June 19, 2015

These "weird" comments show Notley knows nothing about Alberta's energy industry

Rebel Staff
 

Based on remarks she's made in the legislature, Rachel Notley, the new NDP premier of Alberta, clearly doesn't know much about her province's oil and gas industry.

Notely doesn't have the basic facts straight about the province's biggest business, and in some cases she contradicts herself. It's so weird.

Take a listen. Her comments don't make sense -- until you realize who's feeding her her information: Outsider, anti-oil cackpots like Brian Topp and Graham Mitchell.

(Photo: TIME)



Anti-oil lobbyist Graham Mitchell doesn't belong in Alberta's Ministry of Energy.
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READ Ezra Levant's bestselling books debunking environmentalist propaganda against the energy industry:

Groundswell: The Case for Fracking
Ethical Oil: The Case for Canada's Oil Sands

 

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commented 2015-06-24 06:16:36 -0400
Whose lives or “ends”, as you put it, must be sacrificed to serve what in your mind constitutes “real change for the better”, huh Jimmy? Yours? Probably not.
If you want change, make it happen yourself. Don’t force your idealistic, holier-than-thou opinions on others. More often than not, change happens gradually, but constantly, over long periods of time. Evolution, scientific paradigm shifts, and climate, among numerous other examples, have all progressed in this fashion, and human innovation has generally been able to keep up so far. No one had to ban oil lamps or outhouses when indoor electricity and plumbing became commercially available. I similarly don’t recall needing a prohibition over the horse and buggy for motor vehicles to make them practically extinct. On the whole, humanity seems to be coping pretty well, and I would challenge you to prove otherwise.
So, if you really believe that it’s do or die time, let’s see you volunteer to be a hero at the expense of your selfish interests, up to and including being prepared to sacrifice your life and livelihood. If not, go wave your little “viva la revolution” flag and sell crazy somewhere else.
commented 2015-06-22 22:37:14 -0400
This is crazy. The East has as much Oil or Natural Gas as the West. Politics and Posterity aside—-What is the end Game.
commented 2015-06-21 21:00:24 -0400
It’s obvious that Notley does not engage her brain before she opens her mouth. So, she’s going to dictate to the US now about shipping refined oil versus crude which is what they want? Why would they want it refined since they have the facilities to do it & much cheaper. So while these refineries are being built in Canada what happens to the oil companies? They wait & twiddle their thumbs until they can get going again. Absurd! I hope the oil companies stick together & do not allow this to happen. As for her husband lobbying her to raise the minimum wage that’s pretty pretty far out & a conflict of interest. Oh boy! The fun has just begun.
commented 2015-06-21 13:34:43 -0400
Nothing nutty about building more refinery capacity or building value-added industry – just don’t use public money to do it
commented 2015-06-21 10:12:13 -0400
No Erin, that’s how the real world works. To make real change for the better, unfortunate sacrifices often have to made and this happens every single day. And sometimes, you don’t have the luxury for gradual shifts – it’s do or die.
commented 2015-06-21 09:37:41 -0400
Your point acknowledged and realized Peter.
commented 2015-06-21 09:20:55 -0400
Exactly right, Robert.

Building refineries in Alberta will not happen because of the expense and because there are no distribution supply chains in land locked Alberta. I addition, even the New Brunswick’s refinery only processes oil for the population in the surrounding area.
commented 2015-06-21 08:36:54 -0400
Jim Alseth : There three major refining hubs around the world. They are the market place for oil. They have the refining capacity and the the distribution supply chains. They don’t want refined oil, they want feedstock for their refineries. The gulf coast of Texas and Louisiana is the largest refining hub in the world, and they specialize in refining heavy oil. Canada refines it’s own oil, for domestic consumption but has no distribution market outside of that. No one is going to spend hundreds of billions of dollars to refine and then do what with it. It’s just not going to happen in the real world.
commented 2015-06-21 08:32:06 -0400
I should spell check before I post. :)
commented 2015-06-21 08:31:18 -0400
Jim, maybe you differentiate between those Albertans who voted NDP (of which I doubt there are any that post here on this sit) and those Albertans who did not vote NDP. Because posting a comment like that here is, well, posting to the wrong crown. I am fairly sure no Albertan on this site voted for the NDP.
commented 2015-06-21 08:09:20 -0400
You got what you voted for and you deserve what you got, shut up and suffer. Cutting off your nose to spite your face was a very juvenile thing to do, what did you expect from a bunch of incompetent idiots that have never run anything in their lives? Prentice was as bad as they come as a Conservative, but you aint seen nothin yet. Not thinking of the future of your children and grand children was about as dumb as it gets. Hope you all can learn how to spell Saskatchewan because your kids are about to start moving away.
commented 2015-06-21 06:07:38 -0400
Jimmy da Silva said: “A major change sometimes requires that you rip the Band-Aid off and yes, there will be casualties – people who lose their jobs, but that price needs to be paid for the greater good of that change. The end will justify the means. Gradual shifts often result in nothing actually changing.”
That sounds like something a psychopath would say, subordinating the rights of others to your own “noble” desires.
Also, Jimmy is obviously unaware that there is no need to continue harvesting embryonic stem cells, since adult and umbilical cord stem cell research has proven to be vastly superior, more effective at treating injury and disease, and less costly than using embryonic stem cells.
commented 2015-06-20 23:42:06 -0400
Rick,

The “Einsteins” as you say are going to be bringing the world stem cell cures from the unborn. Do you not want there to be a world where spinal cord injury, Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease or other neurological problems area are a thing of the past?
commented 2015-06-20 22:28:52 -0400
Chinese bankers want to build a refinery on the west coast fed by the northern gateway pipeline. Their logic being that if there was a spill that it would evaporate. It was brought to the BC government by Canadian business men but was shot down immediately, push back from the enviros make building refinerys in Canada impossible
commented 2015-06-20 22:21:11 -0400
There is more than just cost to the building of the refineries to take into consideration.

There is a reason that refineries are built near heavily populated areas. Each refinery produces more than one product from the oil and all of them must be shipped out. To build refineries in Alberta where there is low population and long distances to high population areas is not economically viable, not to mention quite inefficient.
commented 2015-06-20 21:44:22 -0400
There hasn’t been a refinery built in Canada snice the 80’s,so not just a Conservative problem. There haven’t been any built in the States since before that, and they still have more refining infrastructure than we have. Sad but true, look it up.
commented 2015-06-20 21:40:40 -0400
I know, I was particularly cranky Jim A.

My logic is that, as nice as refining here would be, the U.S. has us way outnumbered as far as refineries go. To refine heavy crude from our oil sands is expensive, more so than to refine sweet crude. We can’t compete against the numbers of refineries in the U.S. and refining heavy crude is cost prohibitive. Others can refine it cheaper, which is why they want it raw, it is cheaper for them. Someone else said if it were market viable it would have happened by now, and I believe that is exactly right. Just because it makes sense on some levels doesn’t mean it makes sense on all levels. It is a formula, and the formula for refining here does not work.
commented 2015-06-20 21:08:57 -0400
To Liza, who could only reply with rhetoric and sophistry, another thought from one of the 3 amigos….(-:

Why couldn’t the PCs get a simple idea like refining the product here first? Because they were too busy pork-barreling to outside interests like the Koch Brothers, just like Stephen Harper has been doing to Canada with the foreign multi-nationals (eg. Canada-China FIPA agreement).

Someone suggested the reason we don’t refine here is because we don’t have the infrastructure. Really? One of the largest oil-producing localities in the world doesn’t have the wherewithal to refine it’s own product? Give me a break. If that is true, then it just highlights the PCs abysmal mismanagement, and why they are now OUT

Like I said, on this subject at least, Ezra should stick to gardening or find something useful to do…
commented 2015-06-20 20:39:38 -0400
What brand of beer, Bill? I’ll bring over the pretzels! :)
commented 2015-06-20 18:57:37 -0400
Beer, popcorn, arm chair, all set – I’m ready to witness the gigantic clown show in Edmonton.
commented 2015-06-20 18:03:15 -0400
Rick Plesnik : there are no alternatives. Energy either exists or it doesn’t. Notely isn’t the only one who doesn’t know anything about oil.
commented 2015-06-20 14:42:52 -0400
“but there will be a time when countries move away from oil and we will no longer rely on it.” Hurrah for that. We’re not there yet as our technical level has not developed sufficiently to make alternative sources viable and widely available.” As an addendum. If we weren’t killing the unborn, perhaps the “Einsteins” of our time may have moved us closer to an oil free world by now. Alas, we will never know.
commented 2015-06-20 14:41:07 -0400
The transformation of the NDP from a deluded socialist party to an even more deluded anti-industrial, pro-third-world-standard-of-living party is almost enough to make you wish they were still a real socialist party that simply wanted public ownership of the means of production and distribution. But of course, once the means of production and distribution have been done away with by the even more deluded greens who now seem to be in control of the even more deluded NDP, the question of who owns the means of production and distribution becomes essentially moot. What difference does it make who owns a useless non-industrial agrarian economy? Let’s have the deluded socialists back. They were easier to beat anyway.
commented 2015-06-20 14:17:07 -0400
Jimmy said: “Oh the irony. Hey don’t blame me that Alberta wasn’t happy with your precious conservatives.” Correction. “Progressive” Conservatives. Otherwise known as “Liberal Lite” or Dipper “Shadow”. Not true Conservatives in the sense of “Conserve”, a basic Conservative Principle. They became arrogant and entitled. The voters punished them for that. I have lived in two provinces where the NDP ruled. In each case, the economies were destroyed and they were subsequently thrown out for much the same reasons I just pointed out previously. Time will tell if the Dippers have learned anything from these failures. I get the concern however, based on some of the comments made by the new NDP Gov’t in Alberta. Jimmy also said: “I know this will scare people to death here – but there will be a time when countries move away from oil and we will no longer rely on it.” Hurrah for that. We’re not there yet as our technical level has not developed sufficiently to make alternative sources viable and widely available. In the meantime, it makes little sense to destroy economies/countries for rabid idealology.
commented 2015-06-20 12:34:50 -0400
Oh ya like when Klein trimmed the fat in Alberta and we were in the black and some people lost their jobs but the rest like 90% of albertans prospered on $35 a barrel oil, ya I get it Jimmy.
commented 2015-06-20 12:03:55 -0400
“A major change sometimes requires that you rip the Band-Aid off”

In some cases, especially when throwing off the yoke of a communist regime, as an example, but not in this case. It is entirely possible to shift the economy.

In any case, oils cannot be completely eliminated because there are too many things that are created using oil.

“The end will justify the means. "

I disagree with that statement. The manner of transformation is as important as the end, but that is a discussion all unto itself.

“Gradual shifts often result in nothing actually changing.”

Once again, I disagree.
commented 2015-06-20 11:43:03 -0400
Peter,

A major change sometimes requires that you rip the Band-Aid off and yes, there will be casualties – people who lose their jobs, but that price needs to be paid for the greater good of that change. The end will justify the means. Gradual shifts often result in nothing actually changing.
commented 2015-06-20 11:29:30 -0400
Jimmy claimed, “I know this will scare people to death here – but there will be a time when countries move away from oil and we will no longer rely on it.”

Well then what you know, is wrong. The Albertans I know have no problem with alternate energy sources, they just don’t want their jobs to be ripped away from them. The Albertans I know would like to see Alberta diversify into a wide range of economic platforms, but gradually in a organized shift from one type of technology to the other without the “destroy the economy because we hate oil” approach of the NDP.

A gradual shift, Jimmy, a gradual shift. That is the key.
commented 2015-06-20 11:17:25 -0400
Please be specific Jimmy,“Many of the things you mentioned can be run without oil”
Like what Jimmy?