May 13, 2016

Ray Heard on Trudeau’s reforms: “A dictatorial way of doing things; it’s pretend democracy”

Brian LilleyRebel Co-Founder
 

Liberals recently announced the first step in changing how Canadians vote. To begin moving away from our first-past-the-post system towards some kind of proportional representation, they gave themselves six out of ten seats on the committee they’ve struck, even though Liberals only received 39% of the vote. 

When asked to explain this apparent contradiction, Democratic Institutions Minister Maryam Monsef explained that the committee represents the composition of seats each party holds in the house, which is of course based on that antiquated system they claim doesn’t represent people any more.

Right off the bat, we have a problem that should arouse the curiosity of the media on the question of the motivations of this Liberal government but we haven’t really seen much of that.

I sat down with long-time Liberal strategist and political commentator Ray Heard to get his take on why Justin seems so intent on making this change without a referendum and to get his thoughts on what might come of this committee.

Watch the interview to see why Ray doesn’t have a lot of confidence that Canadians will get all the information they need and remember to sign and share our petition at LetUsVote.ca if you share our concerns.

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commented 2016-05-15 04:30:40 -0400
Oh… And watching Dizzy Lizzy May hold forth on the nightly BC news tonight – yes, pipelines, again – gives me the willies about giving her even more airtime under proportional representation…
commented 2016-05-15 04:22:45 -0400
JOHN SICILIANO… Be careful what you wish for in proportional representation… It inevitably leads to unstable coalition governments like Italy as a prime example.. As I posted on the same topic elsewhere:-
If it is indeed “proportional representation”, or some variant, that clueless Maryam Monsef is hanging out there then let us quickly cut to the chase and be reminded what kind of a political morass that tends to produce… Italy over the years is a prime example of the minority party coalition chaos that results from everybody getting their toe in the water… Germany ditto… A more dramatic example is a country like Latvia, with a population of roughly 2 million, having 8 “major parties” and 12 “minor parties” and a whopping 23! “defunct parties” since regaining independence from the Soviet Union in 1991… But I suspect that the Liberals are simply going after a “never ending power” variant that is going to take a genuine REVOLT by Canadians in the long term to oppose… If you live in a Liberal held riding, take every opportunity to give your MP “le doigt moyen”….
commented 2016-05-14 01:07:28 -0400
They are just copying what Obama is doing, by doing something like presidential decree! And that is bad for a democratic world!
commented 2016-05-13 23:58:54 -0400
I agree with Lilley that the parties have too much power. Why won’t the grassroots of each party try to influence their parties? It seems simple enough but to libertarians they favour less legislation when legislation is the only way to correct a system where the overreach of the party machine is the issue.
commented 2016-05-13 23:56:55 -0400
The Westminster system has not worked since the early 70’s. MPs are supposed to vote based on the wishes of their constituents so Heard and Lilley are factually lying to the public because even the Conservative party did the same thing by making all their members vote as a single party without disagreement. That is completely disingenous, but I agree that we need to have a thorough and important debate before any changes are made. I do not view this as an advantage for any party if it is done correctly and with all Canadians being informed without manipulation. I actually welcome a proportional system if it is done right and based on percentages with no cutoff point like some countries. What Canada needs is also the smaller parties to gain an advantage in a new system with hopefully no money in politics and the banning of attack ads. This whole fake outrage by Lilley and Heard does show that they want the system to be the status quo with just three major parties and two or three parties with 1 seat to five seats. I think the system would be more accountable in a system with proportional but it cannot be done solely by one party. It must be done in a fair and reasonable way taking into account the other 20+ parties that are smaller as well.
commented 2016-05-13 22:45:17 -0400
This is one of the more important issues
But could this not back fire on the Liberals if more second votes were for say the Conservatives

Have a great weekend
commented 2016-05-13 21:55:08 -0400
Christ Sake Trudeau wants to start messing with our voting system and our Democracy, let’s not kid ourselves we know what this man who on a certain level loves a Chinese Dictatorship is about? You know dam well what this a fancy ass Elite way to turn our Democracy into a Dictatorship for PM Justnin Islamic Convert Trudeau! Are Canadians going to stand against this Ridiculous scam? Are you going to put up with this tyranny?
commented 2016-05-13 20:20:49 -0400
I have to disagree with Ray on this one. Canadian voters as evidenced by the last election are too stupid to realize what Trudope is up to! And of course the lieberal media will never report the true facts nor question the motives so in love they are with this fraud government!
commented 2016-05-13 18:21:04 -0400
JT will not last, his demise will come soon, due to acute head trauma as a result of a low flying object traveling at high velocity.

The day that this happens will be declared a Public Holiday, so people can go and Piss on his grave.

Rot in Hell JT.
commented 2016-05-13 17:13:54 -0400
A thirty year old Muslim, who hails from the terrorist breeding ground and hell-hole known as Afghanistan (but has also spent some time residing in Iran and Pakistan), who worships Islam, a 7th century death cult operated by savages and is the very antithesis of civilized democracy, has been tasked by the so-called prime minister whose ties to that same death cult are also becoming well known, now has the temerity to declare that civilized western democracy is no longer appropriate for the “changing face of Canada”. What may be the awful truth is that she may be correct. Canada’s face is indeed changing.
commented 2016-05-13 17:10:26 -0400
Hi Mongrel,

I think you meant to say “that Quebec never had”
commented 2016-05-13 17:09:23 -0400
Turdo doesn’t like democracy(it’s inconvenient) he likes Dictatorships(it’s faster).

He will kill democracy in Canada, and just because he is pretty doesn’t mean that he isn’t full of Rage, because he is, and wants to avenge his Father’s losses, and the Harper years, and now wants to change the rules to keep the Liberals in Power FOREVER!

I can only hope that the Canadian people come to see his supporters, the MSM, and his caucus, for what they are, and that is, Panty Throwing Groupies!
commented 2016-05-13 16:57:06 -0400
What makes be sick and angry is the liberals were saying Harper means a police state, but liberals with their war against free speech (to the point of being arrested for having an opinion), are the true tyrants inducing the 1984 police state.
commented 2016-05-13 16:50:07 -0400
It will also be interesting to see if the ‘not withstanding clause’ will be included in the legislation, because I will imagine there will be constitutional challenges from various interest groups like provinces, political parties, aboriginals.

If that clause is part of the legislation then we know Canada has become a banana republic.

Another thought is that Junior will have completed Da-da’s work and the confederation will disintegrate when the regions see no point in Ottawa. Senior was coined the ‘Father of De-confederation’ back in the day for a reason. Then we had 35 years of relatively decent government to put de-confederation on the back burner, but it will be back to the front. Junior has already created more regional distrust in six months than ever existed since Da-da, and imposing this so-called reform will complete the job. By the way for the young’uns out there, senior was also called the greatest Premier of Quebec that Quebec ever had.
commented 2016-05-13 16:23:13 -0400
All that double speak now makes sense, when our fool on the hill said that he most admired the dictatorship of China. I remember when I heard it, I knew that was the plan for Canada all a long. The hatred for Canada runs deep in the Trudeau family! Everything he is doing is to destroy anything Canadian. He is mentally disturbed and an idiot to boot!
commented 2016-05-13 15:43:54 -0400
If the Liberals, with their 39% support, force through a new system that is custom-made to benefit Liberals, what is to stop the next non-Liberal majority government from taking a page from Trudeau’s playbook and reversing the change out of spite? This is why IMO we need a referendum, and also why we need a two-thirds super-majority in both the House and the Senate to change something as fundamental as FPTP. Still waiting for the constitutional experts to offer opinions on this point.
commented 2016-05-13 15:34:26 -0400
I think it’s time I sent Trump another message. He needs to clean his vise and put it in the white house wood shed. When dustbin gets in the corner of the shed put his test tickles in the vise and turn that bar clockwise until your hear uncle, uncle. That should get things back on track.
commented 2016-05-13 15:25:43 -0400
Junior, PM for life?