October 17, 2015

Obamacare: MORE uninsured Americans now than before -- but better health care was never the goal

Ezra LevantRebel Commander

In 2009, Obama and the Democrats said they needed to nationalize U.S. health care because 30 million Americans were uninsured.

He brought 1/7th of the economy under government control, insurance premiums went way up, and patient choice was reduced.

Now it's 2015, and a new study shows there are now MORE uninsured Americans than there were before!

But as far as Obama and the Democrats are concerned, this isn't a failure, it's a win!

Watch to see why.



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commented 2015-10-18 16:15:53 -0400
And Justin wants to attack the 1%.
Did anyone tell him that our Doctors are part of that 1% that he wants to tax and take away their wealth?
Only an absolute MORON would fall for this narcissist Justin Trudeau.
Respectable Liberals, like Irwin Cotler, retired from Parliament, rather than be part of his charade.
He told me so, last summer in a one on one conversation.
Google Irwin Cotler. to see what a real man is all about.
commented 2015-10-18 15:49:11 -0400
DAVID SMYTH raises an interesting point, not so much what he says as what it implies.
The success of the left in the US and to some degree in Canada is due in large part to the ability to organize and act. This is because the left – generally – uses talking points from the same play book – they are very homogeneous in their beliefs and dogma.
As David Smyth’s post shows such a shocking and conflicting diversity of beliefs, so goes the conservative demographic and therefore it’s pretty much impossible to get consensus or organize and act as a group to meet and then defeat the lefty, progressive agenda.
I will never accede to the idea of gun control, based on what the facts of history clearly teaches us about it. I would find it difficult to even have a conversation with someone about our mutual belief in the correctness of Capital crime and punishment, knowing they were for gun control. See?
This is why a group of people with such an insane ideology in both practical application and theory, can be as successful as the Democrats are and the left in Canada may well be, and soon.
I don’t have any kind of a solution to that conundrum…
commented 2015-10-18 15:34:37 -0400
Too true. Many of my American friends, one who has a son with autism, saw their coverage costs skyrocket and service diminish with bambamcare. His admin has taken over what should be private sector biz, and of course govt in anything destroys it. One-sixth of the US economy is a big chunk of change, and it’s just more bloated govt inefficiencies (check out the $billions spent on their messed up healthcare website). It’s funny that Canadian healthcare is a minimal service, and I always marvel at how govt emplyees, including healthcare workers in BC at least, get extra coverage under Blue Cross (govt healthcare isn’t good enough for them). We, the tax payer, fund those benefits. *spit
commented 2015-10-18 12:51:06 -0400
Lol, hey Dr Smyth, a Conservative doesn’t change based on nationality. Ideology as you studied it is quite unchanged by definition. Perhaps your Liberal slant on truth fogs your cognizance. As a physician you have received adequate training in psychology to comprehend the human tendency to rationalize.
commented 2015-10-18 12:29:28 -0400
Ezra, I agree with a lot of your comments but not this one. I have been a Canadian Physician for 20 years and I visit the US three times per year. Obamacare while not perfect is a huge move forward for the US. You are wrong that less people are not covered and for the last 2 years the actual premium rates have risen the lowest in a decade. You will see the requested increases be very high, but then the approved rate increase is just a few percent. Coverage before Obamacare was a joke, it didn’t cover a lot of things and you could be denied if they felt you lied about your pre-exiting conditions. They pay 12 % of GDP and we pay around 7% for Health Care.

The one issue I have with the Rebel is that you want to call yourself a Conservative and then side with US Conservatives. A Canadian Conservative is not like an American Conservative at all. Republicans are bought and paid for and many are religious fanatics just like Muslim extremists. They are bigots, racists, misogynists and low information Fox viewers.

I vote Conservative in Alberta, I am pro-public funding for Health Care but pro-private delivery where possible. I am pro- death penalty but pro-gun control. I want a flat tax, I want pipelines, and I want the solution to Climate Change to stop being all about choking Alberta’s economy. Most of the greenhouse gasses come from the Cattle Industry as there are 1.5 billion cattle on the planet (look it up). Combine this with all the tanker ships from the Middle East carrying oil and burning bunker fuel to do it, and you have many more times the green house effect from all other fossil fuels. I also think that the Muslim Religion is currently the most dangerous religion on the planet and have looked extensively at the late Christopher Hitchens work and Sam Harrris’ videos.

So Evra don’t get caught up in ideology so much, a free thinker can agree and disagree and still vote against the idiot Trudeau and be for Obama.
commented 2015-10-18 03:27:58 -0400
Jimmy sorry but legitimate criticism is not hate , you are a TRUE bigot.
commented 2015-10-18 03:27:13 -0400
Jimmy Da silva sorry but actual numbers matter, not some lobbyists opinion, and sorry but Obama used the IRS as a political attack tool buddy, sorry to burst your little fantasy bubble.
commented 2015-10-18 02:34:21 -0400
Jimmy, Barack Hussein Obama, America’s traitor President, has violated his oath of office by changing laws with a stroke of his pen, something the Constitution forbids him from doing. He should have been impeached for that years ago, but Obama hasn’t been impeached because (1) the Democrats in Congress will see America destroyed before impeaching their twisted hero; (2) the Republicans in Congress have realized Obama is a psychopath with no conscience who will see them all incarcerated or dead before he allows himself to be impeached; (3) therefore they have concluded the best thing to do is wait it out and pray he leaves at the end of his term, as opposed to cancelling the next election and, in effect, staging a Hitler-style coup and remaining on as America’s Emperor past his worst before date. Make no mistake: they are all terrified of this lawless psycho in the Oval Office and what he might do if they try to impeach him. The fact that you don’t know that reflects on your delusion of American Utopia under Emperor Hussein.
commented 2015-10-17 22:01:34 -0400

Maybe in your seething with hate brain – but not in reality, which is the exact reason why he hasn’t been impeached.
commented 2015-10-17 20:54:09 -0400
Jimmy Da Silva c

There are plenty of reasons to impeach, convict and remove Oblowo from office for his constitutional violations.
commented 2015-10-17 20:52:28 -0400
Jimmy….nobody here is going to suck a cock in order to prove the they are not “homophobic”

Nobody here is going to pay a dhimmi tax in order to prove that they are not “Islamophobic”

Nobody here is going to bend over to the extortion of a “carbon tax” on the lame pretense that you can control the weather through taxation.

Nobody here is going to be happy about sending their sons to war……nor to situations that are actually war in all but name….even if that should be at the behest of the UN….or NATO……without proper kit….

Jimmy….I could streatch this on….and on…..and on …..

You cannot prevail…..you are outclassed….you are out of your league…….:-)
commented 2015-10-17 20:43:16 -0400
Jimmy….If you came here to hard sell the Liberal perspective….you came to the wrong place.
commented 2015-10-17 20:41:22 -0400
Jimmy…If you came here to hard sell Obama….you came to the wrong place.
commented 2015-10-17 19:53:49 -0400

Because there is no reason to impeach Obama. Not agreeing with something or someone politically isn’t a reason to impeach. It was obviously different with Nixon.
commented 2015-10-17 19:48:22 -0400

Well to answer your question – you have to understand first that Canada is very much a socialist country, so if you don’t know this or don’t like it, then clearly Canada isn’t for you.

Now will you explain why conservatives are like flies on shit when it comes to fear mongering, hyperbole and propaganda?
commented 2015-10-17 19:38:53 -0400
Obama has definitely set out to destroy the middle class, and I think he’s gutted America, for she no longer resembles her once proud self. Too many are looking to Obama like he is a father figure, because he is giving them things, and making people dependent on the government. I think Michelle is the brains, and Obama the figurehead only. I don’t understand why he hasn’t been impeached. They wanted to crucify Nixon back in the day, but Obama is giving a free pass because he’s black. I still can’t believe that he was given the Nobel Peace Prize!
commented 2015-10-17 19:14:48 -0400

Terrified of Obama – LOL. Where do you get this shit from. When Obamacare wasn’t doing so hot at first, the American Medical Association had no problem saying that it was a mess. But since big things like this actually take time and we can’t expect any healthcare plan to be awesome overnight – they are now able to determine with facts that Obamacare has been very successful and certainly much better than how things were before.
commented 2015-10-17 18:19:36 -0400
Andrew Stephenson commented
@ vlad,
Yet, oddly, it’s the left that is accused of derangement.

Vlad is a straight shooter and he doesn’t hold back, someone has to keep the moonbats in line. Politeness and debate rarely works with the moonbats.
commented 2015-10-17 18:05:52 -0400
Veterans Affairs Canada is the health insurer of Canadian Armed Forces veterans as well as the RCMP. As such we shopped diligently for the best bargain and bang for buck.

In the realm of health care there simply is no “best fit” that is based on political ideology….left or right.

Idealy socialized medicine is no fault…pre-existing condition notwithstanding…group insurance. That works fine until the insurer gets in conflict with the providers for price level.

The right wing free market is far from perfect….they do not want to even enter the no fault …pre-existing condition notwithstanding…market at all.

And where free market competition in ideological theory would work best….in America it drives the price up and out of reach.

There is an intersection in Denver Colorado that has a hospital on each corner….if it ever snowed there you could hit the other three with a snowball…from the streetside corner of any one of them.

But because they are obliged to compete with each other…each one is obliged to get phenomenally expensive medical diagnostic gear…..CAT scan…MRI scan…..neuclear medicine equipment…..four times redundant in a situation where tunnels under the street and patients moved on gurneys a short distance whould reduce the requirement 75%….and the cost of these machines is not on a per use basis….it is pro-rated to every bed….making the per diem bed rate three times what it actually needs to be.

Hospital administrative staff at typical American hospitals is four times what it is in the “bureaucracy laden” Canadian hospitals because there is such a diversity of forms, procedures etc in serving literally hundreds of insurance companies….compared to ONE standard provincial form.

And then there is how the subscriber pays for it…..The USA federal government does not have the jurisdictional authority to enact anything like what we have enacted in Canada…and besides….which do you prefer….sales tax subscription….or payroll deduction as they do in Ontario?

Veterans Affairs Canada opted to have Blue Cross administrate the lions share of it’s health care administration….certain “hot potato” issues such as opiate prescriptions….medical marijuana…and unapproved experimental drugs still get referred to VAC.

What is the saving to the taxpayer?…..Blue Cross has no pension plan for it’s workers and THAT saving is ALL that it’s about….and NO….that was not Harper’s decision.

In the United States…it cannot be denied that if you can afford it wait times are shorter…..but take it from someone who had to be a gatekeeper of taxpayer funded benefits….when the suppliers know the services are insured….they say Santa Claus has come to town and they take measures more heroic than they would take for the sake of their own bodies if they had to pay for it….the system becomes supplier driven wether it be private insurance or state underwritten….

In the United States you can get a quadruple bypass operation on twenty minutes notice….wether you actually need one or not….regardless of wether it is state or privately insured.

This is a very complex topic and both sides of it should abandon political ideology ans seek solutions that are for the greater good.
commented 2015-10-17 17:55:59 -0400
Thank you for sharing that and God Bless you.
I think there’s a little more to what you said, in that, when a person who has been indoctrinated in the insanity producing ideology of the left – and who hasn’t had the benefit of an intervention by a friend and God – they often grow out of that juvenile and immature mindset with time and they become more conservative in their thinking, with experience.
But with the Jimmies of the world, when they don’t mature and learn, they become shrill and strident, hateful and ugly in their need to tear down – rather than build or create. So it’s not so much that they’re incurable because of their upbringing – consequences not of their doing – as much as it is, they choose to act out that way – how their personality has developed, or not…
Which is why a Christian will feel pity for a wretch like Jimmy, rather than contempt…which this weak sinner is still working on.
commented 2015-10-17 17:43:03 -0400
Kenneth, you hit the nail right on the head with your comment 1 hour ago. We have prime examples of those leftists right here in our midst posting their delusional comments.
commented 2015-10-17 17:41:30 -0400
Jimmy asks, “Why are conservatives such fucking suckers for fear mongering and propaganda?”

Why are lefties such as yourself such fucking suckers for a completely delusional socialist utopia that subjugates everyone to the state?
commented 2015-10-17 17:26:32 -0400
Like to continue this, Jimmy, but I have to take off for a while. I’ll leave you in Vlad’s tender hands until I return. Cheers
commented 2015-10-17 17:20:24 -0400
Jimmy, Obummercare a success? LOL! You better get a connection with reality before you start believing your own b.s.
commented 2015-10-17 17:17:42 -0400
The AMA is sucking up to the Obama administration because they are terrified of King Barry and don’t dare contradict his pet program propaganda. The fact is, Jimmy, that Obummercare is bankrupting middle class Americans. I’ll refrain from using profanity or calling you a retard, as you do your opponents here, because I have the facts.
commented 2015-10-17 17:07:18 -0400
Yes, we should ignore the American Medical Association.


Absolute retards here.

Why are conservatives such fucking suckers for fear mongering and propaganda?
commented 2015-10-17 16:41:59 -0400
Peter wrote, "Does anyone understand why lefties are so incapable of learning and seeing the world as it really is?

Peter, it’s because they have been indoctrinated (in many cases by their leftist parents, since they were toddlers; in other cases by the ‘education’ system, as impressionable young people) in a world view that is a total delusion. I can say that because I was the product of both forms of indoctrination, and it was effective. Only the prayers of Christian friends freed me from that indoctrinated world view of the left. Happily, I can report that the Christian cure is also very effective. The reason is that it restores a world view based on reality, and not on the fantasies of supposed molecules-to-man evolution, a supposed animal nature of mankind, and the supposed necessity of servitude to the state for all one’s needs. I submit that anyone who is bound by these delusions is susceptible to the communist philosophy and is likely incurable except for the intervention of God in such a life, in the person of Jesus Christ, as fortunately happened to me.
commented 2015-10-17 16:32:08 -0400
Yet, oddly, it’s the left that is accused of derangement.
commented 2015-10-17 16:12:10 -0400
Big pharma agenda. Barry lives on kickbacks