July 14, 2015

Planned Parenthood isn't pro-choice, it's pro-death -- for a profit

Rebel Staff
 

In a shocking undercover video, a Planned Parenthood senior director matter of factly admits that they sell aborted body parts for profit.

She talks about this casually over lunch, displaying a "banality of evil" rivals that of the Nazis.

We learn in gory detail that Planned Parenthood performs abortions differently based on what body parts they plan to "harvest."

The whole thing is shocking and disturbing.

But is it going on in Canada?

Do you think the mainstream media will even try to find out?


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commented 2015-07-18 06:25:38 -0400
Jimmy, thank you for confirming — once again — that you are an idiot. Saves me the trouble of responding. At this point, it’s just a waste of time in the face of such wilful ignorance.
commented 2015-07-17 15:17:19 -0400
Actually, Christian Germany were very much against family planning. They didn’t mind getting rid of their rival religious sects, but that was because Hitler held in him the Christian teaching that the Jew was the killer of god. So yeah, the Nazis of Christian Germany were not pro choice.
commented 2015-07-17 13:18:23 -0400
Fucktards? Jimmy you didn’t have a mother, you were hatched by a snake.
commented 2015-07-17 13:17:08 -0400
What the apologists for Planned Parenthood, primarily a giant abortion mill, seem to willingly gloss over is Planned Parenthood’s senior director of medical services, Dr. Deborah Nucatola, admitting that in order to get the most marketable body parts (just “tissue”, according to Planned Parenthood CEO Cecile Richards) she uses illegal partial-birth abortion procedures, an abortion in which the person performing the abortion partially vaginally delivers a living fetus before killing the fetus and completing the delivery, a felony punishable by up to two years in prison.
A graphic of the procedure provided here:
http://stm-church.com/pbapics.htm
commented 2015-07-17 12:41:46 -0400
Ian,

Yep – Ezra and many conservatives happy about this “smoking gun” in the hopes that it will shut Planned Parenthood down have been completely duped.
commented 2015-07-17 12:38:22 -0400
Erin,

You are so delusional about The Rebel and Ezra Levant – this isn’t a news site. It’s a conservative opinion site. There is no journalism going on here. And I never said Salon was a news site either.

Why do you think Ezra has gotten into so much trouble for lying, libel and breaking code of ethics. He may even be disbarred now by The Law Society of Alberta, which would be great – Ezra won’t be able to hype himself as a lawyer in the media when he gets into trouble for his bullshit.
commented 2015-07-17 12:18:56 -0400
Erin,

No I didn’t use Salon as my source. There sources much more reputable that The Rebel calling bullshit on the video and I just happened to like the Salon piece. Glad I could clear that up for you.

Snopes is leaning false on this – they just haven’t updated yet. If you are familiar with Snopes – they will often go from undetermined to false. If this was such a slam dunk like The Rebel, fucktards like you and fear mongering conservative websites are making it out to be – Snopes would have no choice from the get go to say that the story is completely factual. But sorry, it’s not a slam dunk.
commented 2015-07-17 12:16:14 -0400
The video is not a lie. It may have lead before the whole picture was able to be assimilated, but it was not untrue.
Fetal body parts are harvested, for profit, to researchers. It is stated clearly in Erins link for the StemExpress brochure, which is aimed at abortion clinics. If you haven’t watched any of the unedited version, I recommend you listen to the first 20 min. at least.
So exactly what is the lie Charleton G.

I also question the consent aspect, and that arrangements could never be manipulated making later term abortions more prevalent for the benefit of better tissue samples for researchers. It was mentioned in the vid that the more desired samples were not harvested from very early term abortions.
commented 2015-07-17 11:59:19 -0400
Ian I agree. The video is an edited lie. I’m no fan of planned parenthood but the video was a joke.
commented 2015-07-17 11:21:54 -0400
Last paragraph in link Erin posted lays out quite clearly that there are financial benefits. Looks like a slippery slope to me.
commented 2015-07-17 11:02:16 -0400
TERRY RUDDEN, “Wow, Ron. It’s too bad you didn’t apply your ace investigative skills – you know, like your creepy act of publishing a link to baby pictures of my granddaughter on this site – to reading up a bit on your source for this. Since you didn’t, let me educate you.”
With respect to my so-called “creepy act of publishing a link to baby pictures of (your) granddaughter on this site”, spare me your sanctimonious, self-righteous indignation! Terry, who likes to nitpick on details, with respect to baby pictures one finds one composite photo supposedly of his granddaughter and him interspersed with political cartoons, raunchy pictures of women with political messages written on their bodies, etc. Just the kind of photo album any proud grandfather would like to assemble:
http://s278.photobucket.com/user/balbulican/library/
The link above was previously provided at The Rebel post “Manchurian candidate” Obama “was Iran’s lawyer” in nuclear talks.
With respect to discrediting Skousen, a typical leftist ploy – if you don’t like the message, shoot the messager or make ad homonym attacks. Throw all the mud you want against him. The fact is that he was a former FBI agent, whether in the capacity of primarily a clerk or whatever you claim. I leave it to individuals to judge how well the Communists over the past 57 years through cultural Marxism have succeeded in attaining their 45 goals as set out Skousen’s 1958 book.
As far as your ‘educating’ me, you provide a link to an article in Salon, a liberal ‘progressive’ online web site". That’s laughable. Salon is nothing less than an excellent example of the product of Marxist theorist Antonio Gramsci’s cultural Marxist approach of employing a slow “long march through the institutions”. No thanks. With respect to your generous offer of ‘educating’ me, if I choose to ‘educate’ (indoctrinate) myself in that way, I can simply go for such ‘enlightenment’ to the CBC, The Toronto (Red) Star, The Globe & Mail, Salon, The People’s Voice, etc. or leftwing ‘progressive’ blogs like that of your good friend ‘Dr. Dawg’, supposedly providing “News, Views and Analysis”, which, by the way, has you listed as a “contributor”:
http://drdawgsblawg.ca/
One finds some interesting posts there by your buddy, including a recent (July 16) crass political cartoon lampooning Harper as Christ (why doesn’t he, by the way, generate a cartoon with the ‘prophet’ Muhammad?), a lament that the Canadian Senate didn’t uphold “transgender rights", gushing over convicted terrorist Omar Kadr, calling for a boycott of Israel, and diatribes against that “wretch” Ezra Levant.
But, unfortunately, I don’t have to go to those sites for “News, Views and Analysis”, which I choose not to do, for, alas, it comes to us in you and others like foulmouthed JIMMY DA SILVA.
commented 2015-07-17 11:01:34 -0400
Thanks for the full video Ian. I watched the first 20 minutes of it,and it does paint a broader picture. I don’t think anyone is doing it for the money….yet, and/or most aren’t. I still don’t believe there is always consent. I can understand the point of tissue, parts, for research. But I still have some problems with it. Too many questions come up.
The most valuable specimens don’t come from the early term abortions. That in itself is very bothersome to me.

Ian says the interviewer is not the buyer or seller, but it is clear that they are posing as middlemen between the hospitals and clinics and the labs of the researchers.
commented 2015-07-17 10:51:22 -0400
Well, Ian, undercover police officers are not real buyers either but the courts believe them when it comes to drug cases.
commented 2015-07-17 10:02:17 -0400
Ezra, you’ve been duped. The video was highly edited to mislead the viewer into thinking parts were up for sale—they are not. The interviewer is not a buyer, the interviewee is not a seller. Watch the full unedited video with transcript here: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/44841_The_Full_Planned_Parenthood_Sting_Video_Reveals_Right_Wing_Deception_Tactics#rss-sm

“Buyer: Right. Is that- are there affiliates, who would just donate the tissue for free?
PP: Probably. I mean really, the guidance is, this is not something you should be making an exorbitant amount of money on.

“PP: No. Nothing, no affiliate should be doing anything that’s not like, reasonable and customary. This is not- nobody should be “selling” tissue. That’s just not the goal here.

From the link:
“Again, Planned Parenthood and other clinics do not profit from the sale of fetal tissues; these specimens are donated by the women who undergo procedures, like any other tissue might be donated from any other medical procedure. Any fees involved are only intended to cover costs of handling, shipping, storage, etc. Nobody profits from these donations.”
commented 2015-07-17 06:00:05 -0400
Jimmy, you clearly cited salon.com as your source. Read your own post again. Also, the salon.com piece isn’t key-worded as opinion or editorial anywhere. Instead, it is specifically described by the terms “news” and “political news”. Unlike salon.com, TheRebel.Media doesn’t claim to be anything other than what it is — a conservative news media site. It doesn’t deny its bias, like salon.com, but proudly acknowledges the fact that it’s editorial slant is conservatively-oriented. TheRebel also doesn’t make up inferences as to what somebody really means by a particular statement and report them as fact, whereas salon.com seems to have absolutely no objection to doing just that. Incredibly, in defense of the latest incident, salon.com argued that its perception of a person’s meaning trumps the actual words spoken by that individual. Salon.com is primarily obsessed with stories featuring gratuitous sexual situations, like dolphin-fucking, why anal sex will screw up your relationship, or even how incest is apparently more “normal” than you think. In summary, your equivalence of salon.com with TheRebel.Media is demonstrably invalid.
Speaking of Snopes, however, didn’t it conclude that the video hoax myth was “Undetermined”? I.e. the folks over at Snopes couldn’t find any evidence that it was a hoax. Huh. So, why exactly are you convinced it’s a hoax again?
I wonder if you bothered to check out the link in the Snopes article to the StemExpress brochure aimed at abortion and obstetric clinics. No? Well I did, and here it is: http://www.centerformedicalprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/StemExpress-flyer.pdf
Isn’t it interesting how often the brochure alludes to the prospect of financial gain?
commented 2015-07-17 01:56:31 -0400
Maybe Ezra can now focus on the possibility of being disbarred by The Law Society of Alberta due to his usual bullshit.
commented 2015-07-17 01:53:11 -0400
Erin

I am not using Salon as my source. But I thought the opinion piece – like Ezra does here for conservatives was interesting. There is no difference between Salon and The Rebel.

Snopes is also in the process of calling bullshit on this – but they haven’t updated yet from a few days ago.

http://m.snopes.com/pp-baby-parts-sale/
commented 2015-07-17 00:53:32 -0400
Yes, Jimmy. A single opinion piece on salon.com is obviously proof the video is a hoax. Right. You might want to try reading fewer liberal tabloids, like salon.com, and more real news. It’s no wonder salon.com has been consistently unprofitable from the beginning, with trashy articles like this.
The video may have been edited and in some ways could be misleading. There is obviously a difference between selling fetal body parts for profit and simply being compensated for the shipping costs associated with “donating” fetal body parts. But that hardly makes it a hoax.
Parts of the video that weren’t edited include the description of how abortions methods are varied in order to maximize viability of whatever fetal body parts are then in demand. It’s unclear if she’s describing Planned Parenthood’s methods or just providing information about the practices of abortion providers in general. Either way, if this is happening, it’s a HUGE problem. In any medical procedure, including abortion, the patient’s health and safety should be the only concern, and any doctor who doesn’t have this as their prime focus should not be allowed to practice medicine. All I see is a gigantic conflict of interest here, whether the providers are profiting from it or not.
I am also not convinced that informed consent is truly being obtained, and would like to see some proof. I can tell you from personal experience that the subject of “donating” fetal tissue never came up once.
Rae Fraser also makes an excellent point. Liberals are always up in arms over animal welfare issues, and rail against killing bears just to harvest their gall bladders and sell them to Asian markets, where the organs are highly valued for use in so-called “traditional medicine”. Liberals call this evil and scream about the rights of the poor, innocent bear. I would agree (up to the point of extending human rights to bears). How is this any different?
commented 2015-07-17 00:26:38 -0400
Thanks for that Jimmy, as if that makes it all okay. Read your own article duffass! Pathetic.
commented 2015-07-17 00:14:48 -0400
Terry: still waiting for you to answer my question. Name the victim. You know what I’m talking about.
This is where you remind us how good it is of you to correct us knuckle – dragging neo-cons in our misconceptions, dispute erroneous facts when we raise them, or correct errors in logic in our arguments, right? BTW, the current argument; Ezra’s got every right to present this story as is, I can’t say I wouldn’t with the same sources. Your posting of a sort-of rebuttal is pretty weak, as it’s basically just PP saying “No, we did – n’t!”. You put it as something by “real journalists” but it was a the result of re-writing a press release by PP, not a huge investigative job there Terry! Maybe next time try to find something a bit more mainstream than a rag that advertises itself as a Liberal mouthpiece, also, you know? Jimmy’s argument is stronger, but to say that it’s a “hoax” is probably wrong and the claim that it proves right wing extremists have no problem destroying people’s lives is pretty thick. But even so, this news is coming out a full day after the original video surfaced, and with PP’s “nu uh” as the only thing against the allegations I fail to see how Ezra’s wrong in saying what he’s said. Even if every thing that could be wrong about this story is wrong, Ezra’s story still doesn’t have any erroneous facts to dispute; it becomes an opinion piece, which is exactly what every other video on this site involving Ezra is. You can disagree with him, but point out anything that’s factually wrong.
commented 2015-07-16 23:20:37 -0400
The video is fake and it was hoax. What do you have to say now Ezra?
commented 2015-07-16 23:12:22 -0400
I certainly do agree with your last one absolute Rae, as well as the rest of your post. I have always held that no one has a right to decide for a woman regarding her own body. But this is what you said. Grave robbing.
commented 2015-07-16 22:30:15 -0400
I guess that I was wrong. I watched the video again. I said that I am pro-abortion—— for me , all that means is Nobody has the Right to force someone to have a baby that they don’t want. They were raped, their Daddy is the father , etc—-all the horror stories—- Whom am I or whom are You to tell this Female that she must have this Baby with 3 arms ,4 legs , is blind ,deaf or dumb—— just because it makes you FEEL really good and then walk away. I am using the Extreme example here because that is the part that I missed in the video. If there is Evil-What these people do is Evil. It is similar to shooting a bear just for the sake of harvesting its’ gall bladder to sell to the Chinese. People are outraged because it is a nice furry animal. Not so for a foetus. Yes! I know many people have abortions just because it is the easy way out. I do believe that most people that have abortions , consider it to be a defining time in their life. Many regret it all their lives. There is No Absolute for Right or Wrong on this Issue. There is just one Absolute—— These modern day ‘Death Mongers’ make the olde ‘Grave Robbers’ look like Saints.
commented 2015-07-16 21:13:55 -0400
Another thought, at one point she says she had a whole list of requests for different types of body parts. And a full roster of people from which to harvest them in one day. I forget the number she said, 8?, (I’m not watching it again to confirm).

While I suppose if they are that organised it might be possible that all of those women gave consent, I have my doubts on that point. All legally obtained with consent? Not to mention the sale aspect is in itself illegal, and I don;t know if the “reimbursed for costs” argument would stand up in court. Sounds like nothing more than a try at a legal side step to me, and does nothing to lighten the gravity of this reality.
commented 2015-07-16 20:28:02 -0400
I have watched the video on the site mentioned in full, while it is still somewhat edited, I cannot take what she says any other way . She says what she says. Its bad.
commented 2015-07-16 16:47:47 -0400
PP donates legally obtained tissue and gets reimbursed for costs. Nice edit job though.
commented 2015-07-16 16:39:12 -0400
I don’t believe the edited video. For 3 years this group of anti abortionists has been investigating and this is all they found? They are known for false edited videos.