August 17, 2016

Social conservative MP Brad Trost enters CPC leadership race: Will he alienate millennials?

Christopher WilsonRebel Commentator
 

Saskatchewan MP Brad Trost has thrown his hat in the ring for the Conservative Party leadership, strangely making the announcement while on vacation in Mongolia of all places.

Trost’s entry marks the 6th person to make their bid for leader of the opposition and he will be defending the party’s right flank.

A man who once described himself as to the right of Atilla the Hun, Trost will undoubtedly be campaigning on a social conservative platform.

The Conservative Party has a chance to capitalize on the discontent fuelled by stagnating wages, less opportunity for the middle class and sky high real estate prices, but we have to push the appeal towards young people.

Watch as I give my take on Trost’s entry into the race as a 30 year old millennial who lives in a major urban area like Vancouver.

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commented 2016-08-20 01:58:33 -0400
It would appear from many of the ‘conservative’ commenters here that the ‘most important thing’ is to get and maintain ‘power’ in order to advance a conservative ideology, and at this point to preserve Canada at any cost…as opposed to the liberal/progressive agenda of the internal self destruction of Canada for their Globalist masters.
Maybe at this time and date in this time/space continuum…the most important thing is to maintain our own individual ‘power’ and integrity and vote our hearts and not our minds…
The liberals have no heart, and their minds are not their own – they are victims of indoctrination – and it would seem, willing victims…
I refer to the liberalization, or Marxist/Globalist agenda being imposed on Canada and all other Western nations, as being inevitable at this point – the ‘results’ of the so-called ‘elections’ of the past few years seems to bear this out.
Ask yourselves why social conservatives, and the Christian moral principles that all Western nations were founded upon, are being pushed out of the equation at so many levels…

CANADIAN CHARTER OF RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS
Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law…”
commented 2016-08-19 16:16:25 -0400
But at this point I would accept the most boring and Mundane of politicians that had a majority vote and actually kept his word and did the will of the people…
Stopped mass importation from war like countries until a proper vetting process I have been initiated.. one that would quit buying conflict oil from the Middle East and pipe oil from our own country to wear what was needed in our own country.
One that would consider mainstream Canadian values over every minority group in the country.. and so on and so on and so on.
commented 2016-08-19 11:07:02 -0400
Spot on, Leviticus 2013.
commented 2016-08-19 09:49:40 -0400
A politician with a little charm and some integrity is just what Canada needs right now..
Anybody know someone that fits that bill.. charm and charisma are a gift and most people who have that gift use it as a means to their own end instead of applying it as a gift for the good of society and its people.
So I guess what we need is someone a lot like Donald Trump who is not part of the establishment who is not a career politician and someone who is fed up with the status quo and the endless lies and bullshit…
commented 2016-08-19 01:41:19 -0400
Cameron – “yawn”?… I think you are just farting in the wind and not trying very hard….
commented 2016-08-18 23:37:25 -0400
Atokenconservative,

I don’t disagree with the premise that socially conservative views are culturally unpopular and that short term conservatives are more likely to achieve electoral success by parroting leftist parties. I am saying that allowing leftist to dominate social issues WILL allow them to dominate fiscal issues in a way away from fiscal conservativism. If the left can with a straight face declare that Paul Wolscht is a 6 year girl or that Bruce Jenner is a woman, you can kiss your money goodbye. This is because we have allowed them to get away with a bigger lie in the former case than in the latter case. Every one knows that’s Jenner isn’t a woman. It is less obvious that the state doesn’t deserve to have an unlimited right to your bank accounts. Ask yourself what is the bigger and more obvious lie? That Jenner is a woman or my bank accounts are state property?

If we grant the left the god-like authority to define such matters as gender, we grant them the ability to define fiscal matters also.
commented 2016-08-18 23:20:03 -0400
What is the point of winning an election if we have to win it by being a carbon copy of the opposition. What kind of a ‘prize’ is that? I would rather see the conservatives as a strong opposition to counter the liberals than for them to become liberals.

It seems apparent to me that the left are the ones sitting on our faces, not the other way around. Why it’s assumed everything is ‘religious based’ with conservatives?
Conservatives are about compromise. The left is about a free for all. Not everybody wants a free for all, on any issue. On all of the so called social or moral issues, conservatives just want some reasonable compromise. Are you telling me young Canadians just want what they want when they want it? I give them more credit than that. Not all millennials are incapable of original thought. I think a lot of liberals and new voters will come over. They will be pretty worried about the deep hole Justin will have dug the country into by then. They will be looking for some daylight. If all millennials are perpetual babies, I guess we’re hooped.

As far as Brad Trost is concerned , after hearing him speak at the convention I would say if he gets it, we haven’t a chance. No personality, and we need a leader with enough personality to communicate effectively.
commented 2016-08-18 23:18:21 -0400
Terry Black—“we cannot sell this Political Party on morals.”
Great line Terry; that’s what my comment was trying to say. Let the voters that want or need Religion get it at their favorite church, not in the Political arena.
commented 2016-08-18 22:44:10 -0400
We need a progressive conservative government at a federal level and a partisan one at a provincial level..
There is an outside chance that mainstream Canada provincewide is fed up with this little cunt and his pandering to every special interest group that there is in an effort to suck a vote and may wish to end this little boys dream by electing someone from the west who is familiar with raising food and getting it efficiently distributed producing energy and having it marketed who understands mining and generally putting the welfare of Canadians who wish to better themselves by working ahead of those that want to suck at a government nipple for daily gratification.
Our biggest hope is that mainstream Canada has become disillusioned with him and there’s enough of us left that would out distance the Muslim vote that he has provided for himself at everybody else’s expense and potential endangerment.
commented 2016-08-18 22:23:27 -0400
Additionally, socons must point out the inconsistencies of leftists on abortions who say that abortion for any reason and at any time is a woman’s right but who also condemn sex selective abortion:

http://www.therebel.media/here_s_how_pro_abortion_feminists_make_uterus_male_only_safe_space

https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2016/04/12/health-minister-deeply-disturbed-by-report-son-preference-linked-to-sex-selective-abortions.html

Trost could point out that Dr. Eric Hoskins, an Ontario Liberal Cabinet Minister no less, condemns sex selective abortion.
commented 2016-08-18 22:11:12 -0400
I agree with Al Peterson. Long term, socons have to bite the bullet and face the inevitable onslaught of ridicule for sticking up for our values. And these values are important. Caving into leftist values will not solve the underlying problem of cultural dominance of the left by means of indoctrination by k-12 and post secondary public education, mainstream news media, and other media (music, film, television).

By caving, we only delay the inevitable of waking up and realizing that we have become a carbon copy of our opponents. If we are running to eventually become Liberals and New Democrats, what’s the point?

As I see it, the problem is how to reach a largely brainwashed public? We can use the news media’s disdain for social conservativism to our advantage. The MSM is watching everything Trost does and says like a hawk. What if Brad Trost were to post links to the excellent videos by Dr. Anthony Levatino about abortion procedures?

First trimester abortions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRDnVSMr5j0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5THDmys8z30

Second trimester abortions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgw4X7Dw_3k

Third trimester abortions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Af8vIym2o

The CBC et al. would go bananas and gleefully report on the presence of the videos. But these videos have been shown to demonstrably change the view of pro-choicers to those of pro-lifers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xWQHhqOAcg
commented 2016-08-18 21:54:47 -0400
You know what I liked about being a Canadian in the past decade? The fact that it wasn’t a Liberal in charge, telling us all what’s good for us. I’d like that again, but that aint gonna happen as long as we conservatives continue to let the left wing define us by our social policies. What all of you hard core right wingers here are saying isn’t that you want a socon in charge; it’s that you want that socon’s policies to be the most popular and supported by the most people in Canada, just like you. Sorry, that just isn’t happening. Blame the millenials, blame the MSM, blame our increasingly permissive society but there it is: no social conservative is going to get elected in Canada in the forseeable future. This is just digging down into the basic fact that a few here have picked up on; that Harper kept his social conservativeness part of the “hidden agenda” and won elections by being a fiscal conservative. The important thing here folks; the “prize” we all have to keep our eyes on; is governing. I’ll take 8 or 9 years of a fiscal conservative who’s weak on social conservative issues over the same time frame of a Liberal government of any flavour, any day. Yes, it would be nice if the majority of the electorate saw things the way so many here do, but the reality is that most Canadians just … don’t. I like what Christopher says about legislating morality. You know who legislates morality? Assholes legislate morality. It’s no more fun for gays and women with unwanted pregnancies in a western Conservative democracy than it is for gays and women and Christians in a middle eastern Sharia controlled theocracy. A conservative (or Liberal) government in Canada that legislates morality is one small step away from a theocratic form of government, which is something I would fight against with everything I have. A Christian based theocracy isn’t that different than a muslim one, IMO.
I used to be a socialist. It was the concepts of fiscal conservatism that lured me to the “right” way of thinking. It could work for any left winger who pays taxes, if presented in the right way. But saying that gay marriage isn’t Canadian or moral, telling women that the government knows what’s better for them than they do, all this shit does is guarantee that Trudeau will stay in power for at least a generation. Until his kids are old enough to continue the dynasty, anyway. As conservatives, Conservatives, and people with defined political opinions we aren’t going to get what we want no matter how many nasty letters we write or how many fights we get into online if the position we take on social issues leaves us open to the bullshit that the left will throw at us for it. So, yes, I’m agreeing with the position that a social conservative is unelectable in Canada. It’s what Christopher is saying, it’s what the voters have said over and over again, and it’s what social conservatives are just going to have to accept. Or learn to accept a future of Liberal-only governments.
commented 2016-08-18 21:49:26 -0400
Andrews, your spelling sirs. Well done.
commented 2016-08-18 21:20:48 -0400
Terry how is the church going to keep (I should say get) this extreme gender ed out of schools? How is the church going to stop this climate change madness, or refugee madness or blm madness, or sharia creep, or biased supreme court judges or nothing but left wing academics teaching in universities, the accommodation of every blessed minuscule minority group at the expense of our accommodation? Who’s talking about pushing ‘morals’?
Canadians can tolerate all sorts of things, but does that mean we have to tolerate everything? The more we let slide the more the left cram THEIR morals down OUR throats.
Not all millennials are idiots, why do we have to stoop to the lowest common denominator to get a conservative in? And why do conservatives feel they have to apologize for being conservative? Because we haven’t sold ourselves properly. By that I mean,we haven’t sold honest conservatism, what it really means. We have allowed the left to define us.
Having said that, it wouldn’t hurt to have a leader with some charisma, because it makes communication a heck of a lot easier, but no liberal lights.
commented 2016-08-18 21:10:26 -0400
It’s irrelevant, anyway. Trudeau’s a two termer, probably three. Maybe four. By then the social conservative base will be significantly smaller as they’re getting up there in years.
commented 2016-08-18 19:38:59 -0400
I believe Christopher Wilson is correct in this aspect, while I am quite Right Winged myself and while I like a good foundation of ethics so that I know that I am dealing with people that I can trust….I do not believe we should be selling this Political party on morals, let me put it this way , we cannot afford Canada to fall down in total destruction under the bankruptcy and leftist ideology that is killing our business and our jobs as well as our income and ability for young people even to be able to afford homes with Justin and Bill Morneau’s handling of our Canadian economy however, if we have a candidate pushing morals and a social Conservative platform, the Millennials and young people will not award us a single vote, let us keep the State out of the morals of our nation, as they say, Politics has no business as to what goes on in the bedrooms of our Nation and it is not worth suffering an additional 4 years of Socialist Marxist style Liberal or Trudeau Government!
We all know that will kill Canada!
The Conservative Party has a chance to capitalize on the discontent fueled by stagnating wages, less opportunity for the middle class and sky high real estate prices, but we have to push the appeal towards young people.
If the Churches and community organizations feel that our Social issues are hurting us, it is up to them to find ways to deal with that battle that is why they are supposed to be clergy and it is time for them to do the job, The Conservative Party cannot take the blow for the work Churches, Lions’ Clubs, Kinsmen Clubs, Rotary Clubs are supposed to be doing to build strong dependable character, responsibility and trustworthiness in our communities throughout Canada! That now has to be a separate program from politics in Canada at this point in time if we want to have some stability of our future at this time!
This doesn’t mean we can be dam fools and roll around in the mud with the livestock either, we have to maintain our common sense!
As was said, "All things in Moderation!
commented 2016-08-18 18:22:27 -0400
At this time no party has agreed to stop mass immigration. As a multi cultural country with a socialist judiciary Sharia law will be snap to implement. This will allow Muslims to ………please research.
Canadians have no interest in protecting thier life’s or Liberty. I just don’t get it

When the Conservative party stops mass immigration and supports policy’s that encourage Canadians to have children. We need to let the wonderful cultures we have develop and prosper instead of destroying cultures with forced diversity.

When the Conservative party starts giving us clear laws that protect citizens from Sharia law and enforces Canadian laws against honor killings, child brides and female genital mutilation.

When the Conservative party makes or enforces laws like in this article

Islam, by law, is prohibited from US immigration
The Immigration and Nationality Act passed June 27, 1952 revised the laws relating to immigration, naturalization, and nationality for the United States. That act, which became Public Law 414, established both the law and the intent of Congress regarding the immigration of Aliens to the US and remains in effect today. Among the many issues it covers, one in particular, found in Chapter 2 Section 212, is the prohibition of entry to the US if the Alien belongs to an organization seeking to overthrow the government of the United States by “force, violence, or other unconstitutional means.” This, by its very definition, rules out Islamic immigration to the United States, but this law is being ignored by the White House.
The laws prohibits entry of “Aliens who the consular officer or the Attorney General knows or has reason to believe seek to enter the United States solely, principally, or incidentally to engage in activities which would be prejudicial to the public interest, or endanger the welfare, safety, or security of the United States.” It also prohibits the entry of Aliens who are members of or affiliated with any organization that advocates or teaches, the overthrow by force, violence, or other unconstitutional means of the US or of all forms of law, and Aliens who publish, circulate and distribute materials teaching or advocating the overthrow by force, violence or other unconstitutional means of the US Government or of all forms of law.
Islamic immigration to the US would be prohibited under this law because the Koran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete submission to Islam, which is antithetical to the US government, the Constitution, and to the Republic. All Muslims who attest that the Koran is their life’s guiding principal subscribe to submission to Islam and its form of government. Now the political correct crowd would say that Islamists cannot be prohibited from entering the US because Islam is a religion. Whether it is a religion is immaterial because the law states that Aliens who are affiliated with any “organization” that advocates the overthrow of our government are prohibited. It also prohibits those who distribute literature that advocates the overthrow of our country, which would include the Koran.
In fact, there are many verses in the Koran that command Islamists to kill those who do not submit to allah and the prophet. If Congress so desired to hold the White House accountable to the current immigration of refugees (which also must comply with the law), it has the Immigration and Nationality Act to cite. The Administration is breaking that law. The question is “does Congress have the political will to do something about it?” Or shall we be a nation like that in Isaiah 59:14 where, “justice is turned back, and righteousness stands afar off: for truth is fallen in the street, and equity cannot enter.” I think you know the answer, at least for now. But there are a handful of Congressmen who are studying this. Pray.
To read the law, go to this link and scroll down to Chapter 2, Section 212:http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE…E-66-Pg163.pdf

I will vote conservative first time and many others will also.

As a potential party leader consider Raheel Reza that will sink racist accusations. She will fight like a tigress against Sharia Law. She knows our enemy better the we do. Plus she refuses police protection against the fatwa on her head (religion of peace) as prime minister this National treasure would be safe.
commented 2016-08-18 17:21:58 -0400
What we’ve been labeled as by the left. Unreasonable, racist, pushing religion on people, uncharitable, don’t respect the environment etc. etc. The conservative party doesn’t have to go ‘liberal light’ to gain votes. We just have to properly counter the lies. We have allowed ourselves to be branded by the enemy. We have to push the fact that all of these things we are being labelled with are untruths about us. If you don’t make it clear what you stand for others will do it for you, and that is exactly what has happened to conservatives. We have been branded as evil. We don’t need to show our opponents that we have a softer side just like them , we need to show them we have something that makes more sense to vote for and support and why. We needn’t water down conservative values to win. We need to refute the lies and stand up for the fundamentals of conservatism.
We need some good PR to do that. Not a shirtless boy wonder huckster to mesmerize the masses.
I just meant the right wing impression the left has labelled us with, and the folly of using that as a guide into the next election. We shouldn’t be defining ourselves by their definition. We need to make the conservative brand stronger by making it clearer, keeping in mind what ‘conservatism’ actually stands for.
commented 2016-08-18 16:03:45 -0400
Liza Rosie… What do you mean by unbearably right wing..!??
commented 2016-08-18 15:57:43 -0400
It kind of looks like a lot of people want some basic moral standards to celebrated in this country once more. Valerie’s example of those politicians who wet a finger, hold it up to see which way the wind is blowing to make a decision, are exactly the kind politician people (if they aren’t already) will be wholly sick and tired of by the time the next election rolls around. It’s time the grown-ups took control again. To pander to a bunch of ill behaved children is never a good omen for the future of any society. There are many millennials who are not children. We need more of them to speak up and show the party we don’t need to be ‘liberal light’ to win. That being the adult in the room, doesn’t necessarily mean being unbearably right wing. We need some better PR and time is wasting.
commented 2016-08-18 15:09:59 -0400
The CPC must not under any circumstances cave in to the evil forces that are pushing it further to the left of center than they already are – MUST NOT!
The CPC must not under any circumstances allow the LPC to retain power for another election cycle – MUST NOT!
Imposed cognitive dissonance – the work of Satan! Is there any escape from this horrific conundrum…
commented 2016-08-18 15:04:39 -0400
Stephen Harper recognized that campaigning on strong social conservatism would not work, since the majority of the people in this country are not socially conservative. He himself, was, however, a social conservative. He thought like I think. His ideas and policies for the most part made sense to me. I knew he had a moral compass to guide him, not just a wetted finger to the wind to see which way the media winds were blowing. He seemed principled, in general. Most people swallowed the MSM vilification of Harper and they managed to take him down in the last election, to the detriment of this nation. A lot of social conservatism makes sense to everyday people, and could be embraced by a large percentage of the population if presented reasonably. Rona Ambrose out cheering in the gay pride parade was not necessary. She will never have my backing just for that reason. I am sick of people who have no standards, and do anything for approval of the masses. It’s easy enough to stay out of those kinds of arenas so as not to alienate the social conservative base of the party. But she just did “Liberal light”….so long as no one could criticize her….we need some moral courage in our time…I will vote for any man or woman who is willing to have that courage in the face of insipid, stand for nothing leadership all over the world….we did have a good man in Harper but he’s gone now. Kenney would have had my vote but he is gone too.
commented 2016-08-18 13:08:51 -0400
ABLE: anyone but Liberal elites. Eventually the ideologies of Islam will clash with the immoral practices we celebrate.
commented 2016-08-18 12:12:38 -0400
I think a lot of leftist voters instinctively distrust conservatives. This means that no matter what we do, we will be viewed as either pandering for votes or confirming the worst fears of leftists. When we go back on positions like gay marriage we look weak and desparate in the eyes if leftists. We also lend credibility to Liberals and New Democrats because we implicitly say that leftist parties always get the big issues right. If leftist parties are right about big issues, well why shouldn’t peoples trust them on the economy or on the latest political flavour of the month (eg climate change, transgenderism)?
commented 2016-08-18 11:52:58 -0400
Mosquito babies? Bob Egli what are talking about?
commented 2016-08-18 09:18:32 -0400
Henry Reardon. very good post ,agree with you on all of your points, that is my idea of a conservative party which we desperately need .
commented 2016-08-18 09:15:03 -0400
Peter, I agree that a socon will have a rough ride in the media. But that is no reason to compromise our integrity. Since we will likely have a lefty government no matter which party we have under the current setting, I would prefer a conservative in reality – even if he or she can’t get voted in than a sheep in wolfs clothing.
I still maintain that such a party would actually draw voters over time because all the free publicity the MSM would give them with all their howling and whining. The message would be getting out. The issue would stay in the news that no one will raise now: e.g. Islam. (What I wouldn’t give to hear one of our leaders speak like Geert Wilders!) Just stay the course over the long haul and people might start to see the truth.