September 08, 2015

FLASHBACK: Should Canada admit 25,000 Syrian refugees?

Emily PrattRebel Correspondent
 

(SEPTEMBER 8 UPDATE: On March 31, The Rebel asked Torontonians about Canada's response to the Syrian refugee situation. This video is relevant again, so we're reposting it.)




Federal Liberal leader Justin Trudeau is pledging to sponsor 25,000 Syrian refugees if he becomes Prime Minister.

I hit the streets to see whether or not you think Canada has an obligation to resettle that number of refugees.

Tell us what you think in the comments!


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commented 2015-09-09 12:38:58 -0400
3/4 of American conservatives I talk to now are stating the truth: That treasonous Western politicians started this entire thing by trying to overthrow Assad, by installing Sharia in Libya and Egypt. 3/4 of Americans are now saying they want Russia to take out our “Syrian rebels”. 3/4 of Americans are saying no to “refugees”.

In the comment forums and over the phone, the truth is now being boldly stated. Look at the comment section of this link here if you require proof:
http://news.yahoo.com/huge-russian-military-planes-land-syria-221502659.html

All the political parties and media have lied to us for five years and the jig is up, that includes the “bleeding hearts” who constantly went off about “the brutal Assad” or “the poor refugees”. Our taxes fund terrorists for geopolitical energy disputes. Our politicians flood us with terrorists to buy votes and take away our Liberty.

You empire-builders LOSE. You’ve got egg all over your face as you try to guilt us about your Sunni “refugees”. Game Over.
commented 2015-09-09 12:23:08 -0400
repost from leftwingmediabias
To those who think that these people will benefit Canada because “they will work hard and pay taxes” here is an example of what will happen if we open our doors to these “refugees”

Sweden’s 16.5% foreign born muslim population use 66.4% of the nation’s government financial assistance. The cost of housing these foreign born is escalating out of control.

Netherlands: 50-70% of former Muslim ‘asylum seekers’ live permanently on welfare. Of the former asylum seekers with a Syrian, Iraqi or Eritrean nationality more than half collect government assistance.

Australia: Muslim jobless rates twice the national average.

80 % of the 50 million Muslims in the west are on welfare.They contribute nothing, they high crime rates, they have the highest rate of welfare fraud and financial crimes.
Muslims arrive as refugees or illegals and deplete the wealth from the west to such an extent that it’s a threat to the security and financial stability in the west. The welfare paid in EU is adopted to the income levels of workers and the cost of living in the EU. Welfare was never intended as foreign aid to enable mass immigration to Europe, but welfare is the magnet which pulls in millions of muslim immigrants to Europe.
commented 2015-09-09 11:40:43 -0400
made typo should be @ Francis, funny how it came up with a typo
commented 2015-09-09 11:36:34 -0400
@francis
“It is certainly not exclusive to Americans in this day and age. “ Point taken.

However, in that context, we would need to include the terminology of “neoliberals” to the Canadian populace as well then.
Neoliberalism: “Neo-liberalism" is a set of economic policies that have become widespread during the last 25 years or so.
Following that line of thought …
Among neo-liberal traits:
Privatization: Sell state-owned enterprises, goods and services to private investors. This includes banks, key industries, railroads, toll highways, electricity, schools, hospitals and even fresh water. Although usually done in the name of greater efficiency:
Ontario: Wynne selling off Hydro One for example

Cutting Public Expenditure for Social Services (like education and health care):
Ontario: Wynne and McGuinty cutbacks to OHIP for example
McGuinty delisting of OHIP Covered Necessary Health Services – Where after Dalton McGuinty promised not to decrease any health services covered by OHIP, and also not to raise taxes, he did both on the same day by implementing the Ontario Health Premium and delisting coverage of Optometry (Eye), Chiropractic and Physiotherapy Services for Ontarians.

“ A cursory look at Ontario’s fiscal position suggests the Liberals have left a burden that, in the future, will limit the province’s ability to help those in the greatest need. What this means to average people: Ontario can no longer help. It can’t help the needy with augmented programs. It can’t help the sick by paying for new drugs. At about $8,400 per person, program spending is already lowest among provinces … http://www.macleans.ca/politics/dollars-and-sense-in-the-mcguinty-era-or-lack-thereof/

The lines traditionally known as “left, right, center” are terribly blurred if you start adding new terminology such as “neo” into the mix in my opinion, it simply muddies the waters more so than it already is.
commented 2015-09-09 10:54:14 -0400
The Donald is shooting himself in the foot on a few issues. He’s got awesome hutzpa, and business sense, but is missing a few important parts of the formula required for the president of the U.S.
commented 2015-09-09 09:35:20 -0400
And what do you know, Donald Trump is saying the USA must take “refugees”, sound familiar? Big surprise, the Clinton donor and “assault weapon ban” supporter is jolly for jihad.
commented 2015-09-09 09:29:55 -0400
@ Hyacinth

Thanks for the education. You said:

“Neocons support attacking and even overthrowing foreign governments, despite how that often results in more persecution of Christians. Some neocons (like Dick Cheney) have profited immensely from the military-industrial complex. "

I would suggest this is not merely an American phenomena as elements of this movement exist across the west and yes… even on this board. Canadians, Israelis, Brits, Germans etc – all populate this political spectrum. It is indeed and American invention (going back further – maybe a Roman one??? Certainly a case could be made even if the term did not exist…) It is certainly not exclusive to Americans in this day and age.
commented 2015-09-09 09:05:20 -0400
“favors big government, interventionalism, and a hostility to religion in politics and government.”… Sounds like Red Tories to me. Maybe the terminology is not precise enough for you, but the fact is these “Conservatives” leave much to be desired.
commented 2015-09-09 07:15:52 -0400
I’m getting rather tired of people that banter about words that they really don’t grasp the meaning of, for example: “I know I’ll get flamed for saying it by the neocons here but its true.”

Canadians are not “neocons”

Neoconservatism (commonly shortened to neocon) is a political movement born in the United States during the 1960s. Many of its adherents became politically famous during the Republican presidential administrations of the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and 2000s. A neoconservative is someone presented as a conservative but who actually favors big government, interventionalism, and a hostility to religion in politics and government. The word means “newly conservative,” and thus formerly liberal. A neocon is a RINO Backer, and like RINOs does not accept most of the important principles in the Republican Party platform. Neocons do not participate in the March for Life, stand up for traditional marriage, or advocate other conservative social values. Neocons support attacking and even overthrowing foreign governments, despite how that often results in more persecution of Christians. Some neocons (like Dick Cheney) have profited immensely from the military-industrial complex.

Canadian progressive conservatives (PC) are a mix social conservatives, fiscal conservatives and libertarians. (Red Toryism, Social Conservatism, Libertarianism: The Three Wings of the Conservative Coalition)
commented 2015-09-09 07:03:21 -0400
These people do not want a secular government, although I do find their reactions a bit comical when faced with the prospect of having to have their children learn about LGBTQ in school. I imagine that they will get that changed, but guess what, you’re in Canada now. And co-ed gyms? Absolutely not! The point I’m making is that we are very different peoples, so there can be only be reason why they want to live in Western countries: economic advantage. The fact that their women must wear the hijab, even though it is not in the Quran that they do so, only proves to me that they want to be distinct from the societies that they immigrate to, they do not want to integrate. We’ll end up with countries within a country, no-go zones, and eventual changes to our way of life; a way of life, I might add, that has been many times more successful then theirs.
commented 2015-09-09 00:27:00 -0400
I can only hope Canada follows Denmarks examples. How dare the Main Stream Media compare the Asian Refugees of the 70’s to these Welfare Bums. In most cases the Asians have great work ethics and become successful while these Middle East People will create Syrian Slums in Toronto, paid for by the Canadian Taxpayer. Bob from BC
commented 2015-09-08 23:57:35 -0400
No we shouldn’t import 30000 Syrian refugees into Canada. We have so many homeless people that should be taken care of first, instead of gibing out welfare and apartments and jobs to refugees
commented 2015-09-08 23:29:07 -0400
Just because Sweden has Stockholm syndrome doesn’t mean should. Its looking more and more like the care-free Europians are again gonna be begging Canada to save them from another authoritarian movement.

This “refugee crisis” and “Syrian civil war” has got 2008 bailout scam written all over it. Just another rigged globalist carnival game we’re being forced to play.

Do not fall for it. The national anthem does not say, “True North and afraid to look bad in the media”. I don’t care what the left wants to change the words to, it’s not the song I grew up singing.
commented 2015-09-08 23:22:36 -0400
Richard wrote:

“That was sorta the strategy that led to this whole problem now wasn’t it? No more giving guns to Muslims, no more giving money to Muslims, no more diplomacy with Muslims. I agree with Paul, and it’s something Brian Lilley said a lot on Sun News, time to kick the UN the hell out of this country and withdraw from their organization. "

It’s weird that he calls for getting us out of the UN (I would agree – and NATO too) but calls for expanding our military role in the ME.

There is a lot of good stuff published on the Rebel (and some silly stuff on slow news days…. like pieces on bicycles) but it often comes across as inconsistent and at times kind of cartoonish. Sun News was like that. It comes across as a mouth piece for the Conservative Party at times as well – which is too bad because what Canada truly needs is a news outlet that is dedicated to actual journalism. The Rebel need not be the answer to the Communist Broadcasting Corp – it only needs to serve the purpose of exposing the truth about the world around us. I know I’ll get flamed for saying it by the neocons here but its true. This web site has a lot of potential but at times it JUST STALLS and gets bogged down in the mud of partisan politics. Its a shame really….
commented 2015-09-08 23:08:38 -0400
100% agree with Pete, Nickie, Ron and Warren. Hopefully you’re reading this parliament, we’re wise to what’s going on here, the jig is up.

This is a trojan horse Sunni terrorist invasion, would not be surprised if it was orchestrated by George Soros or David Rockefeller.
commented 2015-09-08 22:56:59 -0400
ALL refugees and immigrates who come to Canada should be drafted into a special force given training and guns and sent back to regain their lands.”

That was sorta the strategy that led to this whole problem now wasn’t it? No more giving guns to Muslims, no more giving money to Muslims, no more diplomacy with Muslims. I agree with Paul, and it’s something Brian Lilley said a lot on Sun News, time to kick the UN the hell out of this country and withdraw from their organization.

We can’t afford to take sides in these bullshit energy wars anymore, arming one group against the other… We can’t afford the “refugee” fallout anymore, especially when the “refugees” are the same sect (Sunni) as ISIS.

It was painful to watch parliament drop the ball and be associated with these barbarians the first time… Do not give them anymore guns… Do not bring a single one to Canada, particularly not when their Sunni buddies will not take them (Saudi Arabia, UAE, Turkey, Jordan, etc).
commented 2015-09-08 22:39:12 -0400
Excellent point Ron Voss, the spread of Islam is not only promoted through violence, but using our own democracy and compassion against us. Hence why Muslim nations LOVE seeing this influx of muslim refugees into Europe and potentially North America. Of course the protests (and violent attacks) from Muslim will immediately follow their arrival to grind down western culture and values, while being supported by and depleting the host nations social system, which they have never contributed to.
So long Europe, I wish I had traveled there more before you imploded.
commented 2015-09-08 22:33:24 -0400
If they are “refugees”, why do they all have cellphones?
What a bunch of numbskulls the left is. The islamic “trojan horse” is upon us.
commented 2015-09-08 22:20:48 -0400
For all those bleeding hearts out there, can you say “hijra” (also spelled hijrah)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igfjA0Xe8x4&channel=EmmaSaying
Robert Spencer, who knows a thing or two about the ideology of Islam, explains hijrah, or jihad by emigration (which, as MIKE MCKENNA, points out below is promoted by the left) in this post: The Hijrah Into Europe “Refugees” colonize a continent:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/260019/hijrah-europe-robert-spencer
commented 2015-09-08 21:53:23 -0400
We should accept them all..if they can walk here. Come to think of it, I’m pretty sure we have a few hundred thousand of them to send marching back…they can meet in the middle forthwith.
commented 2015-09-08 21:38:47 -0400
The left wants to drastically increase the number of refugees to Canada from the most violent, volatile & anti-west region on the planet (not just limited to ISIS) while at the same time discouraging police and intelligence a greater ability to detect and monitor persons of interest. Such a naive outlook that will cost our country dearly.
Im all for helping refugees that pose no threat to us, let in as many Christians and Yazidis as you want, I would take 100,000.
commented 2015-09-08 21:22:14 -0400
The persecuted non Muslim’s? Sure. As for the Muslim refugee’s? We should accept one for every one the nations of Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar give asylum to, Which so far is zero.
commented 2015-09-08 19:43:02 -0400
Joan Goegan said: “No! No! No! Absolutely NOT! We will live to regret it.” Therein lies the problem. We would most likely NOT live to regret it!
commented 2015-09-08 19:40:51 -0400
Let’s see. How can I make this diplomatic and succinct? Too late, no other way to say this! No, No and No. No more Muslims!
commented 2015-09-08 19:02:48 -0400
ALL refugees and immigrates who come to Canada should be drafted into a special force given training and guns and sent back to regain their lands.
commented 2015-09-08 18:47:15 -0400
I don’t get it. If something were to happen here (war, famine, pestilence, etc.) I’d hope that we could conquer it so that my family and I wouldn’t have to leave my home country. Isn’t that they way all these people in Syria and surrounding areas would/should feel too? Wouldn’t they rather stay in their home countries to live safe, peaceful lives? So the big question is, where’s the UN in all of this? What is the UN doing with the hundreds of millions (billions?) they get annually from countries like Canada and the U.S. to prevent terrorist groups from destroying peoples’ homelands? A couple of weeks ago I posted the question asking how many Syrian refugees Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, U.A.E. et al were taking. One individual replied to me on TheRebel and attached a link to a UN site regarding refugees but I still couldn’t see in this report how many people they were exactly taking. There was a lot of bafflegab (B.S.??) about refugees but nowhere to be seen in this report were the numbers? Curious. Perhaps it’s time Canada said; “No more!” to this fraudulent organization lead by third-world despots and stops sending them my hard-earned money so that they can abscond with the money and stash it safely away in Swiss and Caribbean banks.
I can just see it now; PET2 and Tommie Commie shrieking about taking more refugees and to hell with the process of vetting them (so that we don’t accept criminals (or is that the Lieberals and No Democracy Party’s intent?) and then a few months down the road they’ll be screaming;“Mr. Speaker, how could Mr. Harper allow criminals and terrorists into the country without making sure who they were first?” One thing I’ve learned about liberals and socialists…they’re frauds…(and oh yes, there according to them there is no such thing as terrorists and criminals except of course those people in Canada with some common sense). Heaven help us all!