May 27, 2016

Minister of Social Justice? Climate change debate DEBASED by non-climate scientists

Holly NicholasRebel Commentator
 

There are generally three groups in the scientific community that research climate change and impacts on the environment.

They are the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a group of government bodies that essentially believe that anthropogenic, or human induced climate change is what’s behind rising temperatures and there’s what we call the skeptics, groups of scientists that generally question human induced global warming.

It’s important to note that these two groups agree on a lot of the main points regarding climate change, including that it’s incredibly difficult to predict catastrophic consequences from increasing temperatures.

Then there’s a group of scientists outside both of these groups that don’t have any expertise in climate change, but publish papers that suggest that climate change is responsible for acne, that it starts wars and that it affects women more than men.

They are the ones propelling this end of the world, doomsday, fear based narrative about climate change. And Catherine McKenna, our Minister of Environment and Climate Change, is one of them. Recent tweets made by the minister promoting the idea that climate change is having more of an effect on women than men, demonstrate this.

I reviewed published papers on gender and climate change and there were very few authored or co-authored by actual climate scientists. Many came from sociology, agriculture and anthropology backgrounds – all important fields, but not climate scientists.

The more these people speak on this issue, the more climate change becomes a basis for instilling fear and unfortunately, they dominate the conversation. But the truth is that the debate on the impact and causes of global warming is ongoing and it’s not settled.

People like Catherine McKenna detract from the merits of the real experts that we should be listening to.

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commented 2016-05-30 11:25:41 -0400
Hi Mr. Kooks,
It wasn’t me that made all these ridiculous predictions. It was your compatriots. So now the sea ice will be gone in 100 years? How convenient.
I did not claim the the University of East Anglia falsified data, I just said they discussed delaying release of data. In itself it is not a “smoking gun”, but it does colour their scientific impartiality.
The sea levels are rising but not at the pace predicted by the “hockey stick” gang. The NIPCC has stated the sea level rises are within the norm
Since you are too busy to make a couple of clicks, I perceive you are not the well informed scientist you pretend to be just another troll.
If you do not repond to my posts that is fine. At least you will not be able to state I have retreated in “humility”.
commented 2016-05-30 09:48:03 -0400
BTW, I am still waiting for Holly Nicholas to come out from inside her cave to confront me in this debate. But I won’t hold my breath as I have yet to see a “Rebel Contributor” in the open range. How nice for them to have a platform to spew their rhetoric and yet not be accountable on the contents. All in an effort to work up the Neanderthals into thinking the opposite of what most intellectual’s think.
commented 2016-05-30 09:43:56 -0400
“Robert Mcclelland commented 1 hour ago
Al Gore predicted that as early as 2014 the artic would be ice free. The Goracle has impecable man made global warming credentials, so in 2015 I decided to take a little kayak trip through the North West Passage to enjoy a little seal blubber. Golly gee, the place was iced ower!”

Do you wake up screaming in the middle of the night when you think of such ideas Boob? I mean, do you really think a simpleton like you can just take a kayak ride and do a quick and dirty visual survey and conclude all is good. Only an inbreed Neanderthal would think that.

Besides, Al Gore was no scientist and often, those without a scientific background are provided and relay on information from others. Computer modelling at the time for such an event was in it’s infancy. Much has changed since.

Most scholars now agree that the Arctic ice will be gone within 100 years. And with recent events the consensus on this only grows. In the last 15 years, 14 were the hottest in recorded history. 2014 was the hottest year in history until 2015 was proclaimed the hottest year in history. One only has to do some reading from creditable sites to understand that Arctic ice loss is very real. Here’s a good link to start with: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201513

Now, I am not going to respond to your constant gibberish any more. If you got some creditable information to share then do so with a link and a quick descriptor as I have been doing. Otherwise, you can talk to the hand Boob.
commented 2016-05-30 09:31:20 -0400
“Robert Mcclelland commented 1 hour ago
Say….hasn’t the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit provided data to the IPCC for their man made climate change reports? Weren’t they involved in the “Climategate” scandal where emails were released indicating discussions taking place regarding delaying the release of data. "

That’s just a fabrication of a generated myth Boob. Here’s a link that scatters your bullshit all over the friends of crooked science: http://www.factcheck.org/2009/12/climategate/
“Some critics claim that the e-mails invalidate the conclusions of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. But the IPCC’s 2007 report, its most recent synthesis of scientific findings from around the globe, incorporates data from three working groups, each of which made use of data from a huge number of sources — of which CRU was only one. The synthesis report notes key disagreements and uncertainties but makes the “robust” conclusion that “warming of the climate system is unequivocal.”

Claims that the e-mails are evidence of fraud or deceit, however, misrepresent what they actually say. A prime example is a 1999 e-mail from Jones, who wrote: “I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (i.e., from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline.” Skeptics claim the words “trick” and “decline” show Jones is using sneaky manipulations to mask a decline in global temperatures. But that’s not the case. Actual temperatures, as measured by scientific instruments such as thermometers, were rising at the time of the writing of this decade-old e-mail, and (as we’ve noted) have continued to rise since then. Jones was referring to the decline in temperatures implied by measurements of the width and density of tree rings. In recent decades, these measures indicate a dip, while more accurate instrument-measured temperatures continue to rise."

So back to the cave Boob.
commented 2016-05-30 09:26:39 -0400
“Robert Mcclelland commented 2 hours ago
Mr. Kooks, actually my double wide trailer is on the beach in Florida where I am still waiting to be flooded out by the rising seas……still waiting…….still waiting…..”

There as been a great deal of money already invested in Miami to combat the rising sea levels. Last I heard they are building up the coast line 4 inches and employing huge water diversion pumps. Much of the money comes from the UNs adaptive management approach to global warming.

But since I have come to understand your inability to read for yourself, here is a nice visual video for you to ease your comprehension. There are many more videos as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i5800yNYLE

And here are some of the scholarly reports specific to the Florida and the rising sea levels should you choose to attempt some reading:
https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=miami+flooding+in+adaptive+management&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiY9rW58YHNAhUN-mMKHQiCACkQgQMIHDAA
commented 2016-05-30 09:22:00 -0400
“Robert Mcclelland commented 4 hours ago
Hi Mr. Kooks,
I see your meds wore off. I think you could use a fresh dose.
Nice scientific reply by the way.
When the orderlies next give you your computer privleges search NIPCC.
Then you can click on the site.
You may then download the entire report for free.”

I can get past your name calling but seriously, it is you that needs to stay on the meds judging by the number of responses here OMG. And as usual no links but rather a suggestion of one. Unlike you, I’m a busy man so why not just go to that site of yours and post the link here. So simple even a caveman Neanderthal like yourself can do it.
commented 2016-05-30 08:28:58 -0400
Al Gore predicted that as early as 2014 the artic would be ice free. The Goracle has impecable man made global warming credentials, so in 2015 I decided to take a little kayak trip through the North West Passage to enjoy a little seal blubber. Golly gee, the place was iced ower!
commented 2016-05-30 08:09:45 -0400
Say….hasn’t the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit provided data to the IPCC for their man made climate change reports? Weren’t they involved in the “Climategate” scandal where emails were released indicating discussions taking place regarding delaying the release of data.
commented 2016-05-30 07:53:13 -0400
Back in 2000 Dr. David Viner, of the University of East Anglia, predicted that “winter snowfall would become a rare and exciting event” and that the children of Britain would soon"not know what snow was". I was so worried about my double wide in Florida being flooded out I went for a nice warm holiday in the UK during January 2010. Damn, the entire place was covered in snow!
commented 2016-05-30 07:13:53 -0400
You know, I believed those “hockey stick” guys back in the 90’s when they predicted that coastal Florida would be flooded by 2020, so I didn’t build a proper cave. Now I’m stuck in this red-neck double wide trailer!
commented 2016-05-30 06:52:39 -0400
Mr. Kooks, actually my double wide trailer is on the beach in Florida where I am still waiting to be flooded out by the rising seas……still waiting…….still waiting…..
commented 2016-05-30 05:14:32 -0400
Kooks, bye the bye, we Neandrethals have a short attention span, so we tend to move on to new pastures after a few days. So just because you have the last post doesn’t mean you have prevailed. You have already lost. You just havn’t realized it yet. A classic case of lack of insight.
See ya
commented 2016-05-30 05:07:06 -0400
Hi Mr. Kooks,
I see your meds wore off. I think you could use a fresh dose.
Nice scientific reply by the way.
When the orderlies next give you your computer privleges search NIPCC.
Then you can click on the site.
You may then download the entire report for free.
I am suprised a world class expert in climatology cannot work this out for himself. I am suprised such a leading light for humanity didn’t even know about it.
Oh by the way Kooksy ol boy, I think there is land available down in south america for you and the rest of your clult. I think Jonestown is still vacant.
commented 2016-05-30 00:14:51 -0400
“climatefallacy commented 1 day ago
correction…
I mean disingenuous, rather than ingenuous.
Though interesting both words can mean naive;
Disingenuous is intentional dishonesty, lack of integrity or inauthenticity.
Ingenuous means naive to the world, or lacking worldliness, which isn’t a bad descriptor for not just McKenna, but Turdo-Turdumb, and that drunk guy mass importing the jihad worshippers.
@climatefallacy"

And finally, here is the oxymoron on them all – the self-professed leader of the Neanderthals. You know before you put your powerful words through a thesaurus, to make people think you are more intelligent than you truly are, you should first look to sentence structure, content and do a spell check. Then again, you think man-made global warming is a myth so it all fits quite nicely doesn’t it.

I thought that last time we spoke where I inundated you with dozens of links to creditable scientific sites, proving that humans induced global warming, that you were going to respond in kind. In other words, you were going to find links in dispute of those I posted. In fact, I prompted you several times for this ground breaking information of yours but I was always met with silence.

So instead of trying to impress the masses here with your linguistic inabilities, let’s see some of that so called evidence you have on the contrary.
commented 2016-05-30 00:02:57 -0400
“David White commented 12 hours ago
ROBERT MCCLELLAND: Thanks for your tirade Robert. Kokes is a klueless kunt.”

I see you’re still brooding from our last exchange. How embarrassing that must have been for you to loose face in front of your mindless Neanderthal cohorts. I bet you felt better in the morning after you cried yourself to sleep that night.

Then weeks later, you gather your courage and crawl out from under your double wide trailer to draft the above response on your Pentium II computer with the 14" b&w screen. Wow, that touch of wit must have took you hours to muster up not to mention the damage that must of did to your thought process. But I do see the symbolism here. The three KKKs and you calling yourself David “White” when you likely aspire to be a David Duke. Yep, it’s all too clear to me now.
commented 2016-05-29 23:43:31 -0400
“Rick Plesnik commented 10 hours ago
KEITH BARNES said: “Global warming, if any, is in part due to unusual sun spot activity that has been happening these last few years and also from the position of the earth in relation to it’s axis or the wobble that occurs while the earth rotates. This is why we have magnetic variation.”
Actually Mars is warming somewhat also due to said sun spots. Bring that up with a lefty and they will have a meltdown trying to shut you down while claiming mankind is causing that too!”

“Rick Plesnik commented 10 hours ago
PETER KARELSE said: “Kokes, I reserve Mr. for those for whom I some level of respect. Why do you left wing types always resort to name calling and a general attempt to denigrate the audience you are talking to?”
Simple answer. That is a lefty trait and modus operandi. Far better to launch personal attacks than actually address the subject! "

Just wondering Rick, do you pluck or shave that uni-brow in the middle to look like your sub-human counterparts? Mars and sunspots, is that all you got? I know you have likely been told this before, but just to confirm, you are indeed not the sharpest “tool” in the Neanderthal tool box.

Your lack of genius is as obvious as the uni-brow on your face. And what have you yourself addressed in the above posts Rick. I don’t see any real information on the topic at hand, but I do see you like working the term “lefty” at every opportunity. Wow, that hurts. And I bet you sit back afterwards so proudly and gloat. Too funny! Like they say, those that think themselves competent often are not. Please can some of you other Neanderthals couch him so he doesn’t embarrass himself further.
commented 2016-05-29 23:26:11 -0400
“Robert Mcclelland commented 1 day ago
Looking forward to it Mr. Kokes.
Robert Mcclelland commented 1 day ago
Oh, Mr. Kokes,
Robert Mcclelland commented 1 day ago
Hi again Mr. Kokes.
Robert Mcclelland commented 1 day ago
You know Mr. Kokes
Robert Mcclelland commented 1 day ago
Hi Mr. Kokes.
Robert Mcclelland commented 15 hours ago
Hey Mr. Kokes”

You must be real lonely. Either that you got some big time man crush going on with me. Now you best sit for this but I don’t swing that way. So take your Neanderthal mangina and entice a monkey with it. The monkey is only step down the evolutionary scale from where you are at on the intellectual level so you should be able to convince her of your imaginative ideas.

Now before you go crying back into your cave with your monkey, show me one scientific research paper done by the NIPCC in which any other creditable scientist reported. Just ONE!
commented 2016-05-29 13:32:52 -0400
Hi David
Mr. Kooks had it coming
commented 2016-05-29 13:17:51 -0400
KEITH BARNES said: “Global warming, if any, is in part due to unusual sun spot activity that has been happening these last few years and also from the position of the earth in relation to it’s axis or the wobble that occurs while the earth rotates. This is why we have magnetic variation.”

Actually Mars is warming somewhat also due to said sun spots. Bring that up with a lefty and they will have a meltdown trying to shut you down while claiming mankind is causing that too!
commented 2016-05-29 13:14:15 -0400
PETER KARELSE said: “Kokes, I reserve Mr. for those for whom I some level of respect. Why do you left wing types always resort to name calling and a general attempt to denigrate the audience you are talking to?”

Simple answer. That is a lefty trait and modus operandi. Far better to launch personal attacks than actually address the subject!
commented 2016-05-29 11:15:05 -0400
ROBERT MCCLELLAND: Thanks for your tirade Robert. Kokes is a klueless kunt. As for McKenna, a simple stunned kunt.

DJBT,STPC,WTS andNN
commented 2016-05-29 08:06:08 -0400
Hey Mr. Kokes, still waiting. NIPCC got your tonge? Maybe Micheal Mann should try taking them to court instead of Dr. Ball and Mark Stein.
commented 2016-05-28 22:00:24 -0400
correction…
I mean disingenuous, rather than ingenuous.

Though interesting both words can mean naive;
Disingenuous is intentional dishonesty, lack of integrity or inauthenticity.
Ingenuous means naive to the world, or lacking worldliness, which isn’t a bad descriptor for not just McKenna, but Turdo-Turdumb, and that drunk guy mass importing the jihad worshippers.

@climatefallacy
commented 2016-05-28 21:44:13 -0400
McKenna is proof that reverse-discrimination hiring and glad-hand appointments don’t work.

This third-wave feminism where all women are victims doesn’t pass the giggle test for us rationalists.

The perpetual hunt for victimhood and endless spurning of self-responsibility, is not just ingenuous, but degenerate.

Can’t wait for Trump to shut down this Global Warming racket once and for all.
Wiser heads will prevail people! :-)

@climatefallacy
commented 2016-05-28 19:45:15 -0400
Mckenna can’t seriously believe what she is shovelling. These hucksters don’t do they? Too bad we have to pay for to keep her in this ridiculous job. Climate change is a make work project for bureaucrats and academics.
Yes climate changes. It is even going to cool again someday. Carbon dioxide’s role in it all is being proven to be inconsequential. Even if it were the cause of the ‘warming trend’ man’s contribution to that is so minuscule as to be…….. there is that word again, inconsequential. Why are these lunatics getting away with this charade?That is what we need to talk about.
commented 2016-05-28 16:55:54 -0400
Hi Mr. Kokes. I had a nice rest and I’ve lit the fire in my cave. Earlier in your teachings you referred to research done by the IPCC. With respect to the IPCC the NIPCC states that “It is agenda-driven, a political rather than a scientific body and some say it is corrupt.” I dunno, but it sure looks to me like the NIPCC has done a lot of credible research with real supportive data.
commented 2016-05-28 14:03:36 -0400
You know Mr. Kokes, I am reading that "Governments in the world rely on gobal climate models (GCMs) It seems the NIPCC takes the position that GCMs systematically over estimate the sensitivity of climate to CO2. You know thats about all a simple neandrethal like me can take in in one day. Say hi to the other guys on the ward and hope you have a nice weekend.
commented 2016-05-28 13:55:30 -0400
Hi again Mr. Kokes. I am looking at the key findings of the NIPCC it states “articles and surveys most commonly cited as showing support for a scientific consensus in favour of man-made global warming are without exception methodologically flawed and often deliberately misleading”. That doesn’t sound very good at all does it?
commented 2016-05-28 13:44:08 -0400
Gee Mr. Kokes look at the Introduction of the NIPCC report, it says "Probably the most repeated claim in the debate over global warming is that “97% of scientists agree that climate change is man made and dangerous”". Gosh, didn’t you make that very claim Mr. Kokes? The NIPCC goes on to state "This claim is not only false but it’s presence in the debate is an insult to science. Golly, I thought only Neandrethals were an insult to science.
commented 2016-05-28 13:18:12 -0400
Oh, Mr. Kokes, just to help you with your devastatingly brilliant reply, the last time we chatted I referred you to the study by the NIPCC of last November, for some strange reason you have neglected to refer to it in your list of authorities. It pretty much refutes everything you’ve posted.
Cheers