March 14, 2015

Shocking revenge pictures show Iraqi soldiers torturing and beheading ISIS terrorists

Rebel Staff

Images uploaded to social media by an account called Iraqi_lion18 show ISIS terrorists being tortured.

The shocking Instagram photos were uncovered by ABC News , but it is not known when the photos were taken.

In the photos, ISIS terrorists appear  tortured, beheaded and thrown from buildings.

The user, Iraqi_lion18, reportedly vowed "revenge" after ISIS massacred hundreds of Iraqi military cadets at Camp Speicher, according to The Mirror.

Currently, the account has been made private by the holder of the account.

Some politicians and human rights experts have called the photos “evidence of Iraqi war crimes.”

Iraqi Army spokesman General Saad Maan said “we don't have anything to hide” and an investigation will be launched.

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commented 2015-03-18 02:03:30 -0400
I said I wouldn’t comment further on this, but here I go… breaking my word. First of all, I’m not a Christian apologist, at least not if that means holding any kind of degree or having any kind of official standing. I barely graduated from high school, and I worked in the bush most of my life. I’m just someone who’s developed a burning intellectual curiosity in his old age (wish I had it in high school). I consider myself to be a “free thinker” as you claim to be. But your statement that “I’m open to accepting that a god exists if some empirical evidence is provided that can be analyzed by the scientific community and found to be a FACT” is disingenuous at best. I’m sure you already accept many things as being true for which there can be no empirical, testable, repeatable evidence. You can’t even prove that Abraham Lincoln was ever President of the United States by empirical, testable, repeatable scientific experiments. All you have are written and photographic eye witness accounts. Damn good eye witness account, a vast abundance of eye witness accounts, but eye witness accounts non the less. (By the way, I never said that all evidence is unreliable, just that all evidence must be interpreted and is therefore, subjective – even if that makes it less than100% reliable, it’s still all we got ). There are many brilliant Christian scientist, in every scientific field and discipline, that don’t see a contradiction between belief in God and belief in science. And if scientific enquiry is to be truly objective, honest and open, they would NEVER exclude the possibility of the miraculous; they would never exclude the possibility of anything. They would simply follow the evidence wherever it took them. That’s what makes claims that only scientific experimentation should be the basis for all knowledge so disingenuous. You still can’t get away from those three ludicrous possibilities for the origin of the Universe that I presented in my last posting; 1) God created it, 2) It just spontaneously popped into existence, or 3) It has existed for all eternity. If there’s a fourth possibility, let’s hear it. Short of that, one of those scenarios must necessarily be true. You also seem to exclude the possibility of personal encounters and personal experiences as irrelevant ludicrous drivel, which strikes me as rather arrogant. I don’t necessarily believe them myself, but nor do I dismiss them out of hand, I simply reserve judgment. In science, I see much evidence for God’s existence, such as the fine tuning of the Universe. That isn’t all, of course, but I’m not going to get into that. This time, this really is my last post on this subject. Post away! I’ll read ‘um. But I won’t reply. If I do, I just get too long winded to know when to stop.
commented 2015-03-17 22:22:55 -0400
Maurice, I’m open to accepting that a god exists if some empirical evidence is provided that can be analyzed by the scientific community and found to be a FACT. So far that hasn’t happened. You have really gone off on a tangent by implying that all evidence is unreliable. It’s not the first time I’ve heard that argument from Christian apologetics, their arguments are fundamentally flawed and full of various fallacies of which there is no point into getting into that here… Relying on the known facts is why science works so well when it comes to finding out the truth of the reality in which we live. As more is known, science is willing to change its theories completely to best fit the “evidence”… If something is not known, its best to say “we don’t know … yet”, just don’t try to fill in a gap in our knowlegde base with “some magic entity (god?) made it happen”, now that’s illogical. BTW, i do appreciate your point of view, it takes a lot of back and forth thinking to reach the proper results and I have read many of your other non related posts and agree with you entirely on most of your political views etc etc.
commented 2015-03-16 22:40:43 -0400
I’ll make this one comment for “Free Thinker” then I’m done. There are only three possibilities: 1) God created the Universe for His Devine purpose, 2) The Universe just spontaneously popped into existence for no particular reason, or 3) The Universe has existed in some form for all eternity (of course there are a couple of problems with the third premise; a. If the Universe is 13.7 billion years old, it can’t be eternal, and b. An infinite regress of temporal events is a philosophical impossibility). With us mere mortals, stuck here in this three dimensional mass/space/time continuum called the Universe, each one of these scenarios seems ludicrous and illogical, but since we cannot deny the existence of the Universe, or ourselves, one of them is necessarily true. Whatever we believe, we must necessarily believe on faith. It just seems to me that believing God does NOT exist requires so much more faith.. more faith than I can muster up! I realize, of course, that you can no more prove the nonexistence of God than I can prove the nonexistence of a large, hairy, inter-galactic cosmic muffin, traveling the galaxies in search of a giant pickle. All I can do is prove that there doesn’t seem to be one where I happen to be looking. At some point we all must assume that certain things are true, and I’m definitely not talking about blind faith. If we didn’t make certain assumptions, we would never get out of bed in the morning. Everything we believe, we believe based on some authority. What is the source of that authority? The funny thing about evidence, any kind of evidence… for anything, is that as an objective entity, evidence cannot and does not exist. The only things that exist objectively are facts, and there’s only two kinds of knowable facts, abstract principles of logic.. such as mathematics, and present physical reality… that which we can perceive through the five senses (even there, we must assume we’re not hallucinating). Evidence does not interpret itself, It must be interpreted and is therefore by its very nature, subjective. So the facts only become evidence when viewed through the lens of pre-existing assumptions. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with that, but if our pre-existing assumptions are wrong, then every conclusion we draw from the so-called evidence is also going to be wrong. You don’t see evidence for God because your not looking for it. You’ve already made up you mind, so all that your mind can take in are things that confirm what you’ve already decided. I see evidence for God all around me, every where and every day, but let’s just agree that neither of us are truly objective. As for this war and killing thing, Hitler, a believer in the Occult… 5 million Jews trying to stamp out a people and a religion; Stalin, atheist, communist and secular humanist… 20 million of his own people; Mao, atheist, communist and secular humanist… 70 million of his own people; Pol Pot, atheist, communist and secular humanist… approximately 3 million of his own people; Turkey, Ottoman Muslim Theocracy… the slaughter of 1.5 million Armenian Christians in the early 1900s. The Turkish Government still denies that this genocide even took place…. and we welcome them into NATO! The hands of atheists are definitely not clean. Let’s just say that human beings have the capacity for great good or great evil, and if we choose to do evil to serve our own evil desires, we will use any excuse to justify and rationalize our actions. If religion is convenient, we’ll use that. That says way more about fallen human nature than it does about religion. After all, all religion is, is a belief that something is true, without material proof. Something must be true because we’re here and so is the Universe.
commented 2015-03-16 21:36:46 -0400
Peter, as you stated, “Faith” is required to accept religion, the definition of which is “a belief not based on proof”. To base your world view on such a flimsy premise is unwise. I’m not bothered by people “of faith” but i do consider them “gullible”. If people read the bible they would see just how awful the deity described within it is… most cherry pick what they like and throw out the rest. In my opinion that’s dishonesty to their religion and further proof that religions in general are nothing more than a manmade construct, invented to control the unruly savages of the bronze age. An invisible, all powerful, all knowing, entity that can punish you for an eternity if you don’t bow down to them, what hogwash…It doesn’t fit in with a modern scientifically based world.
commented 2015-03-16 18:16:13 -0400
@ FREETHINKER – “that people who make a claim that god’s exist haven’t provided enough evidence to prove their assertion”

That is why it is called ‘faith’. It is was a certainly, then there would be no need for faith. Please answer this for me … Why does the faith of others bother you so very much?
commented 2015-03-16 17:36:22 -0400
in response to maurice, atheism is only a position on one topic, that people who make a claim that god’s exist haven’t provided enough evidence to prove their assertion. I felt i was “on topic” to bring this up as the jihadist’s are basing thier savagery on their interpretation of the koran.
commented 2015-03-16 10:36:12 -0400
Hey free thinker, you may want to change your name.
You call yourself a free thinker and here you are with a hate filled diatribe calling for the destruction of anything you do not agree with.

You say religion is all about indoctrination and mind control, yet you totally ignore the atheist states that are all about that, like nazi Germany, communist Russia, communist China, etc; etc, etc.

Atheist governments have murdered more humans in the 20th century alone, than all religions combined thru history.
commented 2015-03-16 03:45:45 -0400
Hey, FreeThinker; I’m just curious, why are you posting on this web site? You do realize that this site was founded by a Jew and a few Christians, don’t you? What do you expect to accomplish… are you looking for converts? I’m not saying your not welcome to post here.. everybody’s welcome, but I don’t understand why you would want to. It must be torture for you to hang out with people you find so repugnant. I know I’d be uncomfortable hanging out with a lot of Christian-hating atheists… not intimidated, mind you, just uncomfortable. After all, who likes hanging out with people who hate them? I just thought you might feel more comfortable posting your comments on sites where your fellow commentators agree with your position, or at least are actively looking for a debate. I suppose a debate might be fun. I’m not interested myself. I don’t believe it would serve any useful purpose. I’m not criticizing you for having an opinion. That’s entirely your right, and, please continue posting if you like, but your absolute certainty in the objective truth of what must necessarily be an opinion, smacks more of hubris than open-minded deductive logic and reasoning. Just saying.
commented 2015-03-15 22:27:56 -0400
Does anyone have a link to the photos? Would love to see them. BTW for a good laugh check out the video that ZEE posted
commented 2015-03-15 20:45:19 -0400
Marty Smith – Tarek Fatah calls them Daesh Bags.
commented 2015-03-15 17:59:37 -0400
Fell better now that you got that off you chest?
commented 2015-03-15 15:35:05 -0400
What goes around comes around. Remember they started this. They continue this and they spread this. Time they ate this.
commented 2015-03-15 06:02:46 -0400
Stone age people fighting stone age war. Perhaps this will slow recruitment?
commented 2015-03-15 04:38:14 -0400
ISIS deserve a lot worse than this. If anything, they got off easy.
commented 2015-03-14 23:55:42 -0400
Here’s one as a celebration of St. Patrick
Cheers All…
www . youtube . com/watch?v=OAuC57g5q9A&feature=em-share_video_user
commented 2015-03-14 23:13:47 -0400
Listen, the difference between the Iraqi soldiers who did this under the tutelage of our “side” and ISIS is our values. Our system of values does not condone this. IS systems of values does condone it. We believe war crimes should be tried under law. IS believes in executing whoever gets in their way.

Having said that, war is hell and when you watch youth in your community be murdered as happened in this case, a kind of desperate madness seizes your soul.

I regret these atrocities and I condemn them but I have the greatest sympathy for those that committed them.

“Have mercy on our uniforms, Man of God, Man of War” (Leonard Cohen, “Isaac’s Song”)
commented 2015-03-14 23:04:00 -0400
How many times in history have people gone to war over various religions. LOTS. The problem, the real problem, is that ALL religious beliefs are FALSE. There is no evidence that a god has every existed. At a young age most everyone is indoctrinated into whatever religious beliefs there family or society are brainwashed into believing. The whole system of pounding this nonsense into peoples heads over and over is the problem. Islam, Christianity, buddism etc etc all use the same mind control techniques. Its pathetic. As time passes, religions die off. No one worships, THOR or Zeus anymore. The bible is full of nonsense, violence and bad behaviour. People need to wake up and actually do the research into all the fallacies of religions. The earth is NOT 6000 years old. There never was a world wide flood. Slavery endorsed is the bible is a BAD thing. Women are not second class humans. Adam and Eve were NOT the first humans. Lightning and thunder are a natural process caused by water droplets in the atmosphere. The earth is not the centre of the universe. Mankind are animals who have a common ancestor with other apes. Sorry to tell everyone this, but when you die, that’s it, so make the best of the only life you will ever get. Religion doesn’t have a monopoly on morals either, (obviously). Perhaps their ideology should be attacked loudly as false. I doubt Christians will want that or their own beliefs come into question as they are based on the same scriptures. Does it not sound silly to westerners that in India the most reverred god is the Monkey god. WTF! I hope everyone will do a little research and watch a few videos from Michael Shermer, AronRa, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Neil deGrass Tyson, Richard Dawkins, Matt Dillahunty, J T Eberhard, Penn Jillette, Dan Barker or Stephen Hawking… these people are the greatest thinkers in modern times and all are atheists. Check them out on youtube or google, find out for yourself what is real in this universe and what is ancient nonsense. Not only should ISIS be destroyed for wanting to destroy humanity, but all religions should be ENDED. As a species we know better than that now. We may not know what created the big bang but it certainly wasn’t some human loving entity. ISIS is just the worst of the worst as far as religions go, but historically, all religions are based on a false premise. I invite anyone to debate these great thinkers about the existence of a god or gods. That being said, for starters, ISIS and Islam should be the first religions transferred to the MYTHOLOGY section of the library.
commented 2015-03-14 19:12:15 -0400
look up the treatment of Nazi sympathizers after WWII for context here. This is unavoidable and to be honest, I lack any empathy for these subhuman parasites called Daesh.

Millions of of Iraqis, Muslims and other nationals and ethnicities were affected and after this is over we will see one of the largest humanitarian crisis we will see this century, and quite posibly the precursors to WW III once the blame game starts. There will be reprisals. There will be death squads. There will be genocide. Think about it. The Kurds are going to be a power after this and they will exact revenge. So will the Hezbollah, and they will be FAR worse. The Hezbollah are going to end up VERY powerful after this is over and they are going to make ever Sunni Muslim who isn’t a Kurd pay with their lives and the lives of their families! This is just warming up…
commented 2015-03-14 15:00:53 -0400
Obama has accomplished at least one of his goals as President; he’s made America all but irrelevant on the world stage. They still hold the balance of military power… for now. But just barely. That won’t last long with China, Russia and the Islamic States building up their military might while the US, under this administration, seems to be determined to divest themselves of it. One thing Obama (Trudeau, Mulcair, et al) haven’t grasped is that, when it comes to Islam, the enemy of my enemy is still my enemy. Carter supported the Taliban against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, that worked out well, didn’t it? Obama supported The Muslim Brotherhood in their overthrow of Mubarak, that worked out well, didn’t it? Obama decided that Libyan dictator, Gaddafi, should be eliminated, that worked out well, didn’t it? Obama decided to support the rebels in their fight against Syrian President, Bashar al-Assad, which created the climate which gave birth to ISIS, That sure worked out well, didn’t it? The problem isn’t ISIS, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, the West Bank, Gaza, or any other predominantly Muslim part of the World. The problem is the Satanic cult of Islam itself, founded by a barbaric, blood-thirsty, hegemonic pedophile named Mohammad, along with political-correct liberal blindness. With all due respect to the moderate, peace-loving Muslims out there, who I really respect and appreciate, if you study the Qur’an and the Hadiths you come to the inescapable conclusion that it’s these moderates who are actually are the apostates from the Islamic faith, not the blood-thirsty barbarians.
commented 2015-03-14 14:59:14 -0400
You must have misread my posts … or misunderstood them. At no time did I condone ISIL (or ISIS as some call them). Neither do I condone the acts of the Iraqi. Both groups, ISIS and the Iraqi employ despicable acts. I am not sure I agree with the eye-for-an-eye approach. If they want to kill each other is such a fashion, well let them keep that over in their country and not bring it here.
commented 2015-03-14 14:42:53 -0400
@peter Netterville – Really! Are the ISIL terrorists innocent civilians? I have a friend from Iraq and ISIL came to his cousins house, dragged him out of bed and chopped off his head in front of his family just to scare everyone else in the community AND YOU say dispatching the TERRORISTS in a similar fashion is JUST AS BAD! You are very wrong but feel free to go to Iraq and help them understand goof!
commented 2015-03-14 14:34:49 -0400
What! “evidence of Iraqi war crimes” – Really! Sounds like tit for tat vengance and if the Media published it as much as the same atrocities by ISIL, then maybe ISIL would have MORE DIFFICULTY RECRUITING!
Obviously Obama and Trudeau would rather go after the Victims than go after the Extremist Islamist Caliphate!
commented 2015-03-14 12:05:14 -0400
From The Washington Post, September 8, 2014, By Marc A. Thiessen

When former President George W. Bush makes a rare visit to Washington today, he won’t criticize President Obama for the bloodletting Obama unleashed with his withdrawal from Iraq. After leaving office, Bush promised Obama his silence. He is a man of his word.

But if Bush did speak out, here is what he ought to say:

I told you so.

In the summer of 2007, Bush warned of the dire consequence of pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq against the advice of our commanders on the ground. All of Washington was telling Bush that the surge he had launched would fail and that the time had come to withdraw from Iraq and accept defeat.

At a White House news conference on July 12, 2007, Bush declared: “I know some in Washington would like us to start leaving Iraq now. To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we’re ready would be dangerous for Iraq, for the region and for the United States. It would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al-Qaeda. It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan. It would mean we’d be increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.”

He had no idea at the time how prophetic his words would be.

In 2010, Obama did precisely what Bush warned against and withdrew all U.S. forces from Iraq — overruling his commander on the ground, Gen. Lloyd J. Austin III, who had recommended that Obama keep 24,000 troops. And since then, everything that Bush warned would happen has come to pass.

Bush warned that withdrawing against the advice of our military commanders would result in “mass killings on a horrific scale.” Check. We’re now seeing mass killings on a horrific scale — summary executions, women and children buried alive, people being crucified, the attempted genocide of the Yazidis and two American journalists beheaded.

Bush warned that withdrawal would “allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan.” Check. The Islamic State now controls a safe haven the size of Belgium.

Bush warned withdrawing too soon would “mean we’d be increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous.” Check. The Islamic State is far more dangerous now, the United States is back carrying out airstrikes in Iraq and Obama will address the nation on Wednesday to lay out a new military strategy to defeat the Islamic State.

That’s not all. In a July 14, 2007, radio address, Bush also warned that U.S. withdrawal would allow “terrorists to . . . gain control of vast oil resources they could use to fund new attacks on America.” Check. The Islamic State now controls vast oil resources, which are bringing the group an estimated $3 million a day — helping it to become the wealthiest terror network in the world.

In a Sept. 13, 2007, Oval Office address, Bush warned that “Iran would benefit from the chaos” after U.S. withdrawal from Iraq. Check. Just last week, the United States provided air cover for Iranian-back Shiite militias as they took back the town of Amerli — which means we are now serving as the de-facto air force for the same Iranian-backed militias who were responsible for many of the U.S. casualties in Iraq.

Can you say victory?

In an April 24, 2007, news conference Bush warned that U.S. withdrawal “could unleash chaos in Iraq that could spread across the entire region.” Check. After the United States withdrew from Iraq, the Islamic State moved into Syria, killing thousands and using that country as a staging area to recruit jihadists and plan its re-invasion of Iraq.

In other words, since Obama withdrew U.S. troops all of these warnings have come true. In Iraq, we are seeing what happens when the United States cuts and runs and allows evil to run rampant. The results were entirely predictable.

Indeed, they were predicted — by George W. Bush
commented 2015-03-14 12:01:09 -0400
Unfortunately, one is as bad as the other in many respects. ISIS of course wants to create a Caliphate & spread Sharia throughout the world. We have to stop them even if Iraquis don’t meet our humanitarian views.
commented 2015-03-14 11:40:45 -0400
I see Netterville’s point. This is Muslim on Muslim violence. Just think what they would do to us! But, don’t be afraid. Justin will fix this. He thinks this is just their belief system that we HAVE to respect! Once we respect them they will love us, right? We just have to ‘ENGAGE’ them in dialogue. C’mon Mulcair and Justin…cheer them on…niqabs, wife beating for education, beheadings, hatred of anything unIslamic, hatred of liberty, hatred of ‘ENGAGING’ politicians, Justin. It is their religious right, no? In fact, it is scandalous that the left calls "US’ “haters” if we don’t get on board with them… the sanity of the left is really questionable. I printed these photos out in case they get removed from the website.
commented 2015-03-14 10:21:42 -0400
@ True North
Yes, it view of their culture & situation, it does appear their action, albeit barbaric in our eyes, seems to be a more appropriate and equivalent response to ISIS. Unfortunately, they seem to want to bring their culture over here and “have-it-out”. No beheadings yet, but if was it the Toronto 18 that wanted to behead the PM?
commented 2015-03-14 10:10:33 -0400
It may be a ‘screwed up world’ but it is their screwed up world. It appears as though the Iraqis know that ,ISIS will not respond to a reasoned “please don’t do that” and that the old “an eye for an eye” seems to have better results with a stone aged culture. like this one. Their actions may be unsettling by our standards but Iraq is not downtown Canada and Iraqis are fighting for their lives and their country.
commented 2015-03-14 09:45:05 -0400
The pictures seem to prove that the Iraqi are no better than ISIS. What a screwed up world we live in.