January 26, 2016

When prisons become jihadi recruiting grounds: What we MUST learn from European trends

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Commentator

New findings released by the Sun, a UK newspaper, show that the number of Muslims in British jails is skyrocketing.

In the UK's top security prisons, 1229 of 5885 prisoners say they follow the Islamic faith. That’s 21% of the general population of the maximum security prisons. That’s a 23% jump from 5 years ago. In fact, in some prisons, like Whitemoor prison in Cambridgeshire almost half the inmates are Muslim, 199, out of 447 prisoners.

Muslims make up 5% of the British population but 21% of the maximum security prison population. This shows that migrants aren't integrating into western society. Muslim migrants are committing crimes at a higher rate than the general population and they're committing the most violent of violent crimes.

With these huge numbers of violent Muslim offenders in UK jails, Islamist prison gangs have taken root. Established radical Islamist prison gangs have a captive audience of young, angry Muslim men to radicalize.

And the UK isn't alone. France has the same problem. Mohamed Merah, the jihadi who killed 7 people in Toulouse, France in 2012 was radicalized in jail.

A civilized society has a responsibility to protect it's citizens. Part of that responsibility is sending violent offenders to prison. But what can we do when the prisons are also the jihadi recruiting grounds? We need a refugee pause.

We need to make sure we take in refugees who will thrive here, integrate and love this country as much as we all do. We need to learn from France and Great Britain.

If we take in the wrong kind of migrants, we aren't just taking in people who will never integrate into Canadian society. We will be importing a crime wave.


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commented 2016-01-28 03:05:06 -0500
If you do a cost benefit analysis, it is just not worth it to take refugees, even before you consider ideology.
commented 2016-01-27 18:01:49 -0500
Probably not much. If I were an American, I would be just as concerned with the Canadian border as the Mexican border. We aren’t being very good neighbours at the moment.
commented 2016-01-27 17:54:24 -0500
Ben Carson on Wolf Blitzer today said they (the US) have to be concerned about their northern border all so
Because Prime minister Trudeau plans to bring in thousands of Syrian refugees and they (the US) knows
radical jihadists are going to get through I wonder what the CIA FBI and homeland security think of Mr Trudeau
commented 2016-01-27 15:44:03 -0500
correction, ‘ideology’

Sam, why just say, " A better argument would be, we just don’t want to pay for refugees." when it could be named for what it really is, an Islamist threat, which is in need of a multitude of steps to defend ourselves from. Pausing our intake of what are being called refugees is one of those steps. Economic migrants, would be closer to the truth. The real refugees are stuck in the camps.
commented 2016-01-27 15:36:36 -0500
Yes, radicalization takes place all over, not just in jails, and not all those radicalized start out Muslim, but wouldn’t putting a pause on importing any more Islamist idiology be a help to slowing the radicalization. Why are we bringing in more soldiers for their cause. Shouldn’t we be beefing up our ‘soldiers’ so to speak? The Trojan horse comparison is often used, and for good reason, but it is mostly ignored as a ‘radical’ view, on the part of ‘paranoid’ westerners.
commented 2016-01-27 03:46:06 -0500
Radicalization takes place all over the place, and not just in jails. So making the argument that we should pause refugee intake because radicalization may happen in prison is a poor argument. A better argument would be, we just don’t want to pay for refugees.
commented 2016-01-27 02:03:59 -0500
The time to draw a line in the sand is long past due. All of the key entry points to Europe should be manned by soldiers with 50 calibre machine gun sentry posts. Huge signs in several languages warning that anyone trying to enter the country illegally will be shot or if captured, placed in detention and deported back to their home country. No media from any country to be allowed in these security zones. War ships and other naval vessels to patrol and seize any unauthorized vessels entering their territorial waters, including rubber rafts carrying illegal immigrants. If they resist, shoot them. If not, place in detention and deport. Pretty soon the message would get out and nobody would pay to get themselves this treatment. There is much more to be done but this would be a start. Europe has to start protecting itself from the scourge of Islam.
commented 2016-01-27 01:20:49 -0500
Henry Reardon;
Muslims have been in the UK ever since the British Empire ended. They are mostly Pakistani. It is the third and fourth generations that are now causing most of the trouble. Hate Preachers abound and create a multitude of trouble with their propaganda. Most of the schools are set up in favor of the Muslims, for instance an English kid cannot take Ham Sandwiches for his lunch, it offends the Muslims. Kids cannot go out and play in the evenings, if they do they get beat up by Muslim gangs.

I would recommend to anybody who wants to know what it is going to be like in Canada, to search, Muslims in UK, Muslim Immigrants UK, No Go Zones UK. You will see Canada, in a few short years. Word of caution, BBC videos, though usually well made are Biased politically to the left and tend to be pro Muslim.
commented 2016-01-27 01:10:21 -0500
British born Muslims= some percentage of the incarcerated population.
Immigrant Muslims= some percentage of the incarcerated population.
In total that apparently adds up to 21% of all those jailed in the UK.
What this shows, whether homegrown or imported, is that there is a problem with followers of Shariah law fitting in at all with western society. It stands to reason that more Islamist’s would mean increased numbers incarcerated. It also stands to reason that a reduction in Muslim immigration would mean a reduction in these numbers. The ‘wrong kind’ of migrants are any who refuse to give up Shariah law. If you are a homegrown Islamist you have been radicalised either from birth by your immigrant family, in your Mosque, on the streets of no go zones, or in jail. If you don’t live by the law of the land (which is the Queens law in the UK) you are likely to end up in conflict with your host country, whether you are a new arrival, or first or second generation.

A pause is the only sane response. In the UK, a complete halt would probably be in order. Muslim’s are at 5 % of the general population now. Even if the doors were closed to Muslim migrant/refugee’s , think what their demographic will be in the coming years. They have very large families and if not properly assimilated will become radicalised and a threat.
There is no reason to believe we are immune to the same situation in Canada, especially if we ignore what has already transpired in Europe.

TEAMEDWARDJACE, don’t leave us hanging, please direct us to a ‘good news’ story you are familiar with.
commented 2016-01-26 23:59:43 -0500
This video suffers from at least one major logic problems. The presenter simply assumes that the Muslims in British jails are new arrivals to Britain. There is no evidence presented to support that assumption. For all we know, 98% of the professed Muslims in British jails were born and raised in Britain. If a large percentage of the Muslims in those jails have been in Britain all their lives, the argument that we should stop Muslim immigration to reduce crime is greatly weakened.

Based on a British documentary I saw just the other day, The Jihadis Next Door, there are many many British born Muslims – and others who have been there for decades having arrived as young children – who have had every opportunity to assimilate. In fact, all of the three individuals interviewed in that documentary were in that category: I think two of them had lived their entire lives in Britain and one had arrived as a young child. All three were well-known to police, security services and the general public. All three were under scrutiny by the authorities on suspicion of recruiting for ISIS. One of them managed to slip out of the country – with his family – and was rumoured to have joined ISIS in Syria. In fact, he was believed to be the “new” Jihadi John, the old one having met his end thanks to a drone a few months back.

One thing that I found interesting is that the at least one of the three men who was interviewed was very careful NOT to say that he supported ISIS. He said outright that if he admitted to recruiting for ISIS, he would spend several years in prison and he was clearly NOT enthusiastic about that prospect. However, he had no hesitation in saying that he strongly supported Sharia law coming to Britain; apparently, he could say that without fear of arrest.
commented 2016-01-26 23:52:49 -0500
TEAMEDWARDJACE commented 33 mins ago
Could some of the Muslims in jail be wrongly accused? Yes, it’s possible

You have got to be kidding?
Yes there may be a few people in jail that shouldn’t be there!
But come on! What type of argument are you trying to make here?
Haven’t you been watching any of the news flashes from around the would?

Please don’t even type you are way to slow to understand what is going on….
commented 2016-01-26 23:17:24 -0500
You guys should also try posting more positive news too
commented 2016-01-26 23:15:36 -0500
Could some of the Muslims in jail be wrongly accused? Yes, it’s possible
commented 2016-01-26 22:53:49 -0500
Trudopes media party wont comment on such things but will make sure everyone knows the sultan of selfies is wearing socks.
commented 2016-01-26 20:47:08 -0500
Why don’t those of the left persuasion, the ones who call themselves NDP/Liberal, ever comment on the details of reports like this one, which depict the reality of the refugee situation? What is it about Justin allowing such a rushed and thoughtless flooding of our country with ‘refugees’, that makes them feel so comfortable with it? Just because we are big geographically doesn’t mean we can accommodate all these mostly Syrian men into our society/economy. Don’t just tell me you are not concerned, and conservatives are paranoid hatemongers. what is your comment on Sheila’s piece about learning from Europe’s mistakes. You want ‘odds of…’ that you say conservatives don’t take into account, have a read. If you had any guts you would be commenting. I guess its because what Sheila is pointing out can’t be disputed.

manni man, gordo, is also duh sylva.
commented 2016-01-26 20:13:41 -0500
The same thing has been happening here in Canada for at least ten years, but the media just ignores it, the prison guards and other inmates are too afraid to point it out, our politicians are too PC to address it, our citizens don’t want to believe it and our alternate media knows nothing about it. But we will point across the pond and decry how bad it is there, while it festers in our own backyard. No one gives a hoot, no one cares, bellies are full and we are entertained, so let’s just forget aboot it!
commented 2016-01-26 20:00:28 -0500
Britain and Canada should bring back the Death Penalty . Sadam ran Iraq the best of any leader despite many different tribes of Muslims killing each other. He would hang 100 a day; that way they can’t teach new prisoners terrorism.
commented 2016-01-26 19:55:28 -0500
I just did a websearch….

France’s prison population is estimated to be 70 per cent Muslim.

France is fucked, and they did it to themselves. How smart is that?!

What’s tourism like in the no-go zones?
Not even police go there, let alone a woman not wrapped in a jihab garbage bag around her head.
Isn’t multiculturalism with death cults awesome? :-O

commented 2016-01-26 19:44:55 -0500
This was a problem ten years ago in Canada. The Muslims recruit the dumbest, most incorrigible men they can to become Muslims.
commented 2016-01-26 19:31:54 -0500
Oh, but it will never happen here.. Right? I mean, after all, Canada under Justine’s benevolent dictatorship … umm, I mean, governance, only those refugees that are sweet and innocent will be brought in. If Justine says it will be okay, well then I guess it will be okay … okay?