September 02, 2015

Ontario's new road safety rules: Why some are unrealistic, unfair

Brian LilleyRebel Co-Founder
 

Kathleen Wynne's government has finally addressed an issue Ontarians care about: Traffic and road safety. Some new regulations took effect September 1, while others kick in in the new year.

Fines and penalties for texting while driving are way up.

So are laws against "dooring" cyclists.

However, some new rules -- those that favour cyclists and pedestrians -- are unrealistic and unfair.



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commented 2015-09-05 15:34:10 -0400
Brian, seems to me that I heard a policeman explain on CFRA last week (it might have been with Rob Snow during the Afternoon Edition) that the pedestrian rule (must be completely through the crosswalk) is not for intersections but rather for those streets that have pedestrians walk ways half-way between two intersections…where the pedestrian presses a button and the light flashes over the roadway to allow them to walk across rather than walk a long distance to the closest intersection. Don’t get me wrong I am not defending this corrupt provincial government or their Nanny State rules and regs. All of these changes have certainly made me a more paranoid driver though.
commented 2015-09-04 15:13:14 -0400
My number one complaint has always been that hands-free cell phone use is distracted driving also, but not illegal. When you get in a car you should know where you are going, how you are going to get there and do nothing but safely and alertly drive from point A to point B. When you arrive and park, crank up the radio loud, yell and shout, look all around, eat a big mac and gulp a big gulp, text and talk or whatever you legally want to do…you are safely stopped and absolutely no danger anymore. Now those darn countdown lights. Nobody obeys them. They are there so that if the white pedestrian walking is on when you step off the curb, you can legally move to the other side and when the countdown begins you know how fast you must go to get safely across. However, if the big red hand is up and you are still on the curb you CANNOT proceed legally. If I hit you you’ll lose your court case because you were illegally crossing. This activity certainly contributes to grid lock in most big city downtown areas as cars simply cannot make right and left turns and rush hour times. Please pedestrians obey the rules! Now for the completely clearing the crosswalk, I thought it was for those demand crosswalks occurring in specific areas like in the middle of a block near a school, church or hospital. I guess I was wrong and coupled to the illegal red stop hand crossings will create more grid lock in our cities.
What a crazy world we live in!
commented 2015-09-04 11:30:07 -0400
These laws are a revenue generating tool.
commented 2015-09-03 20:29:00 -0400
The law on moving over when approaching emergency vehicles on the shoulder will actually cause more accidents. As a truck driver, we can’t always see them until the last second. We always try to move over but it takes time to do so safely. If you add a significant penalty to not moving over, cars will get crushed. Just sayin’.
commented 2015-09-03 20:14:02 -0400
Did anyone expect that the wynne government would actually do something that is good for Ontarians? This is just another example of many items which this corrupt Premier expects us all to grab our ankles and accept. (whether we like it if not) I’m still having a hard time finding someone who will admit to voting for this parasite…
commented 2015-09-03 20:05:04 -0400
Hi Folks. I live out in Edmonton so these new changes dont affect me, but we do have some similar laws already in effect regarding distracted driving, etc. I agree with Brian on every point he makes in the video.

And yes, if you are stopped on the right hand side of the road (curb lane, etc), waiting to turn right or letting someone out/in the car, it is illegal for any vehicle, that includes cyclists, to pass you on the right. My advice here is make sure you pull up tighter to the curb and put your hazards on. Any intelligent cyclist should pass on the left anyway. Only a dumb cyclist would try passing on the right.

My advice to everyone who drives is get a good quality dash camera that automatically starts to record your driving as soon as you turn on your vehicle. This can protect you in the event of anothers negligence, regardless whether they are driving, cycling or j-walking. Also handy in case of crazy road rage drivers.
commented 2015-09-03 19:08:34 -0400
Brian it doesn’t have to make sense or be fair and reasonable – regulations are about revenues the get out of jail concession always carries a price – it’s a shake down and always has been. Ontario is broke and in debt with a stagnating economy so the big squeeze is on to extract maximum revenues from petty regulatory infraction (helps if the regs are impossible to follow) licence and permit increases – every little detail will be regulated and fines attached. – it’s the only thing kleptocrats know.

A warning to future pensioners – they are eyeing all that untaxed public pension money like salivating vultures.
commented 2015-09-03 13:33:04 -0400
Grip Tight Wynn is gouging again. Typical Left Wing Scammer. What about the Youths, who think it is funny to stop in the middle of the Crosswalk and tie their shoe laces.
commented 2015-09-03 11:32:08 -0400
As a cyclist myself I can clearly say the revised laws are giving to much leniency to cyclists. I’ve seen some REAL idiot cyclists out there and have seen them nearly hurt or killed because of their “stunting” and disregard of the traffic laws, as well as texting while cycling and having both ears tuned into music to the point where they cannot hear traffic. Even in bicycle lanes, riders are supposed to travel with the flow on traffic. I’ve almost had head-on collisions with other cyclists BECAUSE of the fact the were on the wrong side of the road. Cyclists are supposed to be subject to the same road rules as a motor vehicle and it should be sterner on cyclists given the fact that a car beats bike in a collision EVERY TIME!

That being said, there are motorists that are ignorant of the laws themselves. I’ve seen MANY door accidents due to the driver not watching. Some drivers don’t even check their areas to see if the way is clear. I’ve burned through enough brake pads to keep the industry blossoming.

While I agree with a few of the law updates, I don’t agree with them all. What needs to be done, is having cyclists be accountable for their own actions. They don’t have to be licensed or insured, but definitely accountable. If they caused damage, or injury beyond a reasonable doubt, they should be charged accordingly. However motorists should be more wary about their surroundings as well. Courtesy goes along way for both sides.
commented 2015-09-03 11:31:59 -0400
As a cyclist myself I can clearly say the revised laws are giving to much leniency to cyclists. I’ve seen some REAL idiot cyclists out there and have seen them nearly hurt or killed because of their “stunting” and disregard of the traffic laws, as well as texting while cycling and having both ears tuned into music to the point where they cannot hear traffic. Even in bicycle lanes, riders are supposed to travel with the flow on traffic. I’ve almost had head-on collisions with other cyclists BECAUSE of the fact the were on the wrong side of the road. Cyclists are supposed to be subject to the same road rules as a motor vehicle and it should be sterner on cyclists given the fact that a car beats bike in a collision EVERY TIME!

That being said, there are motorists that are ignorant of the laws themselves. I’ve seen MANY door accidents due to the driver not watching. Some drivers don’t even check their areas to see if the way is clear. I’ve burned through enough brake pads to keep the industry blossoming.

While I agree with a few of the law updates, I don’t agree with them all. What needs to be done, is having cyclists be accountable for their own actions. They don’t have to be licensed or insured, but definitely accountable. If they caused damage, or injury beyond a reasonable doubt, they should be charged accordingly. However motorists should be more wary about their surroundings as well. Courtesy goes along way for both sides.
commented 2015-09-03 11:03:02 -0400
Yes passing on the right even whilebyou are stopped to turn right. I was turning right in my Vette convertible, checked my right mirror and no one in sight. I signalled and turned only to hear a load bang as a cyclist smashed into my plastic car. All u saw was him cartwheeling onto the hood of my car. He was behind a van behind me witch concealed him as he sped around the van hitting me. Fortunately he wasn’t hurt and admitted it was his fault. A weird woman yelled at me and told him to sue me but he said it was his fault.
So do bikes have to drop before a light etc when there is a lineup of cars. That wasn’t the first time I have been pass with speed at stop lights by bikes.
commented 2015-09-03 10:30:37 -0400
She didn’t raise your taxes this time but she got her hand in your wallet again.
commented 2015-09-03 06:06:13 -0400
Brian, you read my mind. When I pass a cyclist now, if I should come to a red light, I pull over to the curb leaving no room to pass on the right. If jaywalkers obstruct my path I’ll let them have the horn. Depending on weather conditions. If people cared about excessive vehicle emissions, they wouldn’t make traffic stop and go just because they are too lazy to use a crosswalk properly
commented 2015-09-02 23:57:26 -0400
Pat Benatar was wrong; Hell is NOT for Children … it is for everyone living under a socialist dictator like Wynne and Notley!
commented 2015-09-02 23:29:29 -0400
Again, this is not Law, this is pre-crime statutory legal garbage. Statute comes from the word Status. What’s your status in this “traffic safety” legal-racket? Are you a holy pedestrian or cyclist?? Or are you one of the lowly motor vehicles that the far-left begs to bannish? What is your status? Status is incompatible with the Lawful concepts of equal rights and liberty. Learn about Natural Law, its time to kick this legal-positivist trash to the curb.
commented 2015-09-02 22:24:07 -0400
1) The crosswalk rule applies ONLY to designated pedestrian crosswalks/crossovers (the kind with yellow flashing lights and pedestrians point and then cross the street). It doesn’t apply to regular intersections. SOURCE: http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/handbook/section2.5.3.shtml.

2) The 1 metre berth only applies to cars PASSING bicyclists, so it is a completed action that police would be looking for: either you pass a cyclist and give the berth or you cut too close while passing AND you had the opportunity to give the 1 metre clearance. It’s not applicable to being stopped at intersections where things can naturally jam up or on narrow roads where it’s not practical to give the 1 metre clearance. “All drivers to maintain a minimum distance of one-metre when passing cyclists where possible” SOURCE: http://news.ontario.ca/mto/en/2015/06/ontario-passes-legislation-to-improve-road-safety.html

Nevertheless, I agree that cyclists aren’t being held to account with these new laws.
commented 2015-09-02 21:33:34 -0400
Once again the Liberals have completely missed the boat. It is time that bike riders were made to obey the existing laws. Red lights mean ‘stop’, not ‘slow down’. ‘Share the lane’ means that bikes do not own it. ‘One Way’ means that and only that. The white lines that divide the riding lanes from the driving lanes are not an invitation to ride down the painted line.

The only way that bike riders will ever obey the laws is if they have ‘skin in the game’. It is time that bike riders were tested, licensed and insured. It is time that police forces enforced the laws already on the books. If bike riders want all the rights of vehicle operation then they must also assume the responsibilities.
commented 2015-09-02 21:11:14 -0400
Thanks for that Brian, again, I agree with you. Make cyclists and pedestrians also obey the rules of the road.
Common sense.
But then, there been a lack of common sense in Ontario lately.
commented 2015-09-02 19:01:51 -0400
so the bike rider pass’s on the right and get’s door-ed and i get the fine ? is it not illegal to pass on the right of vehicles in curb lane especially while stopped ?
commented 2015-09-02 18:45:58 -0400
Yes I had a green left turn arrow and a woman crossed against a do not walk.she hung us up in the intersection until we list our turn light.
Make bike riders obey the laws
In TO I have been almost run down crossing in an intersection with a green light. Bike was racing around the corner and almost hit us at speed. U should have dropped him.