November 02, 2016

Prof. Jordan Peterson: “Dangerous” Ontario Human Rights Commission should be abolished

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Our own Lauren Southern has been reporting on the case of University of Toronto professor Jordan Peterson, who is under fire for refusing to use politically correct gender pronouns. Last night, I spoke to him about his fight for free speech. Here's an excerpt:

 

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commented 2016-11-04 23:42:23 -0400
LIZA ROSIE;
I know, I was merely observing how permeated our culture is by the PC virus these days and how vulnerable people are to the fear of non-compliance with its dictates, which causes even the conservative minded of us to police their own speech…hence, ‘ah, the modern age’…
commented 2016-11-04 19:12:00 -0400
Yeah. Well Dan, I didn’t want to be called out for saying all people who are not heterosexual live under rocks. I did mean to say that speech and thought Nazi’s do all live under rocks and therefore would have to crawl out from underneath them to debate Peterson.
commented 2016-11-04 13:51:33 -0400
LIZA ROSIE commented 22 hours ago
“….and by that I mean the speech and thought nazi’s not transgender people per se. Although many but by no means all are transgender.”

Interesting you felt the need to qualify that…ah, the modern age.
commented 2016-11-03 20:41:14 -0400
The problem with refusal to comply is that you get found guilty in absentia…not that that really matters, but Ezra’s approach worked better.

If you then refuse to comply with the findings of the HRC you are “held in contempt of court” one of the only measures that trumps habeus corpus…you can be held in custody indefinately until you comply.

Show up…turn the proceedings into a farce dance …the way Ezra did….get public oppinion and support on your side…and get the matter moved into a real court….preferably in another jurisdiction.
commented 2016-11-03 15:55:20 -0400
….and by that I mean the speech and thought nazi’s not transgender people per se. Although many but by no means all are transgender.
commented 2016-11-03 13:40:23 -0400
Yes the debate will be good. I hope some of these people will crawl out from under their rocks to debate with Jordan Peterson. People need to hear and see what they are attempting.
commented 2016-11-03 13:15:36 -0400
LIZA ROSIE commented 2 hours ago
“If you didn’t get as far as the prof of law from the university of Ottawa, I encourage you Dan and anyone else to give the tvo piece another try. It’s the dismissive attitude that the criminalization of speech is an over blown concern, that I find the most disturbing…”

Thanks for the heads-up Liza.
I did get through the Paikin video…eventually – that gender-studies freakazoid gave me the willies every time he started flappin’ his jaws – the whole thing was very scary!
Looking on the bright side, it’s reassuring to know there are men of substance, courage and integrity willing to stand up and speak truth to the power of the socialists and Globalists – and in no uncertain terms! This gentleman, Professor Jordan Peterson certainly needs our support.
Can’t wait for the debate at the U of T! I hope THEREBEL covers it, maybe even moderate it?

http://tvo.org/video/programs/the-agenda-with-steve-paikin/genders-rights-and-freedom-of-speech
commented 2016-11-03 11:04:51 -0400
If you didn’t get as far as the prof of law from the university of Ottawa, I encourage you Dan and anyone else to give the tvo piece another try. It’s the dismissive attitude that the criminalization of speech is an over blown concern, that I find the most disturbing.
Law prof. and the older woman trans writer for Walrus mag. are trying to tell us that this is much ta do about nothing. As I have already expressed the gender studies lecturer is a mad Marxist with a nasty chip on his shoulder who is out to search and destroy, and should not have any position of authority or mentorship in a school influencing young minds. His passive aggressive victimhood schtick should get his sorry ass fired in my opinion.
Listen to the last few minutes as well if you need to skip through it.
I listened to it twice from start to finish. I just wanted to be sure of what I was hearing. This is no small matter.
commented 2016-11-03 03:17:23 -0400
REBELATION REBELATION;
I couldn’t watch much of that Steve Paikin thing, I couldn’t get past the two freaks in the studio who wanted to string the professor up! Sickos!
When you see this sickness up close and personal like that – from representatives and spokespersons for the mentally disordered – and how accepting everyone else is of this disorder (gender dysphoria), it makes one realize how completely messed up this old world is…I’m stayin’ in the boonies.

http://tvo.org/video/programs/the-agenda-with-steve-paikin/genders-rights-and-freedom-of-speech
commented 2016-11-02 20:07:13 -0400
I watched the link Rebelation and I found it really disturbing. The lawyer and the writer were either really naive in making light of the significance of bill c16 or really evil people.
The gender studies guy was just evil in my opinion, and he is out to cause some trouble for people. I find it unbelievable that there are people like him in our Universities, brain washing our kids and enabling this false sense of entitlement. I know some public money goes to Universities and if this is the sort of swamp water they are dishing up I object. His website is called ‘Transitioning Justice’, catchy name.
As for Theryn Meyer, I think she(and I call her she because she looks like a she) is a perfectly reasonable human being. She is trans but doesn’t expect the world to stand on its head for her. I don’t care what anybody wants to identify as. However I do object to making it illegal to refuse to use certain words. Its nonsense and dangerous.

Looking forward to that debate.
commented 2016-11-02 18:07:40 -0400
I agree with Jordan’s intention to ignore the HRT, as being illegitimate. I’d do the same. I WILL do the same when my turn comes!
commented 2016-11-02 18:04:39 -0400
For those that didn’t catch my post yesterday, here’s the TVO episode he mentioned. Watch Prof Matte (bald guy talks with a gay lisp). He has a serious inferiority complex. When you rely on how others address you to determine your worth – you have a serious inferiority complex. And his desire to “go after” folks like Jordan that won’t comply demonstrates this!! Could you imagine, if at work, someone typically referred to you as say, “Davey”, instead of your preferred “David”, that you’d want that person hauled in front of a Tribunal? You might be annoyed, but would you really want to do that? Only someone with serious issues would want to do something like that.

http://tvo.org/video/programs/the-agenda-with-steve-paikin/genders-rights-and-freedom-of-speech
commented 2016-11-02 17:37:38 -0400
About fifty years ago I read a short story, sci-fi, about how in the 2020s the norm would be gay and straights were living in the shadows, hiding from mainstream society.

I guess it wasn’t so much sic-fi but a prediction of times to come.
commented 2016-11-02 16:23:52 -0400
I have a plan….the way to twist this into a legal pretzel is to get someone who has nothing to loose because he is facing a conviction under these edicts. When he is found guilty, in the pre-sentence assessment period get him to say that he now self identifies as a woman and ask for assistance from the Elizabeth Fry Society so that he can get a pussy pass. If the judge does not take it seriously file a complaint with the HRC.

While we are at it let’s find an inmate who has nothing to loose and get him to self identify as a woman and demand to be transfered to a women’s prison….a dangerous sex offender would be ideal but most of them are in federal custody.
commented 2016-11-02 16:09:19 -0400
@eileen McRae……..Just as long as the SJWs and the Ontario HRC realize that there is going to be trouble if they don’t say “YES DADDY” when they address me it’s all fine………..:-)

Lauren has the right idea….their’s is an absurd arguement so the thing to do is reductio ad absurdum.
commented 2016-11-02 14:20:51 -0400
As a member of the animal kingdom, I sometimes wonder if our co-members have such a difficult time identifying as male or female! Do gender identity issues exist within the other subgroups? The survival of the animal kingdom is threatened when we cannot call a gander a gander and a goose a goose; when we cannot call a cow a cow and a bull a bull; when we cannot call a ram a ram and an ewe an ewe; when we cannot call a drake a drake and a duck a duck; when we cannot call a jack a jack and a jenny a jenny; when we cannot call a boar a boar and a sow a sow; when we cannot call a lion a lion and a lioness a lioness; when we cannot call a rooster a rooster and a hen a hen; when we cannot call a buck a buck and a doe a doe; when we cannot call a stallion a stallion and a mare a mare; when we cannot call a dog a dog and a bitch a bitch; when we cannot call a cob a cob and a pen a pen; when we cannot call a tiger a tiger and a tigress a tigress; when we cannot call a tom a tom and a queen a queen; and, when we cannot call a male a male and a female a female! Oh, my goodness, poor Mother Goose! Whatever will happen to her?
commented 2016-11-02 11:28:40 -0400
And in the meantime, Patsy Brown, leader of Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition, can be counted upon to raise the same degree of outrage over the HRC’s stifling of free speech as he has against the erosion of property rights and the nonsense of climate change: SFA.
commented 2016-11-02 11:03:46 -0400
Its getting bad in this country. The HRC has no business existing. Its a redundant kangaroo court which encourages nutcases to come out of the woodwork, (Witness lecturer of transgender studies at University of T.O. in link first provided by Rebelation in Ezra’s thread)
http://tvo.org/video/programs/the-agenda-with-steve-paikin/genders-rights-and-freedom-of-speech
I admire Peterson’s resolve in absolutely not playing their game. His refusal to defend himself if charged is his refusal to recognize the HRC as a legitimate court. He won’t pay the fine, won’t take an ‘attitude’ class, and will go to jail if necessary. I think its the right course of action. The HRC is a dangerous entity in Canada and its powers, if left intact can only grow. I am grateful that this is being highlighted through these chains of events. Time for some push back before the powers of the state become totally unmanageable.
commented 2016-11-02 09:59:01 -0400
Two genders…penis or not. It’s not that hard to figure people.
commented 2016-11-02 09:24:49 -0400
The whole gender identity through pro-nouns can be simplified to three pronouns categories. She and Her, for those who identify as female. He and Him, for those identifying as male. Finally, It and Thing, for those identifying as other.

A simple system that should satisfy the SJW’s because they have a non-gender classification.
commented 2016-11-02 09:13:30 -0400
God made male and female only! All HRC’s are for enforcing the UN’s agenda on our democratic societies, by punishing those who don’t agree with their plans to destroy our way of life, that are based on our Christian beliefs.
commented 2016-11-02 08:49:27 -0400
Ezra, You have the video flagged as private on YOUTUBE