November 22, 2016

McKenna’s war on coal country: Will Trudeau Liberals suffer Hillary’s fate?

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Commentator
 

Federal Environment Minister Catherine McKenna has just announced a nationwide accelerated coal phaseout by 2030, following the Alberta NDP’s headlong march into energy poverty and economic devastation.

But this is more than just moral preening at the expense of energy consumers and Canadian families who now have to choose between food and electricity. It’s another typically Liberal attack on the West.

Nearly 90% of Canada’s coal reserves are in Western Canada. It’s not enough that the Liberals are going to carbon tax the oil we make and the food we grow. Now they are outlawing our cheap, reliable electricity.

The Liberals may as well be outlawing cowboy boots, gopher hunting and pick up trucks.

This ideological plan to end coal will turn towns all across the prairies into ghost towns, destroying property values, the tax base, and local economies supported by the six billion tonnes of usable low sulfur coal under our feet.

The Liberals want to fire nearly 50,000 coal and electricity workers all across the country with the stroke of a pen in Ottawa-without ever looking them in the eye-and the Liberals want the world to throw them a parade for it.

I don’t think the Liberals will be getting a parade. They'll be getting the same result Hillary Clinton got when she promised to fire coal workers.

Catherine McKenna and her liberals will get fired instead.

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commented 2016-11-26 12:16:16 -0500
Spreading false news

181 Every one who wilfully publishes a statement, tale or news that he knows is false and that causes or is likely to cause injury or mischief to a public interest is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.

R.S., c. C-34, s. 177.
Date modified: 2016-11-17
commented 2016-11-23 17:34:45 -0500
“It is arranged.” Yup. By Soros himself, no doubt, so he can buy up the resources at bargain basement prices and screw us on the price of energy later since he knows the green alternatives won’t work. I wonder how I can get in on the racket of using SJWs to build my portfolio?
commented 2016-11-23 17:27:36 -0500
John declares, “Either way coal is gone for power generation in a decade or two. It is arranged.” Arrogant expletive, starts with p ends in k.
commented 2016-11-23 16:33:07 -0500
Another “sure thing” pronouncement by John Siciliano… And I suppose Hilllary Clinton becoming president was also “arranged”??….
commented 2016-11-23 12:17:42 -0500
John Sisalano…
You should read Dale Warren’s post and what you can extrapolate from that you would know our nation is in great danger from being pushed into a place that It can never recover from and never deserved to be there in the first place..!!
commented 2016-11-23 11:50:28 -0500
As I said before the election of 2015 . . .
Elect the dopy Trudough mutt and we will ALL become Ontar-i-owe ! ! !
Canada today is 1.5% of Global Emissions . . . insignificant.
There is NO Green Energy that works 24/7 . . .
The Elephant in the room is China . . .
China is currently the number one producer in the world of wind and solar power, but don’t use it
themselves. While they manufacture 80% of the world’s solar panels, they install less than 5% and
build a new coal fired power station every week.
In one year they turn on more new coal powered electricity than Australia’s total output.

They are already the largest carbon dioxide emitter and their output will rise 70% by 2020.

And we think we’re saving the planet?

It will not make one iota of difference what we do in Australia, Canada, the United States or anywhere else in the world for that matter.

All the politicians are doing is increasing our cost of living and making our manufacturers uncompetitive in the world market, with their idiotic carbon tax.
When countries like China are growing and consuming at these extraordinary rates!

Time to wake up! We are allowing these leftist loons to rachet down our standard of living for the imaginary CO2 nonsense.
commented 2016-11-23 11:49:42 -0500
Either way coal is gone for power generation in a decade or two. It is arranged.
commented 2016-11-23 11:28:33 -0500
Al Peterson said..
“It is really too bad God didn’t have all these SJWs to confer with during creation so He could have been straightened out on His provision for our energy needs.”
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Life must be very hard for these SJW’s because they know more than God and they find it frustrating when nobody listens to them or takes them seriously.
commented 2016-11-23 10:30:51 -0500
ANDREW STEPHENSON You are a example of a CIDIOT im betting you never leave your local starbucks.
commented 2016-11-23 09:51:44 -0500
Andrew Stevenson said “Coal mining’s a horrible job anyway, and given our demographics and future labour shortages, not needed.”
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How could you have so many contradictions in a sentence that short… As well what the hell would you know about horrible jobs or any job outside of Internet email hacking..??
commented 2016-11-23 09:31:17 -0500
Answer to the headline is: NO. That’s why the Liberals need to change the present electoral system to stay in power for the forseeable future. If the FPTP stays, they know they will lose the next general election because people are fed up similar to the recent revolt in the USA resulting in Trump’s win..
commented 2016-11-23 09:27:12 -0500
ANDREW STEPHENSON commented 10 hours ago
I like to think we’re past wearing cowboy boots and shooting gophers. How many western Canadians have ever done either?

Personally, I think gophers are kinda cute."

Anyone who ventures outdoors will find that a cowboy hat is never out of style. That’s why we still wear them. We don’t wear tri-corner hats anymore, though. Gophers are undeniably cute- until they are eating your crop- i.e. your livelihood. I’ve plugged a few for my uncles on their farms and i suspect people still do today. I suspect you must be another SJW urbo-weenie who just loves to destroy all western and Western values and traditions. Please move to Europe if you don’t like the West.
commented 2016-11-23 09:21:01 -0500
NNAUMBUA FARRELL
“I am more and more convinced that the primary purpose of the Liberal Party of Canada is to weaponize ignorance and stupidity.”
Willful stupidity truly is a weapon. Hmm… Weapons grade stupidity.
commented 2016-11-23 07:34:08 -0500
“Coal is an archaic industry…” and this is relevant how? Ever heard of the iron age? Or the bronze age? So then I guess we should also shut down our metal mines since they are so masse? Natural gas is as ancient as coal. At what point will we decide how old is archaic? Automobiles have been around since the days of Henry Ford. Stop producing them too. Airplanes have been lumbering around since the turn of the previous century. A cease and desist order would also be appropriate. But that wouldn’t favour Ontario would it?

Once a shift is made to natural gas the price will sky rocket. Simple supply and demand. There is far more coal than gas in Canada. In fact Alberta has so much coal that it was hardly profitable to mine it during its heyday. Once coal is shut down then its price will rise and make steel manufacture costly. There are always unintended consequences for our meddling actions. Even Soros admitted that.

There is a website I stumbled on a few years back showing all the registered coal mines that ever operated in Alberta. There were something in the order of 2000 of them. And that was the registered ones. It didn’t include the ones operated when Farmer Jones stumbled across coal coming out a gopher hole and he dug it out by hand and sold to his neighbours.

It is really too bad God didn’t have all these SJWs to confer with during creation so He could have been straightened out on His provision for our energy needs.
commented 2016-11-23 01:29:34 -0500
“Coal is an archaic industry…” Honestly John, honestly.

I am more and more convinced that the primary purpose of the Liberal Party of Canada is to weaponize ignorance and stupidity.
commented 2016-11-23 01:18:19 -0500
Andrew Stevenson… You are an economic boob..
You are uninformed sadly mistaken and ultimately your feelings dictate what you write..
commented 2016-11-23 00:52:56 -0500
Good old Andrews, he is not either very deceitful or unintelligent…

Oh wait:

http://www.therebel.media/faith_goldy_october_27
commented 2016-11-23 00:46:36 -0500
Andrews said:

“Coal is declining in the US for that very reason. Cheap natural gas is comparable, joule for joule, with coal, and a whole hell of a lot cleaner. Trump can’t change that, even if it wasn’t a vacuous promise (which it probably was – he told the NYT that he believes climate change is real and is open to staying in the Paris treaty).

My power in Manitoba costs half what it does in Saskatchewan. We don’t burn coal. They do."

As Liza pointed out almost all (about 92%) of Manitoba’s generating capacity comes from hydroelectric stations. The rest comes from natural gas and coal. Yes, Manitoba burns coal for electricity (contrary to Andrews’ claim).

https://www.hydro.mb.ca/corporate/facilities/generating_stations.shtml

Manitoba also exports vast amounts of this mostly hydroelectric generated power to the US which helps keep prices low.

https://www.hydro.mb.ca/corporate/electricity_exports.shtml
commented 2016-11-23 00:33:58 -0500
“My power in Manitoba costs half what it does in Saskatchewan. We don’t burn coal. They do.”

Manitoba is almost entirely hydro electric, some gas, which may be why. Efficient burning does not make coal expensive. Walls carbon capture is expensive until you factor in the revenue it gathers for enhanced oil recovery. I don’t know why people pay so much there other than the fact that Sask power is a huge government owned and run, inefficient elephant of a company.
Coal is still the main source of electricity in the States and Europe. To stop it here is cutting off our noses to spite our face. If the left has their way we will have nothing to export. No product or resource. Canada will have no markets because this government won’t allow Canada to produce or export any product, and no company will want to do business from here.

If you have never experienced the damage a gopher can do you got nuthin to say about it, Andrew.
commented 2016-11-23 00:05:55 -0500
John Siciliano said:

“Coal is an archaic industry and should be slowly removed over time.”

Um, I’m not a metallurgist John, but I’ve heard wild rumours that coal may, just possibly, have a small role in the making of steel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l7JqonyoKA

But hey, I’m sure that steel is just some rarely used and easily replaceable material that few will ever miss.
commented 2016-11-22 23:42:45 -0500
Andrew you do realize building new gas plants costs money as well eh? And the market will change if it is cheaper, we do not need communist meddling.
commented 2016-11-22 23:41:51 -0500
I like to think we’re past wearing cowboy boots and shooting gophers. How many western Canadians have ever done either?

Personally, I think gophers are kinda cute.
commented 2016-11-22 23:41:47 -0500
Andrew labor shortages?? Where do you get that crap from? And the lefties you support hate natural gas as well. And yes it is cheap, China is not going that route because it costs more. And my power here in Alberta is cheaper than yours. So i guess one more useless comparison. And the NY times lies about Trump , do not take them seriously.
commented 2016-11-22 23:39:35 -0500
Progressive Conservative is an oxymoron, emphasis on moron. The red tory type party of Joe Clarke died with a whimper long ago and rightfully so. Why would anyone vote for a fake liberal party which always going be suspect of having a “hidden agenda” when they can have their choice of two other actual liberal/progressive political parties. A red tory party alienates both right and left, it tries to be two things at once but is actually neither. This country needs a party that stands for CONSERVATIVE principles.
commented 2016-11-22 23:35:56 -0500
" Its cheap, thanks to efficient burning it is also clean. How the hell do you expect to compete in the world without coal? Especially with Trump advocating for the industry there. …And there IS no solution which is going to’satisfy all the provinces’. There is no band aide to take care of all the lost jobs, and lost manufacturing due to the lack of ‘cheap’ energy. "

Clean coal isn’t cheap, cheap coal isn’t clean. The two are mutually exclusive. Filthy coal is (literally) dirt cheap, but you’ll meet a lot of citizen pushback if you try to allow open stack coal. The scrubbers to reduce emissions to acceptable levels … make it more expensive than just burning a cleaner fuel in the first place.

Coal is declining in the US for that very reason. Cheap natural gas is comparable, joule for joule, with coal, and a whole hell of a lot cleaner. Trump can’t change that, even if it wasn’t a vacuous promise (which it probably was – he told the NYT that he believes climate change is real and is open to staying in the Paris treaty).

My power in Manitoba costs half what it does in Saskatchewan. We don’t burn coal. They do.
commented 2016-11-22 23:33:25 -0500
Unless Canadians are accessing news sources such as The Rebel, they’ll never know the truth behind the stories. And I doubt they are.
Toronto alone will keep him in power, because they don’t know anything about the rest of Canada, and don’t care.
commented 2016-11-22 23:30:10 -0500
Natural gas is cheaper anyway. Same issue in the States – they’ll keep them running until the end of service life then close or convert. The 2030 target isn’t even really that big a difference over legislation that already existed or the economics of the situation (most plants reach end of life between 2025 and 2040, so you’re talking a few extra years at a couple of plants) – emission limitations basically priced coal out anyway, and that came out of the Conservatives.

Coal mining’s a horrible job anyway, and given our demographics and future labour shortages, not needed.
commented 2016-11-22 23:25:01 -0500
I don’t suppose Soros is pushing this agenda so he can buy up Canada’s coal reserves at bargain basement prices? You can bet your lunch money Trudeau and Butts are on the take for their part in the debacle. The Provinces need to tell the Tater Tot to Butt Out. Resources are a provincial responsibility. Perhaps Brad Wall will stand up to the Child King.
commented 2016-11-22 23:10:17 -0500
Anything the politicians don’t want is certainly in the favor of the people… Example recall legislation, separation, pushback against carbon tax, Bill C6, Citizens having Control over our immigration process ect ect ect.. I’m sure even the blind can see what I’m getting at..!!