September 29, 2016

Liberals plan to regulate vaping — but should do THIS first

Holly NicholasRebel Commentator
 

The Liberals announced that they’ll be following up with new steps to regulate electronic cigarette use.

E-cigarettes vaporize flavoured fluids that typically contain nicotine and have been used as an alternative to tobacco in order to help people quit the habit. It’s not 100% safe due to the presence of chemicals that are sometimes used in the fluids but vaping has been found to be much less harmful than smoking. In fact 95% less harmful, and it’s helped scores of people quit tobacco.

The Liberals suggest that the use of electronic cigarettes is a “growing phenomenon” and that 87,000 Canadians will become daily smokers this year, many of those being youth. They want stricter regulations for e-cigarettes, which could mean that harm reduction in the form of a safer alternative for smokers could become less accessible.

The main concern expressed by the Liberals is they want to deter youth from smoking, citing that there’s been a 20% increase in youth and adult vapers combined, but statistics on youth increases in vaping aren’t reliable.

If the Liberals want to regulate vaping, they should look at production first. There aren’t very many rules that come along with manufacturing and it’s such a new technology that it’s difficult to know what the potential health effects are with any certainty.

There is a lot of questionable data associated with the assumptions the Liberals are making on this decision, but one thing that isn’t questionable is a person’s right to harm reduction measures that save lives even if those measures aren’t 100% safer.

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commented 2016-09-30 22:24:44 -0400
Good one HOLLY
Safer then tobacco or marijuana
commented 2016-09-30 10:59:39 -0400
The move has no basis in public safety, or actual study. Just another crass prehensile move by big government left to shake down an industry and the consumer – nothing more complicated or lofty than that.

Vaping, smoking, toking is a personal choice that really is no business of the government’s

Ascribing any moral motivation in Liberal governments legislating in personal affairs is denial of their track record for using any miniscule opportunity to expand government.
commented 2016-09-30 09:25:05 -0400
“Drew Wakariuk commented 6 hours ago
Andrew drugs are very available , when i did smoke the wacky stuff i think maybe out of 15 years ,there was a total of 7 days i could not find any. And my friends who got into the hard drugs never had a problem getting it. And vape are not TOO freely available. "

We’re talking from a legal standpoint, of course, which is the intent of legislation…
commented 2016-09-30 03:07:03 -0400
Andrew drugs are very available , when i did smoke the wacky stuff i think maybe out of 15 years ,there was a total of 7 days i could not find any. And my friends who got into the hard drugs never had a problem getting it. And vape are not TOO freely available.
commented 2016-09-30 02:09:20 -0400
Hi Holly. I would have never guessed you used to be a smoker. I guess that explains your stance.
commented 2016-09-29 22:50:23 -0400
“Sandra Mercer commented 5 hours ago
I thought ‘harm reduction’ Liberal style mean safe injection sites complete with chill lounges. Ok so being stricter on e-sigs but looser on marijuana and hard drugs? Someone explain it to me cause I don’t get it. "

Pertains to minors. The regulations for vaporizers would (in theory) prevent under-18s form getting them. In both cases, adults would be able to access.

Yes, they are being harsher on vaping and looser on soft drugs, but it actually represents a convergence of laws since one is too freely available and the other technically illegal.
commented 2016-09-29 19:14:56 -0400
I wonder if they would have the same health concerns for their new pot retail monopoly -

The American Lung Assn, says Smoke is harmful to lung health, whether from burning wood, tobacco or marijuana – toxins and carcinogens are released from the combustion of materials. Smoke from marijuana combustion has been shown to contain many of the same toxins, irritants and carcinogens as tobacco smoke. Smoking pot is as dangerous as smoking tobacco or any other plant based combustible.

Maybe they’d be OK with vaping hash oil?
commented 2016-09-29 18:59:48 -0400
Sorry Don Smith, I had not read your posting before posting mine.

Yours is much more succinct.
commented 2016-09-29 18:56:42 -0400
Regulate = increased Taxation

Increased taxation = increased graft

Very simple equations

Regulate tobacco, increase taxes.

Regulate alcohol, increase taxes.

Regulate Carbon, increase taxes.

Regulate sugar, increase taxes.

Regulate fast food, increase taxes.

Legalize and then regulate marijuana, increase taxes.

Regulate vaping, increase taxes.

Regulate anything that gives the average joe comfort, increase taxes.

All in order for the champagne socialists to have a great lifestyle paid by others.
commented 2016-09-29 18:43:53 -0400
Liberals sure do know how to create jobs for themselves. - How many fake regulators is it going to take to control vaping ? Hows about just make yourselves look good by doing ‘nothing’ and having the MSM make it Front Page News that you have SAVED taxpayers $485,000,000—— because of a new scientific study that shows Vaping actually saves lives
commented 2016-09-29 18:43:52 -0400
Liberals sure do know how to create jobs for themselves. - How many fake regulators is it going to take to control vaping ? Hows about just make yourselves look good by doing ‘nothing’ and having the MSM make it Front Page News that you have SAVED taxpayers $485,000,000—— because of a new scientific study that shows Vaping actually saves lives
commented 2016-09-29 18:16:53 -0400
Don Smith – you nailed it, it’s all about the taxes. They don’t want everyone to quit smoking using a device that they can’t tax. The hypocrisy of the liberal’s is truly astounding. When it comes to illegal drugs though it’s a different story, because the liberal’s are the pushers, and they and their friends are making money.
commented 2016-09-29 18:01:42 -0400
Vaping should remain prohibited anywhere cigarettes are prohibited. I’m thinking of the smokers who are trying to quit cold turkey instead of exchanging one habit for another. These people certainly don’t need somebody huffing a vaporizer in their face on the bus, in the bus shelter, or in the tavern.
We recently had a case in Calgary where a medical marijuana user got away with multiple charges of using, believe it or not, a bong in bus shelters, where smoking tobacco is not allowed. This is insane, whatever happened to the rights of people who live with allergies and asthma?
commented 2016-09-29 17:48:58 -0400
I thought ‘harm reduction’ Liberal style mean safe injection sites complete with chill lounges. Ok so being stricter on e-sigs but looser on marijuana and hard drugs? Someone explain it to me cause I don’t get it.
commented 2016-09-29 17:34:36 -0400
The problem with vaping is that it is not taxed as heavily as cigarettes. New regulations = new taxes = problem solved.