October 14, 2016

Radical Islam’s hatred of the West: Correcting the regressive left’s “masochistic lies”

Christopher WilsonRebel Commentator

Jihadists. Why do they hate the west and why do they want to kill us? Public intellectuals like Noam Chomsky and Glenn Greenwald point to U.S. and NATO foreign intervention in the Muslim world as the inspiration behind modern Islamic terrorism, certainly since 9/11.

Canada has regressive leftists of our own as we saw last year when the Harper government sent our CF-18’s to join the coalition effort in bombing ISIS and Liberal MP Judy Sgro told the Hill Times in January that:

“You’ve got the Prime Minister of Canada standing in the House and saying ‘we want you to kill them.’ I think he’s dragging us more and more into fights that we don’t need to be in,” and “There’s only one reason, because he wants to instil fear in Canadians….It’s all about building up and getting people frightened and fearful. ISIL, ISIL, ISIL, ISIL is coming here. If they’re coming here it’s because he put us in that position,”

Judy Sgro believes the reason ISIS is coming to Canada is because of Stephen Harper’s decision to bomb them?

Watch as I explain why that logic doesn’t add up.

Islamic fundamentalism was not created by American democracy nor American foreign policy, it is not brought upon Canadians because Stephen Harper sent our fighter jets to join our allies in bombing ISIS, nor was it the creation of Israel or our support for the only democracy in the middle east.

No, to say so is a masochistic lie and it excuses the real criminals and it blames us for the attacks we receive.

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commented 2016-10-16 21:49:16 -0400
Keep repeating the same thing Anonymous, if it makes you feel better. Cowards are pushed around by bullies, no exceptions. You are not keeping up or you would be noticing what Iran and Russia are up to these days.
commented 2016-10-16 20:26:03 -0400
Invading the middle east only gives the terrorists more reason to blow up the invading countries.

Japan is smart. They do not meddle in other countries, and do not take in immigrants. Because of

there is no Islamic terrorism in Japan.

Think back to the video of the Parliament building shooter. HE specifically referenced Canada’s involvement in the war in the middle east. So yes, sticking our nose in the middle east is asking for us to get blown up.
commented 2016-10-16 18:07:03 -0400
Avoid Harry Holtz, friend. His site is a virus.
commented 2016-10-16 16:59:39 -0400
Jill and John. Did you see the Menzoid’s report from the U of T asking questions about the Syrian Refugees. The hair on the back of my neck stood up in fear. That kind of thing I find extremely scary, and these people have the right to vote. As well, they’re attending one of our prestigious schools and are totally unaware about the issue, but are willing to sign a petition. Very scary.
commented 2016-10-16 12:28:36 -0400
commented 2016-10-16 11:26:46 -0400
Anonymous you are naive. Why would they go after any of those small countries? They are after the big players, it has nothing to do with waving a red cape infront of the bull….but you keep on saying it. If we kissed their asses like Obama is kissing Iran’s they will still slit our throats. Keep an eye open to watch that coming down the turnpike as we speak.
Grow up. So sick of hearing that infantile excuse.
commented 2016-10-16 09:54:32 -0400
No one in the Islam World listens to a Canadian Prime Minister-particularly a pussy like Trudeau. There’s no way the hatred that Islam radicals have for the west goes away and although the west likely made it worse by invading Iraq, the reality is, its been there well before that event and as Canadians, we are where we are.
We are seeing minor terrorist activities in Toronto every day with the vast majority are not reported by the press. Multiple knifings, robberies, muggings et all happen every single day .
My wife and I saw one bus commandeering in which 17 passengers were held hostage by a Syrian refugee from 11am to 7pm and there wasn’t a dickie boo mentioned in any of the msm-not a surprise.
Instead we are told to love them and I suspect when we see a significant terrorist event, we will be told the same thing.
commented 2016-10-16 03:51:33 -0400
There is some truth in the argument that if we stayed out of the middle east, then the terrorists would not attack us. When was the last time Muslim terrorist went after infidel countries that minded their own business? Terrorists do not blow up Mexico, Iceland, New Zealand, or Japan. Many times, terrorists will actually say that they will continue to make attacks, as long as the enemy country continues to meddle in the middle east.
commented 2016-10-16 03:19:35 -0400
John S Lennon did not end the war , you are a true moron, Iran is not innocent , they are fighting a version of Islam they hate , how does that make them benevolent? Lennon was a pathetic hypocrite. Try looking at him objectively.
commented 2016-10-16 01:56:45 -0400
If it wasn’t for Lennon the Vietnam war would have continued into the 1980’s, a war pitting ideologies and isn’t that just a stupid reason to have war?!
commented 2016-10-16 01:55:48 -0400
Lennon was an inspirational figure and should be heralded as a saint!
commented 2016-10-16 01:49:47 -0400
So you want the West to be basically in a state of never-ending war and you will happily support other people’s children to go to war while clammouring for probably a draft and other means to fight Muslims and do your best to have conversion and be priestly to ensure that this gets done? That sounds like ultra-zealotry to the point where you want death of 1.6 billion people on this planet. That sounds like genocidal extermination to the point of what Genghis Khan did in the 14th century to Chinese, Persians, Hungarians, and others. Yet you overlook Christian atrocities to Aztecs, Mayans, Incas, native Americans, Africans, East Asians and many throughout history. Why do you overlook Christian atrocities? This is about pitting one religion against another and the only reason why warmongers such as yourself want to have war with other nations but promote Muslims like Kurds is because they will benefit Israel. That is the only reason. It is lifting an olive branch to people to fulfill the Greater Israel project and be a good goyim and be fooled again.

People deserve to know the truth about warmongers and condemn them and make them feel like the scum that they are because they want never-ending war and other people to pay for it and other people’s children to fight and never give them health care or support. That is the honest truth and I do not want nations to get into these quagmires. I care about other people unlike you that only want people to be pawns in the great game of world domination. Stop letting yourself be used by the war class and interventionists because they fight for nations outside of Canada and are globalists by another form.
commented 2016-10-16 01:44:26 -0400
“He is a good man in the mold of John Lennon who stood up against Vietnam and other wars. " Well doesn’t that just say it all. Pathetic that you are bringing a Beatle into it as a comparison to Chomsky? You are a raving idiot troll.
commented 2016-10-16 01:30:04 -0400
Noam Chomsky speaks against the war economy and the ability of the US to wage war against anyone that it sees fit. He is a good man in the mold of John Lennon who stood up against Vietnam and other wars.

We need more people like that to challenge the military and challenge authority because we have not had a serious anti-war person since the 1970’s. It is time for more people to be against the military industrial complex.

These are not conspiracy theories but trying to find solutions that do not involve war.

War used to be before 9/11 a rare occurrence but now it seems like the only occurrence and only choice.

And under whose grounds would a tough guy like you propose killing peaceful people. That sounds like pure evil, and it is no wonder why the Conservatives were kicked out of office. Their grassroots is even more crazy and loony because they are conspiratorial people that think everyone is socialist and many of them want executions of those they disagree with. That is massively totalitarian and a mindset which is dangerous. See how stupid you sound Paul Maurice if that is your real name!!
commented 2016-10-16 01:26:12 -0400
Yet fighting ISIS by the US and the West means giving ISIS time to regroup and get organized again.

See how it works Yoshii. Only the Russians, Syrians and Iranians with the Lebanese and Kurds are truly fighting ISIS.

Trudeau just like Harper had no plans but to follow the United States.

People have to ask themselves why nothing ever changes and why Trudeau’s policies are very similar to Harper’s and that is because our politics is far too close. Yet, Rebel and the mainstream media would have you believe we have choices in this country. That is a laugh.
commented 2016-10-15 18:54:28 -0400
Yes, Yoshii Ezaki, this is typical of the logic of Justin Trudeau….and probably of all the moronic Canadians who support him (and they are legion!). We live in a country that (like the rest of the once civilized world…except for a few champions who stand strong and true and forthright) that is declining into moral and intellectual bankruptcy.
The morally egregious and intellectually challenged Justin Trudeau is just the “man” to lead us into this quagmire of moronic and immoral excrement.
commented 2016-10-15 17:49:30 -0400
We have a PM who says when you kill your enemy they win.
commented 2016-10-15 17:27:29 -0400
Noam Chomsky is a total and odious supporter of mendacious anti-Western Civilization propaganda.
Noam Chomsky is one of the most disgusting and evil men on the face of the earth….along with George Soros. Noam Chomsky should be arrested and executed by the American government for high treason.
commented 2016-10-15 16:34:55 -0400
Andrew Mirlach, you’ve got it! This is exactly what it is. ISIS is just a new name for the same shit!
commented 2016-10-15 13:43:01 -0400
When I copied this post some time ago, I neglected to take note of the original poster, my apologies. It is indeed worth the read. I encourage John Siciliano and followers of (if any) to consider it’s point of view.

“This is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have seen. References to past history are accurate and clear. It is not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and respected psychiatrist. A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.”

‘Very few people were true Nazis,’ he said, ‘but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, like the majority, I just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control. The end of the world as we knew it had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories’.

We are told again and again by ‘experts’ and ‘talking heads’ that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam. The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the ‘silent majority,’ is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China’s huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet. And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were ‘peace loving’?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don’t speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world, as they know it, will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late. As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts – the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious is complicit in the passiveness that allows the problems to expand. So extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on! Let us hope that thousands, world-wide, read this and think about it, and send it on – before it’s too late.

Now, Islamic prayers have been introduced in Toronto and other public schools in Ontario, and yes, in Ottawa too while the Lord’s Prayer was removed. The Islamic way may be peaceful for the time being in our country until the fanatics move in.

And we are silent…….
commented 2016-10-15 12:23:26 -0400
Exactly right Christopher Wilson. Islam and it’s muslims have been attacking and killing non muslims since the beginning of their existence. I don’t understand why the world is putting up with this still to this day. They have a violent past, don’t get along with anyone, and don’t even get along with themselves as evidenced in the middle east. It’s all there in history for everyone to see, so muslims can’t blame their barbarity on their victims. That’s the mentality and reasoning of a dangerous psychotic killer, a pedophile, a wife/child abuser, and practically any criminal who’s sitting in prison right now. Islam needs to be banned and listed world wide as the number 1 dangerous cult which is a threat to civilization governmentally and is armed and extremely dangerous.
commented 2016-10-15 11:12:32 -0400
Thank you KARAN SINGH for an informative and thoughtful post. Much of what you have posted since I have joined Rebel has been inspired reading for me. Keep em coming.

I see JOHN S. wasted some more air time with his red tory or small c conservative bullshit that he spews so often.(or whatever term he is using to describe his angle) It’s obvious the leftist plague that our universities brainwash the students with really took hold with poor John. How will we ever de-program these poor infected souls. Our education systems are a mess.

Anyway John,. It looks like DREW has handled things nicely with his rebuttals to you. It might just be time to hook up with the LPC, seems to be more up your ally.

LIZA ROSIE…. another Rebel supporter that I would love to have a coffee and chin wag with. You and Deb Graupner are on my bucket list of people to meet. Looking forward to Nov 5th at the Alberta legislature. Maybe we can get 50,000 people out to show the dippers that WE MEAN BUSINESS.

commented 2016-10-15 02:47:24 -0400
People like John wonder why their parties do not get votes, oh it must be a conspiracy LMAO!
commented 2016-10-15 02:46:25 -0400
John S the middle east turned into a shithole thanks to Islam and sorry the Barbary pirates were quite real and it was Muslims who enabled the slave trade and still do. You are so full of it , your eyes are brown. You go be an apologist coward all you want. See what it gets you. Now go make excuses when they intervene in Israel’s business like a good hypocrite.
commented 2016-10-15 02:43:12 -0400
John S when had the rebel ever said that ISIS was not funded by Saudi Arabia or getting aid from Obama you halfwit? More of your BS. You assume too much and lie while claiming others are doing it.
commented 2016-10-15 02:41:34 -0400
John S the crusades were an answer to Muslim violence and terror and subjugation you halfwit. Try learning some history, and you defend the Muslim intervention and conquest of other countries while crying when we do anything outside of ours. Afghanistan was invaded by Muslims extremists you moron and Muslims are committing genocide. And why are they attacking Kurds and Yazidis , who the hell did they invade? You are pathetic.
commented 2016-10-15 01:45:26 -0400
The only peaceful and trustworthy Muslim is an EX Muslim. The hatred of and superiority over all non Islamic people started the day the Koran was written. These attacks have been happening since the beginning of time, so to say the west is responsible is ridiculous. Islam is more of a theocracy than a religion and has never attempted to modernize as has Christianity, and just about any other religion out there. Followers of Islam still operate on the same barbaric system laid out in the Koran that they based their lives on in the 7th century. All Muslims still operate under the same principals and laws today. If they don’t follow the laws of Islam they are no longer a danger to the west, because they are no longer considered Muslim. To be a good Muslim is to subjugate all non believers. If you do not believe, you are an infidel and a kafir, and ‘najis’ (filthy or polluted). The Koran says it, not me. I will never accept Islam. I will be happy to accept those who openly denounce Islam. Why does that rarely happen? Because to denounce Islam could get an EX Muslim killed. That is the ‘religion’ John S. makes excuses for. That is why there is no such thing as a ‘peaceful’ Muslim.

John S. blames Islam on the west – a pathetic and dangerous point of view.

Karan Singh, as always, a very worthwhile post.
commented 2016-10-15 01:35:33 -0400
Swine is there kryptonite and there is no defense against it… Apply swine and apply it liberally and apply it often for a more western mainstream Canada.