April 02, 2016

Don't believe Liberals' myths about how much “privately sponsored” refugees will REALLY cost Canadians

Lauren SouthernRebel Commentator

Canadian Immigration Minister John McCallum has set a goal to allow 17,800 “privately sponsored” refugees into Canada in 2016. With this provision, the government of Canada has made plans to resettle 55,000 refugees by the end of 2016.

The phrase “private sponsorship” implies that private finance is responsible for their expenses, right? Wrong. The government would like you to believe that “privately sponsored” refugees don’t drain your wallet. But that couldn’t be further from the truth.

First, refugee sponsors are only required to pay for the room, board, and personal expenses of the refugees they sponsor, and only for a period of up to one year. They aren’t expected to cover the costs of any government services the refugees use, nor are they expected to cover any long-term dependencies of refugees on our government.

Refugee sponsors are expected to fund a small part of a refugee’s expenses for a small part of the time they spend as Canadian residents. Under the Joint Assistance Sponsorship Program, “privately sponsored” refugees can even receive direct government funding for their living expenses while they are being sponsored.

Secondly, the dependency of the typical refugee stretches well beyond their sponsorship period. Recent immigrants to Canada take an average of $6051 more from the government per year than they provide. For dispossessed refugees without any history in Canada, that number is likely to be even higher.  Low-income, low-education people consume the lion’s share of Canadian social assistance, and refugees are no exception.

Refugees are entitled to the same services as other residents of Canada, plus much more. Refugees are given unbridled access to our healthcare system, welfare system and social insurance.

Refugees are entitled to resettlement-specific services as well, including language services, integration services, and subsidized housing.

Refugees are even entitled to low-interest loans through Immigration Canada, loans which can be renegotiated if they have “hardships”.

Past the first year, refugees will be directly dependent on the federal government. The concept of “sponsorship” serves as a mask to hide the reality of sponsored refugees--they’re a massive toll on taxpayers, just like the refugees that are financed wholly by the government.

Lastly, refugees are encouraged to exploit every government service they can. In the Canadian guide for privately sponsored refugees, refugee sponsors are encouraged to sign their refugees up for as many benefit programs as possible:


These government services include:

* Government funded language training

* Government healthcare, including assignment of a family dentist and doctor

* Schooling, including signing up for special care workers if needed (very likely due to the language barrier)

* Child care arrangements (likely government-subsidized daycare)

* Social Insurance and applying for a SIN card (and all its benefits)

These refugees are given every incentive to live the rest of their lives dependent on government benefits. Twelve months of sponsorship is a drop in the bucket. The amount of government services these “privately sponsored” refugees consume is astounding.

For some idea of exactly how much our generosity is costing us, we should look to the American experience with Middle Eastern refugees. A report by the Center for Immigration Studies has estimated that Middle Eastern refugees cost the American government $64,370 USD over the first five years of their residencies. The per-household cost of a refugee family was calculated to be a staggering $257,481 USD over that same period.

Without hard data for Canada, it would be tempting to transpose this figure on to Canada and suggest that our refugees would cost about as much. But refugees to Canada are entitled to an even broader range of services than those in the United States.

Therefore, the cost to Canadians is likely to be even higher.

One year of living expenses is nothing relative to the long-term costs that refugees pose. There’s a limited amount of research on the costs of refugees (I wonder why), but all available information suggests these “privately sponsored” refugees might as well just be called “government sponsored” refugees.

I’m sorry, John McCallum, but characterizing this charade as “private sponsorship” is dangerously irresponsible. “Private sponsorship” of Syrian refugees is a PR-motivated program that allows the government to maintain a facade of fiscal responsibility.



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commented 2016-04-18 14:13:34 -0400
Why on earth did all those people who wanted “weed” to be made legal, think this would make a great leader. Trudeau has bungled so many things. Trudeau has opened a huge black hole and it is being filled with lots of money for those takers who want to live off the system. While we who work pay for their free ride. It is time for Canadians to say enough is enough…………….

I look at , children trying to commit suicide in one of the Indian villages.. I suspect that some hanky panky is going one and that elders of that village are responsible for these made up suicide attempts.. I believe this was staged and that it is a way to draw attention to get more money from the government and to get sympathy from Canadians. Trudeau opened up a can of worms and this will go on and on to maintain sympathy and money from Canadians.
Canadians need to wake up to what Trudeau is doing to this country.
Trudeau is also responsible for stopping the media from reporting the truth to Canadians pertaining to crime being committed by Muslim refugees.
commented 2016-04-05 14:30:26 -0400
According to David Trembley there are only about 100,000 Muslim terrorists in the world.

Even if this low number is true, that is 100,000 too many and some are bound to make it into Canada.

All it takes is one of them to successfully blow themselves up and kill tens, hundreds or even thousands of Canadians. Even one Canadian death due to Islamic terrorism is too many.
commented 2016-04-05 12:26:04 -0400
I was walking my dog on Sunday, and noticed that some pig took a big poop on a fence, just outside of a children’s park. My daughter was walking with me, and I told her this is what the new rapefugees are bringing to Canada. Even animals know better than to poop in their own nest. I’ve lived in Calgary for 40-years, and I’ve never seen anything like that!
commented 2016-04-04 15:59:36 -0400
The value of 55,000 Liberal Voters? Priceless.
commented 2016-04-04 15:18:40 -0400
How do the following groups mesh or clash:

pedophile muslims and pedophile NDP Alberta government infidels

I’m sure these crazy kids will come to some kind of agreement as long as pedophilia can continue.
commented 2016-04-04 10:47:00 -0400
commented 2016-04-03 23:00:06 -0400
David Tremblay
“Right now there are fewer than one hundred thousand extremist muslims in the world out of almost 1.6 billion muslims. How about focusing on the crazy ones and not waste your time with the ones who are peaceful. "
Even by conservative Muslim numbers if the number of extremist fundamentalists that hate the West was only 1% .That would mean there are 16 million extremist Muslims. Where did you get the number one hundred thousand ? Probably pulled it out your butt no doubt . and if you can tell the difference between peaceful Muslims and extremists before they pull the trigger , please let the world know.
If you’re not an Islamaphobe , you’re not paying attention.
commented 2016-04-03 22:49:18 -0400
Ron C if money is so bad then quit taking it from us loser. And we do not want terrorists here , you love them so much you go see them over there loser.
commented 2016-04-03 22:46:24 -0400
David tremblay that is utter BS, which groups have threatened to destroy us before they came here in huge numbers?
commented 2016-04-03 22:44:15 -0400
Ronny Christensen

You are getting more pathetic all the time Ronny. You tried and tried and wasted all of that effort and it just didn’t amount to anything more than zero. Story of your pathetic existence Ronny, total sum of zero. I see your anger and hate increase by the week now and it is only going to end one way Ronny. You need to stop now or it’s going to be too late for you. Time for a pizza pocket and then sleep, tomorrow is another troll day. Good night loser!
commented 2016-04-03 21:54:18 -0400
‘Not one in here I see of all the regular hate spewers has any idea’
Very objective rant. Thank you for your totally open minded, so well thought out , and intellectual assessment of the posters on this site. Objective, Objective, Objective…I’m sold.
Off to the men’s store to buy some funky socks and then to the CBC comment section. Thank you so much for enlightening me on how to be Objective. Next election I will vote liberal, then I can say ‘Hey, I’m objective and can talk down on anybody else who’s views do not align with mine’. I’ll be so smart, I’ll change my name to Hockey Puck
commented 2016-04-03 21:43:48 -0400
Sorry, last line should read “The libs of course!”
commented 2016-04-03 21:39:41 -0400
The right is only concerned with money . . . seems the liberals are not concerned with money as they just voted themselves a healthy raise . . . some honest citizens need to hold down 2 & 3 jobs to make ends meet.
So who is morally superior? The limbs are of course! As per Christensen.
commented 2016-04-03 21:32:38 -0400
The definition of a conservative (a right wing con) is a person who cannot recognize anyone or anything that differs from him/herself. Sad state of affairs when “the morally superior” speak. When it comes to climate change and conservation, they are nowhere to be found. Why? Because it is all about money to them. Money. Right wing nutters are so completely readable. If if doesn’t sit with their mindset, t must be wrong or dangerous. Not one in here I see of all the regular hate spewers has any idea what it means to look objectively at anything. Objectivity is absent with this croud and so is reasoned argument and that is why it isn’t worth it. I’d rather just call you all idiots. It is more fun. Vote liberal!
commented 2016-04-03 21:21:47 -0400
A friend of mine works for the Alberta Housing Authority , a government funded agency that provides subsidized housing for low income seniors – people who worked and paid taxes all their working lives. The stipulation for much of the housing is a requirement for at least 1 year of residence in Alberta and 10 years in Canada. She told me they are inundated daily by “private sponsors” trying to arrange housing for this mass influx of Syrian asylum seekers . Apparently when told they have to meet certain requirements , some of the private sponsors will argue with them thinking if they complain without stopping the AHA will break down and give their welfare recipients a tax subsidized place. She said it is wearing on them because these people won’t take no for an answer.
commented 2016-04-03 19:54:53 -0400
Speaking of “privately sponsored” refugees, has anyone wondered just who these private sponsors are? There is evidence that many “refugees” are being sponsored by extremist groups affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood. The most prominent such group, which is proudly admitting that they’re sponsoring these invaders, is the Muslim Association of Canada, along with Masjid Toronto. MAC openly admits their affiliation with the Muslim Brotherhood. Is the government keeping track of the affiliations of these “private sponsors”? If they are, they sure won’t be telling the Canadian public about it. People need to be deeply concerned about radicalization of these invaders, when they’re being sponsored to enter this country by Islamist extremist and pro-terrorist groups. Here’s an article with more details:
commented 2016-04-03 18:18:43 -0400
Well, I guess if Ronnie Christensen and Davie Trembley are okay will unrestricted & open borders and the Canadian tax payer to pay their bills for the rest of their lives, who are we mere right wingers to argue with these two intellectual giants? I mean, they obviously know everything ’cuz they are so smart!
commented 2016-04-03 18:12:37 -0400
David Trembley said, “Canada takes in almost 300,000 refugees/immigrants every year and every year since Canada existed there have been people screaming that they will destroy our way of life and guess what…it has not happened!!”

People, here is a classic case of stupidity.

Ron Christensen said to Bill Elder, “Not in the best interest of Canadians? What is in the interest of your “old stock Canadian” ass? Speak for yourself you racist baffoon.”

Wow! How can you argue with a rebuttal like that from the “genius” of the socialists.

The Ron Christensen said to Bravo Zulu, “fucking idiot”

There you are, people, IQ in the 6000 range, this one!

The socialist “intellects” are shining today!
commented 2016-04-03 18:06:00 -0400
Please take a breath and a break from personal attacks and explain to everyone your personal experience and costs incurred when you sponsored a family. Let us know how it’s worked for you and what you are doing to help them integrate into their new country. Or are you teaching your sponsored family how they should fight to make us conform to their needs ? Dunno, you seem angry and confused for some reason. Depressed because you’re a white male and the CBC crowd told you are privileged and therefore need guilt ? Sad life buddy. Be happy, the current government will have euthanasia available soon.
commented 2016-04-03 15:45:50 -0400
To Ron C.

Hey Ron, you are a complete imbecile. You can’t even put your own thoughts down, you copy and paste someone else’s comments and make a one line comment. You have no arguments save those that a mouthpiece such as yourself regurgitates for his masters, the liberal Muslims.
commented 2016-04-03 14:37:02 -0400
Hi Ronnie – sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me.

In fact if I have offended you and did not give you a trigger warning before you went into your safe spot – I do not apologize. After all you do not have the knowledge I do – and you of course collect your welfare cheque on a regular basis – while I actually work for a living.

Hope you had a great weekend and this week is even better.

commented 2016-04-03 13:35:01 -0400
BRAVO ZULU commented 20 hours ago
In the end the taxpayer will be covering this cost for at least one full generation and in many cases more.

Welfare recipients and many of them disease laden.

All free to them while we pay.

And dealing with their attitude that we owe them to convert to their cult.

Nothing good ever comes from inviting islamics into your home.



fucking idiot
commented 2016-04-03 13:33:27 -0400
BILL ELDER commented 2 hours ago
I think we have seen and heard enough from the immigration officials testifying in parliament that we can stop using the Trudeau propaganda term for this fast-tracked immigration from the middle east – these are NOT refugees as per the UN convention definition – nor are the numbers accepted realistic or sustainable. – these are government placed welfare-dependant ECONOMIC MIGRANTS.

We should call them this until it sinks in to the general public that this Librano agenda has nothing to do with refugees or in the best interest of Canadians.

Not in the best interest of Canadians? What is in the interest of your “old stock Canadian” ass? Speak for yourself you racist baffoon.
commented 2016-04-03 13:01:23 -0400
David Tremblay you are living in an alternate universe if you believe that. These refugees have nothing in common with others we have brought here in the past. The time lines were different, the numbers were different, the compatibility factor was different, the assistance upon arrival was different, the vetting was different, the expectation for assimilation was different.

Everything you have just said is meant to allay fears long enough for the deed to be done. When its too late and the numbers defy logic and tilt the axis of this country beyond recognition, it will be obvious to even the most ardent bleeding heart. It won’t matter by then. That is the plan that is under way. That is the plan that I rail against. There may be truly ‘peaceful’ ones, however it usually gets them killed. Until it is reformed back into a religion from the political ideology it has morphed into (which may take a century?) there are only deadly followers of Allah and complicit Muslims by virtue of their silence. And that’s giving some credit, because who do you think the quiet ones will side with when the numbers dictate more brazen demands from the west?
commented 2016-04-03 12:57:00 -0400
Another thing David T,

How many of these so-called refugees are settling in la Belle Province? Not many since your idiot province requires that they must speak French. Let’s make a deal, instead of giving your province equalization money from Alberta, why don’t you tell your separatist government that you want the money to go towards helping the refugees?
commented 2016-04-03 12:53:17 -0400
David Tremblay, a good French Canadian name.
I assume your father and grandfather probably ran to the bush during the war years.

Reading between the lines, you are a product of the university system in Quebec, are a closet separatist and probably an atheist or worse, a Muslim.

You know nothing of what Canada is since you never crossed the Ontario Quebec border or the New Brunswick Quebec border. You have travelled extensively throughout Europe and Florida.

You are probably a civil servant living off the taxpayer (like a parasite) or a intellectual professor with a degree in liberal arts teaching young children how to be assimilated by Muslims.

Your idols are P.E. Trudeau, Jacques Parizeau and Rene Levesque.

The only numbers you believe in is 50% + 1.

So why don’t you give your head a shake and crawl back under your rock?
commented 2016-04-03 12:29:20 -0400
Canada takes in almost 300,000 refugees/immigrants every year and every year since Canada existed there have been people screaming that they will destroy our way of life and guess what…it has not happened!! We continue to be one of the best places to live in the world. These new refugees will not cost us any more than the tax breaks Harper gave to his rich friends. Harper and Mulroney combined, are responsible for over 75% of our accumulated debt. Every time someone blames muslims for all of our problems, it is directly helping ISIS. Right now there are fewer than one hundred thousand extremist muslims in the world out of almost 1.6 billion muslims. How about focusing on the crazy ones and not waste your time with the ones who are peaceful.
commented 2016-04-03 12:29:17 -0400
These requirements are based on the fact from over 30 years ago that refugees to Canada become self-sufficient within one year of arrival. Times and stats have changed over the years – to the detriment of Canadians and refugees.