June 12, 2016

What do Muslim authorities in CANADA say about homosexuality?

Victor LaszloRebel Commentator

But what is being taught in Islamic institutions in Canada about gay people?

From CIJ News:

The 8 volume books Fatawa Islamiyah (Islamic Verdicts), which were bought at an Islamic book store at Scarborough, Ontario, provide the Islamic ruling regarding homosexuality (Vol. 6, p. 199):

The Ruling on Sodomy and the Punishment Thereof

What is the ruling on sodomy in Islam and what is the punishment?

The shameful act of sodomy is one of the most repugnant of shameful acts and we seek refuge with Allah (from it). Because of it, Allah destroyed the people of Lut, peace be upon him, and punished them with a terrible punishment, turning their homes upside down and raining stones of baked clay upon them, layer upon layer, (as Allah said): “marked from your Lord and they are not ever far from the wrongdoers.”

It has been reported from the Companions, may Allah be pleased with them, that the punishment for one who does that or allows it to be done to him is that he be killed. Or, to be burnt or to be stoned. Or, to be thrown from the highest point (mountain, tower, lofty building etc.), then to follow it with stoning.

This is because of its corruption of morals, customs, and because of its violation of the natural human state, and because the abandonment of lawful marriage by those who practice.

“Ibn Jibreen”


Wael Shihab, the Imam of the mosque Masjid Toronto, which is affiliated with the Muslim Association of Canada (MAC), said that Muslims should avoid gays as homosexuality is evil and succumbing to the temptations of the Satan.

When questioned “how do we relate with homosexuals are they suppose to live with us?”, Wael Shihab ruled the following:

Homosexuality is a sinful act in Islam. As for you question about how we should deal with homosexuals, I’d cite the following fatwa of Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi, president of the Fiqh Council of North America:

We should consider them people who get themselves engaged in a sinful act. We should deal with them in the same way we deal with any people who are involved in alcoholics, gambling or adultery.

We should have deep repugnance to their acts and we must remind and warn them. Those who insist on this lifestyle, consider it legitimate and feel ‘gay pride’, we should not associate with them and should not take them as friends. We should certainly avoid those people. If we see a person who has committed this sin and wants to repent then we should help that person as much as we can to get out of this evil. We should not leave him/her to the temptations of the Satan…”

The article cites many more examples of Islamic teachings in Canada on how to relate to homosexuals. Which is to say, kill them.

Really its kind of silly to think that Canada would somehow be different from the Islamic State in terms of its core doctrine for Muslims. They all use the same books, have the same values and the same history. The point of differentiation is not the longitude and latitude of domicile.

It is a function of the degree of adherence to the doctrine. The doctrine is not in dispute by anyone who has actually looked at it. 

The Obamas and the Merkels and the Camerons of this world depend on their subjects not having actually looked at Islam, its history or its scriptures.

They think they can get us all to buy in to the intellectual slight of hand of moral relativism. The idea that somehow, "extremism" is the problem and not Islamic doctrine, which as clearly as possible lays out exactly the kinds of actions we see taken around the world today by Muslims.

But not by Jains, Buddhists, Hindus, Jews, Christians or any other group really, unless one decides to deliberately confuse the fundamental concepts of offense and defense for that exact purpose. 

A Jain extremist will wear a mask so as not to injure or kill bacteria by breathing.

A Jewish extremist will feel he has as much right to live in Judea and Samaria as anyone else and has at least equal rights to do harmless Jewish ritual on The Temple Mount. Something which Muslims forbid, even though it is the single most sacred site to Jewish people and means pretty much nothing to Islam.

A Christian fundamentalist will sometimes stand in front of an abortion clinic and ask the women going inside if they would consider not killing their pre-born children. 

For which they sometimes see the inside of a jail cell a lot faster than a Muslim centrist who preaches jihad from the pulpit on a pretty regular basis.

Here is Ezra and Jonathan Halevi in a SUN clip from before 2015 on Canadian Imams preaching jihad:

What is required before we see attacks on gays, Jews, and others who Muslims find objectionable in Canada, is just enough Muslims present.

Leftist media like CNN are willing to show how the Islamic State treats homosexuals, but try to distance that treatment from the doctrine of Islam:

But Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia and other nations which use Islamic sharia law do pretty much the same. With the notable exception of raping young boys of course. That is fully sharia compliant.

I use the INFO WARS link because the news links on this important issue seem not to show up in Google searches as they did at the time.

Here are two clips from VICE News on the kidnapping, raping, and murder of boys if they attempt to escape a life of being raped, recorded by US forces in Afghanistan:

But once these boys are over 14 or so, any continued homosexuality will be met with death. 

This is just one example of why the very term, "multiculturalism" is an oxymoron. Law is the crystallization of our values. There cannot be more than one set, even if that set is as flexible as possible, such as American law under the Constitution.

And Islam was written by Muhammed and his successors, specifically to be non-miscible with Western, or any other civilization.

Bringing in large numbers of Muslims means diminishing our own freedoms, whether it is to exist as a homosexual or a Jew or in fact a liberal in the classical sense of the term, or to preserve any of the freedoms and rights of the individual we take for granted.

Diversity has never meant strength. It means divided and conquered.

The unified and passionate group, ready to do violence for its primacy, will be victorious.

We have choices to make.



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commented 2016-06-13 22:34:23 -0400
@mary Auld , We just need to give Muslims a little more time to assimilate. Maybe like another 1400 years . And that’s assuming they don’t incinerate the entire planet in the name of allah.
commented 2016-06-13 21:13:22 -0400
Nathan W….your bleeding heart will be the death of Canada. You tell me WHAT strengths muslims have that they even want to share…they will NOT assimilate, never have…never will. They see the weakness in our people and they will exploit it. Jews have been a huge benefit to this world, they are smart….have given much to us in education, the arts, medicine to name a few. They are civilized people and fighting for their right to even ‘exist’ in the middle east. I have the highest regard for them and their determination to NOT be destroyed by middle eastern neanderthals. The raping of young boys is a well known fact in Pakistan, well documented and with muslims’ hatred of women, finding them unclean….have no doubt they have no conscience in raping young boys. ‘Newcomers’ have always been welcome in Canada, was one myself 50 years ago but….WE had something to offer Canada, were willing to BE Canadian and assimilate into its culture so there is NO comparison to make there. Muslims will never assimilate, will bring their barbaric and backward behaviour with them wherever they, will ALWAYS disrespect women and truly believe they will some day run the country. Those types of newcomers, we do not need or want. You are a fool.
commented 2016-06-13 21:05:37 -0400
WE will not be allowed to make choices!!! Our government lies to us, keeps the truth from us and allows us NO say in anything, once they have our vote. This government, by far, is the worst I have seen in my 50 years in this country. The damage they have done to us, to our reputation is irreparable. God help us.
commented 2016-06-13 16:24:04 -0400
Pre-refusing to work with anyone other than white supremacists seems like a losing strategy compared to those who are willing to build bridges across all groups and embrace the strengths of each, learning from each other’s weaknesses in the meantime.
commented 2016-06-13 16:02:32 -0400
Find me one Zionist extremist who would accept non-Jews living in the West Bank if it were up to them.

In all cases, the extremists of the non-Muslim groups are not represented in their full extremism (and in fact are practically made out to be victims), while among the Muslims, there appears to be some serious cherrypicking going on.

Moreover, the fact that Sharia law and Biblical law are not altogether different on such questions is completely ignored. Or, what do you think the story of Soddom and Gomorrah was about? Does the word “sodomize” just fall from the sky?

And the notion that raping young boys is sharia compliant is absurd. I hope your readers are attuned to be able to see when the people who are writing at this outlet are being woefully misinformed. As needs to be said altogether too often, you guys really need a better fact checking team. There are outrageous fact fails in nearly every article, but I do believe that in time the outlet is getting better at incorporating an element of potential legitimacy to alternative perspectives.

Please be specific. Which aspects of our culture do you feel are threatened by newcomers? First, demonstrate your support to uphold those aspects. Then, let’s talk about whether it is the newcomers or some handful of extremists in our midst who are the actual threat to those very same values.
commented 2016-06-13 13:26:15 -0400
When a couple “radicalized jihadis” got their tickets punched at the Draw Mohammed free speech thing in Texas a few months ago the left was going on and on about how Pam Geller et al were actually at fault for goading the muslim community into attempting to commit acts of violence. So, it wasn’t the two murderous death cultists’ fault for trying to kill everyone in the conference, it was the organizers for kicking sand in their faces. You see, this legitimizes the violent aggresion of the jihadis; it wasn’t their fault – it was the damn Tea Party’s! Now, this killer apparently had a huge problem with 2 guys kissing, prompting this predictable push back in the murders of dozens of gay people in a gay bar. Okay, so now isn’t it the gays’ fault this happened? That’s where logic takes us, if it was Pam Geller’s fault for two dead muslims in Texas isn’t it gay men publicly kissing’s fault for 50 (and counting) dead in Orlando? It can’t be two ways. Either Geller and co. were faultless in their artistic endeavours, or it’s the fault of all gay men for inciting this predictable and “legitimate” push back by the muslim community. It has to be one or the other. Now, I’m going to push “enter”, and wait for all the leftists and other islamapologists’ heads to explode!
commented 2016-06-13 11:30:53 -0400
GLEN CRAIG: I too was a member of the United Church of Canada, but did not attend regularly, and all of a sudden their policies seemed to have changed and left me far behind. I virtually have no time for their doctrine any more. When their “new” views proliferated it deflated me to the point of driving me away.

And as I stated in my post yesterday concerning the shootout at the"Oh Gay Corral", how is Turdo going to kiss gay and Islamic asses at the same time?? He is lighting the fuse on a ticking time bomb. And as soon as a bomb is used in one of these attacks, Obama and his SICKOPHANTS can shove their gun rhetoric up their asses.

commented 2016-06-13 10:35:49 -0400
In the legal sense, this qualifies as hate literature… should be banned… hate literature and speech do not qualify as free speech.
commented 2016-06-13 09:06:53 -0400
We are in danger of turning this act of terrorism, this act of war into and anti-gun or a gay issue. It is neither. This was an act of war and should be treated as such. Radical islam, and it can be forcefully argued, all of islam is diametrically opposed to all the principles of freedom that are the underpinnings of western civilization. Having that drooling, fool, in the White House and hi ‘mini-me’ with the email problem, trying to turn this into a gun control issue, shows just how far out of touch the left is on this issue.

We are at war. We are at war with islam. We ignore this fact at our peril.
commented 2016-06-13 08:35:01 -0400
Hey that’s not hate speech.He’s talking about going out for a beer.Oh wait a minute no alcohol I mean coke.The drink.Sounds like a Liberal spin eh!
commented 2016-06-13 07:41:32 -0400
How do we think they feel, what is islam all about, not hard to see, muslim immigration equals death hatred and more death and hatred. Only the beginning people we are letting them in by the tens of thousands into Canada, NOTHING GOOD WILL COME FROM THIS,
commented 2016-06-13 02:48:49 -0400
If you heven’t already, YOU should go to Pegida Canada’s Facebook page.


Then “LIKE” their Facebook page.

Show your support. Do it right now while it’s on your mind!
commented 2016-06-13 01:46:36 -0400
Soon enough, similar attacks will happen in Canada. They may not be mass shootings. They will likely take the form of gang assaults. There has already been sexual assaults on women in Germany, used as an act of terror. Is there any reason to believe that Canada will be immune? Of course, JT knows that in the creation of the Canadian Islamist super state, a few eggs will have to be cracked.
commented 2016-06-12 22:43:20 -0400
“and now I feel so God forsaken…I gave an inch….a mile was taken.”
commented 2016-06-12 22:36:50 -0400
The first time I read the Criminal Code of Canada….homosexuality was on the same page as rape, incest and bestiality. That is really not that long ago. At the time I thought it was an injustice and I joined forces with those who wanted change.

I could write a book on it …..well illustrated with the first photojournalism essay on the transgendered ever done in Canada.

I was a ministry candidate in the united church of canada…..now I will bet you will not find an ordained minister of that church who is not gay…what comes in the package is a coven of lesbian witches who think that heterosexual males are a manifestation of the unholy….and I feel betrayed.
commented 2016-06-12 20:29:34 -0400
“Those who insist on this lifestyle, consider it legitimate and feel ‘gay pride’, we should not associate with them and should not take them as friends. " What the hell is that joke for our PM playing both sides off the middle, and bigger Q is how is this at all okay with his Mosque friends? As usual nothing makes any sense anymore! Another indication that the inmates are in charge of the asylum!
commented 2016-06-12 20:15:04 -0400
Re Sean Penson: Please don’t respond to that a-hole’s idiot comments. Just ignore everything it posts. Nothing drives one a troll more nuts than being ignored. Thanks…………..…………..
commented 2016-06-12 18:46:30 -0400
Rick l don’t get it either. The way liberals lay down for this cult, it’s like they have pics of an orgy at the G7 where the liberal leaders are all blowing each other.
commented 2016-06-12 18:24:07 -0400
Somehow, methinks had anyone of “Conservative” leanings had proclaimed and verified such statements and intentions, it would be front and centre in the MSM for months not to mention the challenges brought up in HRC’s! Why are the adherents of islam getting a pass?