March 07, 2015

University students voted to ban Canadian and American flags from 'inclusive space' for this bizarre reason

Rebel Staff
 

Hanging flags is the new hate speech.

Canadian and American flags are no longer welcome at the University of California.

The Associated Students of University of California, Irvine (ASUCI) voted to ban flags from hanging in its main lobby – an 'inclusive space' – because they are "offensive."

According to the legislation, flags are “symbols of patriotism or weapons for nationalism.”

Bill R50-70, which was authored by Social Ecology Representative Matthew Guevara says, “Flags construct paradigms of conformity and sets homogenized standards for others to obtain which in this country typically are idolized as freedom, equality, and democracy.”

“The American flag has been flown in instances of colonialism and imperialism,” the bill goes on to say.

As Campus Reform points out, the anti-flag bill claims free speech, such as flag-hanging, may be interpreted as hate speech.

“Freedom of speech, in a space that aims to be as inclusive as possible, can be interpreted as hate speech,” the bill reads.

The legislation passed with six "yea" votes. There were four nay votes and two abstentions.

According to the ASUCI website, “ASUCI is a student-run and student elected organization that advocates on behalf of students and creates programs that enhance the student experience at UC Irvine.”

So, apparently they were acting on behalf of students by banning flags. Exactly who was offended by flags to begin with?

The nonsense never ends. So much for "higher" education. 

 

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commented 2015-03-09 17:30:32 -0400
Abusing kids with these false notions of “entitlement” (to rights without concomitant corollary responsibilities) is a crime. It also short-circuits the basic learning process, where exposure to unfamiliar ideas only STARTS with denial, but then moves on to acceptance. Liberals insist kids have the false right to remain irresponsibly wrong, to not be “offended” by having their “feelings hurt” by initial exposure to the often-painful Truth. In stead of teaching kids how to think for them selves, or even what to think, all the so-called “education system” seems to do these days is teach kids how to not think at all – how to avoid thinking entirely. It thus only indoctrinates them into remaining infantile delinquents, (worse than the juvenile kind) dependent on the nannystate for all direction in their lives. It only teaches slavery to them.
commented 2015-03-09 01:37:42 -0400
Remember when liberal stud for liberty.
Now it stands for anything that will get them power and screw anyone who disagrees with them.
I say make the a fifth party by asking people to really look at liberals and see what they don’t what you to see.
commented 2015-03-08 16:32:29 -0400
The operative word here is liberal. Too bad liberals made the word Liberal dirty. Too much progressive thinking warps minds.
commented 2015-03-08 12:31:49 -0400
U Irving just vetoed the ban. Not going to happen.
commented 2015-03-08 11:15:22 -0400
Regarding the comments that I posted here on March 7th, I likened the required intellectual capacity of Liberal Arts students, graduates and professors to be similar to the requirements for weaving baskets.

No offence was intended to basket weavers, whose honest toil and labour actually make a contribution to society.

Thank you.
commented 2015-03-08 10:57:03 -0400
Charles … Sigh. Nor I.
commented 2015-03-08 00:54:57 -0500
The rot is wide and deep.
I’m not sure we can recover.
commented 2015-03-07 20:17:24 -0500
Who was offended by flags to begin with? Rhetorical question, right, Rebel Staff?

Hanging flags can be interpreted as hate speech. So can banning them. Doesn’t make it true.

Wasn’t postmodern relativism debunked before the turn of this century.? Yawn, UC Irvine.

Flags don’t speak. Humans do.

Flags are symbols or emblems. Banning symbols of freedom, equality, democracy – and I’ll add, human rights – sends another message. It says they too are banned.

Not cool, UC, Irvine ASs. Not cool.
commented 2015-03-07 17:19:08 -0500
Stupidity reigns supreme on College and University Campuses, in fact it seems to be mandatory. No wonder graduates can’t seem to find a job when they get out in the real world.
commented 2015-03-07 17:11:36 -0500
@mark Borzel: I totally agree! Irrational emotionalism is all liberals have!

Liberals, having no facts at all on their side, MUST always resort to using all the critical thinking logical fallacies (endless deflections, distractions and evasions) away from that simple fact. Hence their preference for the ad-hominem personal attacks, and of course their absolute favorite, the “Argumentum Tu Quoque;” i.e:

“Evil crime isn’t evil crime because we (i.e: you) all do it, too!”

(Usually employed in defense of islam and muslim criminals).

Even small children know that merely comparing two or more unrelated wrongs can never made one of them into a right, but liberals seem immune to even the most basic maturation process, preferring to remain infantile delinquents (far worse than the juvenile kind) who insist they have a false right to remain irresponsibly wrong, and to not be offended by having their feelings hurt by the often-painful Truth. They absolutely hate the idea that they might have a responsibility to become right (as in factually correct)!

These days, the truth needs official protection! In all these new “hate-crimes laws” it’s illegal to hate crimes and the criminal who commit them. They supposedly “replace” our basic anti-slander laws, which had the defense of the Truth (it’s not slander if it’s true) and where real, actual (not hypothetical) damages had to be proven in court! These days, you’re slanderoulsy pre-judged as “Guilty Until (Never) Proven Innocent!” BY the government courts, and if you even only might hurt some criminal’s feelings by accusing them of their crimes, and those silly facts that what you’re saying is true, no longer apply!

I hate crimes and the criminals that commit them – don’t you? Hate is only the perfectly natural human response of perpetual anger towards ongoing injustices (like islam); without hate, nobody’d ever even bother to accuse any criminals of their crimes, and so hope to end those crimes. In fact, liberals today try to pretend there’s no such things as crime and criminals, because we’re really all only victims anyway! They’d make it “illegal” to accuse any criminals of their crimes, if doing so might hurt their feelings, and so “make” them commit even more crimes! But when they try to make “hate crimes” illegal, they really only ever end up making it illegal to hate crimes!

;-)
commented 2015-03-07 17:04:12 -0500
Leave it to students to come up with a half-reasoned, half-emotional concept that has no practicality in the “real” world. The theme behind this action is, “If you don’t agree with me, you hate me.” (How many holes can YOU pick in that “argument”?) Therefore, so as to not draw any “hatred”, they’re attempting to do away with any possible symbol of something that somebody just MIGHT take offense at… Anybody else see emotionalism and irrationality at work here?
commented 2015-03-07 17:03:36 -0500
<b>THIS IS NOTSTUPIDITY,” IT’S SEDITION!</b>

ALL COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES EVERTEACH” (ABUSE) KIDS THESE DAYS, IS SEDITION!

Literally backwards Liberals have been taught the fallacy that the idea of “nations” is what has always caused all past wars – the simple and “jealous” struggle for other’s territory.

Furthermore, they think that only all the white people, including the Jews, invented the idea of property and territory; that innocent nomadic savages who believe in tribal collectivism are better than greedy individualists who want to horde (and improve!) personal property! To them, nationalism began during the Enlightenment.

But the simple truth is, nations were all formed naturally and organically from families, clans, and tribes, and eventually become states and empires over time.

So, naturally (being tool-blaming idolaters) leftists then decided to destroy all sovereign nations, to prevent all future wars: <b>“no nations = no wars for same!”</b>

It’s like saying people will fight over diamonds, or food – so the liberals’ “solution” is do destroy all the diamonds and poison all the food, FIRST.

THEN THERE WILL BE “PEACE!”

Exactly like with islam, which pretends all hope is fraud, (since the future cannot be known for sure), so destroy the hope and Submit to fear, and there will be the certainty of eternal, static “PEACE!”

;-(

And also exactly like islam, the liberals want to destroy the “idols” – people’s ties to their families, gods, and past, in order to prevent circumstantial “jealousy!”

i.e: If people don’t live in “houses” (nations) then some criminally lazy people won’t be jealous of all the work other, “privileged” people put into fixing theirs up!

;-|

LIBERAL COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITY CAMPUSES ONLYTEACH” (ABUSE KIDS THESE DAYS WITH) SEDITION!

Like their globalist bankster donors, owners and sponsors, they are against all sovereign national governments!

And, as such, their curriculums should be gone over with a fine-tooth comb ASAP! Sedition/treason is still a CRIME, as far as I know, (delinquent governmental notice and enforcement against it notwithstanding).

Further, they plan to eliminate “RACISM” by blending all the “races” (especially the Whites) into ONE RACE!

And, far from really believing in “Diversity,” they only use that cry as a temporary bludgeon, to make sure all the ‘races’ which are currently minorities IN NORTH AMERICA AND EUROPE, become the majority there. Note how liberals don’t attack the Chinese or Japanese for being isolationist “racists” (which they proudly are) or demand hordes of negroes emigrate to Japan of China? Do they demand that the Blacks in Africa self-dilute with Asians?

Liberals want to eradicate “greed” by destroying property rights, and to do that, they must destroy individualism, human dignity and self-reliance, and make people into infantile dependants.

This is what their fear-focused, self-defeating masochism and the desire to ignore all cause-and-effect who-started-it free-will choice, to make it all stop, leads to!

ONLY CRIMINALS THINK THIS WAYTHAT JEALOUSY IS A LEGITIMATE REASON TO ATTACK OTHERS; THAT THE SELF-INFLICTED POVERTY CAUSED BY CRIMINAL CHOICES, “CAUSESTHE CRIME!

i.e: "If you didn’t live in such a nice house, then I wouldn’t be jealous of it! So, since you bothered to earn that house and I didn’t, you have to either let me live in it with you for free, or destroy it because it hurts my feelings and I have a right to not be offended by the painful truth that I’m a lazy criminal! It’s your fault!

This of course blames the victim’s property (and the fact that the criminal’s victim actually owns property) for the criminal’s own desire to steal or destroy it.

But of course, no amount of force or police or laws are necessary among free citizens who can and will govern themselves, while the opposite is: no amount of force or police or laws are enough for a people who CANNOT – or will not – govern themselves.

;-)

The problem lies with the “liberal” (criminal’s) fears of others being “better than them,” and their “jealousy,” not with other people being able to own things.

THEY ARE STILL IDOLATERSBLAMING THE ITEMS, TOOLS AND IMAGES FOR THEIR OWN CRIMINAL DESIRES AND ACTIONS.

BAN GUNS! BAN PERSONAL PROPERTY OF ALL KINDS! BANNATIONS!” THEN WE WON’T HAVE TO BE JEALOUS OF YOUR STUFF ANY MORE, AND WE WON’T “HAVE” TO ATTACK YOU FIRST, SO THERE WILL FINALLY BE “PEACE!”"

" … er … we meant to say: "If you didn’t have any guns or the “nations” from which to launch the wars we know you’ll launch against us, you couldn’t do it, SO we must attack you and take your guns and nations away from you first, before you can inevitably do the same to us!

The (Marxist) “Historical Predeterminism” made us do it to you before you could inevitably do it to us, you evil criminals!"

i.e: “YOUR STUFF MADE ME WANT TO STEAL IT!!!”

("IF YOU DIDN’T HAVE STUFF, I WOULDN’T “HAVE TO” STEAL IT, OR ATTACK YOU, YOU EVIL RICH HARDWORKING BASTARDS! YOUR STUFF MAKES ME FEEL BAD ABOUT BEING A LAZY CROOK")!

CRIMINAL MASOCHISTS ALWAYS WANT TO CREATE AND JOIN THE LARGEST GANGS BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID NOT TO, WHILE SLANDERING EVERYONE ELSE AS BEING ABOUT TO ATTACK THEM FIRST!

;-(

Lying criminal idolaters like to pretend dynamic verbs are static nouns (and ‘verse-vicea’) – for instance, like the ongoing circumstantial and situational process of reasoning is pretended by them to be some sort of standalone entity, once ‘abstracted’ or removed from that same circumstantial, situational context – which they then call ‘Reason.’

As if ‘it’ could exist without any people actually ‘reasoning!’

…….

The modern liberal “Education System” not only no longer teaches kids how to think, or even what to think, but only how not to think at all – how to remain entitled to being irresponsibly wrong.

Modern “education” only “teaches” (abuses kids with) liberal corruption – they inflict their own infantile delinquency and criminal negligence by offering them alibi-excuses to NOT have to think for them selves:

“Life is too complex for us helpless fallible and so, potentially dangerous mistakes to ever understand cause and effect, so, “since” all facts are therefore really only opinions anyway, our subjective, entirely fact-free opinions are the diversely opposite equals to those silly Conservatives’ objective facts! Whee! And remember, kids: There’s No Wrong Answers!"

To pretend there is no evil crime, and no evil criminals because everyone’s really only a helpless victim, they pretend to a predetermined inevitability excuse: Marxist historical determinism, that people are all helpless victims of society, mere products of their environments, and slaves of allah.

And of course their inevitability alibi involves unavoidable mob-rule extortion, for which idolatrous group rights serve them well:

Ever try arguing with a liberal? It’s pointless trying to use facts to educate people who have been taught that the truth doesn’t exist!

They’ve really only declared a confession of non-compus-mentis!

And their favorite deflection is the childish critical thinking logical fallacy called the Argumentum Tu Quoque, which only amounts to trying to compare two unrelated wrongs in order to pretend to make one of them into a right:

“There’s no evil crime or criminals because we (i.e: you) all do it, too! Whee!”

Beyond that, their crime is all about the objectification: victim-blaming “defensively pre-emptive” slander.

They embrace the slanderous philosophy that the best “defense” is a good offense, to keep their opponents on the defensive so they will remain emotionally off-balance and so never be able to (counter-)attack ‘first!’

Only lying thieves (fraud being the most basic form of theft, the theft of the Truth) slanderously pretend their victims are too dumb to be educated!

The “elites” – including the “education” elites – are cowardly masochists who always want to form ever-larger gangs to protect them selves; they are all about the double-standards of subjectivism, and so oppose universal objectivity; they want rights without responsibilities, and so must offload their responsibilities onto their victims.

The reason they embrace might-made group “rights,” is both offensive and defensive: they can always assert they are “defensively protecting” others if and when they can make even a tenuous connection between some others at least somewhat similar to them selves who, somewhere else, at some other time, were oppressed by some other people who were sort of like YOU; in which case, YOU OWE THEM!

The corollary is that if and when they get caught for their crimes, they can always use the group idol as an alibi-excuse to dilute their own culpability:

“I didn’t do it! ONLY the GROUP did it! Whee!”

(Substitute “The System,” &/or “The Procedures” or your choice of idolatry for “The Group!”)

I’m pretty sure the main strategy AND subsequent tactics of liberals is to always generalize to dilute personal responsibility. It’s why they endorse group rights and responsibilities and absolutely hate factual cause-and-effect specifics. Generalizations are lies and exaggerations used to hide all the specific details of their individual criminal culpability. And they also get to blame specific victims for general group membership responsibilities, too!

They are criminals.

;-(

By abusing kids with the silly notion that they’re entitled to not be “offended” or have their “feelings hurt” by the often painful truth of new ideas, these crooks are short-circuiting the most basic thinking and learning process itself – because in humans, all new ideas are initially met with rejection (as has been known since at least Aristotle to Elizabeth Kubler-Ross these days)!
commented 2015-03-07 16:55:15 -0500
I could be wrong here but don’t universities and colleges gain funding from the government? If so fly the flag. If the flag is so offensive, Leave. Go somewhere else without national unity and pride. I hear Syria is nice this time of year. They have a BBQ almost nightly. I’m sure they will invite you to be dinner. Such a farce. When is the governmob going to stand up and say enough is enough of this shit. Stop being so politically fucking correct. Its time to send all these minority groups a message. Why can’t these groups see that the flag represents the sacrifice of our soldiers gave to protect their freedoms. I say to all western leaders, shut the fucking door. We’re full. No more freeloaders and degenerates.
commented 2015-03-07 16:51:08 -0500
Social Ecology Representative Matthew Guevara? Are you out of your ever loving mind? Good luck getting a job anywhere with that handle.
commented 2015-03-07 16:24:09 -0500
In the course of my life I’ve developed a few little axioms. One of my favourites is:

Young People Do Stupid Things

We’ve all been young, and I have my own experiences to not bore you with, but it really seems to hold true, whether they are operating a motor vehicle, playing with a gun, imbibing alcohol, just simply trying to be clever, and so on.

Most young people grow up and become sensible, even wise, (though only to be replaced by the following generation). Unfortunately, others grow up and vote Liberal.

I agree James, regarding the Liberal Arts programs. They’re right up there with basket weaving and other similarly intellectually challenging programs.
commented 2015-03-07 13:55:20 -0500
Ah yes! The liberal art programs. Big mouth no brains. Rah rah, smoke a doobie then have unprotected sex and an abortion shortly there after. Far out. I can remember those day. Thoreau and communes (Walden), Skinner, Hippies. That was a time of free love, women’s lib, and lots of drugs. Much like a fun loving socialist society. Today’s university creatures seem to be all for protecting Satan’s choices and anarchy and have a philosophy based on anger, retribution, and…control. I suspect that a job, income tax, and a factual review of communism will change their views, and if not I can only hope that life under ISIS gives them perspective.
commented 2015-03-07 12:39:32 -0500
What a communist (“anti-imperialist”) campaign on campuses. The future “elites” will turn Canada and the US in the Soviet realm. Where are conservatives to counter this insane propaganda?
commented 2015-03-07 12:04:47 -0500
I take it posters of Che Guevara who killed people whose opinions he didn’t like are more representative of free speech than the flag of the country with democratically elected leaders and a constitution that defends the natural rights of people. I’m sure that those posters and t-shirts are “inclusive” while Old Glory isn’t.
commented 2015-03-07 11:53:25 -0500
What a totally stupid idea and it’s even stupider that the university administration would go along with this. I take comfort in my belief that within a generation the big U’s are going to suffer a significant decline in enrolment and many will be shuttered. When the current crop of new grads realize they can’t earn a decent living with their pricey degrees they will discourage their kids from getting up to their ears in debt only to qualify for work as barristas.
commented 2015-03-07 11:41:48 -0500
The Flag also represent the constitution and its tenants of its native soil where the university is located. Would you continue to support a university who believes the very soil you live on is representative of hate?
commented 2015-03-07 11:39:39 -0500
This shows what jackasses students have become.
commented 2015-03-07 11:38:38 -0500
Brainwashing is a gradual, cumulative process. De-brief and de-program your kids every day about what they’re learning in school. Teach them to question everything they’re being taught and to think for themselves, then when they go to University they don’t fall for this kind of but because they see right through it. The only kids who fall for it are the ones who stay brainwashed.
commented 2015-03-07 11:04:17 -0500
And I think posters of Fidel Castro adorning every public venue in Cuba is offensive. But in Cuba there is no freedom of speech , is there? Who in the hell is going to be running our countries and businesses when this is the type of thinking that is going on in our colleges and universities.