May 14, 2016

The state took Bruce Montague’s guns. Now they're coming for his house.

Holly NicholasRebel Commentator
 

Bruce and Donna Montague let their firearms licenses expire deliberately knowing they would be charged with an offence in order to challenge the constitutionality of the law in court.

They were protesting amendments made to the Criminal Code after Bill C-68 passed requiring rifle and shotgun owners to register firearms with the government. They felt this infringed their basic rights.

The Ontario courts rejected his constitutional arguments and the Supreme Court of Canada denied his appeal.

As a result, Bruce was convicted of 26 crimes involving firearms, while Donna was convicted of one offence. He was sentenced to 18 months in prison plus probation and served six months.

The convictions ranged from improper storage to filing off serial numbers but nothing dangerous or violent.

Bruce wasn’t just a gun owner. He was a well respected licensed gunsmith and firearms dealer that serviced guns for clients (including the OPP) from his home based business and now he’s prohibited from possessing firearms.

In addition to serving jail time, he lost his career.

The federal government applied under the Criminal Code to force the Montague’s to forfeit ownership of their firearms including his business catalogue valued over $100,000.

Now, the Ontario government has brought a civil action claiming forfeiture of the firearms and their home.

Derek From, Canadian Constitution Foundation, defines civil forfeiture as:

“laws that allow Canada’s provincial governments to seize and transfer ownership of property and money without compensation when that property or money is suspected either of being used to commit an unlawful act or of being acquired by committing an unlawful act.”

The province of Ontario alleges the guns and home are either “proceeds of unlawful activity” or “instruments of unlawful activity” which is defined in the Civil Remedies Act of 2001.

There are two important points about what the Ontario government did.

One, they sought the Montague’s property before any conviction or trial. The order was filed on September 14, 2005 and Bruce was sentenced on March 18, 2008.

Another peculiar action was an "Offer to Settle" asking Bruce and Donna to deposit $50,000 into a special purpose account in lieu of home forfeiture, and imposed a gag order reading:

“The Respondents agree that they will not disseminate, in any fashion, including through electronic media, the terms of this offer.”

The Montague’s saw this as extortion and didn’t comply.

Originally, civil forteiture legislation was meant to deter crime and compensate victims. However, many critics now say it looks more like a way for the government to benefit from taking away people’s possessions, which they can then sell for profit.

When the police raided the Montague’s home they took family heirlooms, books, computers, a video collection and other personal items asserting that the items were obtained with the proceeds of criminal behaviour.

While Bruce now has a criminal record due his civil disobedience, none of those charges were for violent or dangerous offences. Plus he was a licensed gunsmith and arms dealer.

It wasn’t enough for Bruce to pay his debt to society by serving jail time and having his business and career destroyed for acts of civil disobedience and peaceful protest.

Bruce and Donna have lost their life savings and now the government wants to take away their home.

You may not be a gun owner and may be against guns, or maybe you don’t care about gun rights – but the take away from Bruce and Donna Montague’s story is that if the government can take away their property, they can take away yours, too.

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commented 2016-05-16 16:31:56 -0400
The only governing party to literally steal from the electorate was and still is the Liberal party. How a criminal organization as in the Liberal party can be a representative of government with a criminal record of theft over $5,000 can sit as government is mind boggling. Hundreds of millions has been stolen from this party and we are about to repeat history but this time to the tune of billions. Yet some how a criminal organization can still form government. The theft of rights is just the beginning of a government determined to install a dictatorship.
commented 2016-05-16 15:28:32 -0400
Why is this story of interest? Has something currently occurred with this case? The latest info from an on-line research shows info up until 2014. Is Mr. Montague facing current court trials? I cannot seem to find anything.
commented 2016-05-16 15:15:40 -0400
Jay Kelly
The article does state that he was convicted of filing off serial numbers. That still does not justify the severity of the punishment.
commented 2016-05-16 15:11:57 -0400
Jay Kelly
Do we know it was Montague who filed off the serial number or are you just assuming it to be true?
commented 2016-05-16 15:03:29 -0400
Jay Kelly
You can be charged and convicted of unsafe storage and yet have done nothing dangerous. You could lock your handgun in the worlds best bank vault. If you did not also have another locking device on the gun itself you could be charged with unsafe storage (strange but true).
The missing serial number is in and of itself not inherently dangerous, and yes police can still read the impression of the serial number in the underlying metal even when it is filed off. Why someone would file off the serial number thinking they could avoid the number being traced is beyond me.
The example of a child finding a loaded fire arm is indeed serious but that was not the situation here so it is not terribly relevant to this situation.
Do you really believe these people deserve to have their lives ruined and their home confiscated in this situation?
commented 2016-05-16 08:44:08 -0400
How do I support this family? Is a fund set up? Governments in Canada and the police that carry out their bidding are out of control. They are now throwing good people in prison.
I have heard it said that a person willing to sacrifice freedom for safety deserves neither.
commented 2016-05-16 08:20:59 -0400
This story proves yet again how government can will come up with laws like this one under the disguise of protecting society when in fact all they want to do is CONTROL society! That was their motive right from the start. In the US they have the right to bare arms as a constitutional right. They did this not only to protect themselves against the criminal element but against the government. As you can see in this story, it’s the government that are really the criminal element here, not the citizens. And for the Judges on the Supreme Court to refuse his right for appeal proves yet again that the government controls the courts ando Judges. There is no accountability by society against this Control they have over us.
So when are we going to say enough is enough? Everyday I read about over government does this sort of thing and our rights and freedoms are taken away slowly but surely! I for one will surely die a FREE MAN because on that day I will be wearing a shirt that states “Today I Die Free” because I will defend my right by dining government to control me. Our veterans didn’t die defending this country and our freedoms just so our own sanctimonious government can take it away from us!
commented 2016-05-16 05:55:18 -0400
So when is The Rebel setting up a defence fund?
commented 2016-05-16 03:19:12 -0400
Jay, I will do as I please with the tool, my firearm. Who are you to tell me? It never sees the public, unless you are dumb like your Gordo Steele?
commented 2016-05-16 03:18:26 -0400
Perhaps nobody’s heard about this yet, but WYNNIE the Shite is planning on extending the gun registration laws to include all types of weapons that may be used in crime.
So starting in June, all residents of Ontario will be required to have any cutlery registered (this new law would exempt such items as spoons and whisks)
Continuing in July, all rope or cord I excess of 18" and 1/4" in diameter will need to be registered.
Since there have been a few people murdered by drowning, in August, all water will need to be registered.
Before the commencement of the World Series, all baseball bats will be required to be registered this to commence in September
October is set aside for the registration of hockey equipment. Items such as hockey stick, skates, pucks and athletic cups must be properly registered.
December sees the requirement of all Christmas paraphernalia as this is extremely dangerous to Muslims and although the Star of David has nothing to do with this holiday, it is felt that these should be registered as well as they have six pointy sides.
Upon registration, the owner will need to fill out a fifteen page document in quadruplicate. The owner will be issued with two sticky 72 digit registration numbers that are to measure no less than 4″ × 18″ and no more than 12″ × 36″. These registration numbers must be affixed to the item registered and the duplicate be in the owners possession at all times.
Failure to comply with the foregoing will result in the loss of all personal assets, homes as well as incarceration for a minimum of twelve years in jail and a one of not less than $100,000.

DJBT!
DKDBW!
commented 2016-05-16 02:58:04 -0400
Hey Jay,

Here is the answer to your question,

DJBT means DUMP JUSTIN BIN TRUDEAU

DKDBW means DUMP KATHLEEN DOUCHE BAG WYNNE

DTTN means DUMP THE TWAT NOTLEY

These letters should be emblazoned across the whole country

DJBT
commented 2016-05-16 01:37:40 -0400
Manitoba just passed a new law. Anybody who is a perpetrator of domestic violence or stalking, can get their weapons confiscated by the police. It is not that I am defending perpetrators. It is that this kind of a law sets a new tone which could lead to a slippery slope. So what else will become grounds for the government taking away people’s guns? If I openly support a conservative cause, will the police come and raid my home in the name of protecting other people?
commented 2016-05-15 23:13:15 -0400
Daniel, that is a little strange. Why would someone shave of a serial number in metal if it could still be read?

But far more importantly you say: " most accidental firearm deaths are because the gun was stored with a round in the chamber and a kid, who was not taught to leave the gun alone, came in and started fooling around with it."

If I was a parent of that kid I would be royally ticked off. The Ontario couple who “transgressed” the laws were charged and I agree with that. Is that not the issue? The father thought he had the right to leave the loaded rifle around, and his kid was uneducated?
commented 2016-05-15 23:06:27 -0400
Jay,
It doesn’t matter if the serial number is filed off. Bureaucrats made it law that serial numbers must be stamped into metal, so that it can still be found after it is filed off by a microscopic examination of the metal. It takes a little longer, but it is still possible. Also the only time a serial number is recorded is if the firearm is connected to a crime, after which it is destroyed ASAP. The only non-criminal reason a serial number is recorded is if the firearm is reported stolen, or if it is registered. Serial numbers reveal nothing a out the firearm unless a country has a mandatory registry.
With regards to how dangerous improper storage can be, most accidental firearm deaths are because the gun was stored with a round in the chamber and a kid, who was not taught to leave the gun alone, came in and started fooling around with it. All that it would take to remedy that is basic gun safety and handling education, with strict punishment from the parents if the rules are transgressed. Guns are only dangerous around children if they are left loaded, and the kids are uneducated.
commented 2016-05-15 23:04:18 -0400
Robert Raymond, what does DJBT stand for? You are talking to a guy who thought SJW meant ‘single Jewish woman’ and lol meant ‘lots of love’.
commented 2016-05-15 22:39:45 -0400
Jay, still the Liberal shill

DJBT!
commented 2016-05-15 21:32:03 -0400
“The convictions ranged from improper storage to filing off serial numbers but nothing dangerous or violent.”
Improper storage of weapons is not dangerous? Have you any idea how many children in the U.S. are killed by firearms that were not properly stored?

Filing off serial numbers from weapons is not dangerous? Do you know how many criminals would love to get their hands on an untraceable weapon?

Come on. Get real. This is not the U.S.. Bruce Montague broke the law knowingly, no less then if he filed the VIN number off a car, handed the keys to a twelve year-old, and then boasted about it to the police.
commented 2016-05-15 16:24:16 -0400
the government is a mafia crime syndicate that thinks they own us. to get rid of this problem we need a civil war. and yes God would be fully on our side if we do but he wont be if we keep taking it up the ass all the time. God has no use for cowards.
commented 2016-05-15 13:34:43 -0400
And oddly enough, to everyone’s surprise and astonishment, our guns have never jumped out and hurt anyone. Even more amazing, none of our firearms has ever ended up in the hands of a criminal or used in the commission of a crime.
commented 2016-05-15 13:31:04 -0400
No problem Judy. Ours sits behind the door, loaded and ready for any of our well trained family members to use. Cougar, coyote, badger, wolverine, they don’t wait for you get to find your key, open the safe, unlock trigger, unlock ammo, load, come back upstairs, and aim. Bureaucrats seem to think these predators will wait for all that to happen.
commented 2016-05-15 13:13:48 -0400
D Mary…thanks for lightening the load!
commented 2016-05-15 13:11:14 -0400
Draconian! And yet many Canadians think the Americans are crazy having the ‘right to bear arms’ in their constitution.

There is no government, given absolute power, that is safe for the people it rules…some minor bureaucrats and first responders are the most evil of all because often they are more draconian than the intent of the laws they administer. This goes for any bureaucratic branch of government…the heart of each bureaucrat is the heart of our freedom…and when their hearts are rotten, so goes our nation. This man has seen what our freedom is worth to the government in power, if he does not receive full compensation and an apology for these employees who have overstepped the law…or made new laws up out of their heads.

This law-making by bureaucrats needs to be stopped because it strikes at the heart of democracy! BUREAUCRATS ARE NOT ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE and yet they are given the power to create laws upon laws until the rules for each branch become a mountain of red tape that is impossible to decipher and a net of power that cannot be escaped, even by the most law abiding citizens! Some bureaucrats act as though they are Nero, himself! I have seen this kind of thing happen on a smaller scale and some bureaucrats use their offices to hurt other people just because they can…that kind of ‘worker’ is sadistic and power hungry and they give the country a bad name…they should be fired and fined and frankly imprisoned for whatever sentence they viciously and cruelly put on the poor citizen. It is time for our government to take a stand on the ongoing “law-making” by ordinary citizens in government bureaucracies in order to satisfy their psychotic emotional need to bully others and push them around! Everyone knows such a case. They have become a cancer in our land!
commented 2016-05-15 13:06:54 -0400
No Keith, we rural citizens will have ours at the ready, because we use them regularly, they are tools we use all the time.
commented 2016-05-15 12:57:44 -0400
The only ones left with guns will be organized crime – and these are the organizations that are in partnership with Libranos – have been for decades.

Why is there such a mafia presence in Quebec??? Because libranos make it so.
commented 2016-05-15 12:54:20 -0400
Well said Dan.
It is about control and not safety of citizens at all. All of this gun control shit was started by Allan Rock after the shooting of students by a lunatic fringes (we should find out more about the lunatic) back in the early 2000’s,
The shooting took place in a college/university, the very incubator of socialist liberal ideology in this country.
Was the perpetrator a student with liberal beliefs?
Perhaps he was even a Muslim which would not have stood out at the time since we heard little about Muslims atrocities.

In any event, it is state control . . . Germany had state control as well. The thugs owned the guns and the citizens suffered.

DJBT!
commented 2016-05-15 12:53:38 -0400
Just as this is a test of what they can get away with, so was the High River illegal gun theft, another test.
Jay Kelly, if I own the gun, I will do whatever I please to the serial number. It is a tool, it is used regularly to deal with predators on my property, or to put food on the table, never for a crime.
“…from my cold dead hands…”
commented 2016-05-15 12:36:00 -0400
ROBERT RAYMOND;
In regard to the context of your comment, the timing of the ‘Census’ is very interesting – they now have the latest updated info about where everybody lives in Canada…and combined with the long gun registry that Stephen Harper’s Conservatives had already expunged from our country…I expect those jack-booted thug hirelings of Justin’s to be kicking my down down anytime now – whether it’s for being a hated gun owner or a despised challenger of the liberal’s New Orthodoxy…
That ‘safe storage’ BS though…I’d never get my self defense tools deployed in time:
The sound of your door being kicked in sends you after a means of self defence, so, you first have to find the key to the gun safe, unlock the safe, grab a gun, find the key for the trigger lock, unlock the gun, find the locked ammo boxes, find the key to the locked ammo boxes, unlock the ammo box, charge a magazine or otherwise load the gun…sorry your door has already been kicked in and the bad guys – whatever they are wearing – have already killed you and done what they will to your family and home…
As a LEGAL firearms owner, when you sign your name to that PAL application you sign away your basic rights, at that point you have just allowed ‘the police’, who represent the state, to enter your home anytime they like – without a warrant – and check your safe storage compliance – and you had better be in strict compliance or you are royally f**ked!
Gun control has very little to do with guns and everything to do with CONTROL
commented 2016-05-15 12:16:00 -0400
Bill Elder said: “Gun owners are just the canary in the coal mine – soon (from the UN agenda 21 pogroms forming in Ontario and Ottawa) they will be coming for your cars (free mobility taxed and regulated out of existence), your homes (if they don’t meet agenda 21 regulatory standards they will be forfeit) and certainly your private property ( none of these laws can be installed without full contempt for private property rights).”

Look up apodments……UN agenda 21 practice of forcing people from their homes into 8 by 8 cubicles stacked upon each other. This is what our masters have in mind for all of us. And don’t forget to be a good citizen and work and pay taxes! And pay exorbitant rent as well……….!
commented 2016-05-15 11:55:59 -0400
Robert Raymond – absolutely – there are parallels between all political tyrannies. Essentially these tyrannies run pogroms against a sub culture or group which has fallen from political acceptability – political correctness.

Our leftist governing cabals run political pogroms against those who are not in politically entitled groups – lawful firearms owners, hunters, rural people, farmers, land owners, white males, Christians, social conservatives – all are being persecuted at one level or another with full media and government sanction – only a matter of time until the persecution is codified like was done with firearms owners.

Gun owners are just the canary in the coal mine – soon (from the UN agenda 21 pogroms forming in Ontario and Ottawa) they will be coming for your cars (free mobility taxed and regulated out of existence), your homes (if they don’t meet agenda 21 regulatory standards they will be forfeit) and certainly your private property ( none of these laws can be installed without full contempt for private property rights).

The Montagues are just the test run for what’s coming.
commented 2016-05-15 11:30:58 -0400
These tactics closely resemble, if not a carbon copy, of the tactics used by the Nazi regime prior to World War Two.
If you did not toe the party line, if you were Jewish, if you were gay or any type of dissident, then your property was confiscated and if you were lucky, you were shot on sight. Otherwise, you were sent to concentration camps there to meet your fate after all forms of torture and enslavement.
Canada has very few vacant prison cells presently since they are filled with petty crooks and people who were caught speeding and could not pay the fines imposed.
So we have a dilemma, where do we put all the new fire arm criminals?
Ah, the solution is to execute them!
I’d now like to know when will we be forced to say “Heil Trudeau!”
Resistance is futile since they know exactly where you live, what you do, what you own and what your allegiances are.
The boys who gave their lives fighting for us in the past must be spinning in their graves!

DJBT!