October 08, 2015

U of T’s “gender neutral” restrooms lead to voyeurism complaints

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Commentator
 

 Can we talk about gender neutral washrooms? Because we should.

Back in July, the University of Toronto decided to encourage gender tolerance in change rooms via an  initiative called the Change Room project.

It was designed to raise awareness about the difficulties faced by LBGTQ athletes in locker rooms. Posters were hung around U of T facilities. One poster read, “ If you’re questioning the gender of someone in the washroom, don’t. They know better than you. They should be here.”

Well, that just seems like bad advice in a communal change room setting. Let me tell you why.

A mere two months later, the U of T is reassessing its gender neutral bathroom policy after two women became the victims of voyeurism after being filmed in the shower in a gender neutral washroom. 

Honestly, I really don’t know what the answer is.

But I know what the answer isn’t.

The answer isn’t compromising the safety of all women for the comfort of the few people.

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commented 2015-10-13 01:10:00 -0400
A CBC reporter named David Menzies went into a polling place and actually voted wearing a full length black dress and a face covering. The police were not even called.
commented 2015-10-12 01:18:28 -0400
Marty and Guy – real man! You people are never satisfied. If the supposed real man had taken care of business and knocked out the gender uncertain individual, you would be lambasting him for not being a real man because he got physical with a she-male. But to keep it simple I used an example of a boy. But apparently to you that is not worth caring about either.
So carry on.
commented 2015-10-10 19:09:06 -0400
Here’s the deal. It doesn’t matter what the gender or sex of the offenders are. The only thing that matters is that they are offenders. Criminals.

If you think no male ever sets up a video camera in an all-girls toilet, you are naive. And if you think no girl gang ever assaulted another girl in the ladies, you are also naive. Ditto for the men’s.

Keep your wits about you in the can. If you feel uncomfortable, get out.
commented 2015-10-10 19:05:20 -0400
Bravo – What about those people born with both a vagina and a penis? Or, as is also more common than is commonly known, with ambiguous sexuality – a nub that could be a large clitoris or a small penis, and a sort-of opening between the legs that might or might not grow into testes or ovaries?
commented 2015-10-10 11:13:42 -0400
ha ha what did they think would happen, total idiots who in there right frame of mind would even think of this, just cannot make this stuff up folks. Things like this are ripe for abuse and there will be more to come. Whats next bathroom police ha ha no doubt the gov will need to set up a study hire inspectors, create laws, and lets not forget a special courtroom will be needed.
commented 2015-10-09 19:47:10 -0400
Very good report Sheila. I agree with what you said. All this transgender BS needs to be stopped. It’s as though this confusion of whether a person is male or female just showed up over night and is supposed to be indoctrinated as truth. There are statistics somewhere that show many of these confused people end up committing suicide at a young age. I know this is being generated by the lgbt agenda which is no surprise. I believe the lgbt is equivalent to a new age Nazi/communist movement and is very dangerous for the welfare civilization.
commented 2015-10-09 14:56:40 -0400
I know I am a dinosaur – but – here is how I look at it.

If you have a swinging dick between your legs you are a man.

You might like women or you might like men – but you are still a man in the species.

Same – other than obvious physical differences – goes for the women.

Bending to far backwards simply hurts your back – get on with a real life lefties.

So Bruce Jenner is still a man – a man looking to be a woman who might be looking for a man – and not one real man will have him.

So Bruce – use the men’s room.
commented 2015-10-09 14:51:15 -0400
This bullshit about gender neutrality could be solved with one easy step, but all of these enablers want to infringe on everyone’s sensibilities. Have one public space as a restroom with the showers and toilets restricted by taking a number at the door. When you are finished doing what you are doing you walk back out into the public space where there are all 1600 gender identified groups the progressives want to have us believe are out there. If any person is going to try and cause trouble, the community present will deal with it. That won’t work because one individual will have a problem with it.
commented 2015-10-09 02:29:54 -0400
Before the French Revolution men and women used the same toilet facilities. I wonder why they changed that.
commented 2015-10-09 02:26:12 -0400
“Bill Elder, women getting attacked in these non-gender washrooms is a real issue. Your “micro-aggression” alert is not applicable in this case.”

Sarcasm? Ever heard of it?
commented 2015-10-09 00:54:54 -0400
Carry Harris, Sheila didn’t mention men feeling unsafe or whatever because the problem is Women getting assaulted in the washrooms. She addressed the problem, that is all. She did not slight men.
Besides as Guy commented below a man would take care of it. Besides why in heavens sake would you go into a gender neutral washroom if you know you are a man?
commented 2015-10-08 21:22:12 -0400
@cary Harris – Wait a minute here. I don’t know any actual real male men who would feel vulnerable to being assaulted with a woman in the men’s washroom. When I was in College, at almost every cabaret the women’s washroom was for women only but the men’s washroom always seemed to be a free for all. I don’t recall ever hearing about any women being assaulted in either washroom … probably because any other actual real male men would have ejected the transgressor with extreme prejudice.
commented 2015-10-08 18:41:08 -0400
Sheila almost had me interested until she made it exclusively about womens safety and privacy in a washroom. Apparently, who cares if a man feels unsafe and uncomfortable in a gender neutral washroom? Certainly not Sheila. Maybe a different story if she had a young boy who was alone in a washroom with an opportunistic gender confused pedophile, but not a concern of hers at the moment.
commented 2015-10-08 17:26:38 -0400
Perhaps the University should offer a course to help these future Einsteins to figure out which bathroom they should be using and proper etiquette but truth be told the less the educators speak in some instances the better.
commented 2015-10-08 17:17:07 -0400
Someone told me a story several years back about being in a University washroom and while they were seated they noticed a video cam come under the stall wall. This person freaked out and punched the peeper out. He was then coached by a cop to say the person attacked him so he wouldn’t be charged.
commented 2015-10-08 16:40:28 -0400
What in the hell is the matter with people in our world today? Taking a piss or a shit is a very private thing, why would you not want to keep it like that. I don’t want some woman walking around the same washroom I am using for my private duties, as I am sure that most women don’t want some man doing the same. In fact I rarely use public facilities to do anything but urinate, mainly because I know that most if not all public washrooms are a filthy mess.
Most normal people saw this problem from the very beginning – except for the lefty crowd of do gooders – lefties idiots all.
commented 2015-10-08 16:24:05 -0400
Great job Sheila.

Western ‘liberal’ philosophy is pretty FUBAR’ed these days. It seems to be based on the philosophy of cutting your nose off to spite your face. Shame they want to pull the rest of us down into the pit with them – I’d be a much bigger fan of this sort of social Darwinism if it wan’t so.
commented 2015-10-08 15:34:05 -0400
Edward Jobin – I love your suggestions about “the question marks!” They would work better than letting some pervert in with a camera. I think those who were harmed by this policy, should sue the university, for the games that they are playing, at attempting to bend the genders into whatever they want to. We need to start bringing these people back down to reality. If you are so different, and special that you need as special outhouse, then maybe we need to go back to the old outhouses. I’m pretty sure the smells will bring these lunatics back to reality! The Greeks built a square, and had seats for about 40-people at a time. Is this what they want? It seems more efficient, than catering to someone who just doesn’t fit in. If you don’t fit in with society, it’s because you don’t want to. Now take a seat, and do your business and move on!
commented 2015-10-08 14:58:14 -0400
Great comment Deborah Graupner. I didn’t think anyone was buying my line that I was a lesbian trapped in a man’s body anyhow. To keep things safe maybe they should have a men’s washroom, and woman’s washroom and a family washroom and one with a big question mark for those still trying to figure it out. or a small question mark if it applies.
commented 2015-10-08 14:42:40 -0400
This is bound to happen when stupid people make the decisions. The inevitable results are obvious to everyone except the stupid people in charge. Of course, common sense isn’t politically correct, or legal anymore, according to human rights tribunals and a proliferation of court rulings (apparently stupid people make excellent judges), so, hey, lets fill all the positions of power, authority and decision making with stupid people and watch the fun. When things go wrong, we can always blame Harper for not throwing enough money at solving the problem. There are two genders, we need two bathrooms and two changing rooms… problem solved! The world is full of idiots. I want off!! Oh, and Kathleen Wynne is an idiot (sorry, I just had to throw that in there)
commented 2015-10-08 13:01:26 -0400
We have washrooms for women, men and families. If you don’t fit into one of these categories, then too bad, then you don’t really have to go to the washroom all that badly. We the public need to put a stop to this ridiculous gender garbage. We are paying for this, so we need to put an end to this disturbing trend of wasting tax payer dollars, on something that isn’t necessary at all. The left and their victims can pay for more washrooms if they want to, but it should not be funded with taxpayer monies.
commented 2015-10-08 12:53:36 -0400
If you have a penis and you are out in public use public bathrooms where the other penis people go pee pee . Leave the girls and women alone. Wearing a skirt or lipstick doesn’t change a persons DNA . You are male.
If you bleed monthly between your legs then you know what it is to be female. Men dressing as women ARE NOT WOMEN.
Oops! Did I hurt your feelings. Sorry. You better run and find your safe place if you’re triggered.
Just make sure that safe place isn’t the women’s washroom ‘cause that’s not a safe place anymore .
commented 2015-10-08 12:50:35 -0400
Sorry, should have said “say”, second last word
commented 2015-10-08 12:48:54 -0400
Bill Elder-What goes through your mind when a woman gets attacked in a washroom by a man? Do you say oh well, this is a non issue because “people are making it difficult for human kind to advance beyond navel- gazing about their personal plumbing.” That to me is a response I would expect from a sexual predator, would you say the same thing if your mother, wife, daughter, or other female member in your family was sexually assaulted by a pervert in a woman’s bathroom? I would expect you would be screaming from the roof tops, or would you have the response you just said, if that is the case then the woman in your family are in danger because you refuse to protect them. I am tired of people having their rights pushed over other people’s rights. If a woman wants to go to a bathroom where there are no males (in any form) than who are you to say otherwise, that is her safe place and they should have that safe place, who are you to sat otherwise.
commented 2015-10-08 12:48:50 -0400
I haven’t watched the video yet and don’t have time right now BUT
WOW! This is a the train wreck caused by the stupid leading the ignorant! I am not a gopher, ground hog or rabbit but even I was able to prognosticate this “calamity!”. Back when this was just being discussed, I played devils advocate and suggested that with “gender fluid” washrooms there would be malicious abuse.
I look forward to watching the video and reviewing comments when I have time.
commented 2015-10-08 12:39:19 -0400
Andrew said, “Of course, you’d actually have to have gone to university to know that.”

Decades? I doubt, but not all universities have gender neutral washrooms. Most still understand that there are only two genders and the two washrooms are sufficient.
commented 2015-10-08 12:36:11 -0400
Bill Elder, women getting attacked in these non-gender washrooms is a real issue. Your “micro-aggression” alert is not applicable in this case. Sickos are taking advantage of these gender-less washrooms. Do you really think this is non-issue?
commented 2015-10-08 12:15:40 -0400
Not that many decades Andrew, they didn’t have them when I went.
commented 2015-10-08 12:13:43 -0400
I can only imagine how a woman would feel while taking a shit with a bunch of guys loitering in the same bathroom, especially a rank one.

Oh well, more constipation and more bitchy women.

And we go ONWARD!!!