December 17, 2015

McGuinty “aides” charged in gas plant scandal but what about McGuinty and Wynne?

Brian LilleyRebel Co-Founder

By now you’ve likely heard about charges against two aides to former Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty coming out of the police investigation into the gas plant scandal. 

Headlines used the description of “aides” but describing David Livingston and Laura Miller as aides makes it sound like they carried his bags or scheduled his meetings. These two were more than that, they were respectively Chief of Staff and Deputy Chief of Staff meaning that Livingston and Miller were the two most powerful people in the then premier’s office.

This all goes back to the Ontario Liberal Party’s decision to cancel natural gas electrical plants for fear of losing seats in Mississauga and Oakville. But the cancellations on the already under construction plants also cost a lot of money. The Liberals claimed it only cost $230 million but it was later revealed to cost nearly one billion dollars.

It was a political decision so why are Livingston and Miller being fired? Well because as opposition parties tried to find out more information, they were stonewalled by a lack of evidence.

Why a lack of evidence? Because not only were emails deleted but hard drives were wiped clean, back ups destroyed. According to police reports Livingston hired Miller’s common law partner Peter Faist, a computer tech, to wipe the hard drives clean. So now Livingston and Miller are facing charges for “breach of trust, mischief in relation to data and misuse of a computer system to commit the offence of mischief.”

But what were they covering up? Why were they so desperate to delete files? Were they trying to protect their boss Dalton McGuinty? What about the current premier Kathleen Wynne? What was she saying, seeing or receiving in those emails? Wynne was not only a cabinet minister when these decisions were made, she was co-chair of the Liberal election campaign in 2011 when the party, not the government but the party made these decisions in the heat of an election campaign.

Will Wynne even be questioned on this? She was at the table as these decisions were made but she is not being held to account, just as she and her close friend Pat Sorbara were protected while Gerry Lougheed was charged with bribery in the Sudbury by-election scandal. And what of McGuinty? Why is he not charged? Why is he in the clear? His lawyer Ron Caza has issued a statement saying that McGuinty did nothing wrong.

I simply don’t believe that. I don’t think we’ve seen all the evidence and the reason we haven’t is that McGuinty’s staff apparently deleted it. Convenient.

I wonder how many more charges, how many more corruption investigations it will take before Ontario voters decide it is time to be done with these Liberals.


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commented 2015-12-21 09:31:30 -0500
Wynnie thinks that she is free and clear in her thievery and mismanagement of public funds, but one day she will stand and be judged. You can run Wynnie but you can’t hide forever, your day is coming!
commented 2015-12-20 14:36:00 -0500
A lot of us Ontarians have been trying to get rid of Wynne and her ilk for a long time. Our riding, and a lot of other rural Ontario ridings have been solidly conservative for many years. Unfortunately whatever the 416/905 wants is what we live with in this nearly bankrupt province. Trudeau’s majority? pretty much determined by the same ridings as well. There are a few other pockets of serial Liberal voters as well. Kingston and the Islands. They would vote for a traffic cone if there was a Liberal sticker on it. Ottawa as well has a tendency to vote Liberal. Common denominator? Government jobs. All three cities have huge amounts of Public sector jobs. The sad part of it is, the big cities, and the public sector unions will probably get her elected again, leaving rural Ontario disenfranchised as usual.
commented 2015-12-19 13:35:23 -0500
Hey Trudeau is 42.. He has done nothing in his life except spend Pierre’s money. Funny our troops just had a shootout in Iraq under peacenike Trudeau.
commented 2015-12-19 13:27:59 -0500
As time goes on and people are getting there fill of Trudeaus broken promises and his drama queen antics and narcissus selfies the liberal scandles taking place in Ont high Canadian debt climbing every day with Trudeaus placement in government! The Canadian public is going to realize PRIME MINISTER HARPER was one of the best PM Canada ever had or will have! and how one sided our news stations are meaning CBC CTV AND Global left wing liberal B—- S—— AND FUNDED BY CANADIAN TAX PAYERS MONEY I think Trudeau is due for a diaper change He has pulled the wool over the liberal sheep voters eyes poor bastards hope the libs do not screw all of Canadsa up like the libs have done to Ontairio GOD HELP US
commented 2015-12-19 13:27:45 -0500
As time goes on and people are getting there fill of Trudeaus broken promises and his drama queen antics and narcissus selfies the liberal scandles taking place in Ont high Canadian debt climbing every day with Trudeaus placement in government! The Canadian public is going to realize PRIME MINISTER HARPER was one of the best PM Canada ever had or will have! and how one sided our news stations are meaning CBC CTV AND Global left wing liberal B—- S—— AND FUNDED BY CANADIAN TAX PAYERS MONEY I think Trudeau is due for a diaper change He has pulled the wool over the liberal sheep voters eyes poor bastards hope the libs do not screw all of Canadsa up like the libs have done to Ontairio GOD HELP US
commented 2015-12-19 00:20:15 -0500
For the rest of Canada waking up to the reality of a smug, arrogant Trudeau and can’t understand, just call a friend in Ontario, we have had the ultra left, cookie cutter equivalent in Ontario for some time now
commented 2015-12-18 23:54:53 -0500
Ontario is sounding more like Quebec all the time. I guess, like in Quebec, the voters must like it this way. Wynne wouldn’t win if the sheeple didn’t vote her in.
commented 2015-12-18 20:19:34 -0500
Typical government subterfuge – in a scandal that leads to the big cheese you get some willing underlings to throw themselves to the lions – for future considerations – Like Chucky G and the sponsorship rackets – take one for the boss , take a vacation at club fed for 2yrs and spend your hush money when you get out.
commented 2015-12-18 16:37:18 -0500
Want to bet there’s going to be another “squirrel moment” soon from the Preem? Maybe to deflect the fact she was campaign chair during said election campaign? So many questions and so few answers. Thank you OPP for at least starting the process. 1000 days does not seem excessive.
commented 2015-12-18 15:59:31 -0500
The next picture I want to see of the Wynne/McGuinty criminal duo is of them both in matching orange jumpsuits and shackles…
commented 2015-12-18 15:49:35 -0500
They are smoke-screen distracting you (look over here) by going after some underlings with minor mischief charges.
Why do you suppose they won’t go after the higher ups, where the really big corruption is?
Well like Colin Gartner below says “6. Politicized provincial police force.”
It wouldn’t make much difference if it was the RCMP as is the case in BC.
Look at the reporting order…The police report to the Attorney General who decides what gets prosecuted and what doesn’t. It’s a nice little political closed shop. Who is going to police the lawmakers?
The whole thing gets stifled in the office of the ‘Attorney General’, Hon Madeline Meilleur who is an elected Liberal appointed Cabinet minister. This minister is responsible for Justice in Ontario…Look it up…
“Roles and Responsibilities of the Attorney General
You are here: Home> What We Do> Office of the Attorney General
The Attorney General has a unique role to play as a Minister.

One part of the Attorney General’s role is that of a Cabinet Minister. In this capacity the Minister is responsible for representing the interests and perspectives of the Ministry at Cabinet, while simultaneously representing the interests and perspectives of Cabinet and consequently the Government to the Ministry and the Ministry’s communities of interest.

The Attorney General is the chief law officer of the Executive Council. The responsibilities stemming from this role are unlike those of any other Cabinet member. The role has been referred to as “judicial-like” and as the “guardian of the public interest”.
The statutory responsibilities of the office are found in section 5 of the Ministry of the Attorney General Act. Section 5 states:
“The Attorney General,
is the Law Officer of the Executive Council;
shall see that the administration of public affairs is in accordance with the law;
shall superintend all matters connected with the administration of justice in Ontario;” more etc.

So, you see how easy it is to suppress matters that the politico’s want out of public view.
commented 2015-12-18 13:12:09 -0500
I marvel at what Ontarians put up with.
1. Political self-flagellation with the repeated reelection of what is an obviously corrupt and likely criminal political party.
2. Massive, unprecedented debt and deficits.
3. Erosion of the manufacturing base.
4. Massively increased energy prices (largely causing aforementioned erosion of the manufacturing base).
5. Ineffective, ill-considered forays into wind energy (largely causing aforementioned increase in energy prices).
6. Politicized provincial police force.
7. Patronizing liquor laws that treat the citizens like children.
And, those are just the examples I can think of off the top of my head. I’m sure others can add to the list. Yet Ontario citizens, with their ballot box choices, continue to choose more of the same. SMH.
commented 2015-12-18 13:02:47 -0500
nice to get a court date after the holidays…anyone else would have had their del maestro perp walk immediately..
commented 2015-12-18 13:01:36 -0500
miller hired her "partner’ for $10000.. at least she kept the money in the family…cbc censors chopped that one down in a hurry..
commented 2015-12-18 13:00:20 -0500
it took years to get to the top of watergate. lets hope we get there before the next round of elections… btw was liberal leader gerald butts the actual architect of this fraud, i wouldnt bet against it..
commented 2015-12-18 11:34:44 -0500
I would suggest that this was part of a broader effort and although I am speaking extemporaneously, I think it is glaring that there are no conspiracy charges under CC 465 sub 1 paragraph © (d) . In my mind McGuinty and Wynne remain as unindicted co-conspirators.
You may recall that Wynne sued Hudak and the PC Party for defamation regarding the allegations that she and McGuinty were involved in the gas plant fiasco and coverup. That suit was dropped like a hot potato. Would it not have been interesting to have these two “aides” forced to be deposed UNDER OATH during discovery? Unfortunately that suit was dropped.
Perhaps Exra and or Brian can can articualte in legal terms why no conspiracy charges have been laid?
commented 2015-12-18 11:06:50 -0500
Both Wynne and Mcguinty should have been thrown in jail a long time ago for their collusion with the international Marxists.
commented 2015-12-18 10:30:50 -0500
Ont is screwed even the opp is in bed with the libs, absolute corruption, wynne is one pathetic piece of work.
commented 2015-12-18 10:13:53 -0500
The OPP are the hand puppet for the Lieberals, people in Ontario know this and that is why nobody that actually made those decisions will get charged. If people actually think that the 2 charged did this on their own needs a brain scan, those orders came from the top but the Ontario Provincial Party for the Lieberals will not charge those responsible because they know they can get what ever they want from them, politics at it’s best.
commented 2015-12-18 10:13:12 -0500
The Criminal party of Canada the Liberal Mafia. As it is in every mafia organization the top boss is always protected from wrong doing. The OPP are as complicit as the Liberals them selves. Their endorsement of the Liberal party brings to question the integrity of the OPP. It may be time to disband the OPP as a corrupt police force considering they are in bed with Canada’s criminal party. (Liberals) Four years to investigate and only two being held accountable???? This cover appears to be tainted by Liberal corruption from the beginning. Where is the RCMP and a third party investigation. These people didn’t act on their own. They acted in concert with the entire staff knowing including Wynn.
commented 2015-12-18 09:04:09 -0500
What happened to vicarious liability?
Yup Liberals will doi anything to get elected!
Employees sure and their bosses are liable for what they do under their employment.
commented 2015-12-18 08:02:26 -0500
Unfortunately the citizens of Ontario gave these crooks a mandate to govern again.
commented 2015-12-18 02:14:38 -0500
It took the OPP four years to lay charges. If it were a Conservative they would have completed the investigation lickity split and the media would have been frothing at the mouth over the whole thing. My bet is nothing or very little will come of this as Ontario is no longer a functioning government, just a bunch of greedy little pricks and that includes McGuinty, Wynne and the OPP.
commented 2015-12-18 01:00:34 -0500
the OPP voted liberal, don’t expect much from them
commented 2015-12-18 00:45:53 -0500
Judy , GREAT POINT, funny how a liberal with more direct control is not charged , but Harper was with no power over Duffy.
commented 2015-12-17 23:25:59 -0500
I always thought as soon as something went out into cyber space, it lived on forever. All they need to do is check with NSA and get copies of the emails. Simple!!
commented 2015-12-17 22:53:27 -0500
As I recall Harper was held responsible for Duffy…what is the difference? Oh yeah…Conservative.
commented 2015-12-17 22:47:16 -0500
Provincial Premiers and the Prime Minister should be held responsible for their Political Party. Trudeau should be made to account for the missing 40m that his predecessors seem to have lost. They may be different people but It is still the same Party. Wynne is in the same position, she is in charge of the Ontario Liberals and should take the heat. it is still the same Party. Whatever happened to honor. In the old days a Captain went down with his ship, this should not be to hard for Wynne, she has done what the Captains used to do, many times I’m sure.
commented 2015-12-17 21:23:04 -0500
The queer and her predecessor will be free and clear – they have let the others take the fall.

Now to find a way to make them shut up!?

If this were a certain US politician who was once their boss I would start planning my funeral – however in this case a few millions should do the trick.