September 29, 2015

Why is Notley talking about phasing out coal on her $23,000 road trip?

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Commentator
 

Rachel Notley went on a road trip to sell Alberta as a safe place to do business, again.  

This is a $23,000 road trip to speak to people from the business sectors in Montreal, New York and Toronto. Notley is supposed to be there to drum up investors for Alberta’s suffering energy sector. Sounds like a great idea, right? Wrong.

Is the Premier talking to investors about Alberta’s highly skilled labor force? Is she talking about our world class environmental regulations? Is she talking about our ample natural resources? No, no and no.

Notley is talking about phasing out coal. She’s talking about making the cost of business more expensive. That doesn’t sound like much of a sales pitch to me.

 

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commented 2015-10-01 10:30:05 -0400
Andrew Stephenson is also an outright liar. Or he really thinks that wind is the dominant for of power generation in Alberta as well as Alberta having the highest electricity prices in Canada do to using fossil fuels instead of wind…. What a contradictory statement to.
commented 2015-10-01 08:23:45 -0400
I was planning on leaving Ontario for Alberta because Wynne has ruined Ontario and it keeps getting worse. Along with the fact that are public service is now around 1.7 million workers (the cons wanted to keep it under a million) and no signs of that growth stopping and her catering to the unions it will now be almost impossible to get rid of her. But now it looks like Alberta will be joining Ontario. Maybe I will try to immigrate to the USA? At least there I have the right to defend myself and my home. Im afraid for Canada, if Tommy Commie gets elected I am going to start the process of immigrating to USA. That recall petition is I think Albertas last chance to claw its way back. Here is hoping because I would rather live here in Canada, but I refuse to stand here and watch it crumble into a third world socialist shit hole.
commented 2015-09-30 17:30:14 -0400
The NDP is a one term government in Alberta and they know it, so they want to maximize damage to the oil industry. All this talk of climate change and is their smoke screen to inflict Albertans with higher taxes and fewer jobs except in government itself. Just look at Manitoba with its listless economy and climbing GST rates. That’s what we can expect from socialists.
commented 2015-09-30 15:54:38 -0400
DARRYL TESKEY commented 2 hours ago
She seems determined to follow ontario down the road of economic ruin and sky high power rates, Guess thats what happens when you hire all the toronto elites to run the show into the ground just like they have in ontario. Notley will go down in history as the worst premier alberta has ever had. She is so busy sucking up to ont and quebec and for what ? Pay raises for all the high priced help, trips seems there are just different hogs at the tax payer trough now. She is off to a terrible start and does not seem to have a clue what to do, except the old tried and true NDP tax everything that moves blame it all on someone else. She wanted the job and she had all the solutions during the election it was all so easy, well she better get off her ass and do something and soon.Most will not even admit voting for her and have zero faith she will do anything besides increase taxes drive investment away, kill jobs in the power sector now guess the job losses in oil and gas were not enough she has to kill off power generation as well. No budget, no plan, no hope.

Ditto, I have nothing to add.
commented 2015-09-30 13:44:02 -0400
She seems determined to follow ontario down the road of economic ruin and sky high power rates, Guess thats what happens when you hire all the toronto elites to run the show into the ground just like they have in ontario. Notley will go down in history as the worst premier alberta has ever had. She is so busy sucking up to ont and quebec and for what ? Pay raises for all the high priced help, trips seems there are just different hogs at the tax payer trough now. She is off to a terrible start and does not seem to have a clue what to do, except the old tried and true NDP tax everything that moves blame it all on someone else. She wanted the job and she had all the solutions during the election it was all so easy, well she better get off her ass and do something and soon.Most will not even admit voting for her and have zero faith she will do anything besides increase taxes drive investment away, kill jobs in the power sector now guess the job losses in oil and gas were not enough she has to kill off power generation as well. No budget, no plan, no hope.
commented 2015-09-30 12:17:46 -0400
Liza said, “There has to be a way to neuter the unions.”

Well, Harpers’ bill to open up the union books is a good start. Not sure if that has passed yet, but it certainly is why the unions are screaming bloody murder and trying to take down the Harper government in any way they can.

Another one would be to fire all the union bosses and hire new ones at 1/2 the wage, which I believe would put the union bosses at about $200k/year. No one knows but the union bosses what they make, but I would guess it is about 1/2 mill per year.

Wynne is the one I was thinking of when I wrote that comment.
commented 2015-09-30 11:56:00 -0400
There has to be a way to neuter the unions. They wield too much political power.
Peter, its exactly how Wynne got in again in Ontario, and yes it could happen here.
What a horrifying thought.
commented 2015-09-30 08:48:18 -0400
Brian, I feel sorry for you guys out there with those monstrosities polluting the landscape. I hope Notley does not do that here, but in one of her speeches recently she made reference to moving to “cleaner sources of energy.” And I know what that means; wind and solar farms all over the place.

Now as Andrew had mentioned, Lethbridge is always windy, and Turner Valley is worse. Notley will likely set up any wind turbine farms in that region.

Natural gas is a good way to go, but as long as coal is cheaper then the companies will not pay out the multi-millions to convert over to natural gas.

Andrew, there is not enough water up north like in Manitoba to dam it up and create a hydroelectric facility. Nuclear would have been great, but the Peace River residents voted against it.
commented 2015-09-30 08:38:12 -0400
Kenneth said, “Peter, alas, there won’t be enough left of Alberta after 4 years of NDP destruction to scrape up off the floor. Sorry.”

I have a strong feeling you are correct. As the very least, will may never be able to pull ourselves out of debt. Look at the austerity Ralph had to impose on us. We can only privatize the telephone, power and liquor once. There may have been more privatizations that Ralph had done, but I can only think of the three right now.

My fear is that come the 3rd and/or 4th year Ratchel Notley will pull the standard leftie maneuver and suck up to the public sector unions big time to curry favour with the union members to secure another term. With the public sector members vote and the idiot dupes who love their NDP (much of Edmonton specifically) Ratchel just might win another term.
commented 2015-09-30 08:31:46 -0400
Andrew, said, “We’ve got the most expensive power in Canada BECAUSE of our reliance on antiquated fossil generation.”

No, we don’t. Ontario does. And our increased electricity cost when it happened was because of privatization, not because of running off coal.
commented 2015-09-30 08:07:54 -0400
Sorry correcting my previous statement I jumbled up one of Andrews “facts”
Andrew,
Im from Guelph Ontario, no easterner. I have a cottage North of here. I have personally witnessed what adding useless wind to our grid has done and it has been a disaster. Never mind the fact that it has completely destroyed the landscape and the value of thousands of peoples homes. Yoy have no where near the most expensive power in Canada. Ontario has the most expensive electricity rates in North America. 17c a kilowatt hour. Heading near 30c a kilowatt hour over the next 5 years. Alberta rates that I looked up varied from 4 cents to 7 cents.
You are suspicious of me huh? You are the one posting false facts here like:
" Alberta has most expensive power in Canada." False. Ontario has most expensive in North America
“Wind is the largest proportion of Albertas power grid”. False its 3%. Coal is 55%
“Natural gas is cheaper than coal now” False. Coal is still the cheapest form of generating.
“Frankly the status quo hasn’t really worked, we’ve got the most expensive power in Canada BECAUSE of our reliance on antiquated fossil generation. " False lol its fossil fuel keeping it cheap.
Are you a pro wind ideologist paid to troll or something. Get yours “facts” straight before you call non sense facts.
commented 2015-09-30 08:03:48 -0400
Andrew, Im from Guelph Ontario, no easterner. I have a cottage North of here. I have personally witnessed what adding useless wind to our grid has done and it has been a disaster. Never mind the fact that it has completely destroyed the landscape and the value of thousands of peoples homes. Yoy have no where near the most expensive power in Canada. Ontario has the most expensive electricity rates in North America. 17c a kilowatt hour. Heading near 30c a kilowatt hour over the next 5 years. Alberta rates that I looked up varied from 4 cents to 7 cents.
You are suspicious of me huh? You are the one posting false facts here like:
" Alberta has most expensive power in Canada." False. Ontario has most expensive in North America
“Wind is the largest proportion of Albertas power grid”. False its 3%. Coal is 55%
“Frankly the status quo hasn’t really worked, we’ve got the most expensive power in Canada
“Natural gas is cheaper than coal now” False. Coal is still the cheapest form of generating.
BECAUSE of our reliance on antiquated fossil generation." False lol its fossil fuel keeping it cheap.
Are you a pro wind ideologist paid to troll or something. Get yours “facts” straight before you call non sense facts.
commented 2015-09-30 02:06:23 -0400
Peter, alas, there won’t be enough left of Alberta after 4 years of NDP destruction to scrape up off the floor. Sorry.
commented 2015-09-30 01:18:21 -0400
Brian, I am an Albertan and I am intensely familiar with the southwestern part of the province, the transitional area between mountains and prairie where the wind blows constantly. I’ve never seen it not windy in Lethbridge. I’m going to assume based on the whining, NIMBYist lack of respect for basic property rights, and reference to “cottages” that you’re an easterner, which makes me skeptical of your motivations.

Natural gas is cheaper than coal now, particularly with the carbon taxes that have been in place for several years (yes, we have carbon taxes on industrial emitters in Alberta, and they long predate Notley), and can spool up rapidly.

I would suggest Alberta should be developing hydro resources in the north. They have substantial potential that could be developed as Manitoba has, transmitted with an efficient Bipole to the centres in the central and southern parts of the province. They have not done so because the status quo has historically been cheaper. Frankly the status quo hasn’t really worked, we’ve got the most expensive power in Canada BECAUSE of our reliance on antiquated fossil generation.
commented 2015-09-29 23:01:51 -0400
Not much more can be said about these NDP creeps, except I can’t wait for the next election. That’s assuming there will be an Alberta left worth saving after 3 year 8 months.
commented 2015-09-29 22:34:05 -0400
Andrew Im not sure what you are talking about wind is only 4% of Alberta total grid supply and that is when the wind is blowing strong and steady. Which is just a tiny fraction of the year and even then its more often than not at night when demand is very low. Turbines take up a lot of space to, you would need a massive amount of space for the tens of thousands of them you would need. They zero property values and completely destroy the beautiful landscape, that might not seem like a big deal but when the entire countryside around your cottage gets covered in them you will agree. And you would also have to build other power plants that can start and stop rapidly like nat gas. Significantly adding to costs. There are people killed by them surprisingly often. Wind energy is all but useless and its costs are so incredibly high for the tiny unreliable returns that they are a pointless waste of tax payers money. Turbines are an ideologically driven irresponsible choice that only a left wing ideologist , dupe, or a politician pandering for votes from left wing ideologists or dupes would build. They are one big giant waste of money and a solution to nothing.
The only intelligent way to cleanly and economically produce electricity for a province, state or country is with hydro, natural gas, and nuclear plants with fast breeder reactors next door to them to use the other 96% of the energy that the first plant didn’t use from the Uranium rod. (with modern fast breeders by the time they are done making electricity from the rods they use almost all the energy stored in the Uranium leaving it radioactive for only hundreds of years instead of tens of thousands. Best part is North America has nuclear plants all over the place literally littered with casks full of spent fuel rods, enough to power the USA for almost 100 years)
commented 2015-09-29 21:34:52 -0400
@robert Hewgill,
The Germany story is deeply misleading. They are using coal to offset the nuclear phaseout, and continue to build wind turbines.
commented 2015-09-29 21:33:11 -0400
@brian Cameron,
That’s quite a bit less than they were even a decade ago. Natural gas is the future.
This is good news, because NG is complementary to wind power, as it’s able to respond quickly and is cost-effective to operate in that manner, at least until Alberta can develop its hydro basins in the north.
commented 2015-09-29 21:21:07 -0400
brian cameron : wind and solar have been a disaster everywhere it’s been tried. Europe is returning to coal after the alternative energy subsidy scams destroyed their economies and made power unfavorable for many. Thus the term, energy poverty. The corrupt left wing media in north America won’t tell you about it.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/695273119/Europe-returns-to-coal-amid-climate-change-concerns.html?pg=all

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/4116/must_read_article_about_germany_s_green_energy_disaster

http://blogs.windsorstar.com/opinion/ending-the-wind-power-ripoff

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2010/02/wind_energys_ghosts_1.html
commented 2015-09-29 21:18:25 -0400
DAVID` GRASS makes a good point about how widespread this is in Canada. Obama is doing the same in the US:
“…Earlier this month, Fallin vetoed a bill in the Oklahoma legislature that would have required the state to develop a State Implementation Plan, SIP, to comply with EPA proposed rules mandating a 30 percent reduction in carbon dioxide emissions from power plants. The proposal arises from the Obama administration’s continued insistence that anthropogenic, or human-caused, climate change is a serious threat to U.S. national security…” See:
http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/u-s-states-rebel-against-obamas-war-on-coal/
Look to similar tactics if either the socialist or the communist gets in in October…
commented 2015-09-29 20:45:11 -0400
""Andrew Stephenson commented 1 hour ago
The coal plants are near the end of their life expectancy anyway. Something will need to be done. The trend was already towards natural gas and renewables (Alberta’s had wind turbines for 25 years and has long generated the biggest proportion of its power from wind, a fact that is true even today), Notley’s posturing aside she’s not doing anything different than the utilities were already planning to do.
Boundary dam is not “affordable”. It cost as much as refurbishing the Bruce Nuclear plant did. The latter generates ten times as much power.""
Uh what do you think you live in Germany or something? Wind is not generating anywhere near the largest proportion of Albertas electricity. Coal alone generates 55% of Albertas electricity. You had better check your numbers bud……
commented 2015-09-29 20:26:26 -0400
So exactly what type of business is she trying to attract to Alberta? Anyone know?
commented 2015-09-29 20:26:25 -0400
So exactly what type of business is she trying to attract to Alberta? Anyone know?
commented 2015-09-29 20:18:04 -0400
Notely and her band of cronies are literally taking the food off the tables of young men and women and families in order to convert Alberta into an ecological green reserve where the rich and nefarious can fly over and marvel at their handiwork as the the ever growing lines of the unemployed flee the province
commented 2015-09-29 19:56:30 -0400
@brian cameron – Sorry to hear how bad it is in Ontario but at least your province gets to pick the next prime minister by your voting clout. Please choose wisely or we will all be have-not provinces … or the Quebec and Atlantic will-not Provinces. It looks like Alberta is Joining you soon but if we can not get her kicked out before her term is up we hope to get back on our feet after the next provincial election. I don’t think Alberta will ever make this mistake again.
commented 2015-09-29 19:56:13 -0400
Brian Cameron — we already know this, but thanks for the warning anyways. We’re already preparing for when Notley and crew get turfed next election. I’m just sad that Ontario can’t get it’s act together and do the same for Wynne and company…
commented 2015-09-29 19:49:17 -0400
The coal plants are near the end of their life expectancy anyway. Something will need to be done. The trend was already towards natural gas and renewables (Alberta’s had wind turbines for 25 years and has long generated the biggest proportion of its power from wind, a fact that is true even today), Notley’s posturing aside she’s not doing anything different than the utilities were already planning to do.

Boundary dam is not “affordable”. It cost as much as refurbishing the Bruce Nuclear plant did. The latter generates ten times as much power.
commented 2015-09-29 19:34:49 -0400
Keith Barnes commented 1 hour ago
""Motley Notley, just like Grip Tight Wynne, will not be happy until she has completely ruined Alberta. This is what Socialist’s like to do. ""
Yes and they are doing it for our own good. You know because we conservatives who built this great western world are to stupid to look after ourselves and make our own decisions.
LOL if socialists had built the west they would have gotten as far as being dead rather quickly… LOL
commented 2015-09-29 19:31:04 -0400
Shut up Brinkman you spammer and traitorous weasel!
commented 2015-09-29 19:29:52 -0400
Electricity here in Ontari-owe was very cheap, cheap enough that a significant portion of Ontarios population used electricity to heat there homes all winter. After Kathleen Wynne AKA the crypt keeper was done with her socialist utopia plan for our electricity it is now literally, and feel free to look this up if you don’t believe me, the most expensive electricity in North America! Wind energy now supplies all of 3% of our grid but is around 80+% of the cost of our bills. It also costs our province nearly half a billion dollars every month to sell electricity created by the turbines (she contracted to south Korea to build) when nobody needs it to other provinces and states at a massive loss that they locked themselves into paying for a minimum of 20 years. So they are locked into paying the turbine owners something like 28 cents a kilowatt hour but they only seem to work when nobody needs them and the electricity has to go some where so we sell it out of province for 0.5 cents to 1 cent a kilowatt hour. This has led to increases in the number of business leaving to buffalo and Michigan where they then buy our Ontario generated electricity dirt cheap! LOL Anyway even though this has been a massive failure and it is going to drive electricity prices up to near 30 cents a kilowatt hour over the next 5 years she is refusing to admit she has screwed up yet again and is going full steam ahead with building, sorry, having south Korea building shit loads more turbines with there crazy rate contracts for 20 years. The joke is on us Ontarians, but it is starting to not be so funny anymore as I am paying more for electricity every month than gas, cable, internet, phone and insurance all combined. I think we are at 17 cents a kilowatt hour right now and going up. Between that and all the power she has given the unions, all the new taxes personal and corporate, provincial pension plan, all the new red tape and regs for businesses, the coming onslaught of her cap and trade racket, and the ever climbing prices of the monopoly known as the workers comp, can anybody really wonder why businesses and job are leaving here by the thousands. While she destroys Ontario the one thing she does prioritize is the rights of LGBTQ people, that seems to be the only thing she cares about, teaching our elementary school kids that they are gender fluid and can decide to be boys or girls when ever they want and go back and forth and so on. Parents don’t want there kids taught this nonsense, well tough luck your a homophobe. It has turned into a socialist dictatorship in Ontario and Wynne is Hitler. Anyone gets in her way and she destroys them, there job, and reputation. Its all for the right cause though we are just to dumb to know shes doing the right thing for all of us.
Prepare yourselves for Notleys budget Albertans, for you will be following Ontario down a very similar insane path. Sorry to be the bearer of such bad news friends.