June 02, 2015

Media Party double standard: Only call conservative men fat

Rebel Staff
 

Is calling NDP Health Minister Sarah Hoffman misogynistic?

According to an expert quoted in the National Post, the answer is yes.

The Media Party ganged up on an Alberta PC volunteer who echoed my argument that maybe NDP Health Minister, Sarah Hoffman, isn’t the best person to give health advice after she banned menthol cigarettes in the province.

Oh really? I can think of a few examples where the media criticized men for their weight. Is it a coincidence that most of these men are conservative?

 

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commented 2015-06-04 21:13:57 -0400
Where is that picture of Rob Ford eating chicken wings?
commented 2015-06-04 20:53:27 -0400
How about a politician with some balls? Maybe some brave Wild Roser can speak up for the beleagered Tory volunteer, and maybe hasten that sad sack party’s demise? It should be pointed out, publicly, by an Albertan opposition politician (and why not someone from the Wild Rose?) the obvious double standard made here by the media party? Because, let’s face it, just because it’s happening here on theRebel does not mean that it’s become a topic of conversation anywhere else. But if an Albertan pol, even a federal one made a similar comparison between how this was handled compared to Ford or Duffy in a more of a public forum, maybe less people will automatically jump to the ABC conclusion the media party is always, always pushing. Even someone like Rob himself, or maybe a lame duck like MacKay could bring it up in front of some cameras in Toronto or Ottawa. Call the media party out, let’s see if someone like Neil MacDonald would take up the challenge! I say that because of the obvious contradiction this is an argument the right wing could win, and on a very public stage. Which is, IMHO, a very good place to be in an election year.
commented 2015-06-04 20:44:07 -0400
Cory, I feel your pain. And, Ezra’s skating close to the edge of offensive here, but what he’s really doing is pointing out the obvious double standard. His problem on this thread isn’t so much that the woman in question is overweight, it’s the media party’s double standard. He’s right, the media had a field day with Rob Ford, and continues to mock Duffy for his weight. But the second someone from the right makes fun of a left wing politician for being overweight, regardless of the hypocrisy of this person being in a position of power regarding health issues, and suddenly nobody can make the obvious comment. Only fat conservative men are allowed to be mocked for being fat. If the politician is of the left wing, then any critic has to overlook anything even remotely out of the norm, no matter how stupid it is. That’s his point, and he makes it well. If the media can call Ford and Duffy fat, hundreds of times, forever and ever, then why can’t one Tory volunteer suggest that an NDP cabinet minister is? Blatant double standard.
commented 2015-06-04 13:53:15 -0400
well look what little peter mackay about belinda s
commented 2015-06-04 10:01:40 -0400
@ Adam C re your comment: …not to mention feminazis, left wingers, Trudeau, NDP, what are you talking about it being the LAST acceptable form of discrimination? Conservatives acceptably discriminate against almost everyone!…I have to admit this, as a feminist Conservative. (Of course having acceptable agents against which to discriminate also applies to liberals, NDPers, libertarians,Muslims and atheists…) It is the nature of sinful man…“BUT GOD is NO respecter of persons”…(in modern English: God does not discriminate…“He causes the rain to fall on the just and on the unjust”). That is part of the ‘great gulf fixed’ between God and the Carnal man: between perfect Love and corrupt humanity.
commented 2015-06-04 09:46:14 -0400
@ Adam Christie “It’s like the last acceptable form of discrimination to conservatives – mocking fat people.”…like Rush Limbaugh and Mayor Robert Ford?…
commented 2015-06-04 09:45:24 -0400
Joan, you may be on to something there… So far the Alberta NDP has been having some individual issues with professionalism and it wouldn’t surprise me if there was some group backstabbery going on out of sight as well.
commented 2015-06-03 21:22:07 -0400
It’s unfortunate that the volunteer with nothing to lose, caved. The media will chalk that up in the Win column.
commented 2015-06-03 19:46:17 -0400
I wonder what Sarah’s reaction is. A lot of comments here from a lot of ‘armchair quarterbacks’.
commented 2015-06-03 16:55:39 -0400
It occurs to me had the ban been on milk chocolate and the minister a smoker, she would then be fair game and would be vilified with the willing consent of MSM. This story is nothing but double standards.
commented 2015-06-03 02:00:15 -0400
Cory – hopefully as a politician, Hoffman has a thick skin.

Like I said before, I think whoever gave Hoffman the health portfolio (Notley? Notley’s union enforcers?) appears to have it in for Hoffman. Given her girth, the fat jokes were inevitable. Her weight would never have come up if she were Minister of Transport, for example.
commented 2015-06-03 01:47:40 -0400
Mike – menthol just a taste? HA! Good one!!
commented 2015-06-03 00:24:19 -0400
I’m assuming menthol is just a taste of what’s to come. Seems like kind of a silly thing to ban,when pot laws are weakening. Can’t these so called politicians find important government things to govern???? Ridiculous ! Vape and menthol nanny’s to begin with….we can see where this is going :-(
commented 2015-06-03 00:19:15 -0400
Adam C. , yeah just like the Globe….used to be.
commented 2015-06-02 23:56:07 -0400
It is not the weight of any MPP that bothers me about this NDP government, it is that a large percentage of them are just kids!

I remember talking to people why they would not vote for the Wildrose and why they were going to vote for the NDP. Most of they claimed it was because the Wildrose did not have any experience in running a government. So they voted for the NDP, who not only had less experience running a government but had a bunch of very young people not much out of their teens as candidates. Not much life experience either. At least the Wildrose candidates are older and are more experienced, but some did have experience in government.

This inexperience bunch of idealistic children (and the experienced anti-oilsands / anti-pipeline / pro-union staff/MPPs) in this NDP government will crash Alberta.

The weight of an MP will make absolutely no difference at all, even if she is in charge of the health ministry.

Hang on, people, Alberta’s in for a bumpy ride!
commented 2015-06-02 23:45:49 -0400
Rick Pleznik said, " However I have learned over the years (many) that sometimes additional poundage can actually work to an advantage! In my rare bouts with flu viruses . . . "

Maybe that explains why I seldom get sick. :)
commented 2015-06-02 22:46:47 -0400
A morbidly obese NDP Health minister in Alberta banning life choices for others, well that makes sense. We don’t need or want more nanny state. Alberta will be the laughing stock of Canada real soon. Watch Sarah Hoffman get even fatter after she has fed at the entitlement trough that is the Alberta Health bureaucracy, one of the most corrupt and useless in the country. She has to know she is morbidly obese, not just a little over weight, and she has to know considering her position, that people might have something to say about it! Ridiculous complaints, and cries of misogyny. Also ridiculous for the government to ban Menthol smokes. I don’t smoke, but am not comfortable with Provincial governments deciding this stuff willy nilly. It is not supposed to be what government is for. We need less not more gov.
commented 2015-06-02 21:37:53 -0400
It is very visible that she is overweight, unless you’re blind, so just because you don’t say it out loud does not mean that you are not thinking it. I think Ezra mentioned her weight because she is the health minister after all plus she’s preaching to adults that menthol cigs are bad for their health but overeating & getting obese is OK……not a problem. So, how can Albertans take her seriously.
commented 2015-06-02 21:17:12 -0400
The comments about Sarah’s weight and obesity aside, she has no real high ground to make a selective ban like that. Just because it’s a hot-button issue for her and many others, it takes away from our freedom of choice. And although I don’t live in Alberta, I know the limitation of choice all too well, as does anyone who happens to live in Ontario. We aren’t called the “nanny-state” for our Mrs. Doubtfires.
As far as Sarah Hoffmans weight goes, I can understand people jumping to the defense on that issue. Her weight may not be her fault, as I personally know some people born obese. But if you look at this first-blush, what conclusion do you dare draw without the dissection? And be honest, none of us are innocent of making fun of the “fat” people. I’m not excusing it, but let’s honest with ourselves, lest we become hypocrites at large, pardon the pun.

If I could, I would send Sarah Hoffman a message: Banning things doesn’t make the problem go away. It only forces people to look for alternate ways of getting what they want. (i.e Tobacco, Guns, Drugs, Banned pets… ) The list goes on and on. And usually those sources are through black market operations. Is there a simple solution? No. But banning is no viable option. So let’s get the think tank out and come up with solutions, not more problems.
commented 2015-06-02 21:03:16 -0400
Cory. Liked your story. I myself am not exactly the vision of “Apollo”. However I have learned over the years (many) that sometimes additional poundage can actually work to an advantage! In my rare bouts with flu viruses, and my recent challenge of dental surgery, that extra “fat” has burned off to provide the energy as needed to help my body recover from the situation. It has kept my bone density optimal for what is to come and provided better and faster healing to progress, and, most importantly, kept me functional in the interim. Extra weight is not necessarily unhealthy. What the Socialist Media did to Rob Ford was unconscionable. The Socialist Media revel in personal attacks, unless of course it is their preferred candidate! Then they will defend by whatever smear they can conceive!
commented 2015-06-02 20:26:49 -0400
It would make perfect sense to ban all tobacco products for health reasons, if not for the illegal underground trade and criminal element that would surely flourish in the wake of such a ban. However, to single out menthol cigarettes, which have been around almost as long as cigarettes themselves, is absolutely moronic. It’s equivalent to banning a particular brand, such as banning Rothmans and giving Marlboros a free pass. By the way, obviously MSM and politically correct politicians are going to jump all over any reference to Sarah Hoffman’s weight. That’s because they know the kind of spin MSM will put on those remarks. And all politicians of all stripes want to distance themselves from any perceived endorsement of those remarks as fast as they possibly can. That, of course, is hypocritical. It absolutely makes perfect sense to tie a Minister’s personal lifestyle choices, that create health problems of her own, to her credibility as a Health Minister. What I find really annoying and cowardly however, is how quickly the conservative party worker backed down and apologized. If he had any backbone, he would have stood his ground and challenged his accusers to demonstrate how his remarks were misogynistic or inaccurate. That’s what I would have done. By the way, you wouldn’t want me for Health Minister either. I’m far more obese than Sarah Hoffman, so I don’t dis her for her weight, just holding that particular Portfolio at that weight. I wouldn’t go to motivational speaker, Tony Robins, for marital advice, since he’s had several. I have nothing against Tony Robbins, but my parents were married 64 years, and all my married siblings (6) are still on their first marriage, and so far so is the next generation, knock on wood. So I believe instinctively, having had the parents I had, I know more about successful marriages than Tony Robins. It’s the same thing with health. If you don’t know how to make healthy choices for yourself, you have no credibility when try to compel others to do so.
commented 2015-06-02 20:17:56 -0400
A fat slob is a fat slob. Why should we look around for some kind of euphemism to imply otherwise? If she doesn’t like the impression she gives, then it’s her prerogative to change or accept the fact. The majority of us have that same opportunity as it’s one that can be changed in the majority of cases if so desired.
In her portfolio, she should know better and set a positive example.
commented 2015-06-02 19:57:18 -0400
Cory, I don’t think she became fat through child abuse. She became fat through utensil abuse.
commented 2015-06-02 18:49:06 -0400
Most of you guys are pretty immature here. Ezra’s remarks about weight are also pretty childish.

When I was young, starting around 6 or so, I was taken in by my Grandparents. My Mom was getting beaten by her boyfriend and she didn’t want me exposed to it. Within a few years of living with my Grandparents, my Grandfather was diagnosed with lung cancer after a life time of smoking. His dying wish was to spoil the shit out of me. I was taken to McDonald’s and Dairy Queen almost daily. I was morbidly obese by the age of 12 at a whopping 180 lbs. As an adult, I live a very healthy lifestyle with exercise, high protein, low carbs and mostly whole foods and very little fast food. I am fat but very healthy. I just can’t lose weight because of becoming obese so young. The science regarding losing weight as a former obese child is quite discouraging. Some science says it’s effectively incurable and requires surgery because you can only shrink these fat cells and not lose them.

I look at most fat people the same way as you guys do because most of them eat like slobs and don’t ever exercise. Not everyone has a unique case like mine but have some damn respect and maybe consider the fact they gained the weight through pure child abuse.
commented 2015-06-02 18:39:31 -0400
Say it like it is, plain and simple. If the truth can’t be handled, then the recipients need to grow up. Doublespeak is meaningless. (Weren’t we taught “say what you mean, and mean what you say”?)
commented 2015-06-02 18:21:08 -0400
Sarah Hoffman is a big fat blob and should not be in a position of health.

Hoffman represents unhealthy.

MSM is total communist crap thats act as the communication from the liberal/ndp pigs to the voters – it’s been this way for decades. So refreshing to have Ezra and the Rebel Media pointing out how full of sh*T the MSM really is.

And the word misogyny gets used far too often (more shaming crap) by hateful pigs like wynne and the pig running Alberta now. These angry pigs should shut their traps for a change when it comes to misogyny.
commented 2015-06-02 18:04:03 -0400
Well, when it comes to men, the term is misandry.

The MSM has always been and will always be hypocrites.
commented 2015-06-02 17:58:48 -0400
“Lookism” I would grant you….but “misogyny” ….no…..morbid obesity is not a gender….unless of course the Ontario Department of Education decides to expand the list…..:)

Besides …when did they ever cut Rob Ford…the “fat cancer” (lypocarcenoma) survivor any slack….and disparaging him has never been called misogyny.
commented 2015-06-02 17:54:03 -0400
Good job, Ezra. The left is nothing but hypocrisy. Like Mulclair questioning Duffy’s spending habits.