February 19, 2016

POLL: Most in Saskatchewan, Alberta say: Cut off equalization payments to anti-pipeline Quebec

Ezra LevantRebel Commander

The Liberal war against the west continues — and we have exclusive new poll results to show you.

As you know, Quebec receives $21 billion dollars a year in transfer payments, of which $10 billion is called equalization. That’s money taken from the so-called “have” provinces like Alberta and Saskatchewan, and dumped mainly into Quebec.

It’s still happening, even though Alberta is suffering economic devastation at the hands of low oil prices and an NDP government wrecking the place.

But things hit a new low recently when the Liberal mayor of Montreal, Denis Coderre, said he was going to work to block the proposed Energy East oil pipeline, from Alberta to New Brunswick.

So, Coderre wants oil money from Alberta and Saskatchewan. But no oil pipelines.

(Except for the OPEC oil pipeline that currently flows through Montreal, that Coderre has never opposed...)

We fought back — with a massive petition called Cut Them Off:

If Quebec Liberals didn’t want any oil from the west, they shouldn’t get any oil money.

But here’s today’s news — our exclusive poll of 300 Albertans and 300 Saskatchewanians.

Simple poll question:

Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: "Because Quebec politicians say they do not want western Canadian oil piped through their communities, Alberta and Saskatchewan should cut off equalization payments to Quebec."

And here’s what westerners said:

In Saskatchewan, 41% of people strongly agreed with that statement and another 28% moderately agreed — so that’s 69%.

But the numbers are even higher in Alberta:

54% of Albertans strongly agree that Quebec should be cut off.

Another 26% moderately agree. So 80%.

Every demographic group — both sexes, all ages. Westerners are sick of Quebec Liberals ripping them off.

Thank you for helping to pay for the cost of this poll — it was a special expense to get that large a sample size in Saskatchewan, so thank you.

If you want to help us continue this campaign -- including the billboard we'll be putting up across from Montreal City Hall next week -- please visit CutThemOff.ca


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commented 2016-02-22 17:53:28 -0500
AIM Albertas Independence Movement – seems like the only legit one I have seen so far for separation.
commented 2016-02-22 14:03:10 -0500
Richard Man commented – "Can some one tell me PLEASE!!!! Is there a good separation for the west group? "

They all vanished when Harper was elected,. Westerners thought hey finally were “IN” the governing of Canada when a n Albertan was elected PM – but what a disappointment on so many levels – the EEE senate? Lost., "Transparency in government? Lost Free votes in the house and the end of whipped votes? Lost Equal representation of western concerns on the public policy agenda? Lost Government Reform? Lost lost lost!

Separation or at least more self-realized autonomy for Alberta and the west are more viable now than ever as an option to coping with Ottawa Abuses.

Keep you eye peeled Richard the rumblings about a western/Alberta autonomy movement gets louder every day, and as PM Selfie continues to live in his little smug bubble while his Alinskyites make a second attempt destroy Alberta’s economic independence, it will grow like a prairie fire.
commented 2016-02-22 11:57:24 -0500
Richard Man. If you find a separation party for Alberta, let us know. www.freealberta.com may eventually start up again if they get sufficient hits on their website. It is really very informative,
commented 2016-02-22 11:28:20 -0500
Can some one tell me PLEASE!!!! Is there a good separation for the west group?
commented 2016-02-21 22:51:20 -0500
i can only speak for myself , but I got a feeling im not alone . im saying no more getting bent by the east . cut them off right now forget petitions and all this nice guy bullshit .so…. . you think you want our money ?? come and take it ….FUCK YOU …oops sorry didn’t mean to hurt your stupid feelings
if this sounds like a “separation drum beating” or a “civil war drum beating” . hmm…. AB. , SASK. NORTHEASTERN B.C. wouldn’t have a problem defending what is ours by what ever means necessary
And no I WILL NOT apologize for cursing in the comment . this topic has always made me nuts
commented 2016-02-21 19:04:44 -0500
The current equalization system (and constantly changing formula) are nothing more than a reward for running a shoddy irresponsible tax and spend government – so what if the public sector unions and special interests are raping the treasury – the feds will top us off. -we’ll get that dirty oil revenue and put it to use spreading crony kleptocratic socialism.

The unfortunate thing is this klepto-collectivist crap is written into the charter in a section the notwithstanding clause does not give a province an opt-out, it is in a section that can only be changed by amendment or dissolution of the charter -I choose the latter.
commented 2016-02-21 18:47:37 -0500
Canada is dysfunctional. The Aboriginals and Quebec are now the rulers of Canada. In 2001 University Professionals were prepared to help us separate. You can find their website at “www.freealberta.com” in which they set out in detail the abuse Alberta has suffered at the hands of Ottawa since 1905 but until they get enough hits on their website they are not prepared to help. Also our loyalty must be to Alberta and not Canada. I for one want to separate but contrary to what I read here separation has to be one province at a time. Trying to take on more than one will fail. Alberta has the advantage of having the youngest population in all of Canada as well as a highly educated population. Even our young teenagers want to separate as they see no future for themselves. They are well aware too they will be paying through the nose for the elderly in all of Canada. Is that fair? We could set up our own Election Laws so that if a party is elected that causes damage to our new country, the citizens can force an immediate election, have only two political parties so no longer can votes be split, and no outside organization is allowed to interfere with our elections (the U.N. organization, Leadnow, got Trudeau elected by telling the young and possibly the new immigrant they had to vote Liberal). Ottawa stole our parks in 1905 so we need very good negotiators to get them back without paying Ottawa. If we are going to separate and not just paying lip service, we need to do it asap so our portion of the federal debt does not get so huge we cannot afford to do it. So those of you who are really serious, perhaps you know professionals that can help.
commented 2016-02-21 18:33:18 -0500
I was born, raised and lived all my life in Saskatchewan in a proudly French family. Let me tell you what I want in my own language.” Vive le Saskatchewan libre.”
commented 2016-02-21 14:44:30 -0500
You summed it all up in a nutshell ,but it’s all ready taking hold out here.
The children from pre school on up have been infected on purpose
commented 2016-02-21 14:17:21 -0500
Gil Freund you are partly correct in that Quebec will never separate and it has nothing to do with nationalism… it is and always will be about money…… Quebec could never survive without Alberta’s oil transfers….. HOWEVER that is not true in the “West” not only has Alberta & Sask the resources (thus money) (yes it’s not great right now, but will return) but Westerners have a Get_er done work ethic that no mater what happens they put their backs to the job and do what ever needs doing… that cannot be said for Ontar-we-owe and Quebec….. YES we can separate (and survive on our own) and we will no matter how long it takes…..
commented 2016-02-21 13:44:46 -0500
Alberta transfers funds to socially , financially , delinquent provinces for equalization . Those provinces use payments as they see fit . They then borrow like drunken sailors driving debt skyward . The federal government provides funding that all canadians pay as tax . The federal government is then forced to borrow funds that all canadians pay for as debt , this is perpetual . Why be responsible , when you can eat from two tables and pay one waiter . Check it out debtclock .ca ,
commented 2016-02-21 13:44:46 -0500
Alberta transfers funds to socially , financially , delinquent provinces for equalization . Those provinces use payments as they see fit . They then borrow like drunken sailors driving debt skyward . The federal government provides funding that all canadians pay as tax . The federal government is then forced to borrow funds that all canadians pay for as debt , this is perpetual . Why be responsible , when you can eat from two tables and pay one waiter . Check it out debtclock .ca ,
commented 2016-02-21 11:34:52 -0500
I am a born and raised 64 year old Edmontonian. I think we should form our own country called Western Canada. We should build a refinery right here in Alberta. Then we wouldn’t need to ship our oil to Eastern Canada. We wouldn’t have to cross any borders and we could cut them off. Let them buy from the Saudis. That applies to the Americans to. Let Quebec pay it’s own way for a change. The only way to cut off equalization payments is to form our own country. This would be unfortunate for all Canadians but I am sick and tired of paying our hard earned petro dollars to French Canadians and Natives too. They always want to take and take and take but never give back. To hell with them and there gimmmee gimmeee gimmee. Rachel Notley has no balls and should resign. That’s another story!!
commented 2016-02-20 23:11:50 -0500
Yes cut them off, and any other so called group that is against pipe lines east and the O&G industry. It seems those who whine the loudest , get the biggest handout. No more transfers to provinces or groups who protest. I do think Alberta needs a leader that has some “sac” , Sask Premier Brad Wall is a true leader, I think we had one in the making until she was tricked by a wolf in sheep clothing, Sorry Danielle , oh what could have been. I think the next Alberta leader should go a pair,stand up for oil , and refuse any transfer payment anywhere, unless it transferred into a Alberta Heritage Fund. Once that has been topped up to 100 billion+ ,then we could talk about equalization payments, until then nothing is transferred. Any person in Canada over the age of 40 remembers that last time Alberta was in such trouble, and oh looky there!!! It was under power of another a$$hole named Trudeau. Be very careful Ontario & Quebec because you are now biting the hand that has feed you for years. Oil will come back and Alberta will prosper once again.
Turn off the taps east Alberta, and may global warming keep them all from freezing in the dark!!!
Alberta Proud & Strong
commented 2016-02-20 22:30:44 -0500
Does anybody really think one inch of pipeline is going to be built while Trudeau, Notley, Wynne and Couillard are in office? Anybody? Does anybody think equalization payments are going to be changed to be more fair for Alberta and Saskatchewan? Anybody? Does anybody think that Trudeau will not push through legislation to change the voting system to permanently favour the Liberals? Anybody? Does anybody think that we can survive a national carbon tax and a carbon tax in Alberta? Anybody? Does anybody think Canada will tolerate or can afford 180,000 additional muslim refugees into our country?
The writing is on the wall. It is time to get this separation from the east going and growing. I have already voiced my opinion several times to the Wildrose. Here it is. Merge with the PC’s now. Get it done. I don’t care if you hate each other. Get it done now. Once the merger is complete draft plans and be prepared to separate as a country, a confederation of western provinces or join the USA.
commented 2016-02-20 21:33:51 -0500
The cold war is not cold anymore, it is heating up fast. The USA recently announced Russia as their greatest enemy.
Putin’s KGB propaganda training regards leftists like Junior T. to be “useful idiots”.
Putin does not want Canada to be self reliant on oil energy. He wants the Montreal refineries to continue to be reliant on imported oil via the pipeline from Portland Maine.
Ideologists Junior T. and the Quebec elite don’t want the energy-east pipeline from Alberta which plays right into Putins hands.
Putin will flick ideological leftist Junior T. off like a flea and will have his way with Canada’s arctic.

Canada is extremely vulnerable at this crucial time and if we had any leadership with any kind of inkling of thought for brains they would connect the dots and realize we need all the oil pipelines being proposed.

I don’t like the odds of our sovereignty surviving with the caliber of people in charge.
commented 2016-02-20 21:20:16 -0500
I live in the toilet bowl know as Ontario. years of liberal mismanagement have devastated this province. it’s a wasteland of empty factories turned into storage for those who can no longer afford the lifestyle of their fathers. unions are corrupt , criminal organizations , windmills pollute the skyline with little return but a massive cost which has yet to be paid, factories are evil and employ mostly temporary labor for jobs that used to pay top dollar and the infrastructure is beginning to fail.
I pray the virus that has preyed upon us for so long now does not reach the west and render you sterile like us useless turds floating in the toilet bowl of Canada.
for the love of humanity, SAVE YOURSELF!
commented 2016-02-20 19:14:40 -0500
The only way you cut them off is to cut off the flow of O & G, I mean close the valve with 5 minutes notice. I’ll bet they’ll get the message. Otherwise, this will all fall on deaf ears as it always always has!!
I am beginning to think we are alone in the wilderness with no hope of rescue.
commented 2016-02-20 18:23:53 -0500
I’m from Alberta and I say no pipeline then no transfer payments to Quebec or any other Province who oppose us. You can’t have it both ways. So Notely better watch herself on how she handles turning the money over to Trudeau.
Now if you want to talk about stupidity Edmonton has awarded a 370 million dollar contract for its new lite rail transit and guess who they gave to contract to yup to Bombardier in Quebec The Mayor of Edmonton should be tarred and feathered. I’m sure Trudeau had his dirty little hands on this deal and Told Edmonton that if they wanted the transfer money then they better buy their rail cars from Bombardier. The deal stinks to high heaven.
commented 2016-02-20 18:17:01 -0500
Jim – "My Canada, does not, and never has, included Ottawa. For the Prairie provinces nothing good for this part of Canada EVER came from the east, except sunrise.
commented 2016-02-20 17:53:23 -0500
Whereas the Confederation structure in the first place gave the “HINTERLAND” [ west of the lakes and the Northern Territories] only token [minority] representation etc. — I think " REPUBLIC OF WESTERN CANADA" is a very worthy and legitimate consideration. NOT TO SEPARATE – but to be united as a unit equal to each of Quebec and Ontario and function as part of Canada. This union would include the four western provinces and the Northern Territories. I still feel that my Canada is worth saving.
commented 2016-02-20 17:50:36 -0500
The poll numbers are not higher because there are so many of us working in guaranteed government-related jobs and academia that are doing just fine thanks to the power and backing of their unions and professional associations ( i.e. white collar unions ). For them, right now life is good.