February 22, 2016

Turkey cooperating with the Islamic State at many levels

Victor LaszloRebel Commentator
 

Wiretapped telephone calls between a leading figure from the Islamic State and several members of the Turkish military reveal cooperation between ISIL and the Turkish military in letting smugglers cross the Turkey-Syria border.

The above link is only the most recent published story, this time from Turkish media, suggesting a close relationship between the Erdogan regime in Turkey, a NATO ally, and the Islamic State. 

Not that long ago, shortly after the Turks shot down a Russian jet allegedly overflying Turkish airspace, the Russians presented taped phone calls indicating large scale financial deals between Erdogan, the Turkish leader's son, and significant authorities within the Islamic State for large scale oil transactions.

Here is footage of oil tankers from the IS entering Turkey.

Below, a Russian news video exposing connections between Bilal Erdogan, the son of the Turkish president, and Islamic State leaders.

 Lastly, linked here is a video released by a major Turkish News agency, Hurriyenet News, of the Turkish intelligence agency FSB, secretly sending large volumes of weapons and ammunition to Islamic State jihadis. The Journalists who wrote this story have been subsequently arrested. 

That update is also in the above linked story. 

One wonders at what point would NATO consider Turkey to actually be on the other side of this conflict. 

 

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commented 2016-04-26 02:23:59 -0400
Well, it’s time for all the western nations of the earth to merge with the Holy Russian Fenderation then isn’t it?
commented 2016-02-24 01:25:14 -0500
Not sure if Russia can defeat Turkey without using nukes (and if it decides to use nukes it’s gonna have much worse problems than Turkey). This is the reason why both officials and Russian media talk about their almighty nukes so much. If I remember correctly, Turkey has the most powerful military in Europe. Also Turkey doesn’t have economic problems that Russia has.

Looks like we’ll find out soon.
commented 2016-02-24 00:10:38 -0500
@ Drew Wakariuk commented 7 hours ago
Kick Turkey out, i hate Russia in the Ukraine , but Putin can do as he pleases to Turkey, they are a threat to Russia and North America both. No matter what chocolate Jesus and the brainless trust fund baby say.
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Turks and Russians hate each other

I say let them have at – it will be good for the Russians to win one and it will be good for us to lose this one.
commented 2016-02-23 17:31:17 -0500
Kick Turkey out, i hate Russia in the Ukraine , but Putin can do as he pleases to Turkey, they are a threat to Russia and North America both. No matter what chocolate Jesus and the brainless trust fund baby say.
commented 2016-02-23 13:33:20 -0500
Turkey – evil islamic state that belongs to NATO

Time to give them the toe.
commented 2016-02-23 13:13:08 -0500
LIZA ROSIE, same thing generally happens after tyrants fall. It happened in Iraq, it happened in Libya, it will sooner or later still happen in Syria because Assad is definitely not immortal. The longer tyrant is in power, the worse the consequences that come after the fall of the regime.

FRANCIS MARION, I generally agree with you, but the crucial difference between Obama, Trudeau and Putin is what civilization and what kind of society they represent. Another crucial difference is how they came to the power and what they did to their people and countries while being in power.
commented 2016-02-23 13:02:29 -0500
Clarification on last sentence in my last post, it should read “…..many sources are reporting what Turkey is doing, and how ISIS funds itself.”

Valerity, you said, “So far whole NATO is so afraid of even thinking of war with Russia, they are literally worried to make a move, and this only encourages Putin for further aggression.”

Thats why I would be surprised if any NATO allies were happy about Turkey making aggressive/defensive moves towards Russia, or gave them a prior go ahead. When you said you thought they had prior blessing, thats what sounded contradictory to me.
commented 2016-02-23 12:42:50 -0500
I think Putin is everything Valerity says he is, and I wouldn’t want to live under his rule. I also don’t think Assad is any different, maybe worse. However, had Assad been taken out when he crossed the red line that coward Obambie threatened him with and didn’t act on, what would have filled that vacuum? What would that have meant for any minority group in Syria. I think it would have been mass extermination, and a strengthening of the Islamic State.

‘Blame’, I wouldn’t know who or how many bad actors to blame. I’m just looking at what stands before me. I agree with Francis, there are no good guys in this, only survivors. I want to be a survivor. Turkey looks like trouble to me, and as Francis pointed out many sources are reporting what Turkey is doing, and how ISIS is funding their evil.
commented 2016-02-23 10:14:32 -0500
Liza writes:

“I was wondering the same thing Valerity. Its hard to take any news out of Russia with out wondering about its validity, but this time it makes sense. "

A variety of news sources have been reporting on this and other events in Turkey – namely the trading of oil between ISIS and Turkey.

The truth is there isn’t any media, gov’t etc. that can be trusted anymore. I wouldn’t trust Putin and further than I could throw PM Zoolander or Obummer. They are all corrupt. There are no good guys anymore – just varying degrees of stupidity, greed and malice.
commented 2016-02-23 08:00:45 -0500
Jerry Crossman… When you make a statement and give “facts” to support your argument then you may want to put a link to it because I just checked the Globes Israel Business News and there are no articles in there about Israel buying oil from ISIS. When a statement is made back it up with a link so people can check that out and come to their own conclusion, when you leave no link then I believe you just want people to believe what you said. That is what socialists do but as a conservative I always fact check what is written anywhere because there is so much false information out there and I like to be informed of facts and not “I think” or “I feel” or any other emotion as they have no part in facts. Terrorists are trying to “cleanse” the area from all Israeli people and you want people to believe they are intentionally (key word) buying oil from the very people that want them destroyed and wiped off the planet, think about that.
commented 2016-02-23 06:57:04 -0500
I just read an article that says most of that oil goes to isreal how’s that for you Ezra ?? It was published by globes isreal business news look it up
commented 2016-02-23 03:28:52 -0500
HO HUM, “Assad is not the bad guy and neither is Putin.”
Stalin and Mao were not bad guys either, right? They just opposed to bloody capitalists, comrade.

There is definitely something in common between Assad and Putin – they both understand that their only way to survive is to be in power forever, otherwise they will end up like Qaddafi. They will do everything they can to survive and population of their countries is just their living shield.
commented 2016-02-23 03:22:19 -0500
DARYL HERMAN, it’s up to you to decide, my friend. The facts I provide without clear mentioning that it’s just my opinion are easy to check if you’re not banned from Google and other search engines. (I probably mention Google often enough to be considered Google agent).

LIZA ROSIE, regarding your words “The first and last part of your post Valerity, seem to contradict each other, if I am reading it correctly.” – I think that it’s US that is contradicting itself because it’s not just represented by Obama and his administration, but also other influential politics and military leaders who don’t appear on TV but affect US actions.

Generally the whole picture of war in Syria reminds me of a cancer that was clearly seen on stage 1, but not treated until stage 4 when it’s too late. It’s good to be pacifist, be “concerned” about violence and encourage all parties to negotiate their positions. However sometimes a properly targeted violence is the only way to avoid much worse and much less targeted violence. A proper military operation against Asad before ISIS even emerged would effectively solve many problems with WAY less people killed and displaced. But now the situation is out of control and is unpredictable. No need to blame Turkey in those problems, it all started much earlier.
commented 2016-02-23 01:53:32 -0500
Valeriy Polyakh – are you a Russian agent? Or a CIA schill?
commented 2016-02-23 01:51:36 -0500
No question our NATO “ally” Turkey has been supporting ISIS and they are doing so with the full knowledge and complicity of Barack Obama who has also aided and abetted Islamic terrorist groups inside Syria for the misguided purpose of toppling a secular leader – Assad. If Assad meets the same fate as Saddam Hussein and Qaddafi there about 2 million Syrian Christians who face extermination.

Our governments in the west have lied to us as to the true nature of the conflict in Syria. Assad is not the bad guy and neither is Putin.
commented 2016-02-23 01:49:04 -0500
It is well-known that Erdoğan intends to do accomplish two things …

Defeat the Kurds, who are a budding religious majority in Turkey

Crush Kurdish nationalist aspirations

Establish an Islamist state in Turkey

Thus far, it is known that Erdoğan has …

Used the conflict in Syria to carry out bombing missions against Kurdish areas in Syria and Turkey

Provided an extensive supply network to Islamist forces, including ISIS.

Has used Turkish cross-border artillery bombardments against Assad’s forces and the Russians.

And declared, a now aborted, operation that would have seen Turkish forces invade Syria and engage both the Kurds and the forces of the Assad. This operation has the endorsement of the Saudis as well. The operation was aborted because …

NATO warned Erdoğan that if the Russians strike back, he’s on his own.

Turkey’s military denounced the operation and threatened to overthrow Erdoğan.

And Saudi belligerence was exposed.
commented 2016-02-23 01:31:01 -0500
The first and last part of your post Valerity, seem to contradict each other, if I am reading it correctly.
commented 2016-02-23 01:26:55 -0500
Valeriy, I don’t know about this statement, " it’s highly doubtful that Turkey downed Russian jet without first making sure that US and the rest of NATO supports this action. Right after the incident many officials expressed full support for Turkey. " I think NATO allies would be pretty darn reticent to retaliate against Russia for Turkey, even if they are allies.

I agree with the rest of your comment about Russia.
commented 2016-02-23 01:21:16 -0500
I was wondering the same thing Valerity. Its hard to take any news out of Russia with out wondering about its validity, but this time it makes sense. Its true Turkey is buying and selling ISIS oil, not only Russia says that. The rest of the pieces fall into place after that one. I don’t know, but I tend to agree with Bravo Zulu, and first hand experience in the region. But I also respect your first hand experience with Russia, and agree they will say anything.
commented 2016-02-23 01:15:03 -0500
Liza Rosie, it’s highly doubtful that Turkey downed Russian jet without first making sure that US and the rest of NATO supports this action. Right after the incident many officials expressed full support for Turkey.

Russia is not fighting ISIS in Syria, their goal is to prove that Obama is weak, to flood EU with even more migrants, and only as their last goal to support Bashar Assad. So far whole NATO is so afraid of even thinking of war with Russia, they are literally worried to make a move, and this only encourages Putin for further aggression.
commented 2016-02-23 01:06:15 -0500
Sure, and when Russians downed Malaysian Airbus they provided proves for 3 or 4 completely different versions, all of which pointed to Ukraine. They even officially supported 2 mutually exclusive versions at the same time!

However, their proved turned out to be poorly photoshopped Google Maps or reports of Russian military engineers who would say whatever they are ordered to say.
Later Europeans made many tests fully proving that the only possible version was that Russia downed it, and proving all other versions wrong one by one. And that was just one of many cases when their blatant lies has been disclosed.

Same in this case – I wouldn’t just take proves that Russia provides, better wait for analysis from multiple respected parties. Russia has been lying way too much to be considered a respected source of information, especially information regarding their enemies.
commented 2016-02-23 00:32:21 -0500
Turkey – member of NATO

Turkey – islamic state

Turkey – kills Kurds

Turkey – sat on their arses and watched isis kill a bunch of Syrians in a border town – less than one mile from their position – that position had more than 30 tanks, several artillery pieces and lots of heavy weapons that could be brought to bear. They did nothing. When the Syrians came to the border to escape, the Turks would not let them in. I have seen the pics of this taken by someone I know well.

Turkey – a country with serious blood on its hands.

Kurds – allies to western forces (sort of but they killed one of our soldiers)

Turkey – buys isis oil and re-sells it

Turkey – Semi-friend to Israel

Turkey – Completely untrustworthy and often dishonorable. Worked with them on one deployment – we never turned our backs on them and never allowed them to bring their weapons inside the inner compound.

Turkey – IMO will try to draw NATO into war with Russia.

Turkey – will try to gain a little Syrian territory if they can.

Turkey is a dangerous and screwed up state – best to stay away from them.

All of the above has been broadcast on secondary internet media but never (to the best of my knowledge) on Canadian mainstream media.
commented 2016-02-22 23:56:26 -0500
So Turkey has been filling up with Sunni Muslims some percentage of which side with the Islamic State. The presidential family is in business with the Islamic State, hobnobbing with them. The Turkish ‘first’ lady has begun wearing a head covering, and Turkey is our ally. If Turkey pokes at Russia or Iran,and they retaliate against Turkey, the U.S. and other allies will have an obligation to defend Turkey. Is that what they were trying to do when they shot down that Russian plane?

Its getting pretty convoluted out there. It also makes me wonder if there are ANY minority migrants in Turkey at all , and if there are, how long will they be safe in an Islamic State, which Turkey is seeming to be leaning towards. Time to tidy up our alliances.
commented 2016-02-22 23:26:44 -0500
Once again The Rebel brings the truth to the world stage bravo Rebels