 2016-05-30 21:28:51 -0400
Ken Joyce , I completely agree with your comments. I vote, and I think it’s important that we vote, but I have long ago ceased believing that there’s a political solution to the problems facing the nation and the world. Our problems are not financial or cultural, they’re moral and spiritual. Change cannot come from the top down, but must come from the bottom up, from the grass roots. In other words, a good old fashioned Holy Ghost Revival. It’s happened before and it can happen again. Our weapons are prayer and fasting. It requires all believers in the Lord Jesus Christ to humble themselves, get on there knees, beg His forgiveness for our sins and pray for the healing of our land, and for our brothers and sisters around the world. We no longer live under a political system that embraces moral absolutes, as we once did. If there’s any doubt about that, all one has to do is look at Abraham Lincoln’s proclamation 97 issued just months before the battle of Gettysburg. and ask ourselves if any President or Prime Minister in the free world would take such a stand today. Here’s the Proclamation:

“Whereas it is the duty of nations as well as of men to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon, and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord; And, insomuch as we know that by His divine law nations, like individuals, are subjected to punishments and chastisements in this world, may we not justly fear that the awful calamity of civil war which now desolates the land may be but a punishment inflicted upon us for our presumptuous sins, to the needful end of our national reformation as a whole people? We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of Heaven; we have been preserved these many years in peace and prosperity; we have grown in numbers, wealth, and power as no other nation has ever grown. But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us, and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us. It behooves us, then, to humble ourselves before the offended Power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and forgiveness. Now, therefore, in compliance with the request, and fully concurring in the views of the Senate, I do by this my proclamation designate and set apart Thursday, the 30th day of April, 1863, as a day of national humiliation, fasting, and prayer. And I do hereby request all the people to abstain on that day from their ordinary secular pursuits, and to unite at their several places of public worship and their respective homes in keeping the day holy to the Lord and devoted to the humble discharge of the religious duties proper to that solemn occasion. All this being done in sincerity and truth, let us then rest humbly in the hope authorized by the divine teachings that the united cry of the nation will be heard on high and answered with blessings no less than the pardon of our national sins and the restoration of our now divided and suffering country to its former happy condition of unity and peace. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed.”

The answer is, of course that kind of proclamation by a western democratic government could never stand today, and I’m not sure we should expect it to. Just look at the vile, vehement rhetoric leveled at Stockwell Day by Hedy Fry during the 2000 Federal election. Day had made a commented just in passing that, as a Christian, he believed that Jesus Christ was the one true God of the Universe. That doesn’t seem like an earth-shattering revelation to me. After all, that’s what we Christians believe, just as Hindus believe their Religion to be exclusively true, Muslims believe in the exclusiveness of their God and Atheists, like Michael Mann, believe in the exclusive truth of their concept of reality. However, Ms. Fry claimed that in making such a statement, Day demonstrated narrow-minded intolerance, insensitivity, complete indifference to other faiths and was totally dismissive of all people of other faiths. She went on to say that Day’s statement was an insult to every other faith group in Canada. This triggered a thunderous round of applause from the crowd and seemed to receive the endorsement of the Prime Minister. When Fry made her attacks personal simply because Day claimed to believe what the doctrine of his faith taught, it was Fry who was demonstrating narrow-minded intolerance, not Day. There seems to be a perverse view of what it means to be tolerant these days, and that view is prevalent throughout Canada. For some strange reason we seem to have equated tolerance with left-wing liberalism, moral relativism, never “offending” anyone’s delicate sensibilities unless they disagree with leftist ideology, and a complete rejection of all belief in any form of definitive, objective truth. But the reality is definitive, objective truth does exist. Some things really are true. However, I don’t think we can expect anything different from Government, as their primary objective is to get elected, and that’s not a moral or spiritual concept. Therefore, it falls upon us to pray for the nation and the world. When Jesus returns, all will be made right.
commented 2016-05-30 21:28:43 -0400
“It is entirely moral that a woman has control over her own body and that supersedes the glob inside of her that isn’t remotely “children”. You need to understand the difference between a fetus that isn’t viable outside of the womb and actual children. "

What a perfect example of moral subjectivity. Thanks, Mike, for the example.

Redefining the life inside the woman as a “the glob”, Jimmy Da Silva, does not make it “a glob”.

However, I have had this conversation with you a long, long time ago, Jimmy. I am not going into this again.

Now you may not be Jimmy Da Silva from many months ago, but you talk almost identical to him, so excuse my confusion if I am wrong. I am sure you would deny it even if I am right.
commented 2016-05-30 21:21:57 -0400

It is entirely moral that a woman has control over her own body and that supersedes the glob inside of her that isn’t remotely “children”. You need to understand the difference between a fetus that isn’t viable outside of the womb and actual children.
commented 2016-05-30 21:05:10 -0400
Michael said, “Christianity didn’t invent right and wrong or morality – that existed long before Christianity started out as a cult. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.”

I didn’t say that Christianity invented right and wrong, I said the “objective standard of the law in our society is based upon Christianity.”

You should learn to read … or maybe it is a comprehension problem that you have. Either way you were wrong about what I said.

“But apparently Priests are fine with fucking little boys as they spew about God and religion. Don’t you find it odd that there is chaos going on in the church and it’s being covered up on top of that?”

It is reprehensible, no question about that. Shall we compare the sin sickness of the non-Christian community to that of the Christian community? You will find that all people do things that are wrong. But what does that have to do with Christianity being the basis of the Canadian society?

At no point did I ever claim that Christians were perfect.

How is your lust for murdering children going? Is that moral, atheist boy?
commented 2016-05-30 20:55:11 -0400

Sure there is objective standard – murder isn’t subjective for example.

Christianity didn’t invent right and wrong or morality – that existed long before Christianity started out as a cult. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

You also don’t have to read the Bible or believe in God to know that murder is wrong. But apparently Priests are fine with fucking little boys as they spew about God and religion. Don’t you find it odd that there is chaos going on in the church and it’s being covered up on top of that?

How’s that for morality, God boy?
commented 2016-05-30 20:46:30 -0400
I suspect that the CPC has had the wind knocked out of it in the past year, much as what happened with the Ontario Conservative Party. The Ontario party has slipped quickly into moral turpitude and I wonder if the federal party will follow suit.
commented 2016-05-30 20:41:41 -0400
Michael claims, “Morality is subjective”

Yes, that is what our liberal society claims, that morality is fluid and based upon person preference. A society cannot exist for long when they believe “morality is subjective” for obvious reasons, no one could agree on a standard by which the society operates. No objective standard means chaos.

Don’t you find it odd that the objective standard of the law in our society is based upon Christianity?

You would not be able to claim that “morality is subjective” unless you live in a stable society based upon objective ethical standards.

Don’t fret your little mind over what I just said, because I know you will not agree with it. Your ego will not allow for that.
commented 2016-05-30 20:24:38 -0400

It is hilarious that I was making a joke regarding Caligula, but that you actually view Canada this way.

Morality is subjective, so yes – it is better that gay people have rights. Perhaps you should get the fuck out of MY country and go live with Dieter Cunt in Texas.
commented 2016-05-30 19:46:54 -0400
Why did not they ask the LBGT group to come up with a different term for homosexual marriage/union?

It would have resulted in inclusion and also showed respect for the feeling of heterosexuals, many of whom are not religious, that the term “marriage” is a union between a man and a woman.

Then again,these cons never supported a movement that would show respect and equality for all rights by requiring Transsexuals to use the washroom based on their physical parts like Heterosexuals and Homosexuals must used.

Rainbow Conservatives are no different than other Left-wing LGBT group wanting privilege in the name of equality and inclusion
commented 2016-05-30 19:25:30 -0400
Canada is a country. Caligula was the name given to a person. The one cannot turn into the other.

But if you are referring to the moral decay of Rome at the time Caligula was emperor, then you might be comforted to know that Canada is already quickly approaching that state now and in some ways has gone beyond Rome.

I am fairly certain I will see it get much worse … or for you as a morally deprave person, I guess it would be “much better”, wouldn’t it.
commented 2016-05-30 18:59:46 -0400

Well hopefully it gives you comfort that life is short and you won’t be around to see how Canada turned into Caligula. Death will give you peace of mind.
commented 2016-05-30 18:21:45 -0400
Many people, especially non-Christians, literally do not have the ability to comprehend the moral degradation in our society. They always perceive it as “progressive.”