September 18, 2015

Refugee crisis: Our poll numbers are in!

Rebel Staff
 

90% of Canadians insist that any refugees who come to Canada must be screened for terrorists.

And fully 60% of Canadians don’t believe the mainstream media’s coverage of the migrant crisis has been objective.

Those are just a few of the fascinating results of the poll of 1,505 Canadians that was crowdfunded by viewers of TheRebel.media.

The poll was conducted on Sept. 16 and 17 by Torch, and has a margin of error of 2.5%, nineteen times out of twenty. Scroll down to read the whole thing.

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commented 2015-10-03 15:28:38 -0400
By the time the left finally have their eyes opened, there will be no panic button, for it will already be too late for them!
commented 2015-09-29 11:35:27 -0400
BAN THE BURKA, push for laws to incriminate ISLAMIC advancement. SAFETY FIRST and Islam is a crime against humanity, a cancer.
commented 2015-09-28 17:05:11 -0400
Terry Ruden, PANIC BUTTON? are you serious? Radical Islam is a very real threat. Try some history and look at Europe for some reality. THis is hardly the PANIC BUTTON.
commented 2015-09-28 17:05:10 -0400
Terry Ruden, PANIC BUTTON? are you serious? Radical Islam is a very real threat. Try some history and look at Europe for some reality. THis is hardly the PANIC BUTTON.
commented 2015-09-28 11:04:51 -0400
90% eh…well thats good I guess.

What worries me is that 10% disagreed.?? WTF.? who were these morons or more precisely, who are these SUPPORTERS of Terrorism that would vote NO.? Well I can guess, and odds are they aren’t a bunch of radical Tibetan Dhali Lama supporters now are they.?

When I look at pretty much every picture taken of thee migrants, I scarcely see women and children yet do see quite clearly, young men 18-30 by the boatloads (no pun intended). Being of European descent, I have listened to my family from EU, seen and read aplenty as to the effects of unbridled immigration. It ain’t pretty folks…what I see here now is nothing less than an Invasion – Stealth Jihad in fact.

Those calling for a Japanese style effort in Canada – are correct. And as has been said before and I will reiterate that sentiment, Nowhere on the planet where Islam has gone is there Peace…nowhere.
commented 2015-09-26 10:40:22 -0400
Jay K – challenge is that Harp’s “Core Support” maxes out (according to pundits) at around 31% with swing voters and undecideds tending to go Liberal or slightly less NDP. Over 7 weeks of campaigning (www.threehundredeight.com) the Libs are up 4%, Cons up 1%, NDP downs 6% (it’s only polling though – and as Dief said Poles are for the dogs). No matter how you cut it, everything points to a Minority government (could be Harps) but the losers will have considerable clout in a minority parliament. I see the Libs and NPDs ganging up on Harps. If I could look into my crystal ball – Harps will be gone not long after Oct 19 leaving a opportunity for some truly progressive conservatives to vie for the leadership.
commented 2015-09-22 20:13:37 -0400
ALEX ARMUTLU : Piss off.
You want refugees, you set up a private fund and sponsor them through an NGO.
commented 2015-09-22 18:23:09 -0400
Wow – some amazing and thoughtful comments here. Let’s give thanks to The Rebel Media, and their commitment to bring another side of these issues that are so critical to our understanding of the world we live in, and the decisions we make.
commented 2015-09-22 16:43:27 -0400
even the bigoted cbc poll had to admit that the vast majority of canadians agree with the conservatives on this..
commented 2015-09-22 01:35:10 -0400
The latest CBC poll results show the Conservatives almost a full percentage point ahead of the Liberals and a half percentage point ahead of the NDP. The Conservatives are solidly above 30%. I suspect their new campaign manager, Inger Stojberg, can take some of the credit for this.
commented 2015-09-20 23:52:01 -0400
From the poll it looks like being university educated makes you stupid.
commented 2015-09-20 20:46:42 -0400
“I was the planets first remote control.”
Damn! Well, it’s an honour to know you!
commented 2015-09-20 17:23:34 -0400
.. and let’s also assume that the same people in the ‘disagree’ camp would also like the refugees to be able to vote without any ID, after arriving here.
commented 2015-09-20 15:22:30 -0400
Terry,
No apology necessary, but thank you.
You wrote " And that’s why the Rebel’s over-the-top panic button reportage is annoying ". I still disagree with you on this subject. I feel a terrorist event from one of these migrants or refugees is on the horizon. The high male percentage makes it inevitable to me. I pray that time proves me wrong.

There is no specific statement that I can point to that points to some people getting insulted. Perhaps it was an accumulation of a lot of your comments which made me feel this alone. I reviewed a lot of your comments. Perhaps saying “some people” was not warranted. I apologize.
I must pay homage to Joan Abernethy for this great writing on this subject “It is offensive to our dignity as sentient beings when anyone belittles our fear.”

Thank-you very much for your answers on the questions I asked. It is very easy to forget the technology of that time. I have been contemplating(all day) the effects of technology and social media on this refugee crisis as it pertains to previous ones. Time is a commodity that is so precious and short. Yet it manages to slip our lives so quick and effortlessly.
I remember sometime in the very early seventies. In an effort to impress his girlfriends, my older brother would have me stand by the TV. Then(a la Caesar), he would give me a command to change the channels. Up or down with his thumb. I was the planets first remote control
commented 2015-09-20 10:08:35 -0400
I’m sure there would be a lot less resistance if the average Canadian knew that all the refugees were destined to settle in Rockliffe Park, Westmount, The Bridle Path, and Point Grey.
commented 2015-09-20 09:36:46 -0400
Alex: “That was not my intention.”
Understood, and I rereading your comment through that lens, I understand your point. Sorry for getting testy.

" I am not paranoid but I am in fear of terrorists coming into our country. I am sure Canadians and you can empathize with this."
I do. That’s an intelligent reaction to a real threat. So the intelligent response is to look clearly at the need, and the range of possible responses, bearing in mind our multiple goals as a country (our own safety and security, our humanitarian response, economic goals for migration, etc.). As it turns out, NONE of the party leaders is espousing the extremes attributed to them by the other party leaders, or by this website. Harper is NOT heartlessly saying “don’t let anyone in”: neither Mulcair not Trudeau are suggesting that we throw the doors wide open. All three are proposing a balance. To weigh the relative value of their respective positions, a Canadian needs (a) to know what they’re actually saying, and (b) to consider the options cautiously, but not in a state of panic. And that’s why the Rebel’s over-the-top panic button reportage is annoying – because it caters to, and reinforces, a response that goes way beyond cautious analysis, and ends up with people who want to exile every Muslim Canadian. That’s NOT my country.

“I still feel your arguments presently can give to a few people a sense that we are not compassionate. We are an overwhelmed people. And I can see SOME PEOPLE getting insulted by this.”
Again, if you can point me to the statement that leads you to that conclusion, I’ll cheerfully withdraw it. I can’t find it.

“I now know that you are the foremost expert on the 1979 Vietnamese refugees.”
No, I ‘m a person who worked with Project 4000. That doesn’t make me an expert in anything, unfortunately. “Perhaps you can make some relevant, honest comments about your experiences then and how it compares to the present.”

Not sure how helpful it will be, but there are a few points of comparison.
a) The refugees seeking resettlement were mostly Vietnamese, Cambodian and Thai, displaced by the the Vietnam War and Khmer Rouge. They were fleeing their countries in overcrowded, unsafe boats, giving their life savings to escape, and in many cases drowning, mostly trying to get to Hong Kong or Malaysia. All told, there were roughly two million.
b) “How informed were they?” This was before the internet, so I’d say the world was a bit less informed. However, the Vietnam War had been part of the world’s geopolitical scene since the early seventies, so people were generally aware of the conflict. It was also a bit easier to understand than the current situation in the Middle East (but then, so is quantum physics).
c) “Which had more children?” No idea, to be honest.
d) “Do you know the status of any you knew personally”. A few, yes, although most of the folks I worked with were members of the Vietnamese community who were helping to organize resettlement. But the wave of immigrants followed the classic pattern of every wave of immigrants to North America (including the Irish, the Chinese, Italians, Jews, Germans, and other groups) – a decade or so of initial reliance on their cultural community for orientation and support, employment, community and cultural life, and so on, and gradual acculturation. Now the immigrants’ kids have kids, and the Ottawa Vietnamese community is part of our city’s culture.
As I commented above, the fearful minority who opposed the project voiced some very similar concerns: they were worried about Communist spies sneaking in among the legitimate refugees, and they were worried about importing criminals and heroin smugglers and whatnot. I don’t know about the spies – never heard of any intelligence concerns afterwards – but Ottawa DOES have an Asian crime and gang scene, and I cannot say to what extent the influx of “boat people” contributed to that. My suspicion is, not much: pretty much every ethnic group in Canada, from the Italians to the Somalis, have their own criminal networks.
commented 2015-09-20 08:30:10 -0400
Donald: you’re “arguing” like the worst of the Rebel readers – by insult, lazy generalization, and hyperbole. Do better.
commented 2015-09-20 04:46:31 -0400
Donald Castro, “What a load of excrement.”
Donald,
Google up Canada’s foreign Aid for starters for starters. Let me know if you want more excrement
commented 2015-09-20 00:35:09 -0400
This laughing stock of a country is going to get a rude awakening in a very short time.

If you deny young people decent jobs and opportunity then be prepared for the consequences.
commented 2015-09-20 00:30:32 -0400
Alex Amutulu says "Look, the point I was making is that Canadians are compassionate people. "

What a load of excrement.
Canadians are a lazy mediocre bunch, and every Canadian’s dream is to receive a check from the government and making money under the table.
commented 2015-09-20 00:28:25 -0400
Worthless canadian governments are always eager to screw over the average tax paying idiot, while rolling out the red carpet for every “victim” in the world.

Trying to find a decent job as a young person these days?
“Stop being so entitled”.

Trying to get into western countries to mooch of the welfare state?
“This way please. Here is your first class ticket, Health card, and the first of many free checks. If you ever have a problem don’t hesitate to call the nearest immigration lawyer. As a foreigner with no ties to the land, or contributions to society you get the BEST of everything we have to offer. Please tell us how much you love our generosity.”
commented 2015-09-19 22:13:19 -0400
“With all due respect Terry, according to the poll, an overwhelming majority Canadians do want our government to use “intelligent caution” when processing potential refugees.”
And one of those people is me, John. I’m not sure you got my point.
commented 2015-09-19 21:50:50 -0400
Terry, I meant no disrespect. I believe you comments are excellent and you are hard to argue with(compliment). You champion “civil liberties” of Canada and without that our compassionate reputation will dissolve. Looking back at my words. It may have seemed that I was saying that you argue about our history of compassion, where I was meaning to say that you argue against our compassion presently. I am sorry for my poor use of words if I mislead you. That was not my intention.
Look, the point I was making is that Canadians are compassionate people. We have done and are doing a lot of benevolent work around the world. But we are also in the process of being overwhelmed by this crisis. The deaths of Cirillo and Vincent were real. I am not paranoid but I am in fear of terrorists coming into our country. I am sure Canadians and you can empathize with this.
The works you have done in 1979 do not surprise me. From your writings, your character is apparent. When I used the word “insulting”. I also used the the words “some people”. I still feel your arguments presently can give to a few people a sense that we are not compassionate. We are an overwhelmed people. And I can see SOME PEOPLE getting insulted by this. I surely didn’t think that you would even argue this. I meant no disrespect. It is just my opinion.

I now know that you are the foremost expert on the 1979 Vietnamese refugees. perhaps if you may, You can make some relevant, honest comments about your experiences then and how it compares to the present. Which one was most dire? How informed were they? Which had more children? Do you know the status of any you knew personally. Or other relevant comments that you feel we should know. Don’t worry, be as left wing as you wish. We WILL hold it against you.
commented 2015-09-19 19:28:00 -0400
With all due respect Terry, according to the poll, an overwhelming majority Canadians do want our government to use “intelligent caution” when processing potential refugees. Not a “tiny, angry, fearful minority”. I think we owe it to the “real” refugees to keep the terrorists that destroyed their lives out of our country. http://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/letters/letter-the-view-from-a-born-refugee
commented 2015-09-19 19:06:10 -0400
Great news coming off the news wire – OTTAWA — The Conservative government says it will speed up the processing of Syrian refugee applications in an effort to issue “thousands more” visas before the end of this year.
commented 2015-09-19 14:55:45 -0400
“We have a long history of compassion. Terry, you often try to argue the opposite. This is futile and some may even call it insulting.”
I said no such thing, and that’s not what I believe. Can you point me the quote you’re referring to in which I deny Canadians’ history of compassion? “Insulting” is attributing views to someone they don’t hold and never expressed. I’m used to that sort of stupid verbal gamesmanship from some poster here, Alex, but so far you and I have managed to talk reasonably honestly. It would be nice to maintain that.
My own experience with compassion, policy and immigration goes back to Project 4000, Ottawa’s 1979 initiative to help resettle 4000 refugees from the Vietnam war. A lot of the fear I’m hearing now is PRECISELY the same as the fear I heard then; except, of course, it was focused on the danger of allowing clandestine communists into the country along with the “real” refugees. That view, however, was held by a tiny, angry, fearful minority, and the vast majority of Canadians responded with the compassion I expect of my countrymen. . projecty such thing.
When I talk about unreasonable fear (as opposed to intelligent caution), I’m talking about deliberate attempts to use inflammatory language, a selective narrative, and (frankly) lies to engender fear – for example, the deeply dishonest video scrap deposited here earlier this week by the normally decent Mr. Potvin.
commented 2015-09-19 14:42:27 -0400
A phobia is an irrational fear of something and being paranoid is a baseless or excessive suspicion of the motives of others. Neither applies to those concerned about freedom and democracy vis-à-vis Islamism.
commented 2015-09-19 09:21:23 -0400
Joan Abernethy,
Perfectly said. “Overwhelmed” is an excellent characterization. As Joan said, Canadians are compassionate. We have a long history of compassion. Terry, you often try to argue the opposite. This is futile and some may even call it insulting.

Fear brings out the worst in people. There are a lot of hypothetical ways Canadians have suggested how we handle this. Many are radical, extreme, and some, ridiculous. But this is because of their fear.
Terry, fear breeds paranoia. If you would like to see an end to this Paranoia. The strictest screening protocols must be enforced. I don’t care how long it takes. I disagree with Peter Netterville’s attempt to find a middle ground. Respectfully Peter, your suggestion increases the chances of a terrorist attack. I could never support this. When Canadians feel they are safe. The paranoia will cease. I will quote Joan Abernethy once more “It is offensive to our dignity as sentient beings when anyone belittles our fear”.

The extremely high percentage of the refugees being young males is very alarming. Surely, there will be a terrorist attack in Canada from one of these new refugees. I fear there will be many. God Forbid.
There are very serious, legitimate, and fearful concerns that a huge majority of Canadians have. I could understand if the emotion “Compassion” stays in the back pocket for a while.
commented 2015-09-19 08:27:23 -0400
I don’t think it would be a good idea for Austria to let in the masked pieces of shit who are throwing rocks at the police and demanding entry. Just my thoughts. And I don’t think Canada should let them in either…even if they asked politely. I mean, Ottawa already has enough cab drivers, right? ;)
https://twitter.com/CBCOttawa/status/641357915345973249/photo/1